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Shield Breaker Set is Worthless

manny254
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I got 5k stones, and bought the blue v15 version of the set. I gave it a shot and it is a complete joke. Sorcs looked at me like I was a noob. This set just once again shows the Devs do not play or understand there games PVP.

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  • TheBull
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    Shields are OP atm...
  • Rioht
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    Did......

    Did you buy 5 pieces?
  • xaraan
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    Yes, he did.

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  • jcasini222ub17_ESO
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    The obession of light and heavy attacks. I wonder if it was all attacks it'd make a difference.
  • Dracane
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    The OP expected this to one shot Sorcs as it seems. He thought, it is the cookie cutter sword against Sorcerer.
    I'm glad it failed.

    Auri-El is my lord,
    Trinimac is my shield,
    Magnus is my mind.

    My debut album on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@Gleandra/videos
  • shadowcoder
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    I hope they fix this...I really don't understand why they make so many 5 piece sets useless...

    5 pieces are alot of slots that are occupied and most of the sets are just crap, it was pre update 7 that way and as it seems that is still the case :(
    2 month from now there is gonna be a new ravager set and a new martial knowledge set, and at least in PvE every DD is wearing the same...again.

    Anyway, enough complaining for one day :D
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  • manny254
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    Dracane wrote: »
    The OP expected this to one shot Sorcs as it seems. He thought, it is the cookie cutter sword against Sorcerer.
    I'm glad it failed.

    No but I expected that if you waste 5 pieces of your gear set up to counter something it should be effective. This set in not effective. I would be much better off stacking weapon power to beat a shield user.Please do not pretend you know what I think.
    - Mojican
  • Dracane
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    manny254 wrote: »
    Dracane wrote: »
    The OP expected this to one shot Sorcs as it seems. He thought, it is the cookie cutter sword against Sorcerer.
    I'm glad it failed.

    No but I expected that if you waste 5 pieces of your gear set up to counter something it should be effective. This set in not effective. I would be much better off stacking weapon power to beat a shield user.Please do not pretend you know what I think.

    What did you expect then ? That they die after a few hits ? Seems so to me.
    If you want a shield breaker build, use a glyph of irresistable damage with an infused or reinforced trait combined with this set.

    Then use a lightning staff, as it procs the set 3 times (or 4 times, not sure if the final bolt counts as a heavy attack). This way you'll be doing over 3000 damage in 2 seconds, through their shields.
    Edited by Dracane on July 29, 2015 9:30PM
    Auri-El is my lord,
    Trinimac is my shield,
    Magnus is my mind.

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  • manny254
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    Dracane wrote: »
    manny254 wrote: »
    Dracane wrote: »
    The OP expected this to one shot Sorcs as it seems. He thought, it is the cookie cutter sword against Sorcerer.
    I'm glad it failed.

    No but I expected that if you waste 5 pieces of your gear set up to counter something it should be effective. This set in not effective. I would be much better off stacking weapon power to beat a shield user.Please do not pretend you know what I think.

    What did you expect then ? That they die after a few hits ? Seems so to me.
    If you want a shield breaker build, use a glyph of irresistable damage with an infused or reinforced trait combined with this set.

    Then use a lightning staff, as it procs the set 3 times. This way you'll be doing over 3000 damage in 2 seconds, through their shields.

    I was expecting that a set bonus designed to counter something would actually counter it. Also yes I am going to use a lighting staff on my stamina templar. Sounds like a great idea mate.
    - Mojican
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    manny254 wrote: »
    Dracane wrote: »
    The OP expected this to one shot Sorcs as it seems. He thought, it is the cookie cutter sword against Sorcerer.
    I'm glad it failed.

    No but I expected that if you waste 5 pieces of your gear set up to counter something it should be effective. This set in not effective. I would be much better off stacking weapon power to beat a shield user.Please do not pretend you know what I think.

    1066 damage against someone that has a 20k+health and perma 30kish damage shields wouldn't be very helpful. It would probably be better if they just gave you an X% chance to proc a +weapon damage buff when the damage you deal is absorbed or reflected.
    Edited by timidobserver on July 29, 2015 9:36PM
    V16 Uriel Stormblessed EP Magicka Templar(main)
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  • FENGRUSH
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    Dracane wrote: »
    manny254 wrote: »
    Dracane wrote: »
    The OP expected this to one shot Sorcs as it seems. He thought, it is the cookie cutter sword against Sorcerer.
    I'm glad it failed.

    No but I expected that if you waste 5 pieces of your gear set up to counter something it should be effective. This set in not effective. I would be much better off stacking weapon power to beat a shield user.Please do not pretend you know what I think.

    What did you expect then ? That they die after a few hits ? Seems so to me.
    If you want a shield breaker build, use a glyph of irresistable damage with an infused or reinforced trait combined with this set.

    Then use a lightning staff, as it procs the set 3 times (or 4 times, not sure if the final bolt counts as a heavy attack). This way you'll be doing over 3000 damage in 2 seconds, through their shields.

    Agree with OP - better off stacking high weapon damage and busting the shield spammer while disabled. If you think throwing in light attacks on a guy that can instantly reapply shields is productive - good luck in 1v1ing a competent magicka sorc.
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    manny254 wrote: »

    I was expecting that a set bonus designed to counter something would actually counter it. Also yes I am going to use a lighting staff on my stamina templar. Sounds like a great idea mate.

    See ? ;) This set can be overpowered if used right and if you mean it serious. Well, I don't know if this damage is reduced by 50%. Then it would be less damage. But as it totally ignores all resistances, it still deals a lot of damage if we look at the current TTK. We also need to find out, if the set's damage can crit. The irresitable damage glyph can crit.
    Auri-El is my lord,
    Trinimac is my shield,
    Magnus is my mind.

    My debut album on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@Gleandra/videos
  • Germtrocity
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    It should be an amazing set in theory... All the bonuses leading up to it benefit stamina builds completely. Add on top of that the five piece allowing you to do 1k damage through shields with no cooldown on top of that and it is great. Considering sorcerers don't have any reliable self heals and just use healing ward for their healing, you could just light attack them to death without using any skills at all.
  • Manoekin
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    Should just double damage vs shields, or do the damage on ability use instead of light attack.
  • manny254
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    Dracane wrote: »
    manny254 wrote: »

    I was expecting that a set bonus designed to counter something would actually counter it. Also yes I am going to use a lighting staff on my stamina templar. Sounds like a great idea mate.

    See ? ;) This set can be overpowered if used right and if you mean it serious. Well, I don't know if this damage is reduced by 50%. Then it would be less damage. But as it totally ignores all resistances, it still deals a lot of damage if we look at the current TTK. We also need to find out, if the set's damage can crit. The irresitable damage glyph can crit.

    It did deal 1k damage and battle spirit did not reduce it. Honestly it just felt as if I was making his healing ward stronger.
    - Mojican
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    FENGRUSH wrote: »
    Dracane wrote: »
    manny254 wrote: »
    Dracane wrote: »
    The OP expected this to one shot Sorcs as it seems. He thought, it is the cookie cutter sword against Sorcerer.
    I'm glad it failed.

    No but I expected that if you waste 5 pieces of your gear set up to counter something it should be effective. This set in not effective. I would be much better off stacking weapon power to beat a shield user.Please do not pretend you know what I think.

    What did you expect then ? That they die after a few hits ? Seems so to me.
    If you want a shield breaker build, use a glyph of irresistable damage with an infused or reinforced trait combined with this set.

    Then use a lightning staff, as it procs the set 3 times (or 4 times, not sure if the final bolt counts as a heavy attack). This way you'll be doing over 3000 damage in 2 seconds, through their shields.

    Agree with OP - better off stacking high weapon damage and busting the shield spammer while disabled. If you think throwing in light attacks on a guy that can instantly reapply shields is productive - good luck in 1v1ing a competent magicka sorc.

    You should be light attack weaving on almost everything you do regardless.

    This set is designed with that in mind and when played perfectly provides over 1000 DPS against shields which will help burst down shields far more than stacking weapon power would.

    If this set comes in Vet16 it will be even better.

    If they make it *too* good against shield stacking then everyone will be wearing it (obviously not hard to get) and shields will be completely useless.

    What I *really* want to know is if that *irresistable* damage will cut through a certain exploiting sorcs shields.
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  • Manoekin
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    Ezareth wrote: »
    FENGRUSH wrote: »
    Dracane wrote: »
    manny254 wrote: »
    Dracane wrote: »
    The OP expected this to one shot Sorcs as it seems. He thought, it is the cookie cutter sword against Sorcerer.
    I'm glad it failed.

    No but I expected that if you waste 5 pieces of your gear set up to counter something it should be effective. This set in not effective. I would be much better off stacking weapon power to beat a shield user.Please do not pretend you know what I think.

    What did you expect then ? That they die after a few hits ? Seems so to me.
    If you want a shield breaker build, use a glyph of irresistable damage with an infused or reinforced trait combined with this set.

    Then use a lightning staff, as it procs the set 3 times (or 4 times, not sure if the final bolt counts as a heavy attack). This way you'll be doing over 3000 damage in 2 seconds, through their shields.

    Agree with OP - better off stacking high weapon damage and busting the shield spammer while disabled. If you think throwing in light attacks on a guy that can instantly reapply shields is productive - good luck in 1v1ing a competent magicka sorc.

    You should be light attack weaving on almost everything you do regardless.

    This set is designed with that in mind and when played perfectly provides over 1000 DPS against shields which will help burst down shields far more than stacking weapon power would.

    If this set comes in Vet16 it will be even better.

    If they make it *too* good against shield stacking then everyone will be wearing it (obviously not hard to get) and shields will be completely useless.

    What I *really* want to know is if that *irresistable* damage will cut through a certain exploiting sorcs shields.

    I think it deals damage through the shield to the player, so it's not going to help you take down his shield any and as moji said would just make his healing ward stronger.
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    Two or three people peppering the sorc with bow light attacks, in the process killing his healing ward with the weaved poison arrows. Just saying.
  • FENGRUSH
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    Manoekin wrote: »
    Ezareth wrote: »
    FENGRUSH wrote: »
    Dracane wrote: »
    manny254 wrote: »
    Dracane wrote: »
    The OP expected this to one shot Sorcs as it seems. He thought, it is the cookie cutter sword against Sorcerer.
    I'm glad it failed.

    No but I expected that if you waste 5 pieces of your gear set up to counter something it should be effective. This set in not effective. I would be much better off stacking weapon power to beat a shield user.Please do not pretend you know what I think.

    What did you expect then ? That they die after a few hits ? Seems so to me.
    If you want a shield breaker build, use a glyph of irresistable damage with an infused or reinforced trait combined with this set.

    Then use a lightning staff, as it procs the set 3 times (or 4 times, not sure if the final bolt counts as a heavy attack). This way you'll be doing over 3000 damage in 2 seconds, through their shields.

    Agree with OP - better off stacking high weapon damage and busting the shield spammer while disabled. If you think throwing in light attacks on a guy that can instantly reapply shields is productive - good luck in 1v1ing a competent magicka sorc.

    You should be light attack weaving on almost everything you do regardless.

    This set is designed with that in mind and when played perfectly provides over 1000 DPS against shields which will help burst down shields far more than stacking weapon power would.

    If this set comes in Vet16 it will be even better.

    If they make it *too* good against shield stacking then everyone will be wearing it (obviously not hard to get) and shields will be completely useless.

    What I *really* want to know is if that *irresistable* damage will cut through a certain exploiting sorcs shields.

    I think it deals damage through the shield to the player, so it's not going to help you take down his shield any and as moji said would just make his healing ward stronger.

    Oh god - thats a huge miss........ big sigh!
  • FENGRUSH
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    Ezareth wrote: »
    FENGRUSH wrote: »
    Dracane wrote: »
    manny254 wrote: »
    Dracane wrote: »
    The OP expected this to one shot Sorcs as it seems. He thought, it is the cookie cutter sword against Sorcerer.
    I'm glad it failed.

    No but I expected that if you waste 5 pieces of your gear set up to counter something it should be effective. This set in not effective. I would be much better off stacking weapon power to beat a shield user.Please do not pretend you know what I think.

    What did you expect then ? That they die after a few hits ? Seems so to me.
    If you want a shield breaker build, use a glyph of irresistable damage with an infused or reinforced trait combined with this set.

    Then use a lightning staff, as it procs the set 3 times (or 4 times, not sure if the final bolt counts as a heavy attack). This way you'll be doing over 3000 damage in 2 seconds, through their shields.

    Agree with OP - better off stacking high weapon damage and busting the shield spammer while disabled. If you think throwing in light attacks on a guy that can instantly reapply shields is productive - good luck in 1v1ing a competent magicka sorc.

    You should be light attack weaving on almost everything you do regardless.

    This set is designed with that in mind and when played perfectly provides over 1000 DPS against shields which will help burst down shields far more than stacking weapon power would.

    If this set comes in Vet16 it will be even better.

    If they make it *too* good against shield stacking then everyone will be wearing it (obviously not hard to get) and shields will be completely useless.

    What I *really* want to know is if that *irresistable* damage will cut through a certain exploiting sorcs shields.

    Not everyone is light attacking weaving with a ranged staff. Weaving is very easy with a staff. A lot of class/playstyle rely on movement and bursts. So light attack weaving isnt for everyone in that sense. I do weave a ton of light despite all of that - but you have to consider what youre giving up here with a 5 pc set focused on just that.
  • Ezareth
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    Manoekin wrote: »
    Ezareth wrote: »
    FENGRUSH wrote: »
    Dracane wrote: »
    manny254 wrote: »
    Dracane wrote: »
    The OP expected this to one shot Sorcs as it seems. He thought, it is the cookie cutter sword against Sorcerer.
    I'm glad it failed.

    No but I expected that if you waste 5 pieces of your gear set up to counter something it should be effective. This set in not effective. I would be much better off stacking weapon power to beat a shield user.Please do not pretend you know what I think.

    What did you expect then ? That they die after a few hits ? Seems so to me.
    If you want a shield breaker build, use a glyph of irresistable damage with an infused or reinforced trait combined with this set.

    Then use a lightning staff, as it procs the set 3 times (or 4 times, not sure if the final bolt counts as a heavy attack). This way you'll be doing over 3000 damage in 2 seconds, through their shields.

    Agree with OP - better off stacking high weapon damage and busting the shield spammer while disabled. If you think throwing in light attacks on a guy that can instantly reapply shields is productive - good luck in 1v1ing a competent magicka sorc.

    You should be light attack weaving on almost everything you do regardless.

    This set is designed with that in mind and when played perfectly provides over 1000 DPS against shields which will help burst down shields far more than stacking weapon power would.

    If this set comes in Vet16 it will be even better.

    If they make it *too* good against shield stacking then everyone will be wearing it (obviously not hard to get) and shields will be completely useless.

    What I *really* want to know is if that *irresistable* damage will cut through a certain exploiting sorcs shields.

    I think it deals damage through the shield to the player, so it's not going to help you take down his shield any and as moji said would just make his healing ward stronger.

    That was how I was afraid it would work when I heard they were coming out with this set. I thought man I'd love for people to damage my health through my shields....that means larger healing wards and bigger shields.

    I was hoping when it would actually do the extra damage to the shields themselves.

    Still as long as you're forcing a sorc to stand there and recast his shields, you'll eventually kill the player as the healing ward heal (after all the nerfs) is going to be less than 1000 and the healing effect of the shield dispersing should never hit.
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  • manny254
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    Ezareth wrote: »
    Manoekin wrote: »
    Ezareth wrote: »
    FENGRUSH wrote: »
    Dracane wrote: »
    manny254 wrote: »
    Dracane wrote: »
    The OP expected this to one shot Sorcs as it seems. He thought, it is the cookie cutter sword against Sorcerer.
    I'm glad it failed.

    No but I expected that if you waste 5 pieces of your gear set up to counter something it should be effective. This set in not effective. I would be much better off stacking weapon power to beat a shield user.Please do not pretend you know what I think.

    What did you expect then ? That they die after a few hits ? Seems so to me.
    If you want a shield breaker build, use a glyph of irresistable damage with an infused or reinforced trait combined with this set.

    Then use a lightning staff, as it procs the set 3 times (or 4 times, not sure if the final bolt counts as a heavy attack). This way you'll be doing over 3000 damage in 2 seconds, through their shields.

    Agree with OP - better off stacking high weapon damage and busting the shield spammer while disabled. If you think throwing in light attacks on a guy that can instantly reapply shields is productive - good luck in 1v1ing a competent magicka sorc.

    You should be light attack weaving on almost everything you do regardless.

    This set is designed with that in mind and when played perfectly provides over 1000 DPS against shields which will help burst down shields far more than stacking weapon power would.

    If this set comes in Vet16 it will be even better.

    If they make it *too* good against shield stacking then everyone will be wearing it (obviously not hard to get) and shields will be completely useless.

    What I *really* want to know is if that *irresistable* damage will cut through a certain exploiting sorcs shields.

    I think it deals damage through the shield to the player, so it's not going to help you take down his shield any and as moji said would just make his healing ward stronger.

    That was how I was afraid it would work when I heard they were coming out with this set. I thought man I'd love for people to damage my health through my shields....that means larger healing wards and bigger shields.

    I was hoping when it would actually do the extra damage to the shields themselves.

    Still as long as you're forcing a sorc to stand there and recast his shields, you'll eventually kill the player as the healing ward heal (after all the nerfs) is going to be less than 1000 and the healing effect of the shield dispersing should never hit.

    The problem is that you are using a set to gain this ability. So you may not have the burst to get through the shield of a good player. While making their healing wad stronger.
    - Mojican
  • Ezareth
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    FENGRUSH wrote: »
    Ezareth wrote: »
    FENGRUSH wrote: »
    Dracane wrote: »
    manny254 wrote: »
    Dracane wrote: »
    The OP expected this to one shot Sorcs as it seems. He thought, it is the cookie cutter sword against Sorcerer.
    I'm glad it failed.

    No but I expected that if you waste 5 pieces of your gear set up to counter something it should be effective. This set in not effective. I would be much better off stacking weapon power to beat a shield user.Please do not pretend you know what I think.

    What did you expect then ? That they die after a few hits ? Seems so to me.
    If you want a shield breaker build, use a glyph of irresistable damage with an infused or reinforced trait combined with this set.

    Then use a lightning staff, as it procs the set 3 times (or 4 times, not sure if the final bolt counts as a heavy attack). This way you'll be doing over 3000 damage in 2 seconds, through their shields.

    Agree with OP - better off stacking high weapon damage and busting the shield spammer while disabled. If you think throwing in light attacks on a guy that can instantly reapply shields is productive - good luck in 1v1ing a competent magicka sorc.

    You should be light attack weaving on almost everything you do regardless.

    This set is designed with that in mind and when played perfectly provides over 1000 DPS against shields which will help burst down shields far more than stacking weapon power would.

    If this set comes in Vet16 it will be even better.

    If they make it *too* good against shield stacking then everyone will be wearing it (obviously not hard to get) and shields will be completely useless.

    What I *really* want to know is if that *irresistable* damage will cut through a certain exploiting sorcs shields.

    Not everyone is light attacking weaving with a ranged staff. Weaving is very easy with a staff. A lot of class/playstyle rely on movement and bursts. So light attack weaving isnt for everyone in that sense. I do weave a ton of light despite all of that - but you have to consider what youre giving up here with a 5 pc set focused on just that.

    Yeah I guess it depends on what pieces the set is available in, I just don't think this should be the set that everyone starts using because it is OP. I think it is powerful for a lot of builds. Someone mentioned a lightning staff which seems like an interesting idea.

    I think we need a lot more testing done on this before we go calling it "worthless".
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    Too Much Bolt Escape - banned for "hacking the game to create movement not otherwise permitted by in game mechanics."
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  • FENGRUSH
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    Sure, I wouldnt file it under worthless - and Im not doing that at this point. Either way, Im not going to use this set out pvping in cyro because sorc shields are strong and handicap myself to everything else. Maybe a niche dueling set that will fall into duelers obligatory dueling set - thats about it for this thing IMO.
  • Ezareth
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    manny254 wrote: »
    Ezareth wrote: »
    Manoekin wrote: »
    Ezareth wrote: »
    FENGRUSH wrote: »
    Dracane wrote: »
    manny254 wrote: »
    Dracane wrote: »
    The OP expected this to one shot Sorcs as it seems. He thought, it is the cookie cutter sword against Sorcerer.
    I'm glad it failed.

    No but I expected that if you waste 5 pieces of your gear set up to counter something it should be effective. This set in not effective. I would be much better off stacking weapon power to beat a shield user.Please do not pretend you know what I think.

    What did you expect then ? That they die after a few hits ? Seems so to me.
    If you want a shield breaker build, use a glyph of irresistable damage with an infused or reinforced trait combined with this set.

    Then use a lightning staff, as it procs the set 3 times (or 4 times, not sure if the final bolt counts as a heavy attack). This way you'll be doing over 3000 damage in 2 seconds, through their shields.

    Agree with OP - better off stacking high weapon damage and busting the shield spammer while disabled. If you think throwing in light attacks on a guy that can instantly reapply shields is productive - good luck in 1v1ing a competent magicka sorc.

    You should be light attack weaving on almost everything you do regardless.

    This set is designed with that in mind and when played perfectly provides over 1000 DPS against shields which will help burst down shields far more than stacking weapon power would.

    If this set comes in Vet16 it will be even better.

    If they make it *too* good against shield stacking then everyone will be wearing it (obviously not hard to get) and shields will be completely useless.

    What I *really* want to know is if that *irresistable* damage will cut through a certain exploiting sorcs shields.

    I think it deals damage through the shield to the player, so it's not going to help you take down his shield any and as moji said would just make his healing ward stronger.

    That was how I was afraid it would work when I heard they were coming out with this set. I thought man I'd love for people to damage my health through my shields....that means larger healing wards and bigger shields.

    I was hoping when it would actually do the extra damage to the shields themselves.

    Still as long as you're forcing a sorc to stand there and recast his shields, you'll eventually kill the player as the healing ward heal (after all the nerfs) is going to be less than 1000 and the healing effect of the shield dispersing should never hit.

    The problem is that you are using a set to gain this ability. So you may not have the burst to get through the shield of a good player. While making their healing wad stronger.

    Well the passives on this set are actually pretty good for a DPS set so you're just losing the 5 Piece bonus.

    As far as damage shields go almost every class is using them in most circumstances.

    Templar, Sorcs, Magicka NBs/DKS.

    The only players this 5 piece wont help you at all against will be Stam NBs.

    I'm sure that people will find a way to make this set proc even more than we think as well. It seems to me that it was design for a stamina bow nightblade...especially with the buffs to bow light attacks but who knows.

    Most of the sets I've seen so far are pretty underwhelming. Nothing compares to skirmisher for stam that I can see (although skirmisher may end at V14).
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    Ezareth wrote: »
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    The OP expected this to one shot Sorcs as it seems. He thought, it is the cookie cutter sword against Sorcerer.
    I'm glad it failed.

    No but I expected that if you waste 5 pieces of your gear set up to counter something it should be effective. This set in not effective. I would be much better off stacking weapon power to beat a shield user.Please do not pretend you know what I think.

    What did you expect then ? That they die after a few hits ? Seems so to me.
    If you want a shield breaker build, use a glyph of irresistable damage with an infused or reinforced trait combined with this set.

    Then use a lightning staff, as it procs the set 3 times (or 4 times, not sure if the final bolt counts as a heavy attack). This way you'll be doing over 3000 damage in 2 seconds, through their shields.

    Agree with OP - better off stacking high weapon damage and busting the shield spammer while disabled. If you think throwing in light attacks on a guy that can instantly reapply shields is productive - good luck in 1v1ing a competent magicka sorc.

    You should be light attack weaving on almost everything you do regardless.

    This set is designed with that in mind and when played perfectly provides over 1000 DPS against shields which will help burst down shields far more than stacking weapon power would.

    If this set comes in Vet16 it will be even better.

    If they make it *too* good against shield stacking then everyone will be wearing it (obviously not hard to get) and shields will be completely useless.

    What I *really* want to know is if that *irresistable* damage will cut through a certain exploiting sorcs shields.

    I think it deals damage through the shield to the player, so it's not going to help you take down his shield any and as moji said would just make his healing ward stronger.

    That was how I was afraid it would work when I heard they were coming out with this set. I thought man I'd love for people to damage my health through my shields....that means larger healing wards and bigger shields.

    I was hoping when it would actually do the extra damage to the shields themselves.

    Still as long as you're forcing a sorc to stand there and recast his shields, you'll eventually kill the player as the healing ward heal (after all the nerfs) is going to be less than 1000 and the healing effect of the shield dispersing should never hit.

    The problem is that you are using a set to gain this ability. So you may not have the burst to get through the shield of a good player. While making their healing wad stronger.

    Well the passives on this set are actually pretty good for a DPS set so you're just losing the 5 Piece bonus.

    As far as damage shields go almost every class is using them in most circumstances.

    Templar, Sorcs, Magicka NBs/DKS.

    The only players this 5 piece wont help you at all against will be Stam NBs.

    I'm sure that people will find a way to make this set proc even more than we think as well. It seems to me that it was design for a stamina bow nightblade...especially with the buffs to bow light attacks but who knows.

    Most of the sets I've seen so far are pretty underwhelming. Nothing compares to skirmisher for stam that I can see (although skirmisher may end at V14).

    I can agree that the 4 pc bonus is good, and I have considered it as something I might use. By deciding to use the 5 pc you are preventing your self from using other 5 pc bonuses like hundings even with dw. The five piece just seems like a waste of space.
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    This is clearly a PVP oriented set, so instead of plain damage, why not make it proc a disabling effect like stun/knockdown or root? Then people who use shields run the risk of being CCed more often, which I think in PVP is worse than 1066 irresistible damage. :/
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  • Jammer480
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    So the additional damage from the 5-piece set ONLY affects people with shields? Or does it damage everyone, regardless of the shield?
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    they have to have a shield to do the extra damage.
  • TheLaw
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    If you can't kill an average sorc with shield breaker, you have a skill problem, and I'm being honest. Sorcs are the easiest target to kill right now, shieldbreaker isn't even needed.
    -= Shahrzad the Great |Sorc| =-
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