Thundering presence - Useless without speed buff !

skillastat

I think every stamina sorc will agree with me that the magicka morph is more appealing since it gives speed buff and not the stamina one.

@ZOS

GET IT RIGHT FOR ONCE PLEASE

RoyJade

It's depending of how good the damage are, but I'm afraid that you're right.

Dracane

skillastatb16_ESO wrote: »

I think every stamina sorc will agree with me that the magicka morph is more appealing since it gives speed buff and not the stamina one.

@ZOS

GET IT RIGHT FOR ONCE PLEASE

Don't get insulting please.

Have you tested thundering presence on the pts ?

kkampaseb17_ESO

Dracane wrote: »

skillastatb16_ESO wrote: »

I think every stamina sorc will agree with me that the magicka morph is more appealing since it gives speed buff and not the stamina one.

@ZOS

GET IT RIGHT FOR ONCE PLEASE

Don't get insulting please.

Have you tested thundering presence on the pts ?

Apparently Fengrush has and the damage you gain is pathetic. Sad really. They could pull it off just by adding a couple of passives for stamina on our class passives without changing anything. Also make Crystal Fragments proc from stamina abilities so that stamina sorcs can use it at least for CC. Problems solved.

Erock25

The damage from Thundering Presence in a stamina spec is not very good at all. With template character with 210 CP point spent and 25k stamina and 2300 weapon damage the tooltip was 502 damage. 11.5k damage single target over 23 seconds? No thanks. I will use Boundless Storm as a stamina sorc still.

FENGRUSH

Tested thundering presence:

With unbuffed full DPS equip: 700damage as compared to 1.2k caltrops (so it does about 58% of a massive AOE that can be placed for 30 seconds while thundering requires you to be point blank to do almost half of that)

Magicka version with also no food or ANY magicka damage setup: 350 damage vs 1.2k caltrops.

So stacking up your stam damage will allow you to do a bit more than double the magicka version. It is likely that the magicka version can be amped up to do more damage than the current stam morph. Additionally, magicka sorcs have better survival in close range than stam sorcs. ZOS has to really understand what a stam sorc is and how its played given the very limited/nonexistant skill set theyve offered them. On top of that, the magicka version has the speed which is one of the primary reasons this would be on your bar to begin with.




There is no stam sorc that will use this morph in its current version, at least given the knowledge of trade-offs. I have little doubt this will be changed before release and "fixed", but stam sorc still takes a hit in many other categories and this change has offered very little benefit. This should be doing at least 3x the damage of caltrops if theyre not giving anything else to stam sorc.


But honestly, Id rather see more diverse 'options'. Having boundless storm is an absolute *MUST* for any stam sorc for the 1)armor 2)speed. Sorcs have no immediate heals. Additionally, stam sorcs cant rely on shields or a large amount of blinks. This puts them in a weird place. Rather than continue to amp a skill that is already a must on our bar, why not alter some underused skills and make them interesting options for people to put in? Give us a chance to think and make choices and have diverse builds. The current options are horrendous.

skillastat

^

what he said

Ahzek

Glorious lord fengrush is correct !
As a soon to be stam sorc I would love ZOS to actually get their creative juices flowing regarding the specc. Encase seems like it has great potential for a stam morph for example. Maybe giving a morph to make it single target with a decently strong damage on expiring could help.

An another note i have not yet tested this, but it seems that rapid strikes will no longer be able to provide heals through crit surge, since it is treated as a DoT by mechanics such as valkyn skoria or rune cage.

Please FIX IT !

Rastoric

skillastatb16_ESO wrote: »

I think every stamina sorc will agree with me that the magicka morph is more appealing since it gives speed buff and not the stamina one.

@ZOS

GET IT RIGHT FOR ONCE PLEASE

Yes, please fix it by switching it back to a Magicka based skil

SeptimusDova

Is it just me or does it seem like ZOS is short coders/devs ?