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When can we start buying characters directly at vet?, instead of playing through all the quests?
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I want to try out different classes, but sure as hell dont want to re level through all the quests that i have already played. The second option which a grind fest is even more boring.
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Rev Rielle✭✭✭✭✭
✭Veteran Ranks are still scheduled for being removed, so this will likely never happen.
Though one day a level 50 character may be available in the Crown Store, but I think it wouldn't be wise to purchase as you would have a husk of a character with no skill, skill points, or skill-trees progressed.If you can be anything, be kind.0 -
Rinmaethodain✭✭✭✭✭
✭I want to try out different classes, but sure as hell dont want to re level through all the quests that i have already played. The second option which a grind fest is even more boring.
So you want something but you dont want to work for it? Lel : )
Also if you find grinding boring, im sorry to say, but you kind of are in wrong place. This is MMO game, and grinding is at the very core of MMO idea. Grinding is part of it.
The classes description provide available on various sites provide enough information to get idea what they are about and what to pick.
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Korozenn✭✭✭✭This isn't WoW. This isn't Skyrim 2.0.
I wouldn't be surprised if ZeniMax opens all areas for exploration at Lv 50 upon finishing Coldharbour, though. Would be very nice to have end-game be the "go anywhere, do whatever you want" thing Elder Scrolls games are known for doing.Edited by Korozenn on July 25, 2015 10:10AM3 -
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✭✭✭When can you start buying levels you ask? Try never.
Too many MMORPGs let you buy your way to the top and this isn't one of them and that actually makes it enjoyable. F**k p2w and props to Zenimax for not using it.Guildmaster of Power With Numbers in PS4 NA Server's Aldmeri Dominion.
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✭✭✭To be honest while I do think this is a terrible idea it becomes more and more tempting with each alt I try to level...5 -
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✭✭✭✭✭What DCUO did was allowed people to BUY 'skill points' on a new character that they had acquired the feats for on a another character. Since some of those feats took forever to grind out, it was nice to be able to skip them and just buy those feats and get the SPs for them.
The same could be done with ESO. They could charge 'Crowns' to copy "ability points", the problem is, classes. Because each class has three different skill lines, not even mentioning the individual weapon lines, unless you've previously leveled those skill lines, I can't see giving someone credit for doing so. It is one thing if you are a Sorc and you're creating a second Sorc character, then you clearly have leveled those class skill lines previously so this wouldn't be a problem. However, if you are a Sorc and you're creating a first time Dragonknight, then I don't think you should just have instant access to all those abilities- you should have to level them the first time like anyone else.CP: 1965 ** ESO+ Gold Road ** ~~ Stamina Arcanist ~~ Magicka Warden ~~ Magicka Templar ~~ ***** Strictly a solo PvE quester *****0 -
Avenias✭✭✭✭What DCUO did was allowed people to BUY 'skill points' on a new character that they had acquired the feats for on a another character. Since some of those feats took forever to grind out, it was nice to be able to skip them and just buy those feats and get the SPs for them.
The same could be done with ESO. They could charge 'Crowns' to copy "ability points", the problem is, classes. Because each class has three different skill lines, not even mentioning the individual weapon lines, unless you've previously leveled those skill lines, I can't see giving someone credit for doing so. It is one thing if you are a Sorc and you're creating a second Sorc character, then you clearly have leveled those class skill lines previously so this wouldn't be a problem. However, if you are a Sorc and you're creating a first time Dragonknight, then I don't think you should just have instant access to all those abilities- you should have to level them the first time like anyone else.
Being able to start off a certain lvl from start is very important, especially if you want to play with your friends who are already very high lvl. It has 0 harm and all the benefits to bring in more players to play with for end game content.0 -
Rinmaethodain✭✭✭✭✭
✭To be honest while I do think this is a terrible idea it becomes more and more tempting with each alt I try to level...
Good we are absolutely not forced to make alts at all and we only can choose to make them.
Tho, reading OPs post, i agree that ESO could use some kind of a sandbox mode, given that there is a lot of possible play options, and more will come as there are new DLCs and skill lines.
A sandbox mode would be meant to those who REALLY want to test different builds before deciding what to play. This mode should not be directed at greedy PVPers who want to create builds on top of any broken skill, looking for exploits and trying to find max damage combos. Only at people who sincerely want to check things out before deciding what they want to play.
Thus, in a sandbox mode player would obtain a character of given lvl with all skills unlocked and ready to be morphed in both ways. Player will be able to pick race and class of character. And will be given basic selection of gear. Like one click equip light/med/heavy, equip type of weapon etc.
Skills will include WW and vamp line.
After selecting a template like that player will be in a sandbox mode area (where he still can swap gear/weapons) and he will have a dummy enemies to test:
Single enemy weak, single enemy strong, single enemy boss class
Multiple enemies swarm, multiple enemies regular, multiple enemies dungeon type, multiple bosses
This should let player test his build both against single target or multiple targets.
Of course standard, anything happening in sandbox have 0 impact on real character on live server. No access to special sets, enchancements all that stuff. Because just to catch a glimpse how it is to play each class can be done with just basic gear. Its meant to let people check out if that style is good for them.
If its ok, then they can do any fine tuning including gear on live server when they already start to play game.Edited by Rinmaethodain on July 25, 2015 11:02AM0 -
Rinmaethodain✭✭✭✭✭
✭What DCUO did was allowed people to BUY 'skill points' on a new character that they had acquired the feats for on a another character. Since some of those feats took forever to grind out, it was nice to be able to skip them and just buy those feats and get the SPs for them.
The same could be done with ESO. They could charge 'Crowns' to copy "ability points", the problem is, classes. Because each class has three different skill lines, not even mentioning the individual weapon lines, unless you've previously leveled those skill lines, I can't see giving someone credit for doing so. It is one thing if you are a Sorc and you're creating a second Sorc character, then you clearly have leveled those class skill lines previously so this wouldn't be a problem. However, if you are a Sorc and you're creating a first time Dragonknight, then I don't think you should just have instant access to all those abilities- you should have to level them the first time like anyone else.
Being able to start off a certain lvl from start is very important, especially if you want to play with your friends who are already very high lvl. It has 0 harm and all the benefits to bring in more players to play with for end game content.
It has a lot of harm.
It creates population of skillless players who bought their way to the top. They wont know game mechanics, they wont know how to fight different types of enemies, they wont know basic terms used in game or tactics even in PVE.
It will be right now with all the endgame rushers who rush to the mythic and legendary endgame forgetting that before end there is still some game in here. And when they reach max lvl they start complaining there is nothing to do, and at the same time you group with them and they are like
"whats pledge? whats AD, EP, DC? tank, dps, heals, what you talk about i just want to play? oh no i died, ill try to rush that part again head on few times to see if result will be same <dies again at same boss>"Edited by Rinmaethodain on July 25, 2015 11:00AM1 -
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cazlonb16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭Being able to start off a certain lvl from start is very important, especially if you want to play with your friends who are already very high lvl. It has 0 harm and all the benefits to bring in more players to play with for end game content.
Well, you see, therein lies the problem. There is very very limited end game content. The entire point of the vet levels as well as the Champion system is to mask that fact and to keep players grinding away in the hamster wheel.
So it's probably safe to say we won't see lvl 50 ( or otherwise leveled ) chars in the crown store until there has been a substantial amount of content updates.0 -
Merlight✭✭✭✭✭@MaximusDargus your sandbox mode sounds much like the PTSIt is one thing if you are a Sorc and you're creating a second Sorc character, then you clearly have leveled those class skill lines previously so this wouldn't be a problem.
That would be another nail in the coffin of non-vet PvP.Edited by Merlight on July 25, 2015 11:25AMEU ‣ Wabbajack nostalgic ‣ Blackwater Blade defender ‣ Kyne wanderer
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✭@MaximusDargus sounds like the PTSIt is one thing if you are a Sorc and you're creating a second Sorc character, then you clearly have leveled those class skill lines previously so this wouldn't be a problem.
That would be another nail in the coffin of non-vet PvP.
Yes but no at the same time. The shared part is that progress is separate from live server.
The biggest difference would be that player wont be given all the content of game to test build. They will have a simplified version. Of a size of a normal dungeon. Multiple rooms to fight and a dressing room.
Also right now, on PTS there are only premade templates, im not sure if they are customizable in any way. And there is way too much gear given to player, it can just confuse someone starting in new game, rather than help.0 -
ghostwise✭✭✭Wouldn't said purchased character be severely gimped in the skill point category? You won't have all the skill points from sky shards and quests.
No thanks. 
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✭✭sudo player.setlevel 66
It works, I swear!Edited by Gyudan on July 25, 2015 11:35AMWololo.1 -
RustedValor✭✭✭You can skip all the quests through grinding and also level to 50 in a few hours using XP potions. Then all you have to do is the Main Quest and Cold Harbor. Cladwells Silver however is unskippable, but only takes a few hours to rip through the faction main quest. Alternatively you could JUST do the faction quests, collect skyshards and do dungeouns and dolmens, and mix in some grinding. Option 3 is level to 50 through PvP once you hit level 10.Edited by RustedValor on July 25, 2015 11:54AM0
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dRudE✭✭✭Isn't this kind of character template stuff for games with a dying population so that new players can catch up to friends quicker? Don't get me wrong I'd take full advantage of something like this I just don't think ESO needs it just yet.~Necrow0 -
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Averya_Teira✭✭✭✭✭MaximusDargus wrote: »What DCUO did was allowed people to BUY 'skill points' on a new character that they had acquired the feats for on a another character. Since some of those feats took forever to grind out, it was nice to be able to skip them and just buy those feats and get the SPs for them.
The same could be done with ESO. They could charge 'Crowns' to copy "ability points", the problem is, classes. Because each class has three different skill lines, not even mentioning the individual weapon lines, unless you've previously leveled those skill lines, I can't see giving someone credit for doing so. It is one thing if you are a Sorc and you're creating a second Sorc character, then you clearly have leveled those class skill lines previously so this wouldn't be a problem. However, if you are a Sorc and you're creating a first time Dragonknight, then I don't think you should just have instant access to all those abilities- you should have to level them the first time like anyone else.
Being able to start off a certain lvl from start is very important, especially if you want to play with your friends who are already very high lvl. It has 0 harm and all the benefits to bring in more players to play with for end game content.
It has a lot of harm.
It creates population of skillless players who bought their way to the top. They wont know game mechanics, they wont know how to fight different types of enemies, they wont know basic terms used in game or tactics even in PVE.
It will be right now with all the endgame rushers who rush to the mythic and legendary endgame forgetting that before end there is still some game in here. And when they reach max lvl they start complaining there is nothing to do, and at the same time you group with them and they are like
"whats pledge? whats AD, EP, DC? tank, dps, heals, what you talk about i just want to play? oh no i died, ill try to rush that part again head on few times to see if result will be same <dies again at same boss>"
Or you know... the option could only activate when you get a lvl 50 the good old fashioned way ? So that doesn't create clueless people that don't know anything ?
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Avenias✭✭✭✭Averya_Teira wrote: »MaximusDargus wrote: »What DCUO did was allowed people to BUY 'skill points' on a new character that they had acquired the feats for on a another character. Since some of those feats took forever to grind out, it was nice to be able to skip them and just buy those feats and get the SPs for them.
The same could be done with ESO. They could charge 'Crowns' to copy "ability points", the problem is, classes. Because each class has three different skill lines, not even mentioning the individual weapon lines, unless you've previously leveled those skill lines, I can't see giving someone credit for doing so. It is one thing if you are a Sorc and you're creating a second Sorc character, then you clearly have leveled those class skill lines previously so this wouldn't be a problem. However, if you are a Sorc and you're creating a first time Dragonknight, then I don't think you should just have instant access to all those abilities- you should have to level them the first time like anyone else.
Being able to start off a certain lvl from start is very important, especially if you want to play with your friends who are already very high lvl. It has 0 harm and all the benefits to bring in more players to play with for end game content.
It has a lot of harm.
It creates population of skillless players who bought their way to the top. They wont know game mechanics, they wont know how to fight different types of enemies, they wont know basic terms used in game or tactics even in PVE.
It will be right now with all the endgame rushers who rush to the mythic and legendary endgame forgetting that before end there is still some game in here. And when they reach max lvl they start complaining there is nothing to do, and at the same time you group with them and they are like
"whats pledge? whats AD, EP, DC? tank, dps, heals, what you talk about i just want to play? oh no i died, ill try to rush that part again head on few times to see if result will be same <dies again at same boss>"
Or you know... the option could only activate when you get a lvl 50 the good old fashioned way ? So that doesn't create clueless people that don't know anything ?
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Pangnirtung✭✭✭✭✭And while we're at it how about the Emperorship?
No sense in playing this game to get anything when you can buy it.2 -
CapnPhoton✭✭✭✭✭UltimaJoe777 wrote: »When can you start buying levels you ask? Try never.
Too many MMORPGs let you buy your way to the top and this isn't one of them and that actually makes it enjoyable. F**k p2w and props to Zenimax for not using it.
I agree. However with such a lot of interest, it will probably be an option eventually. The business model is after all about micro transactions.
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Voodism✭✭#*$^! Off with that stuff.
Thats the most annoying thing i've ever seen in any ARPG or MMO.
Earn it..Edited by Voodism on July 25, 2015 3:15PM1
