Anything good to say about PVP

sambo5565

I'm yet to go to the PVP area. I can honestly say I've been put off a little by the way everyone talks about it. Is there any good points to PVP? I want to try it but everyone has made it sound awful.

WillhelmBlack

It's literally the best gaming experience you can have with a small group. Stay away from EP's exploits, Meteor spammers (causes lag in order to take keeps), Steel Tornado trains (a group of cowards that can't fight on their own for toffee, but will insta-kill you from 20 ft away) and you can have tons of fun in between keeps and fighting over resources!

SahrotRein

As for me, I love the way PvP works. It's not a PvP I've ever experienced and I always considered it to be the cool feature of the game.
But I can't really play PvP and have fun now since I have lags during sieges and big skirmishes. Basically more than around 20 players on the screen causes lag at points I need it the least. And when I see other people's game run smoothly during PvP I cry. I cry because they are upset about other less meaningful things but hey, at least they can play with no problem.

Strangely enough, PvP used to work like charm last year for me. It was smooth even with over 100 players on ¨the screen during big sieges. It was so smooth I cannot even imagine. Now I have to ambush and gank people 1v1 or 1v2 if I wanna avoid lags.

Sharee

PvP in general should be better once IC comes out. The same mass of player that used to fill just cyrodiil will be then spread out over at least 8 separate zones (cyrodiil, sewers, 6 IC districts). That means less zerging, less lag, etc.

TequilaFire

Just watch out for smurfs (DC) they are grumpy because there is only one smurfette. lol

TechnicalGeezer

You should never rely your opinions on other people whose hating on it.
PvP is brilliant. Don't get me wrong there are some annoying moments here and there but overall, the experience is very new to me and I love it.

Just as @Sharee said, PvP should be better when IC comes out.

Winterpsy

I have good experience with pvp.

I pulled a few guidelines for myself to max out enjoyment. Like. Stay away from zerg hoard. Pretty much I treat my character seriously, as if he had only one life. That helps a lot to assess the situation beforehand and prevent to do stupid mistakes, like "heroically" rushing into the middle to 20 enemy players and so on. Similarly spending time to pick the right terrain, not just following the train of horsemen.

One can do a lot of things to make his own life miserable and end up horsing back and forth. And one can also prevent these if you know what to watch out for. Like the tide of skirmishes. (If I see a battle icon on the map, and gauge the time required to reach it, it's right about when I'd reach it, the tide would be coming my way, so better wait in the keep and setting up defense than rushing to the other end of the map just to see dead teammates and wrecked by an enemy horde)

In Zerg-mode I cant really see where is the enemy, where the team mates are, and where the arrows are coming, because the whole thing is pretty much a colorful chaos with spells and explosions everywhere.

There's a lot of strategy in there. Play smart, play your role, dont try to be a hero. Heros are focused down and die pretty swiftly. And you'll have a sweet experience with the game.

Morvul

ESOs PvP is one of the best, if not THE best MMO-PvP experience out there - as long as you manage to avoid the lag and the exploiters, both of which is tricky

Drakk89815

PvP is fantastic as long as you have a good group/guild to join in with. I play Xbox and i don't get lag issues so its no problem. Yes there are stronger players out there (especially from PC transfer) but in a good guild with a group of you, you can generally hold your own against the strongest enemies. The continual battle for keeps is entertaining and challenging.

My only concern tends to be if you have player number imbalance on your campaign. If one alliance has a massive number advantage it doesn't matter how strong you are, or how skilled you are in gameplay/tactics, unfortunately you can't hold your own.

That doesn't mean you can't enjoy sneaking behind enemy lines to hit anchors/dungeons/quests/skyshards or that lone player running about you can ambush. Oh and if an alliance holds all the keeps, its always hilarious to get a group, sneak up to their main and hit the keep to open their gate

Leandor

The PvP experience is what caught me in the early days and kept me until now. There is much to complain about, sure, especially some creative uses of game mechanics (read: developer cockups), but in it's essence, this is the most fun gameplay I ever had.

By now, what I usually do is take a couple days break when and if the so-called pro players get on my nerves too much. That is all it needs to get motivated to jump back in.

And this comes from a player that usually spurned PvP in all MMORPGs I tried so far (online player since mid 90s).

I can't resist on commenting on this one, though:

WillhelmBlack wrote: »

It's literally the best gaming experience you can have with a small group. Stay away from EP's exploits, Meteor spammers (causes lag in order to take keeps), Steel Tornado trains (a group of cowards that can't fight on their own for toffee, but will insta-kill you from 20 ft away) and you can have tons of fun in between keeps and fighting over resources!

Wow, if I ever saw a petty and moping rant, this one is a strong contender for the top spot.

Reznique

It's absolutely great.

Just as in any other game, it takes some skill (at least for now, but wait for those with over99999 champion points soon).

PVP is a great way to experience a completely different aspect of ESO, especially after you get tired from PVE.

It does have some issues, but I personally love ESO just for the PVP.

mtwiggz

PvP is the only reason why I still play ESO.

When you're not lagged out or getting hit by ridiculous FPS drops its a whole lot of fun. Definitely more challenging to learn and be competent at than the PvE content ESO has to offer.

I'd recommend giving it a go. The learning curve is somewhat steep at first but rounds itself off quite quickly. I would spend some time in the non-vet campaigns before jumping straight to vet PvP where it's not uncommon to get one or two shot if you don't know what you're doing.

BRogueNZ

it will be awful until you learn to counter the awful then it becomes awful at times due to things that are just awful and unable to unawfulised

WillhelmBlack

Leandor wrote: »

The PvP experience is what caught me in the early days and kept me until now. There is much to complain about, sure, especially some creative uses of game mechanics (read: developer cockups), but in it's essence, this is the most fun gameplay I ever had.

By now, what I usually do is take a couple days break when and if the so-called pro players get on my nerves too much. That is all it needs to get motivated to jump back in.

And this comes from a player that usually spurned PvP in all MMORPGs I tried so far (online player since mid 90s).

I can't resist on commenting on this one, though:

WillhelmBlack wrote: »

It's literally the best gaming experience you can have with a small group. Stay away from EP's exploits, Meteor spammers (causes lag in order to take keeps), Steel Tornado trains (a group of cowards that can't fight on their own for toffee, but will insta-kill you from 20 ft away) and you can have tons of fun in between keeps and fighting over resources!

Wow, if I ever saw a petty and moping rant, this one is a strong contender for the top spot.

You just wrote the same as me. I don't get it.

Leandor

WillhelmBlack wrote: »

Leandor wrote: »

The PvP experience is what caught me in the early days and kept me until now. There is much to complain about, sure, especially some creative uses of game mechanics (read: developer cockups), but in it's essence, this is the most fun gameplay I ever had.

By now, what I usually do is take a couple days break when and if the so-called pro players get on my nerves too much. That is all it needs to get motivated to jump back in.

And this comes from a player that usually spurned PvP in all MMORPGs I tried so far (online player since mid 90s).

I can't resist on commenting on this one, though:

WillhelmBlack wrote: »

It's literally the best gaming experience you can have with a small group. Stay away from EP's exploits, Meteor spammers (causes lag in order to take keeps), Steel Tornado trains (a group of cowards that can't fight on their own for toffee, but will insta-kill you from 20 ft away) and you can have tons of fun in between keeps and fighting over resources!

Wow, if I ever saw a petty and moping rant, this one is a strong contender for the top spot.

You just wrote the same as me. I don't get it.

The difference between you and me? You blame one of your opponents. I blame the game mechanics. Do you sincerely think that these things are caused by a single faction?

Cherryblossom

as mentioned by others, PVP is amazing fun in ESO when it's working well....

But, there are a great many issues.... The lag caused a mass exodus from the game, having been in two big PVP guilds who's number plumeted during the worst time, I have not noticed a great return of these old players even though there have been significant improvements.
To put in context we used to average at least random 2 crashes an hour, I have now only had one in the past 2 months! The lag at prime time in high populated campaigns was a constant really. They have reduced populations and made some changes which have improved this so it's no longer constant, but you can still instantly tell when you are close to a few large groups by the increase in latency and inability to open doors
Macro's that exploit animation cancelling seem to be on the increase, so expect some what appear to be one hit kills from one person, although the kill description shows 5 attacks that seem to of hit instantly!

But all in all, try PVP, type LFG when to enter the zone and one of the many groups running around will pick you up. At that point follow the crown and see if you can help kill some people. As long as you're not hit by many of the bugs to often you will enjoy yourself, even if it seems your dying all the time.

WillhelmBlack

Leandor wrote: »

WillhelmBlack wrote: »

Leandor wrote: »

The PvP experience is what caught me in the early days and kept me until now. There is much to complain about, sure, especially some creative uses of game mechanics (read: developer cockups), but in it's essence, this is the most fun gameplay I ever had.

By now, what I usually do is take a couple days break when and if the so-called pro players get on my nerves too much. That is all it needs to get motivated to jump back in.

And this comes from a player that usually spurned PvP in all MMORPGs I tried so far (online player since mid 90s).

I can't resist on commenting on this one, though:

WillhelmBlack wrote: »

It's literally the best gaming experience you can have with a small group. Stay away from EP's exploits, Meteor spammers (causes lag in order to take keeps), Steel Tornado trains (a group of cowards that can't fight on their own for toffee, but will insta-kill you from 20 ft away) and you can have tons of fun in between keeps and fighting over resources!

Wow, if I ever saw a petty and moping rant, this one is a strong contender for the top spot.

You just wrote the same as me. I don't get it.

The difference between you and me? You blame one of your opponents. I blame the game mechanics. Do you sincerely think that these things are caused by a single faction?

Oh right I'm with you now. Yeah, on EU server it's just EP that exploit this games mechanics.

Leandor

WillhelmBlack wrote: »

Leandor wrote: »

WillhelmBlack wrote: »

Leandor wrote: »

The PvP experience is what caught me in the early days and kept me until now. There is much to complain about, sure, especially some creative uses of game mechanics (read: developer cockups), but in it's essence, this is the most fun gameplay I ever had.

By now, what I usually do is take a couple days break when and if the so-called pro players get on my nerves too much. That is all it needs to get motivated to jump back in.

And this comes from a player that usually spurned PvP in all MMORPGs I tried so far (online player since mid 90s).

I can't resist on commenting on this one, though:

WillhelmBlack wrote: »

It's literally the best gaming experience you can have with a small group. Stay away from EP's exploits, Meteor spammers (causes lag in order to take keeps), Steel Tornado trains (a group of cowards that can't fight on their own for toffee, but will insta-kill you from 20 ft away) and you can have tons of fun in between keeps and fighting over resources!

Wow, if I ever saw a petty and moping rant, this one is a strong contender for the top spot.

You just wrote the same as me. I don't get it.

The difference between you and me? You blame one of your opponents. I blame the game mechanics. Do you sincerely think that these things are caused by a single faction?

Oh right I'm with you now. Yeah, on EU server it's just EP that exploit this games mechanics.

See, that is what I mean. Thinking that is even remotely true is what I mean with petty.

Hope499

Only people who dont bother trying to understand the PvP hate it.

For those of us that love it, it has many fun elements to it, get a large group, plan attacks and defenses, re-work your skills for PvP purposes, or even just do delves and skyshard hunting with the extra excitement of getting rolled on any second.

Sausage

Fantasy 3 faction mass PVP with siege mechanics? Tell me one game what does that. If that doesnt interest you, maybe its just you. Or maybe you just trolled, Im not sure.

Molag_Crow

Try it for yourself and see, that's the best way to experience something. Never listen to others unless they're only trying to warn you or give you advice, but don't let others put you off. PvP isn't that bad, I mean.. I'm saying this right now when I've only just been ganked 3 times in a row in the last 30 mins while doing a Dark Anchor; dying on the final boss to a player and then being ganked questing -- yeah it made me mad, but it's just how it is and it's part of the game.

You'll get one-shotted by the most stupidest spells in the game, like Ice Comet, Soul Tether, etc etc - but it doesn't always happen and you can find ways to avoid them sometimes, and have fun... I do recommend you go with another person at least, or find a group/raid.

Tolmos

It's amazing for small group pvp, and the sieges are a ton of fun. Until you have been playing a long time, I would avoid 1v1 with anyone; if they are a grinder or botter, their stats alone will wreck you. BUT, chances are that you will have a few ginders/botters on your team as well. Let them duke it out amongst each other while you focus on the small fry casuals/new hardcores.

And make sure, if you are vamp, to keep your vamp level at 1 or the catapults will ruin you.

Only real complaint in PvP is that it takes... so... long to get to the combat. Not EVE Online kind of long, but long all the same.

markt84

PvP is the best part of the game, no sure what else to say about it

sambo5565

nice to see there's some people out there that don't constantly moan about it thanks guys

Tobius

I play a lot of mmos and ESO is the only one where I do the PvP because it is so much fun. Yes, I get ganked a lot, get one shoted a lot, get burned by siege. The PvP in ESO people have a good time and for the most part they are just out for a good time.

Zershar_Vemod

It's not as bad as SWTOR....so that's ............something.

NobleNerd

WillhelmBlack wrote: »

It's literally the best gaming experience you can have with a small group. Stay away from EP's exploits, Meteor spammers (causes lag in order to take keeps), Steel Tornado trains (a group of cowards that can't fight on their own for toffee, but will insta-kill you from 20 ft away) and you can have tons of fun in between keeps and fighting over resources!

LOL ... I love how everyone thinks just one faction is causing/using some sort of exploit to win a battle. I play mostly on EP right now and I have seen DC and AD both spamming abilities like this in large fights.

ZOS needs to fix the issue with multiple abilities being used that overloads the servers. Maybe if the didn't stream so much it would help. A lot of data is still streamed instead of it pulling from our computers.

Teiji

PvP will be a great experience as long as you have a Sorcerer available for non-vet Tel Var Stone farming in Imperial City, make sure to bring at least 230 Champion Points; vampirism adds a helpful escape to all classes too; this is very helpful for solo play, combined with Bolt Escape you'll have a fun time in non-vet PvP, the more CP you have, the more fun you'll have.

Tavore1138

PvP here can be pretty cool.

You do have acknowledge the known problems - lag can be a pain when the servers are busy, any bug WILL be exploited by a proportion of those that know about it & running into a 60+ train is a painful experience most of the time.

But...

You can have some great fun roaming solo either picking people off the edges of larger battles, hunting for enemies who are travelling to combat or simply getting involved in the 'set piece' combats without being part of a group.

And also you can have great fun in a group of 4 or 12 or 24 doing all the same things.

Some of the best combats are the raid vs raid stuff when it's not a huge zerg but two groups that know what they are doing and each knows the other so that both groups are trying to out-guess and out-manoeuvre each other... great win you win but also sometimes great when you lose to a clever tactic.. and even better when you turn that tactic around on them and win.

And, you know what, using the right mix of abilities in a team & the right set when solo or in a small group is part of the game - if you are a DW stamina player in a team and you don't have Steel Tornado slotted for keep battles then you are missing a trick, if you are a heavy magicka build without Detonation then you should consider it and if you are about to run through siege into a keep and you don't have barrier or purge then you are going to be one dead solider.

RDMyers65b14_ESO

It depends on the campaign. Last few days, I decided that I had had enough of the exploits and team orange (both attacking Glad at the same time three times in a row, you can not tell me that isn't coordinated) that I made a character specifically for blackwater blade. I have had more fun with her playing PvP than I ever have on the vet level campaigns as I am not being ganked by invisible night blades before I can react. I can at least fight back. Mind you, my character is only level 11 now and I will do silly things like guard a keep to play early warning system to let people know that the keep is under attack long before it shows burst. PVP is much more enjoyable if you can fight back, so I will not be using my V14 Templar healer in PvP anymore.

Machiavelli

Yes, I enjoy pvp. I enjoying slaughtering the masses. PvP is awesome in this game.