bow dps

barbarian340

methinks bow dps needs a major buff...i would like to be able to use it as a primary means of ranged dps and be competitive with staff

Merlin13KAGL

Bow needs buffed to be competitive with staff? You're joking, right?

barbarian340

Merlin13KAGL wrote: »

Bow needs buffed to be competitive with staff? You're joking, right?

no im serious...if it were just as powerful, why dont ppl ever use bows with sorcery?

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barbarian340

Spectral_Lord wrote: »

barbarian340 wrote: »

Merlin13KAGL wrote: »

Bow needs buffed to be competitive with staff? You're joking, right?

no im serious...if it were just as powerful, why dont ppl ever use bows with sorcery?

My Sorcerer uses a bow...

are u in endgame?

barbarian340

Spectral_Lord wrote: »

barbarian340 wrote: »

Merlin13KAGL wrote: »

Bow needs buffed to be competitive with staff? You're joking, right?

no im serious...if it were just as powerful, why dont ppl ever use bows with sorcery?

My Sorcerer uses a bow...

how does it do in pve dps?

Merlin13KAGL

barbarian340 wrote: »

Merlin13KAGL wrote: »

Bow needs buffed to be competitive with staff? You're joking, right?

no im serious...if it were just as powerful, why dont ppl ever use bows with sorcery?

You really are serious?

Uh...they do. Have you never heard of a stam(ina) Sorc? Bow is widely used due to the additional range and damage it can produce with the right build, plus the innate bonus of not being reflectable.

If you're talking Light and Heavy attacks, Weapon Damage is far easier to increase than Spell Damage is. If you're talking Weapon skills, pound for pound, bow can easily be on par with or significantly higher than any stave damage out there.

Overall DPS is rarely about one of two skills for any class/build, but about the combination and rotation, along with the build.

I'm not sure what content you are looking at (PvE/PvP?), but I assure you bow is working just fine in the DPS rankings.

MCMancub

Bow is good in PvP thanks to stealth snipe, but in PvE it's mostly just used to apply some AOE's or a debuff here or there. It could use a PvE buff, in my opinion.

Ooharry20oO

Im an archer dk that uses two bows and have a 1500 weapon damage snipe alone is doing 5235 damage not including poison effects

QuebraRegra

checking in... So current evidence is still showing LETHAL ARROW outclassing FOCUSED AIM?

I went with FOCUSED AIM, but wonder how the other half lives.

MCMancub

QuebraRegra wrote: »

checking in... So current evidence is still showing LETHAL ARROW outclassing FOCUSED AIM?

I went with FOCUSED AIM, but wonder how the other half lives.

I think it really depends on what you do more of, PvE or PvP. Focused Aim is the clear winner for PvE, since Major and Minor debuffs of the same type stack. As a Stam NB I get a ton of armor penetration with Focused Aim.

bowmanz607

i do fine in trials with a bow. I can get roughly 11k dps. that is the standard for dps in there. not saying it is the best but still pretty good.

bowmanz607

QuebraRegra wrote: »

checking in... So current evidence is still showing LETHAL ARROW outclassing FOCUSED AIM?

I went with FOCUSED AIM, but wonder how the other half lives.

focused aim is better for pve content. lethal for pvp

Ooharry20oO

Yeah focused is mainly for pve lethal arrow combine with the 12% bonus damaga based on range makes a crazy good combo for pvp

barbarian340

i was talking pve...most ppl say it needs a buff...every high dps build i see uses staff if it is ranged...i rarely see stamina dps that uses bow as the PRIMARY source of damage...most have it as a secondary means

bowmanz607

barbarian340 wrote: »

i was talking pve...most ppl say it needs a buff...every high dps build i see uses staff if it is ranged...i rarely see stamina dps that uses bow as the PRIMARY source of damage...most have it as a secondary means

i mean lets be real DW is going to give you great dps for stam and the best dps for magicka. but i dont think the bow needs a buff. just stay at the max range you can get for extra dps

QuebraRegra

Ooharry20oO wrote: »

Yeah focused is mainly for pve lethal arrow combine with the 12% bonus damaga based on range makes a crazy good combo for pvp

Cr@p... I guess I need another respec. Thanx.

Lynx7386

barbarian340 wrote: »

methinks bow dps needs a major buff...i would like to be able to use it as a primary means of ranged dps and be competitive with staff

I'm going to take a guess that you havent unlocked snipe yet.

The bow active abilities/attacks in general leave a lot to be desired, but snipe is the golden point of the entire skill line. Once you get snipe, your damage potential skyrockets.

I think one of the big issues with the bow line right now, though, is that it lacks a major brutality buff (2handed has this, and dual wield is getting it soon, personally I'd like to see that buff available to all of the damage-oriented physical weapons, so that means bow needs to be added to the mix).

Lynx7386

Also, I vastly prefer focused aim over lethal arrow. I went with lethal arrow to begin with, thinking it'd be the better option due to the poison damage/healing debuff, but after changing over to focused aim I'll never go back. The damage is so much more impressive, and it works great with the mighty perk in the champion point system (which boosts physical damage).

MCMancub

Lynx7386 wrote: »

barbarian340 wrote: »

methinks bow dps needs a major buff...i would like to be able to use it as a primary means of ranged dps and be competitive with staff

I'm going to take a guess that you havent unlocked snipe yet.

The bow active abilities/attacks in general leave a lot to be desired, but snipe is the golden point of the entire skill line. Once you get snipe, your damage potential skyrockets.

I think one of the big issues with the bow line right now, though, is that it lacks a major brutality buff (2handed has this, and dual wield is getting it soon, personally I'd like to see that buff available to all of the damage-oriented physical weapons, so that means bow needs to be added to the mix).

I don't disagree that it does improve your damage, but compared to DW (an already lacking weapon line other than Steel Tornado) it really is just an afterthought in PvE situations. I swap to apply AOE's, debuffs, and occasionally throw a Focused Aim before switching back, but even the cast time of it has me sometimes skipping that step.

asteldian

It does need a buff, but it is tricky because in PvP it is very powerful. In pve it is adequate, but pretty much every other weapon in a build will do superior dps.

Ooharry20oO

I disagree about a archer being useless in pve using a combo of ash cloud arrow barrage and snipe u can keepp a good distance while u lay down damage the only thing they need to buff is the arrow barrage but instead of increasing damage they will make it last longer in next update

bowmanz607

MCMancub wrote: »

Lynx7386 wrote: »

barbarian340 wrote: »

methinks bow dps needs a major buff...i would like to be able to use it as a primary means of ranged dps and be competitive with staff

I'm going to take a guess that you havent unlocked snipe yet.

The bow active abilities/attacks in general leave a lot to be desired, but snipe is the golden point of the entire skill line. Once you get snipe, your damage potential skyrockets.

I think one of the big issues with the bow line right now, though, is that it lacks a major brutality buff (2handed has this, and dual wield is getting it soon, personally I'd like to see that buff available to all of the damage-oriented physical weapons, so that means bow needs to be added to the mix).

I don't disagree that it does improve your damage, but compared to DW (an already lacking weapon line other than Steel Tornado) it really is just an afterthought in PvE situations. I swap to apply AOE's, debuffs, and occasionally throw a Focused Aim before switching back, but even the cast time of it has me sometimes skipping that step.

I love DW. great dps. I love rapid strikes, especially in pvp. Also, stell tornado as u pointed out is great. in fact, the best aoe in the game. I think the one thing the line was lacking is what it is getting in next update. the buff to hidden blade. I will be running two DW bars when the update hits. Not to mention, the extra set bonus you get.