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Proximity Detonation is an OP skill only for Sorcerers and Nightblades
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Why? Well, a Sorcerer can Bolt Escape to you with it active, whereas a Nightblade can activate it while cloaked and then stealth attack you. It's almost useless for Templars and Dragonknights.
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✭I allways laught when a NB try to stealthbomb me on my dk.
Well 9/10 they die, the other time they can escape.
Sorc is anoing, but not dangerous.Edited by BuggeX on July 9, 2015 3:51PM#makemagickadkgreataigan
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✭✭✭✭Yes, because Two-Handed, S&B, DK line, and Templar line all have no gap closers...
/facepalmJust because you don't like the way something is doesn't necessarily make it wrong...
Earn it.
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BugCollector✭✭✭✭Merlin13KAGL wrote: »Yes, because Two-Handed, S&B, DK line, and Templar line all have no gap closers...
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Lol, yea, you're right. I don't know what I was thinking, lol.May knowledge guide you to enlightenment0 -
Jbugz97✭✭✭i dont know about that i seen some great combos with DK .. Proximity Detonation + dragon leap you can 2 shot pl with theseNB v14 / DC / Shades of Jbugz
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✭Nb who stealth and use it give their general location away.....you will see a AOE circle from where they casted it.1 -
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✭✭My Templar Healer uses it all the time, since he's in the big middle of everything anyway, on the crown with heals.
(not when its lagging bad, tho lol)Edited by Xendyn on July 9, 2015 4:30PMLag is ruinin' my 'mershun!
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✭✭✭Just got hit by one for 20k damage....balance sucks...its so cheap with no way to fight back...
stealth, teleport, one shot kill boom, can't even fight back, see it coming or counter...Edited by Troneon on July 11, 2015 11:56AMPC EU ADMaster Crafter - Anything you need!!High Elf Magicka Templar Healer/DPS/TankTrials / Dungeons / PVP / Everything0 -
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✭✭Its going to be buffed in the next update believe it or not, the damage will increase if you hit more targets. Right now it already hits pretty hard, especially with 3.1k spell damage and 33k max magicka.
The major downside to this skill is the casting time, this usually takes way to long in a fight so you need to line of sight in order to cast it without getting interrupted.PC - EU (AD)Septimus Mezar - Altmer Sorcerer
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BugCollector✭✭✭✭Septimus_Magna wrote: »Its going to be buffed in the next update believe it or not, the damage will increase if you hit more targets. Right now it already hits pretty hard, especially with 3.1k spell damage and 33k max magicka.
The major downside to this skill is the casting time, this usually takes way to long in a fight so you need to line of sight in order to cast it without getting interrupted.
How do you get to 3.1k spell damage?May knowledge guide you to enlightenment0 -
pjwb16_ESO✭✭✭✭Sorcerer thing^^ its relativly obvious once you know your class~ here since Beta
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Its a wow factor move.. If theres allot going on and you get hit by it unknowingly you will be like HOLY CRAPPAGE!
now you shouldnt get hit by it if you understand how it works. research the ability thats all.0 -
Matem✭✭✭Master_Kas wrote: »
Not everyone uses med/heavy armor and nirnhoned
that's true but obviously there are *easy* ways to counter that skill and apparently people choose to whine instead of playing smart.
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✭Septimus_Magna wrote: »Its going to be buffed in the next update believe it or not, the damage will increase if you hit more targets. Right now it already hits pretty hard, especially with 3.1k spell damage and 33k max magicka.
The major downside to this skill is the casting time, this usually takes way to long in a fight so you need to line of sight in order to cast it without getting interrupted.
The base damage is being nerfed though.Lastobeth - VR16 Sorc - PvP Rank 41 (AD)
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When one skill forces you to use specific armor, enchants and traits just to avoid being one shot by cheap game mechanics and poor balance, maybe it's the skill that's the problem, not you...the combination of champion points and 3k+ spell damage doesn't help either I suppose...
But that must be the players fault right? l2p...go crazy survivability like everyone else in vet pvp or stfu blah blah blah...
Maybe balance skills, champion points and ya know the game so it doesn't force players all into one kind of play style and builds or risk getting one shot all the time? Kinda makes vet pvp pretty boring....and predictable..Edited by Troneon on July 12, 2015 3:09AMPC EU ADMaster Crafter - Anything you need!!High Elf Magicka Templar Healer/DPS/TankTrials / Dungeons / PVP / Everything0 -
uso245✭✭✭BugCollector wrote: »Why? Well, a Sorcerer can Bolt Escape to you with it active, whereas a Nightblade can activate it while cloaked and then stealth attack you. It's almost useless for Templars and Dragonknights.
Most of the players I see spamming it are Dragonknights that use Ferocious Leap or Take Flight in unison of the spell cause a giant AoE attack.My Facebook Page
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Caza99✭✭✭✭Reading through this thread, one word comes to mind for all those complaining about the massive damage - block. You can cut Prox Det's damage dramatically just by blocking. Also - useless for DKs!?!?! DO you even PvP? Dragon Leap > Prox Det is extremely powerful, and as some have already stated, can pretty much one shot players.pjwb16_ESO wrote: »l2p
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Farorin✭✭✭✭✭Reading through this thread, one word comes to mind for all those complaining about the massive damage - block. You can cut Prox Det's damage dramatically just by blocking. Also - useless for DKs!?!?! DO you even PvP? Dragon Leap > Prox Det is extremely powerful, and as some have already stated, can pretty much one shot players.pjwb16_ESO wrote: »l2p
Seeing as how I am so squishy, sometimes even while blocking, it will only take a 2-3 more attacks to kill me (including the gap closer used).
I ain't complaining though, I kill other people when they don't suspect it/aren't ready for it. So all is fair in love and PVP.1 -
Caza99✭✭✭✭Reading through this thread, one word comes to mind for all those complaining about the massive damage - block. You can cut Prox Det's damage dramatically just by blocking. Also - useless for DKs!?!?! DO you even PvP? Dragon Leap > Prox Det is extremely powerful, and as some have already stated, can pretty much one shot players.pjwb16_ESO wrote: »l2p
Seeing as how I am so squishy, sometimes even while blocking, it will only take a 2-3 more attacks to kill me (including the gap closer used).
I ain't complaining though, I kill other people when they don't suspect it/aren't ready for it. So all is fair in love and PVP.
One thing I've found is that if I can survive the initial Prox Det burst, most don't have a Plan B. They either run, or die. Either way you win.Edited by Caza99 on July 12, 2015 5:05AMPC NA - @MercerESO1 -
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This class can do something that my class cannot do threads...
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Edited by Funkopotamus on July 12, 2015 5:41AMAnything useful that players are wanting added into the game all fall under the category of "Yer ruinin my 'mersion!" Sallington2 -
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toppling charge and prox det?????????????BugCollector wrote: »Why? Well, a Sorcerer can Bolt Escape to you with it active, whereas a Nightblade can activate it while cloaked and then stealth attack you. It's almost useless for Templars and Dragonknights.
leap and prox det?????????????
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toppling charge and prox det?????????????BugCollector wrote: »Why? Well, a Sorcerer can Bolt Escape to you with it active, whereas a Nightblade can activate it while cloaked and then stealth attack you. It's almost useless for Templars and Dragonknights.
leap and prox det?????????????
learn your classesEdited by Nisto on July 12, 2015 9:27PM0 -
Mr_Nobody✭✭✭✭✭BugCollector wrote: »Why? Well, a Sorcerer can Bolt Escape to you with it active, whereas a Nightblade can activate it while cloaked and then stealth attack you. It's almost useless for Templars and Dragonknights.
I must have not 1 shot you yet with my proximity kamikaze templar ~ a few thousand other people must think differently. In fact, proximity deto favors templars the most.0 -
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✭✭Septimus_Magna wrote: »Its going to be buffed in the next update believe it or not, the damage will increase if you hit more targets. Right now it already hits pretty hard, especially with 3.1k spell damage and 33k max magicka.
The major downside to this skill is the casting time, this usually takes way to long in a fight so you need to line of sight in order to cast it without getting interrupted.
The base damage is being nerfed though.
That would be a good thing but I hardly use it in small scale fight because the cast time is too long. Proximity Detonation already is very effective to wipe bigger groups with 10-12 well timed detonations, especially when you catch them off-guard after they take a resource for example. If the damage for hitting multiple targets gets buffed this will probably stay an effective way to wipe groups after update 7.Edited by Septimus_Magna on July 13, 2015 8:22AMPC - EU (AD)Septimus Mezar - Altmer Sorcerer
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✭BugCollector wrote: »Why? Well, a Sorcerer can Bolt Escape to you with it active, whereas a Nightblade can activate it while cloaked and then stealth attack you. It's almost useless for Templars and Dragonknights.
Most of the players I see spamming it are Dragonknights that use Ferocious Leap or Take Flight in unison of the spell cause a giant AoE attack.
Well this musst be a NA Thing, i never saw in 2 mounths of just playing PVP, a DK using Prox Det and Take flight.
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✭BugCollector wrote: »Why? Well, a Sorcerer can Bolt Escape to you with it active, whereas a Nightblade can activate it while cloaked and then stealth attack you. It's almost useless for Templars and Dragonknights.
and dks and temps can charge you while active (bothe have a magca mased charge(like) ability.spelling and grammar errors are free to be abused
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✭BugCollector wrote: »Why? Well, a Sorcerer can Bolt Escape to you with it active, whereas a Nightblade can activate it while cloaked and then stealth attack you. It's almost useless for Templars and Dragonknights.
and dks and temps can charge you while active (bothe have a magca mased charge(like) ability.
Nope DK doesnt have a magicka based Charge, just saying
TakeFlight and mophs can scall with magicka yes, but deal pysical dmg.
Edited by BuggeX on July 13, 2015 2:36PM#makemagickadkgreataigan
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