Charactor "RACE" Change HELP!

mloveday

So my replied message from ESO about race change, Has anyone else messed up there race but cant put the time in to level again with what you want.

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Thank you for contacting The Elder Scrolls Online: Tamriel Unlimited support team with your query regarding changing the class of your character.

It is unfortunately not a service that we offer at the moment. You have here an idea. What I can suggest here is to voice this on our official forum and discuss this with fellow fans. If you gather enough support, your idea may be taken into consideration for future game improvement features. I am very sorry for this, it is in popular demand, so really go on the forum.

mloveday

I understand this is a touchy subject for some but for others who had no idea about the game play and character roles
who just picked a race and leveled it. it sits in the back of your mind are you leveling the right character and should you proceed with it

HobnailedBoots

If you picked it it's not a mistake. There is no wrong choice. If you want to play another race, you have seven more slots. You don't need to change your race.

Zazaaji

Wow that CSR is, to be direct/blunt, incredibly unknowledgefull (I know that's not a word, I can't figure out a good English word to replace it with) of both the forums and the already announced things that ZoS has stated.

1 - There have already been TONS of threads on this.
2 - So many that ZoS has already stated a few times that they will work out/"tweak" racial passives first, then if there is still enough demand they will add race changes likely to the Crown Store. This was in ESO Live (which any CSR should know about since they portray the latest important information).
3 - If you truly submitted the question with "changing race" in it, yet they responded with "regarding changing the class...", that is even just further into the pit of poor CSR.

Seriously, that CSR should be fired. That is just insanely terrible. Ok, that might be overkill, but something needs to be done if this is indeed a direct quote. That is unacceptable.
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jamesharv2005ub17_ESO

Doesnt sound like any CSR. Is this a direct quote?

HobnailedBoots

Zazaaji wrote: »

Wow that CSR is, to be direct/blunt, INCREDIBLY unknowledgefull of both the forums and the already announced things that ZoS has stated.

1 - There have already been TONS of threads on this.
2 - So many that ZoS has already stated a few times that they will work out/"tweak" racial passives first, then if there is enough demand they will add race changes. This was even in ESO Live which any CSR should know about, since they portray the latest important information.

Seriously, that CSR should be fired. That is just insanely terrible.
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I seriously hope for your sake you never work for someone with as stupid of ideas about what one should he fired for as you do.

The_Sadist

This topic has been discussed at length, granted given support directed you to make a thread sort of thing I can understand where you're coming from.

Currently they're trying to rebalance the weaker racials in order to provide a degree of appeal and balance to some of the more unloved races. That being said, I think it has been concluded that there will be a race change option via the crown store in the future.. It seems like an inevitability at this point and was discussed in ESO live.

That being said, I've re-rolled on a VR2 before, so depending on your current level it mightn't be a huge waste of time.

newtinmpls

I'd be honest and say "don't want to put in the time", rather than can't.

But I do think that if enough people ask for it, and are willing to pay for it, there will probably eventually be an option in the crown store.

Zazaaji

HobnailedBoots wrote: »

Zazaaji wrote: »

Wow that CSR is, to be direct/blunt, INCREDIBLY unknowledgefull of both the forums and the already announced things that ZoS has stated.

1 - There have already been TONS of threads on this.
2 - So many that ZoS has already stated a few times that they will work out/"tweak" racial passives first, then if there is enough demand they will add race changes. This was even in ESO Live which any CSR should know about, since they portray the latest important information.

Seriously, that CSR should be fired. That is just insanely terrible.
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I seriously hope for your sake you never work for someone with as stupid of ideas about what one should he fired for as you do.

Ok, firing might have been overkill. Still out of some of the replies from ZoS's CSR people I've read to other people on these forums, a ton of them are incredibly unknowledgfull of the game, forums, and updates. These people are hired (getting paid money) to give people outdated and incorrect information. That is unacceptable.
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The_Sadist

Zazaaji wrote: »

HobnailedBoots wrote: »

Zazaaji wrote: »

Wow that CSR is, to be direct/blunt, INCREDIBLY unknowledgefull of both the forums and the already announced things that ZoS has stated.

1 - There have already been TONS of threads on this.
2 - So many that ZoS has already stated a few times that they will work out/"tweak" racial passives first, then if there is enough demand they will add race changes. This was even in ESO Live which any CSR should know about, since they portray the latest important information.

Seriously, that CSR should be fired. That is just insanely terrible.
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I seriously hope for your sake you never work for someone with as stupid of ideas about what one should he fired for as you do.

Honestly out of some of the replies from ZoS's CSR people I've read to other people, a ton of them are incredibly unknowledgfull of the game, forums, and updates. These people are hired, and get paid money, to give people outdated and incorrect information. That is unacceptable.
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Indeed, at the very least support could have taken a minute or two to throw a link regarding upcoming racial changes and the potential racial change plan. They are aware quite a few people want the option to change races and that there are quite a few threads about this topic. Encouraging people to make more threads is a little counterproductive.

Sidenote, unknowledgfull isn't a word, not heaping on you, honest.

Junkogen

Yes. And people have been asking for a race change feature since time began. There has been plenty of outcry for this, but ZOS has been preoccupied with other game improvements and console launch.

The race change won't be coming any time soon. They've been thinking about it while working on Imperial City and Crown Store stuff.

Zazaaji

The_Sadist wrote: »

Sidenote, unknowledgfull isn't a word, not heaping on you, honest.

I see the red squiggly line under the word when I type it here, so I figured as much (that feature helps me a lot on these forums). I can't think of a replacement word that would mean the same thing in English though. The Finnish word is "oppimaton", which is NOT a bad/curse word or anything. Unfortunately Google Translate doesn't seem to translate it correctly.

BigInGlenumbra

So it takes you over a dozen hours to realize you "messed up" your race?

Come on man.

Junkogen

The_Sadist wrote: »

This topic has been discussed at length, granted given support directed you to make a thread sort of thing I can understand where you're coming from.

Currently they're trying to rebalance the weaker racials in order to provide a degree of appeal and balance to some of the more unloved races. That being said, I think it has been concluded that there will be a race change option via the crown store in the future.. It seems like an inevitability at this point and was discussed in ESO live.

That being said, I've re-rolled on a VR2 before, so depending on your current level it mightn't be a huge waste of time.

They said they would reevaluate the idea after the Imperial City launch and tweaks to Nords, Khajiit, Orcs, and Argonians.

It's far from inevitable. They've only said they're thinking about it, much like spellcrafting.

Ackwalan

Just keep beating the drum, and things like race change will hit the crown store, for good or bad.

waterfairy

Why would you work on leveling up a race that you don't want to play?
You should realize by the time you leave Coldharbour and spend the 3-4 skill points if you want to continue with that character.

I could see a face sculptor working but how would a race change work if you choose a race from a different alliance and don't have the bonus to choose unlocked?

Acrolas

Between the title saying race and the reply being about class, and the "so really go on the forum," I'm calling shenanigans.

traigusb14_ESO2

Zazaaji wrote: »

The_Sadist wrote: »

Sidenote, unknowledgfull isn't a word, not heaping on you, honest.

I see the red squiggly line under the word when I type it here, so I figured as much (that feature helps me a lot on these forums). I can't think of a replacement word that would mean the same thing in English though. The Finnish word is "oppimaton", which is NOT a bad/curse word or anything. Unfortunately Google Translate doesn't seem to translate it correctly.

unknowledgeable ... the forums don't like it but it is a real word.

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Unfortunately help and support jobs are not usually staffed by people that are well versed in the topic. They have scripts and ringbinders and FAQ stuff... and only "know" what is given to them. KNowing a lot of stuff makes them overqualified to be 1st tier support...lol

The good news is nobody NEEDS to change their race. If/when the option shows up.. great whatever.

The_Sadist

Zazaaji wrote: »

The_Sadist wrote: »

Sidenote, unknowledgfull isn't a word, not heaping on you, honest.

I see the red squiggly line under the word when I type it here, so I figured as much (that feature helps me a lot on these forums). I can't think of a replacement word that would mean the same thing in English though. The Finnish word is "oppimaton", which is NOT a bad/curse word or anything. Unfortunately Google Translate doesn't seem to translate it correctly.

There are many words which can be used to basically say 'a lack of knowledge' and unlettered is a good one (a quick translation from the word you provided resulted in unlettered). That being said, I apologise for going off topic, the word sort of struck me as odd and I just wanted to clarify.

Junkogen wrote: »

The_Sadist wrote: »

This topic has been discussed at length, granted given support directed you to make a thread sort of thing I can understand where you're coming from.

Currently they're trying to rebalance the weaker racials in order to provide a degree of appeal and balance to some of the more unloved races. That being said, I think it has been concluded that there will be a race change option via the crown store in the future.. It seems like an inevitability at this point and was discussed in ESO live.

That being said, I've re-rolled on a VR2 before, so depending on your current level it mightn't be a huge waste of time.

They said they would reevaluate the idea after the Imperial City launch and tweaks to Nords, Khajiit, Orcs, and Argonians.

It's far from inevitable. They've only said they're thinking about it, much like spellcrafting.

Is it really far from inevitable though? The game has taken quite an interesting direction with the addition of the crown store. Honestly they'd be quite silly to not capitalise on the sheer amount of people who want a race change. Now, depending on how they handle it really determines if I stick around or not.

Ah spellcrafting, just a distant dream at this point.

Vulsahdaal

After my latest issue with CS, I have just come to the conclusion unless its a tech problem, csr job is just to politely acknowledge, make a less than helpful solution, then close out your issue. I really dont expect any more from them.. I notice the OP mentions he contacted them about race changes. They reply with 'Thank you for contacting The Elder Scrolls Online: Tamriel Unlimited support team with your query regarding changing the class of your character.' That seems about right for them..
As the the original question though, no I cant say any of my race choices were a mistake (and this comes from someone with some 'different' characters like my Nord sorc lol).
Yes, I did put a lot of time into them, and thats the problem. To me, their race is very much a part of who they are and to change it would seem like they were a completely different character. Cant say I would like that idea very much..

Psychobunni

mloveday wrote: »

So my replied message from ESO about race change, Has anyone else messed up there race but cant put the time in to level again with what you want.

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Thank you for contacting The Elder Scrolls Online: Tamriel Unlimited support team with your query regarding changing the class of your character.

It is unfortunately not a service that we offer at the moment. You have here an idea. What I can suggest here is to voice this on our official forum and discuss this with fellow fans. If you gather enough support, your idea may be taken into consideration for future game improvement features. I am very sorry for this, it is in popular demand, so really go on the forum.

Was this a translated to english response? It just reads weird.

Idk, about fired but if they are going to direct people to the forums they should at least be required to read through once a day or something.

Gidorick

mloveday wrote: »

So my replied message from ESO about race change, Has anyone else messed up there race but cant put the time in to level again with what you want.

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Thank you for contacting The Elder Scrolls Online: Tamriel Unlimited support team with your query regarding changing the class of your character.

It is unfortunately not a service that we offer at the moment. You have here an idea. What I can suggest here is to voice this on our official forum and discuss this with fellow fans. If you gather enough support, your idea may be taken into consideration for future game improvement features. I am very sorry for this, it is in popular demand, so really go on the forum.

Wait... So we should go on the official forum to gather support but petitions are against the rules? What's missing here?

Junkogen

The_Sadist wrote: »

Zazaaji wrote: »

The_Sadist wrote: »

Sidenote, unknowledgfull isn't a word, not heaping on you, honest.

I see the red squiggly line under the word when I type it here, so I figured as much (that feature helps me a lot on these forums). I can't think of a replacement word that would mean the same thing in English though. The Finnish word is "oppimaton", which is NOT a bad/curse word or anything. Unfortunately Google Translate doesn't seem to translate it correctly.

There are many words which can be used to basically say 'a lack of knowledge' and unlettered is a good one (a quick translation from the word you provided resulted in unlettered). That being said, I apologise for going off topic, the word sort of struck me as odd and I just wanted to clarify.

Junkogen wrote: »

The_Sadist wrote: »

This topic has been discussed at length, granted given support directed you to make a thread sort of thing I can understand where you're coming from.

Currently they're trying to rebalance the weaker racials in order to provide a degree of appeal and balance to some of the more unloved races. That being said, I think it has been concluded that there will be a race change option via the crown store in the future.. It seems like an inevitability at this point and was discussed in ESO live.

That being said, I've re-rolled on a VR2 before, so depending on your current level it mightn't be a huge waste of time.

They said they would reevaluate the idea after the Imperial City launch and tweaks to Nords, Khajiit, Orcs, and Argonians.

It's far from inevitable. They've only said they're thinking about it, much like spellcrafting.

Is it really far from inevitable though? The game has taken quite an interesting direction with the addition of the crown store. Honestly they'd be quite silly to not capitalise on the sheer amount of people who want a race change. Now, depending on how they handle it really determines if I stick around or not.

Ah spellcrafting, just a distant dream at this point.

I would be cautious to get your hopes up on anything that isn't announced in an upcoming patch or DLC. It's like with spellcrafting. They had it showcased at E3 or Quakecon last year and it got shelved indefinitely. In ESO Live 16 they made it seem like race changing was inevitable, but in recent comments by ZOS it's now going to be simply reevaluated after the Imperial City launch. I could definitely see them getting sidetracked by Orsinium or the Dark Brotherhood, and race and character recustomization getting pushed farther and farther back. I just don't think it's coming this year if it does come.

coryevans_3b14_ESO

Don't worry, they'll just remove all racial passives eventually like every other MMORPG ends up doing because of all the whining.

Grymjack

Vote up for putting a racial change in the crown store! I would pay for that. And no, I don't want to re-roll my v16 tank just for race. And no, when I first setup the toon at launch (to reserve the name), I wasn't knowledgeable about endgame needs to consider which race was best for the role.

AngryNord

coryevans_3b14_ESO wrote: »

Don't worry, they'll just remove all racial passives eventually like every other MMORPG ends up doing because of all the whining.

If they do that they need to erase Elder Scrolls from the game's title at the same time.

Artjuh90

AngryNord wrote: »

coryevans_3b14_ESO wrote: »

Don't worry, they'll just remove all racial passives eventually like every other MMORPG ends up doing because of all the whining.

If they do that they need to erase Elder Scrolls from the game's title at the same time.

i agree

BaldusMageezack

AngryNord wrote: »

coryevans_3b14_ESO wrote: »

Don't worry, they'll just remove all racial passives eventually like every other MMORPG ends up doing because of all the whining.

If they do that they need to erase Elder Scrolls from the game's title at the same time.

It's already not an Elder scrolls game so they may as well

TheShadowScout

AngryNord wrote: »

coryevans_3b14_ESO wrote: »

Don't worry, they'll just remove all racial passives eventually like every other MMORPG ends up doing because of all the whining.

If they do that they need to erase Elder Scrolls from the game's title at the same time.

Yeah... it wouldn't be an TES game if, say, redguards were as good at magic as altmer, or bosmer as tough as nords...

One might argue about how much the racial passives should impact gameplay, but removing them (or worse - letting people cherry-pick their passives regardless of race) would certainly not gain any approval from me - quite the opposite.

BaldusMageezack

TheShadowScout wrote: »

AngryNord wrote: »

coryevans_3b14_ESO wrote: »

Don't worry, they'll just remove all racial passives eventually like every other MMORPG ends up doing because of all the whining.

If they do that they need to erase Elder Scrolls from the game's title at the same time.

Yeah... it wouldn't be an TES game if, say, redguards were as good at magic as altmer, or bosmer as tough as nords...

One might argue about how much the racial passives should impact gameplay, but removing them (or worse - letting people cherry-pick their passives regardless of race) would certainly not gain any approval from me - quite the opposite.

Kind of like how Shalidor is clearly a nord yet head of the mage's guild?

Kronuxx

Grymjack wrote: »

Vote up for putting a racial change in the crown store! I would pay for that. And no, I don't want to re-roll my v16 tank just for race. And no, when I first setup the toon at launch (to reserve the name), I wasn't knowledgeable about endgame needs to consider which race was best for the role.

Can we seriously stop with the necro bumps. Also, race change is a horrible idea and promotes towards the idea of FOTM. You have seven other slots to play any race you want. If you reach veteran level and you finally decide that you want to change race then that race you were currently playing wasn't such a bad idea in the first place, now was it? Especially, if it took you that long to decide. In addition, if it takes you that long to decide to do a race change at VR16, then it likely means that you want a race change because of FOTM (especially based on your above post about race and endgame role). Let me guess, what if the new FOTM was Nord DK because people discovered how viable they were in PvP after some patch changes by ZOS. Now what? You want to be a Nord DK after switching from, just say for example Dunmer DK which you had switched from High Elf, only because that's what everyone else figured is viable? And what even determines what race is best at endgame? What the majority of players are doing at endgame? Sounds more like sheep following sheep. Be unique, create your own build, and you'll find that you will do well. You do realize that this game is in an ever changing state right? What is and will be once considered viable endgame now, will be different in the future.

Lately this sort of demand and complaining of the forums reminds me of a very applicable quote, one which you ZOS should keep in mind when addressing all these demands from posters.

"He that finds discontentment in one place is not likely to find happiness in another."