enthusiasm to play... no more

Darkeus

the fact that i dont see any road ahead, some future plans, work in progress about new patch zones, skills, something... kills all my enthusiasm, desire to play and spend my time in game, i am dissapointed how things turn out... did you imagine this when you started to play this game?

Sagatho

meaby you just grow up and don like videogames anymore XD

just joking.

my hype is the console version right now.

Heromofo

Lol considering when i started playing they told us to expect new content every 4-6 weeks id say no.

But hold in there bud because the console is not to far off then content should flow.

SirEwan

This exactly.

Not even a preview of what's to come.
ZoS are too focused on Console release, which I don't blame them for, after all they are a business and Console Release will be a big thing for them. But we really need to see what's in store for ESO in the near future or more and more people will become disinterested just like this

Sallington

SirEwan wrote: »

This exactly.

Not even a preview of what's to come.
ZoS are too focused on Console release, which I don't blame them for, after all they are a business and Console Release will be a big thing for them. But we really need to see what's in store for ESO in the near future or more and more people will become disinterested just like this

The new limited release mount, but that's about it.

Tavore1138

It is a struggle... it used to be PvP filled the gap because it was different every day but they hroke it so hard in 2.0 it is just not fun any more.

EgoRush

Yup, starting to feel like I'm playing (and paying for) a broken game. Will the lag on servers ever be addressed?

Islyn

I've been actually playing something else...I just am personally not having fun doing same thing over and over. Bummer too because I was really so excited at the idea of 'Never ending Tamriel.'

Lauradana

Anyone paying a sub right now deserves what he or she gets, let us face it alot of the players are still here while waiting for something new to show up i.e. EQ Next or the like, me and the family are just killing our online time here till something else, no real heart left here for us and we were all super hardcore fans but now not one cent going this way anymore. After stale the stink sets in and this game is beginning to stink of boredoom, there is only so many times that you can do the same quests again and again.

Islyn

@Lauradana exactly the same here...

vovus69

Yep, it is kinda slow now. And it will be like that for prolonged time, at least until Fall 2015. I am thinking to get back to Rift again At least it has much more content...

retyler3_ESO

Darkeus wrote: »

the fact that i dont see any road ahead, some future plans, work in progress about new patch zones, skills, something... kills all my enthusiasm, desire to play and spend my time in game, i am dissapointed how things turn out... did you imagine this when you started to play this game?

Patience; maybe take a break for a month or two and then check back. I understand your frustration, but this ancient old technique is a valuable skill to practice.

Daemons_Bane

If patience worked for people, we would not have all these threads..

kevlarto_ESO

I understand OP, putting a whole section of your player base on hold bad bad idea in my book, since they were so quick to shelve us, makes me wonder if there even is a future for the pc version. But with all that I am sticking around to see what happens because at the moment there is not another online game worth playing imho, I still find fun everyday here in ESO, I just hope when the consoles get released it does not take forever to get things going again.

Gidorick

Heromofo wrote: »

Lol considering when i started playing they told us to expect new content every 4-6 weeks id say no.

But hold in there bud because the console is not to far off then content should flow.

Oh. You didn't hear. That was a typo.... They meant 4-6 months. Damn auto correct.

Daemons_Bane

All these doomsayers.. How about just taking a break, let the console stuff get released, then see what happens? If you get this excited, just because you're not the firstborn anymore, then maybe you're too impatient for mmos

Phinix1

The whole console trip was badly planned and has made the company look terrible.

They should have had their ducks in a row for a simultaneous launch. Now they will incur the wrath of PC customers who feel like they were used for a paid beta and then abandoned for a console money grab. Meanwhile the lingering issues of lag in PVP and persistence of bugs are blown out of proportion out of frustration fueled by this perception, which only serves to overshadow the many good aspects of the game.

It becomes a self-fulfilling cycle of self-depreciating diminishing returns, where ZOS always looks like they are lagging just one step beyond the standard, always getting it right "down the road" after the fact.

Mind you this is just the PERCEPTION. But in this business, perception is everything.

I still love the game, and I really want to keep my ESO Plus membership going, because I WANT to have faith they will eventually add new content and improve on these lingering issues, but honestly, I write addons more than I play anymore and without something new and engaging to occupy my in-game time I am afraid that paying for the privilege of creating content for the game for free is a little more than I can afford right now. Not that I don't enjoy it enough to do it regardless.

I sort of feel bad for ZOS at this point, but it really is their own fault. They planned things badly. Console launch should never have been put off as it was. Simultaneous release or PC-only.

Sadly the PC profits were apparently not enough for the investors so now the money is making demands of the artistic team which radically compromise the integrity of the games image, thus diminishing it's "intellectual property value."

Sort of like shooting one's self in the proverbial foot, or cutting off one's nose since they can't see much past it anyway.

SHADOW2KK

Daemons_Bane wrote: »

All these doomsayers.. How about just taking a break, let the console stuff get released, then see what happens? If you get this excited, just because you're not the firstborn anymore, then maybe you're too impatient for mmos

Or maybe, just maybe some have woken up.

I been here since beta, and so have many others, and have walked this road together, and seen Zeni do a lot of good things granted, but also a lot of lies and stonewalling and minimal communication.

There will be nothing good till console release, that is their big ace card, afterwards then stuff should pick up, and we can finally see content and stuff, but till then, expect more next to useless patches and more reskinned useless items on Crown Store, while more and more people wake up and stop paying sub or leave.

The way they are treating their customer base is insane to me, all this oh we are working on it blah blah blah, and nothing happens for ages, in terms of latency, or other issues.

They only care about console release and keeping us at arms length till then while trying to mollify the more easily impressionable ones amongst us with empty promises and stuff on Crown Store.

Better game stability and content that was promised, what, every 4/6 months or something

LOL, JUSTL LOL

The game is amazing on so many levels, and been a regular player since day 1, got my gripes with it, but I keep coming back.

But I do have other games that I play, like the Total War games, FPS games, ect, and the more that the community is ignored about glaring problems in the game that was supposed to be fixed ages ago, the more people will walk, and one day so will I.

So zeni can lock or delete threads all they want, a good number of players do not even post on the forums, yet all are beset by the same issues, i.e lag on their , um what was it?ea
Lag free megaserver? and the 200 vs 200 onscreen at same time, no offence Zeni, even Dice/EA cannot manage that with way better tech and engine on the Battlefield games and on dedi servers to lessen load.

ESO is amazing on so many levels and Zeni has done an incredible job on so many levels, I just wish instead of trying to mollify us with empty words and rubbish on Crown Store, that they would actually fix the game.

We can only hope.

Heromofo

Gidorick wrote: »

Heromofo wrote: »

Lol considering when i started playing they told us to expect new content every 4-6 weeks id say no.

But hold in there bud because the console is not to far off then content should flow.

Oh. You didn't hear. That was a typo.... They meant 4-6 months. Damn auto correct.

Hahaha lol they should fire who ever was on the teleprompter for Matt Frior that night then.
@Gidorick

Daemons_Bane

As so many others, I have been here since the beginning too.. And I know that it can be a pain to have to wait.. I just don't see the reason for crying like little ones without candy.. The game designers/staff/employees is doing something else right now, we can agree on that.. We can also agree on that bitching about that will not change it.. So, to put it bluntly and with no offense meant , get into the big boy pants and relax.. They will be back with us when they are done releasing console.. Could it have been done better/smoother? Probably, but since I don't know their job I just sit down nice and wait.. Threats about cancelling your subs won't affect it.. Most of us play more than this one game, so if ESO really bugs you that much, maybe just take a pause and play that other game

Sallington

Daemons_Bane wrote: »

As so many others, I have been here since the beginning too.. And I know that it can be a pain to have to wait.. I just don't see the reason for crying like little ones without candy.. The game designers/staff/employees is doing something else right now, we can agree on that.. We can also agree on that bitching about that will not change it.. So, to put it bluntly and with no offense meant , get into the big boy pants and relax.. They will be back with us when they are done releasing console.. Could it have been done better/smoother? Probably, but since I don't know their job I just sit down nice and wait.. Threats about cancelling your subs won't affect it.. Most of us play more than this one game, so if ESO really bugs you that much, maybe just take a pause and play that other game

For a lot of us, especially the PvPers, it's not about "waiting" for new content. It's about having the same bugs and lag and performance issues since launch. In fact, a lot of it has gotten worse somehow.

I'd come back to the game if they added 0 content, but fix the lag issues in Cyrodil. That's not their focus though, and it won't be for a long time. Consoles and the cash shop, that's what it's all about right now. That's why a lot of us are angry.

KanedaSyndrome

They are simply in this business for the wrong reason (or right one, depending on how you look at it). They made the game to earn money. In my oppinion almost all games will suffer from having the "we make this to earn money"-approach. They need to do it out of passion, and then be happy that they earn money as well, but passion needs to be the primary driving force when doing a project like this.

Daemons_Bane

@Sallington I can easily relate to what you are trying to say, since I've been in games that had the same bugs for about 3 years.. But as with all other games, making complain threads is just not gonna solve it.. I know that I might end up sounding like too much of a fanboy, but I just don't see the point in this The staff knows that there are problems that need to be solved, and that they need to adress it asap.. But I simply refuse to believe that a giant mob screaming at the door is gonna help

Phinix1

KanedaSyndrome wrote: »

They are simply in this business for the wrong reason (or right one, depending on how you look at it). They made the game to earn money. In my oppinion almost all games will suffer from having the "we make this to earn money"-approach. They need to do it out of passion, and then be happy that they earn money as well, but passion needs to be the primary driving force when doing a project like this.

Most are "artistic atheists" and refuse to take that gamble. It's like Monsters Inc. Deriving energy through scream is just what they know. Yet those that do this out of passion reap far greater rewards when they are successful.

I do believe that ZOS has passion. I just think they have damaged their public image through bad planning of an out-of-sync console/PC release schedule and by listening too much to panicky investors who's sole brain function is counting shiny.

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Sallington

Daemons_Bane wrote: »

@Sallington I can easily relate to what you are trying to say, since I've been in games that had the same bugs for about 3 years.. But as with all other games, making complain threads is just not gonna solve it.. I know that I might end up sounding like too much of a fanboy, but I just don't see the point in this The staff knows that there are problems that need to be solved, and that they need to adress it asap.. But I simply refuse to believe that a giant mob screaming at the door is gonna help

I kind of like them, since it gives me an update on the current status of the game. If I went by the website, I'd resub immediately because apparently we can fight in Cyrodil with 100's of people on screen at once!!!!! lol

When I check the forums and see that people are still having the same problems that caused me to leave, it lets me know that there's no reason for me to return yet.

Daemons_Bane

Don't get me wrong.. A thread where people can voice their fears/concerns/issues/hopes and so on is a positive thing but 5-10 of them being made each day is quite the opposite

Xendyn

Daemons_Bane wrote: »

Don't get me wrong.. A thread where people can voice their fears/concerns/issues/hopes and so on is a positive thing but 5-10 of them being made each day is quite the opposite

But..everyone must have their OWN complaint thread...

Daemons_Bane

@Xendyn Everyone having their own thread is counter productive.. The staff don't want to/ don't have time to read a million posts.. Plus imagine people that considers buying the game, who decides to take a look at the forums first.. They'll drown in whine threads and maybe just think that this game is better avoided.. We don't need that We need more souls for Hircine

technohic

I'm with the OP. Leading up to 1.6 there was all the excitement of changes to come and the champion system and communication on PvP from Brain Wheeler and it seemed so exciting. 1.6 drops then the 2.0 version of it becoming TU and people start to see how things are working, not working and are like "Woah woah woah. Somethings not right with all of these things, and we're also getting bored with content." And ZOS is all like "Well, too late. We are now focusing on console. See you in 6 months."

Xendyn

Daemons_Bane wrote: »

@Xendyn Everyone having their own thread is counter productive.. The staff don't want to/ don't have time to read a million posts.. Plus imagine people that considers buying the game, who decides to take a look at the forums first.. They'll drown in whine threads and maybe just think that this game is better avoided.. We don't need that We need more souls for Hircine

yeh ummm...that post was sarcastic

Sallington

technohic wrote: »

I'm with the OP. Leading up to 1.6 there was all the excitement of changes to come and the champion system and communication on PvP from Brain Wheeler and it seemed so exciting. 1.6 drops then the 2.0 version of it becoming TU and people start to see how things are working, not working and are like "Woah woah woah. Somethings not right with all of these things, and we're also getting bored with content." And ZOS is all like "Well, too late. We are now focusing on console. See you in 6 months."

It sure seems like all ZOS is good at anymore is creating hype-trains, and then under-delivering. They've been hanging spellcrafting, Imperial City, removal of VR ranks, PvP addition to Justice, Wrothgar, etc. over our heads for how many months now? With absolutely nothing to show for it but a gigantic grind and more bugs/lag.