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What the hell is going on?

Maddhawk
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I got the game a week ago, and things have been moving along nicely, though I got like a trillion questions, and all of a sudden 3 crashes in an hour? I expect this sort of thing with a game in beta, not one what has been out for a year.
  • BuggeX
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    Welcome to The Elder Scrolls Online.

    Wath PC you have?
    Do you have Addons installed?
    Some of them can caus some crahes.
    Did you got the Crash in Cyrodiil?
    #makemagickadkgreataigan
    #givemeaexecute
    #ineedheal
    #betterhotfixgrindspots
  • Weberda
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    Maddhawk wrote: »
    I got the game a week ago, and things have been moving along nicely, though I got like a trillion questions, and all of a sudden 3 crashes in an hour? I expect this sort of thing with a game in beta, not one what has been out for a year.

    Do a forum search for the word "beta". You'll be amazed at how many people feel just like you.

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  • Heromofo
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    Maddhawk wrote: »
    I got the game a week ago, and things have been moving along nicely, though I got like a trillion questions, and all of a sudden 3 crashes in an hour? I expect this sort of thing with a game in beta, not one what has been out for a year.

    O did no one tell you uuum you are testing the game if you want the real version you have to join the rest of us heading to consoles in june. :D
    Edited by Heromofo on May 7, 2015 5:00PM
  • vovus69
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    The reason is usually *** computer or bunch of crappy addons installed.
    "If I'll need your opinion, I'll give one to you" - Rivenspire
  • nastuug
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    Heromofo wrote: »
    Maddhawk wrote: »
    I got the game a week ago, and things have been moving along nicely, though I got like a trillion questions, and all of a sudden 3 crashes in an hour? I expect this sort of thing with a game in beta, not one what has been out for a year.

    O did no one tell you uuum you are testing the game if you want the real version you have to join the rest of us heading to consoles in june. :D

    Eww, dirty consoles. ;)

    Seriously though OP, do some hunting through the forum. Not a fun issue for sure. :(
    Sallington wrote: »
    Anything useful that players are wanting added into the game all fall under the category of "Yer ruinin my 'mersion!"
  • Maddhawk
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    1) I know it ain't my PC. A week straight with no issues, it is the game.
    2) Just one addon, the minimap, by Fyrakin v2.23
    3) Screw consoles, I still own a PS2 for FFX but I will NEVER buy one again. PC gaming is the only gaming that matters. PC gaming for life.

    Ya, I seen some other threads about people having random crashes, but now that I have had the experience, may as well make my own thread to just /poke Bethesda and help em stay motivated to getting the last bugs ironed out.

    P.S. Before anyone goes and says this game is made by Zeni Online, I do not care what alternative name they wish to go by, Bethesda is the only trade name that is worth anything. It is the name people know, respect, and expect quality products from.

    Edit: 4) Do not have a router, direct connection to the modem and I know that isn't the issue.
    Edited by Maddhawk on May 7, 2015 5:32PM
  • Heromofo
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    nastuug wrote: »
    Heromofo wrote: »
    Maddhawk wrote: »
    I got the game a week ago, and things have been moving along nicely, though I got like a trillion questions, and all of a sudden 3 crashes in an hour? I expect this sort of thing with a game in beta, not one what has been out for a year.

    O did no one tell you uuum you are testing the game if you want the real version you have to join the rest of us heading to consoles in june. :D

    Eww, dirty consoles. ;)

    Seriously though OP, do some hunting through the forum. Not a fun issue for sure. :(

    Whaaaaaat nas your not joining i figured you would come to consoles if you do ps4 side lol.
  • Bouvin
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    nastuug wrote: »
    Heromofo wrote: »
    nastuug wrote: »
    Heromofo wrote: »
    Maddhawk wrote: »
    I got the game a week ago, and things have been moving along nicely, though I got like a trillion questions, and all of a sudden 3 crashes in an hour? I expect this sort of thing with a game in beta, not one what has been out for a year.

    O did no one tell you uuum you are testing the game if you want the real version you have to join the rest of us heading to consoles in june. :D

    Eww, dirty consoles. ;)

    Seriously though OP, do some hunting through the forum. Not a fun issue for sure. :(

    Whaaaaaat nas your not joining i figured you would come to consoles if you do ps4 side lol.

    Hell no, son. PS4 has hardware designed what...5+ years ago. No contest against the current PC I built. Why on Earth would I move from the PC (highly customizable) to the console (highly restrictive)?

    I still love ya though. :)

    Well to answer that...

    ZoS only has to design the game to 1 hardware spec for PS4.

    They also don't have to make updates when drivers change for a million different cards.

    So while your computer may have better hardware, they can optimize the game for PS4, thus reducing crashes and such.

    I'll continue to game on PC, but getting a game to support all different PC makes/models/hardware and optimize it to that hardware is a much harder task then doing it for a single unit.. or two units if you count PS4 and XBox.
  • Sylvyr
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    BuggeX wrote: »
    Welcome to The Elder Scrolls Online Tamriel Unlimited (bugs)

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  • nastuug
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    Bouvin wrote: »
    nastuug wrote: »
    Heromofo wrote: »
    nastuug wrote: »
    Heromofo wrote: »
    Maddhawk wrote: »
    I got the game a week ago, and things have been moving along nicely, though I got like a trillion questions, and all of a sudden 3 crashes in an hour? I expect this sort of thing with a game in beta, not one what has been out for a year.

    O did no one tell you uuum you are testing the game if you want the real version you have to join the rest of us heading to consoles in june. :D

    Eww, dirty consoles. ;)

    Seriously though OP, do some hunting through the forum. Not a fun issue for sure. :(

    Whaaaaaat nas your not joining i figured you would come to consoles if you do ps4 side lol.

    Hell no, son. PS4 has hardware designed what...5+ years ago. No contest against the current PC I built. Why on Earth would I move from the PC (highly customizable) to the console (highly restrictive)?

    I still love ya though. :)

    Well to answer that...

    ZoS only has to design the game to 1 hardware spec for PS4.

    They also don't have to make updates when drivers change for a million different cards.

    So while your computer may have better hardware, they can optimize the game for PS4, thus reducing crashes and such.

    I'll continue to game on PC, but getting a game to support all different PC makes/models/hardware and optimize it to that hardware is a much harder task then doing it for a single unit.. or two units if you count PS4 and XBox.

    Of course they can optimize it for the PS4. With heavy restrictions and limitations from the slow gpu/cpu/hdd.
    Sallington wrote: »
    Anything useful that players are wanting added into the game all fall under the category of "Yer ruinin my 'mersion!"
  • vovus69
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    In addition to that you have to pay extra for Gold Live or PS+... I will stay on my PC :)
    "If I'll need your opinion, I'll give one to you" - Rivenspire
  • Heromofo
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    nastuug wrote: »
    Heromofo wrote: »
    nastuug wrote: »
    Heromofo wrote: »
    Maddhawk wrote: »
    I got the game a week ago, and things have been moving along nicely, though I got like a trillion questions, and all of a sudden 3 crashes in an hour? I expect this sort of thing with a game in beta, not one what has been out for a year.

    O did no one tell you uuum you are testing the game if you want the real version you have to join the rest of us heading to consoles in june. :D

    Eww, dirty consoles. ;)

    Seriously though OP, do some hunting through the forum. Not a fun issue for sure. :(

    Whaaaaaat nas your not joining i figured you would come to consoles if you do ps4 side lol.

    Hell no, son. PS4 has hardware designed what...5+ years ago. No contest against the current PC I built. Why on Earth would I move from the PC (highly customizable) to the console (highly restrictive)?

    I still love ya though. :)

    Aaah thanks bud we will always have that summer fling i guess.

    I still have that picture i took
    JxgymSA.jpg


  • KhajitFurTrader
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    Maddhawk wrote: »
    P.S. Before anyone goes and says this game is made by Zeni Online, I do not care what alternative name they wish to go by, Bethesda is the only trade name that is worth anything. It is the name people know, respect, and expect quality products from.

    For the record, the game is made by ZeniMax Online Studios, a subsidiary of ZeniMax Media, Inc., which also owns Bethesda Game Studios (developer of The Elder Scrolls games) and Bethesda Softworks (a publisher). Please at least try to not confuse them deliberately.

    Also for the record, there hasn't been a single TES game game yet which hasn't had serious issues with bugs after release. Over the years, I've come to expect "can't really be used well until after the first round of patches has landed" products from Bethesda Game Studios, but I've gotten used to this and love their games regardless, playing them for far longer than is good for me.

    As for the crashes, it would be most helpful to report them to ZOS while noting under which circumstances they occurred, i.e. in which location(s), during what activities, etc. You could use the in-game /bug command (no feedback), or the Tech Support Form (this will get a response). Only then will there be a chance for them getting fixed.
  • Gidorick
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    Maddhawk wrote: »
    still own a PS2 for FFX but I will NEVER buy one again. PC gaming is the only gaming that matters. PC gaming for life.

    Dude. You need to try ffXII. Good stuff.
    What ESO really needs is an Auction Horse.
    That's right... Horse.
    Click HERE to discuss.

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  • Riffler
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    Weberda wrote: »
    Maddhawk wrote: »
    I got the game a week ago, and things have been moving along nicely, though I got like a trillion questions, and all of a sudden 3 crashes in an hour? I expect this sort of thing with a game in beta, not one what has been out for a year.

    Do a forum search for the word "beta". You'll be amazed at how many people feel just like you.

    If I was playing a beta I'd expect to see bugs and issues - but they'd be trying to fix them.
  • Fleshreaper
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    Is this your first ever MMO? Every patch has bugs that have to be patched. It's the same with every MMO. If this bothers you so much, you may want to stick to single player games.
  • Davadin
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    Maddhawk wrote: »
    1) I know it ain't my PC. A week straight with no issues, it is the game.
    2) Just one addon, the minimap, by Fyrakin v2.23
    3) Screw consoles, I still own a PS2 for FFX but I will NEVER buy one again. PC gaming is the only gaming that matters. PC gaming for life.

    Ya, I seen some other threads about people having random crashes, but now that I have had the experience, may as well make my own thread to just /poke Bethesda and help em stay motivated to getting the last bugs ironed out.

    P.S. Before anyone goes and says this game is made by Zeni Online, I do not care what alternative name they wish to go by, Bethesda is the only trade name that is worth anything. It is the name people know, respect, and expect quality products from.

    Edit: 4) Do not have a router, direct connection to the modem and I know that isn't the issue.

    update ur driver lately? windows update kicked in overnight? summer is here and ur graphic card overheat?

    could still be an issue with your system. this past monday there's no update to ESO.

    try dropping quality to LOW with low resolution, and see if it makes any difference. if yes, then it's your PC.
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  • granty2008cyb16_ESO
    Davadin wrote: »
    Maddhawk wrote: »
    1) I know it ain't my PC. A week straight with no issues, it is the game.
    2) Just one addon, the minimap, by Fyrakin v2.23
    3) Screw consoles, I still own a PS2 for FFX but I will NEVER buy one again. PC gaming is the only gaming that matters. PC gaming for life.

    Ya, I seen some other threads about people having random crashes, but now that I have had the experience, may as well make my own thread to just /poke Bethesda and help em stay motivated to getting the last bugs ironed out.

    P.S. Before anyone goes and says this game is made by Zeni Online, I do not care what alternative name they wish to go by, Bethesda is the only trade name that is worth anything. It is the name people know, respect, and expect quality products from.

    Edit: 4) Do not have a router, direct connection to the modem and I know that isn't the issue.

    update ur driver lately? windows update kicked in overnight? summer is here and ur graphic card overheat?

    could still be an issue with your system. this past monday there's no update to ESO.

    try dropping quality to LOW with low resolution, and see if it makes any difference. if yes, then it's your PC.

    lol i get loading screens all the time and this is what people come up with

    my pc is a custom liquid cooled 8 core cpu, north bridge, ram 28gig, south bridge what doesn't go over 38c even if its in eyefinity view under max load, with a sapphire r9 290x graphics card with 3 gig of ram but yes its always down to the computer isn't it.

    could be the internet dropping out though.
    Meh!
  • Rair.Kitani
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    I likely believe its more a general issue. I also encounterd severe problems and other users are reporting they're also.
    http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/169769/the-elder-scrolls-has-quit-unexpectedly-need-help-please
    I'm trying to get CS on the phone cause i really want to know "What the hell is going on?"
  • c.p.garrett1993_ESO
    nastuug wrote: »
    Bouvin wrote: »
    nastuug wrote: »
    Heromofo wrote: »
    nastuug wrote: »
    Heromofo wrote: »
    Maddhawk wrote: »
    I got the game a week ago, and things have been moving along nicely, though I got like a trillion questions, and all of a sudden 3 crashes in an hour? I expect this sort of thing with a game in beta, not one what has been out for a year.

    O did no one tell you uuum you are testing the game if you want the real version you have to join the rest of us heading to consoles in june. :D

    Eww, dirty consoles. ;)

    Seriously though OP, do some hunting through the forum. Not a fun issue for sure. :(

    Whaaaaaat nas your not joining i figured you would come to consoles if you do ps4 side lol.

    Hell no, son. PS4 has hardware designed what...5+ years ago. No contest against the current PC I built. Why on Earth would I move from the PC (highly customizable) to the console (highly restrictive)?

    I still love ya though. :)

    Well to answer that...

    ZoS only has to design the game to 1 hardware spec for PS4.

    They also don't have to make updates when drivers change for a million different cards.

    So while your computer may have better hardware, they can optimize the game for PS4, thus reducing crashes and such.

    I'll continue to game on PC, but getting a game to support all different PC makes/models/hardware and optimize it to that hardware is a much harder task then doing it for a single unit.. or two units if you count PS4 and XBox.

    Of course they can optimize it for the PS4. With heavy restrictions and limitations from the slow gpu/cpu/hdd.

    LOL at the people who honestly think this game is that much of a graphical achievement.
    If my PC, which is out-of-the-box from Walmart, can run this on Med-High a PS4 should have zero problem doing at least the same, and probably more.
  • nastuug
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    Heromofo wrote: »
    nastuug wrote: »
    Heromofo wrote: »
    nastuug wrote: »
    Heromofo wrote: »
    Maddhawk wrote: »
    I got the game a week ago, and things have been moving along nicely, though I got like a trillion questions, and all of a sudden 3 crashes in an hour? I expect this sort of thing with a game in beta, not one what has been out for a year.

    O did no one tell you uuum you are testing the game if you want the real version you have to join the rest of us heading to consoles in june. :D

    Eww, dirty consoles. ;)

    Seriously though OP, do some hunting through the forum. Not a fun issue for sure. :(

    Whaaaaaat nas your not joining i figured you would come to consoles if you do ps4 side lol.

    Hell no, son. PS4 has hardware designed what...5+ years ago. No contest against the current PC I built. Why on Earth would I move from the PC (highly customizable) to the console (highly restrictive)?

    I still love ya though. :)

    Aaah thanks bud we will always have that summer fling i guess.

    I still have that picture i took
    JxgymSA.jpg


    @Heromofo I still have mine too! Man, you were lookin' good that day.

    people-of-walmart-go-to-the-beach-the-guys-an-L-rREPcw.jpeg
    Edited by nastuug on May 7, 2015 8:08PM
    Sallington wrote: »
    Anything useful that players are wanting added into the game all fall under the category of "Yer ruinin my 'mersion!"
  • Cazic
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    Hey and welcome to ESO.

    When your game crashes, do you get a bug report from the ESO client that you're able to submit, or not?

    Are you crashing in any particular situation, or just randomly?

    What are your PC specs and operating system?

    I wouldn't be so quick to assume the crashes are all the game's fault. Some people do experience crashes, and some don't. My ESO client has crashed no more than 10-15 times in the past 12+ months of play, even since beta. It's such a rare occurrence that I don't consider "crashing" to be an issue common to this game at all. So, maybe there's some other reason it is happening so often.

    If you have any other questions about the game in general feel free to ask.
  • Naivefanboi
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    Is this your first ever MMO? Every patch has bugs that have to be patched. It's the same with every MMO. If this bothers you so much, you may want to stick to single player games.

    Lol no!its not, blizz is horrible about alot of stuff, but they actually handle stability and perfomance issues lol.
    Every mmo huh? Ok bud lol
  • Siliconhobbit_ESO
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    Is your system running an NVIDIA graphics card? If so, do you ALSO have GeForce Experience running?

    If so on both accounts, shut OFF GeForce Experience while playing ESO. Not just right clicking the icon and hitting 'exit'. Go INTO your task manager and kill the process.

    You'll find your ESO experience much improved.
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  • Rair.Kitani
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    Is your system running an NVIDIA graphics card? If so, do you ALSO have GeForce Experience running?

    If so on both accounts, shut OFF GeForce Experience while playing ESO. Not just right clicking the icon and hitting 'exit'. Go INTO your task manager and kill the process.

    You'll find your ESO experience much improved.

    Didn't help me, still crashed after less than a minute online...
    Worth the try, thanks anyway
  • dietlime
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    Is your system running an NVIDIA graphics card? If so, do you ALSO have GeForce Experience running?

    If so on both accounts, shut OFF GeForce Experience while playing ESO. Not just right clicking the icon and hitting 'exit'. Go INTO your task manager and kill the process.

    You'll find your ESO experience much improved.

    Didn't help me, still crashed after less than a minute online...
    Worth the try, thanks anyway

    This game was designed to work in windowed fullscreen mode, no doubt to suit it's casual style and frequent web browsing on monitor #2. It is more stable in windowed fullscreen.

    It does consistently crash when competing for my graphics card. Specifically streaming video players cause occasional, reproducible crashes due to some unknown conflict.

    Additionally, I find shadowplay suspect in ESO's case, though I have used it with success the game seems more crash prone while doing so. This could be related to my computer's "DVR" drive and file output configuration.

    I have found multitasking causing crashes is common to many DirectX applications.

    It is very likely something is running on your computer you aren't aware of, or some application is otherwise doing work with the hard drive causing ESO to crash.

    Post your crash report, and check the status of your Task Manager. If you watch it on your desktop with no other applications open, it should ideally sit at 0% with only small (1-3%), regular ticks in activity.

    While you're there, launch the game and check out your RAM. While most games in the past (and many more to come) can share a 4GB space with windows just fine; ESO is one of the first games on the market I strongly recommend 8GB as an actual minimum for - not just to fit in larger textures. My client reports 3.7/8.0 used. While you can run many games at or near capacity, many others will simply crash if they don't have enough overhead to prevent competition.

    Look at your recent downloads, browsing history, and recycle bin. You or someone you know may have installed the good old silent but deadly.

    Because gaming is so demanding, gaming PC's require some upkeep you could normally overlook. A basic understanding of how it works and what can potentially go wrong can help you more than any developer.


    Edited by dietlime on May 7, 2015 9:01PM
  • Xendyn
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    ok, just to go back to basics, have you tried Repairing the game? Could be some file or other got corrupted in there.
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