No difference between gold and purple jewerly enchants

Gargragrond

I replaced my purple feat cost reduction enchants with gold ones. Granted, I didn't expect too much difference due to way the cost reduction is calculated, but it seems that there's no difference at all. Ability that costs 2682 stamina with 3-purple (186 cost reduction enchants) costs exactly the same with 3 gold (200 cost reduction enchants) on the same jewelry. This is the tooltip value, but it does correspond the lost stamina when I actually use this ability so it's not purely an UI issue. That's 3 kutas I don't get back

Suntzu1414

this was a change i noticed back 2.0.5.
(prior to 2.0.5 the cost reduction was tiered)

They did the same with Magica.
I've written 2 letters to ZOS regarding this bug, with NO REPLY.


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Arcanasx

If you haven't realized already, enchanting is a low priority for ZOS, especially when it comes to balance. Enchanting by far is the weakest crafting skill, and ironically the hardest one to level as well. For example, compare what you get for using gold enchants for your armor, to that of purple food (and consider the cost and ease of getting the resources as well). There isn't even a sound effect for applying the enchants to an item. Also add to the fact that the magnitude of enchants don't scale with anything at all (particularly for weapons) other than the level of the potency and quality of the aspect. This leads to amazing levels of dps in the 100's for purple quality, VR 10-14 enchants for weapons.

Athas24

Enchanting has turned out to be a rather large disappointment in this game compared to other TES games. I took it as my first skill on my main when the game launched with high hopes. Boo.

Emma_Overload

This the FOURTH thread I've seen that mentioned this bug with no reply from ZoS.

What's going on?

Morimizo

Arcanasx wrote: »

If you haven't realized already, enchanting is a low priority for ZOS. There isn't even a sound effect for applying the enchants to an item.

I always double and triple check to make sure the item has in fact been enchanted.

They had to cut corners somewhere; the budget for the game ran over, and something had to go. Nixing the Enchantment sound: save $7.50. Bean-counter who came up with this idea's subsequent salary raise amount: $10k. Ah, efficiency.

Valymer

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Ourorboros

Emma_Eunjung wrote: »

This the FOURTH thread I've seen that mentioned this bug with no reply from ZoS.

What's going on?

There have been other threads, but ZO$ did respond to at least one of them. Appears there are several enchanting bugs. In one, there is no difference in value from glyphs of the next highest quality. In another, the glyphs give 0 value improvement.
If you spot one, do a /bug. If you're buying glyphs to use, not decon, inspect CLOSELY before you buy. Finally, when you enchant, you can compare the before and after values if you mouse over the items at the bottom of the dialog box where the big arrow is located. I would cancel the enchant if the new value does not show an improvement, especially in the case of epic or legendary gllyphs.

ZOS_JessicaFolsom

Sit tight--working on getting some info on this.

Alcast

Gargragrond wrote: »

I replaced my purple feat cost reduction enchants with gold ones. Granted, I didn't expect too much difference due to way the cost reduction is calculated, but it seems that there's no difference at all. Ability that costs 2682 stamina with 3-purple (186 cost reduction enchants) costs exactly the same with 3 gold (200 cost reduction enchants) on the same jewelry. This is the tooltip value, but it does correspond the lost stamina when I actually use this ability so it's not purely an UI issue. That's 3 kutas I don't get back

I think you meant to say no difference between Gold and WHITE quality glyph on jewelry

Attorneyatlawl

Can we get a quick look at a related enchantment type issue as well ?

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/157925/

ZOS_JessicaFolsom

Attorneyatlawl wrote: »

Can we get a quick look at a related enchantment type issue as well ?

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/157925/

Hmm...that one is much trickier as it involves something that is no longer in the game. What Support told you may be correct, but we'll double check.

Attorneyatlawl

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

Attorneyatlawl wrote: »

Can we get a quick look at a related enchantment type issue as well ?

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/157925/

Hmm...that one is much trickier as it involves something that is no longer in the game. What Support told you may be correct, but we'll double check.

Thanks... and yeah, my bet would be on that, but it would be great to have an answer. Given it's not an issue that affects any real number of players, while I'd be thrilled to see a patch fixing it, I wouldn't really disagree with someone deciding it wasn't worth the dev time, either .

ZOS_JessicaFolsom

We've reproduced and figured out the issue, thanks all. Next step is working on a fix.

Lettigall

@ZOS_JessicaFolsom

Could you pass along that Reduce stamina cost enchantment is broken to hell!? Gold Monumental glyph actually gives only 131 stamina reduction when it should give 200. Even white enchantment have higher value in tooltip(156)!

I'm not even getting value of purple enchantment nor white and not even Splendid level white glyph value!

Ygaer

Lettigall wrote: »

@ZOS_JessicaFolsom

Could you pass along that Reduce stamina cost enchantment is broken to hell!? Gold Monumental glyph actually gives only 131 stamina reduction when it should give 200. Even white enchantment have higher value in tooltip(156)!

I'm not even getting value of purple enchantment nor white and not even Splendid level white glyph value!

That's not the same issue, you're losing part of the cost reduction to the flat percentage reduction bonuses you already have from the armor passive/cp.

Lettigall

Ygaer wrote: »

Lettigall wrote: »

@ZOS_JessicaFolsom

Could you pass along that Reduce stamina cost enchantment is broken to hell!? Gold Monumental glyph actually gives only 131 stamina reduction when it should give 200. Even white enchantment have higher value in tooltip(156)!

I'm not even getting value of purple enchantment nor white and not even Splendid level white glyph value!

That's not the same issue, you're losing part of the cost reduction to the flat percentage reduction bonuses you already have from the armor passive/cp.

I have only passive from 5 medium pieces- 15% accessories with monumental golden reduction and 6.7% from CS warlord. I heard rumors that there are around 12% penalty to all reductions except from CS but haven't heard any confirm from ZOS.

I'm getting 34.75% penalty from jewelry enhancement, 400 or 261 is a huge difference.

Sharee

Lettigall wrote: »

Ygaer wrote: »

Lettigall wrote: »

@ZOS_JessicaFolsom

Could you pass along that Reduce stamina cost enchantment is broken to hell!? Gold Monumental glyph actually gives only 131 stamina reduction when it should give 200. Even white enchantment have higher value in tooltip(156)!

I'm not even getting value of purple enchantment nor white and not even Splendid level white glyph value!

That's not the same issue, you're losing part of the cost reduction to the flat percentage reduction bonuses you already have from the armor passive/cp.

I have only passive from 5 medium pieces- 15% accessories with monumental golden reduction and 6.7% from CS warlord. I heard rumors that there are around 12% penalty to all reductions except from CS but haven't heard any confirm from ZOS.

You also have cost reduction from passives in weapon line. 2h weapon is 20% cost reduction, in addition to the 15% from armor, that's 200- 35% = 130

Lettigall

Sharee wrote: »

Lettigall wrote: »

Ygaer wrote: »

Lettigall wrote: »

@ZOS_JessicaFolsom

Could you pass along that Reduce stamina cost enchantment is broken to hell!? Gold Monumental glyph actually gives only 131 stamina reduction when it should give 200. Even white enchantment have higher value in tooltip(156)!

I'm not even getting value of purple enchantment nor white and not even Splendid level white glyph value!

That's not the same issue, you're losing part of the cost reduction to the flat percentage reduction bonuses you already have from the armor passive/cp.

I have only passive from 5 medium pieces- 15% accessories with monumental golden reduction and 6.7% from CS warlord. I heard rumors that there are around 12% penalty to all reductions except from CS but haven't heard any confirm from ZOS.

You also have cost reduction from passives in weapon line. 2h weapon is 20% cost reduction, in addition to the 15% from armor, that's 200- 35% = 130

Damn forgot about that... New formula is hard kick in the nuts for reduction enchantments...

Thanx for clearing that out!

Helluin

The issue related to reduction glyphs not providing their correct ammount of reduction is something I reported during update 6 PTS and it's related to passive skills, sets and CP.
So, if you have cost reductions also from an armor set like Seducer, passive skills, racial skills, etc. the reduction is a lot less.
This is how it works.

Here you can read the thread about this matter during PTS of update 6 with also additional info.

capcody

also weapon enchants to increase power is bugged. it does not work on dualweild.. refuses to proc. also for the trait infused it bugs out and give way more then intended and also the tool tip is broken. i taken a pitcure below.
http://imgur.com/kSfojun

baratron

I spent my evening doing a load of calculations and you can see the results in this thread on the General Discussion forum, and on the linked Google spreadsheet. You should probably read the post before going to the spreadsheet since the post has all my Conclusions in it. Enjoy .

LtCrunch

To add to this it seems that the "Shield-Play" enchant is bugged or has a relatively low cost reduction hard cap. There is no difference between having 3 green bash cost reduction enchanments or 3 purple ones. Can we get some insight into this @ZOS_JessicaFolsom ?