Dwemer Motif Made Harder to Farm

jircris11

Ley wrote: »

Exploration & Itemization
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Due to extensive pillaging, many containers in Mzeneldt (the Dwemer ruins from the Fighters Guild questline) and Avanchnzel (the Dwemer delve located in the Rift) have been ransacked, causing many of them to be emptier than before. We are looking at increasing the number of interactable objects in other Dwemer locations in the future.

I guess this means gold prices will go up and crown sales will increase.

i got three dwemer plans in under 4 hours while LEVELING i was not even farming them.

Ley

jircris11 wrote: »

Ley wrote: »

Exploration & Itemization
General

Due to extensive pillaging, many containers in Mzeneldt (the Dwemer ruins from the Fighters Guild questline) and Avanchnzel (the Dwemer delve located in the Rift) have been ransacked, causing many of them to be emptier than before. We are looking at increasing the number of interactable objects in other Dwemer locations in the future.

I guess this means gold prices will go up and crown sales will increase.

i got three dwemer plans in under 4 hours while LEVELING i was not even farming them.

And I found one on the very first pot I opened when entering my latest Dwemer ruin. I didn't say or imply that they nerfed drop rates. I never farmed the locations that they mentioned anyways so this change will do more good for me than bad.

Fact is, a lot of players were farming those locations and they've now become less efficient. That means overall less Dwemer motifs will be available for sale from other players, at least until they increase the amount of containers in other ruins. That's good news for me because it means that prices will inevitably go up, at least for the time being. Another side effect, with prices going up and availability from other players going down, is that it will also inevitably increase crown store sales of the Dwemer motif.

I was simply pointing out the obvious to see what discussion it created.

nimander99

I'll eat my hat if the other Dwemer ruins get a boost to lootables.

UrQuan

nimander99 wrote: »

I'll eat my hat if the other Dwemer ruins get a boost to lootables.

True story: I have a hat made from fruit roll-ups so that I can safely say "I'll eat my hat if X" without worrying about the consequences if I'm wrong.









Note: story may not actually be true, I may just wish that it was.

Dixa

Ley wrote: »

Exploration & Itemization
General

Due to extensive pillaging, many containers in Mzeneldt (the Dwemer ruins from the Fighters Guild questline) and Avanchnzel (the Dwemer delve located in the Rift) have been ransacked, causing many of them to be emptier than before. We are looking at increasing the number of interactable objects in other Dwemer locations in the future.

I guess this means gold prices will go up and crown sales will increase.

good for the game. money money into the pockets of the people who are keeping the lights on as the impatient become moreso.

good for the economy - all the free gold being printed every day due to the justice system gets used/moved around.

Shader_Shibes

I seem to be finding more than ever now

Ley

UrQuan wrote: »

nimander99 wrote: »

I'll eat my hat if the other Dwemer ruins get a boost to lootables.

True story: I have a hat made from fruit roll-ups so that I can safely say "I'll eat my hat if X" without worrying about the consequences if I'm wrong.









Note: story may not actually be true, I may just wish that it was.

You need to make this a reality.

UrQuan

Ley wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

nimander99 wrote: »

I'll eat my hat if the other Dwemer ruins get a boost to lootables.

True story: I have a hat made from fruit roll-ups so that I can safely say "I'll eat my hat if X" without worrying about the consequences if I'm wrong.









Note: story may not actually be true, I may just wish that it was.

You need to make this a reality.

Not going to lie, I am now giving serious thought to this...

SteveCampsOut

So I farm Avanchnzel all the time for pages. I went to farm it again after seeing the OP here and while I did run across far more containers that were empty, I still got my Dwemer page on that run. Nerfed Dwemers? No, nerfed junk containers? Yep! At least that's my take on it...It still seems to have the same odds of getting a page despite fewer containers having loot.

Vahrokh

P3ZZL3 wrote: »

I'm selling Swords for 10k even though MM is 8600.

I love when something money related adds MM support. MMs are awesome to manipulate and have people buy at whatever crazy price I want. I usually sell stuff at up to 50%-70% above their real price thanks to that.

pugyourself

Vahrokh wrote: »

P3ZZL3 wrote: »

I'm selling Swords for 10k even though MM is 8600.

I love when something money related adds MM support. MMs are awesome to manipulate and have people buy at whatever crazy price I want. I usually sell stuff at up to 50%-70% above their real price thanks to that.

How?

Theosis

Ley wrote: »

RNG must hate me.

Ley wrote: »

RNG must hate me.

Ley wrote: »

RNG must hate me.

and me

Ley

pugyourself wrote: »

Vahrokh wrote: »

P3ZZL3 wrote: »

I'm selling Swords for 10k even though MM is 8600.

I love when something money related adds MM support. MMs are awesome to manipulate and have people buy at whatever crazy price I want. I usually sell stuff at up to 50%-70% above their real price thanks to that.

How?

I've seen people abuse MM to inflate prices. They'll join a new trading guild, put for example a Rera rune up for 55,000 and buy it back (with a partner maybe, not sure if you can buy your own goods), taking a small loss but bumping up the average MM price from 150 gold to 550 gold. Not everyone will fall for this but some people will (there's actually a setting that lets you ignore abnormal prices). They'll see a stack of 200 Rera runes then selling for 350 each and think, man I can make a small fortune reselling those at the MM price of 550. They buy the stack and are sorely disappointed when it won't sell, after a month or two they finally drop the price to 150 and it sells. It's essentially a scam. People do it with recipes, crafting materials, motifs, many do it much more subtly than that. That's just one way I've noticed, you just have to pay attention.

I make all my gold flipping under priced goods from guild stores, I probably buy between 50k-100k of goods to flip every day and I've fallen victim to this a couple times when I started out, luckily with smaller amounts of gold.

Edit: I hope I haven't inspired a new generation of MM scammers.

pugyourself

Ley wrote: »

pugyourself wrote: »

Vahrokh wrote: »

P3ZZL3 wrote: »

I'm selling Swords for 10k even though MM is 8600.

I love when something money related adds MM support. MMs are awesome to manipulate and have people buy at whatever crazy price I want. I usually sell stuff at up to 50%-70% above their real price thanks to that.

How?

I've seen people abuse MM to inflate prices. They'll join a new trading guild, put for example a Rera rune up for 55,000 and buy it back (with a partner maybe, not sure if you can buy your own goods), taking a small loss but bumping up the average MM price from 150 gold to 550 gold. Not everyone will fall for this but some people will (there's actually a setting that lets you ignore abnormal prices). They'll see a stack of 200 Rera runes then selling for 350 each and think, man I can make a small fortune reselling those at the MM price of 550. They buy the stack and are sorely disappointed when it won't sell, after a month or two they finally drop the price to 150 and it sells. It's essentially a scam. People do it with recipes, crafting materials, motifs, many do it much more subtly than that. That's just one way I've noticed, you just have to pay attention.

I make all my gold flipping under priced goods from guild stores, I probably buy between 50k-100k of goods to flip every day and I've fallen victim to this a couple times when I started out, luckily with smaller amounts of gold.

Edit: I hope I haven't inspired a new generation of MM scammers.

Time for me to find that setting! I was wondering about the crash in recipe prices recently. Sounds like something like this could have been at work.

Ley

pugyourself wrote: »

Ley wrote: »

pugyourself wrote: »

Vahrokh wrote: »

P3ZZL3 wrote: »

I'm selling Swords for 10k even though MM is 8600.

I love when something money related adds MM support. MMs are awesome to manipulate and have people buy at whatever crazy price I want. I usually sell stuff at up to 50%-70% above their real price thanks to that.

How?

I've seen people abuse MM to inflate prices. They'll join a new trading guild, put for example a Rera rune up for 55,000 and buy it back (with a partner maybe, not sure if you can buy your own goods), taking a small loss but bumping up the average MM price from 150 gold to 550 gold. Not everyone will fall for this but some people will (there's actually a setting that lets you ignore abnormal prices). They'll see a stack of 200 Rera runes then selling for 350 each and think, man I can make a small fortune reselling those at the MM price of 550. They buy the stack and are sorely disappointed when it won't sell, after a month or two they finally drop the price to 150 and it sells. It's essentially a scam. People do it with recipes, crafting materials, motifs, many do it much more subtly than that. That's just one way I've noticed, you just have to pay attention.

I make all my gold flipping under priced goods from guild stores, I probably buy between 50k-100k of goods to flip every day and I've fallen victim to this a couple times when I started out, luckily with smaller amounts of gold.

Edit: I hope I haven't inspired a new generation of MM scammers.

Time for me to find that setting! I was wondering about the crash in recipe prices recently. Sounds like something like this could have been at work.

Ley

Exploration & Itemization
General

Significantly increased the number of lootable Dwemer containers in a number of locations. All Dwemer locations will now contain an approximately proportional number of containers for their overall size.
Increased Inner Sea Armature containers by 50%
Increased Santaki containers by approximately 50%
Increased Razak's Wheel containers by approximately 125%
Increased Lower Bthanual containers by approximately 300%
Increased Yldzuun containers by approximately 400%

Wasn't expecting that.

AngryNord

nimander99 wrote: »

I'll eat my hat if the other Dwemer ruins get a boost to lootables.

You want some fries with it?

P3ZZL3

NAh, give him a slice of Dwemer Scrap

Arunei

AngryNord wrote: »

nimander99 wrote: »

I'll eat my hat if the other Dwemer ruins get a boost to lootables.

You want some fries with it?

D'aw, you beat me to it.

Now if you'll excuse me I need to go run around Inner Sea so I can get Dwemer Scrap to throw at merchants and what-have-you.

MCMancub

Ley wrote: »

Exploration & Itemization
General

Significantly increased the number of lootable Dwemer containers in a number of locations. All Dwemer locations will now contain an approximately proportional number of containers for their overall size.
Increased Inner Sea Armature containers by 50%
Increased Santaki containers by approximately 50%
Increased Razak's Wheel containers by approximately 125%
Increased Lower Bthanual containers by approximately 300%
Increased Yldzuun containers by approximately 400%

Wasn't expecting that.

Why? Are you honestly so cynical that you don't believe anything anyone tells you?

Due to extensive pillaging, many containers in Mzeneldt (the Dwemer ruins from the Fighters Guild questline) and Avanchnzel (the Dwemer delve located in the Rift) have been ransacked, causing many of them to be emptier than before. We are looking at increasing the number of interactable objects in other Dwemer locations in the future.

Everyone on these forums seems to think ZOS is just trying to screw us over, like they don't actually care what the consumer thinks of their product.

Ley

MCMancub wrote: »

Ley wrote: »

Exploration & Itemization
General

Significantly increased the number of lootable Dwemer containers in a number of locations. All Dwemer locations will now contain an approximately proportional number of containers for their overall size.
Increased Inner Sea Armature containers by 50%
Increased Santaki containers by approximately 50%
Increased Razak's Wheel containers by approximately 125%
Increased Lower Bthanual containers by approximately 300%
Increased Yldzuun containers by approximately 400%

Wasn't expecting that.

Why? Are you honestly so cynical that you don't believe anything anyone tells you?

Due to extensive pillaging, many containers in Mzeneldt (the Dwemer ruins from the Fighters Guild questline) and Avanchnzel (the Dwemer delve located in the Rift) have been ransacked, causing many of them to be emptier than before. We are looking at increasing the number of interactable objects in other Dwemer locations in the future.

Everyone on these forums seems to think ZOS is just trying to screw us over, like they don't actually care what the consumer thinks of their product.

You are reading way too much into what I said. I just thought it would take much longer and I thought containers would be increased by less. If you read the whole thread you'll see that I didn't intend this as a zos is screwing us over, bashing thread.

UrQuan

Ley wrote: »

MCMancub wrote: »

Ley wrote: »

Exploration & Itemization
General

Significantly increased the number of lootable Dwemer containers in a number of locations. All Dwemer locations will now contain an approximately proportional number of containers for their overall size.
Increased Inner Sea Armature containers by 50%
Increased Santaki containers by approximately 50%
Increased Razak's Wheel containers by approximately 125%
Increased Lower Bthanual containers by approximately 300%
Increased Yldzuun containers by approximately 400%

Wasn't expecting that.

Why? Are you honestly so cynical that you don't believe anything anyone tells you?

Due to extensive pillaging, many containers in Mzeneldt (the Dwemer ruins from the Fighters Guild questline) and Avanchnzel (the Dwemer delve located in the Rift) have been ransacked, causing many of them to be emptier than before. We are looking at increasing the number of interactable objects in other Dwemer locations in the future.

Everyone on these forums seems to think ZOS is just trying to screw us over, like they don't actually care what the consumer thinks of their product.

You are reading way too much into what I said. I just thought it would take much longer and I thought containers would be increased by less. If you read the whole thread you'll see that I didn't intend this as a zos is screwing us over, bashing thread.

As much as I'm one of the people who don't believe that ZOS is trying to do anything other than making a game that the customers will enjoy (while staying profitable, obviously, but you can't stay profitable long term if the customers don't enjoy the game), I'm with you on that. I fully expected them to do what they said and increase the number of interactable objects in other Dwemer locations, but I didn't expect it to be increased by that much. I did expect the increase to come today, though, because I saw a ZOS post elsewhere saying it would be today

UrQuan

AngryNord wrote: »

nimander99 wrote: »

I'll eat my hat if the other Dwemer ruins get a boost to lootables.

You want some fries with it?

Actually, for the sake of @nimander99 I strongly suggest marinading the hat overnight (at least) in some variety of steak sauce. This will help to tenderize the hat, while making it taste much more palatable. That being the case, I think garlic mashed potatoes on the side would pair with it nicely, maybe along with some roasted red peppers.

nimander99

nimander99 wrote: »

I'll eat my hat if the other Dwemer ruins get a boost to lootables.

lol.... $%&^ someone have a sweetroll and moonsugar to go with my hat? Oh and ill need some skooma to wash down the cotton

UrQuan

nimander99 wrote: »

nimander99 wrote: »

I'll eat my hat if the other Dwemer ruins get a boost to lootables.

lol.... $%&^ someone have a sweetroll and moonsugar to go with my hat? Oh and ill need some skooma to wash down the cotton

Quickly: fashion a hat out of jerky!

Kelleton

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Arunei

UrQuan wrote: »

Actually, for the sake of @nimander99 I strongly suggest marinading the hat overnight (at least) in some variety of steak sauce. This will help to tenderize the hat, while making it taste much more palatable. That being the case, I think garlic mashed potatoes on the side would pair with it nicely, maybe along with some roasted red peppers.

GDI now I'm hungry, thanks x__x.

In all seriousness though, I'm surprised by how many containers there are now as well. Inner Sea used to be pretty barren but now there's a lot of jugs/jars/etc to be looted n__n.

ContraTempo

UrQuan wrote: »

nimander99 wrote: »

nimander99 wrote: »

I'll eat my hat if the other Dwemer ruins get a boost to lootables.

lol.... $%&^ someone have a sweetroll and moonsugar to go with my hat? Oh and ill need some skooma to wash down the cotton

Quickly: fashion a hat out of jerky!

Bacon hat!

UrQuan

ContraTempo wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

nimander99 wrote: »

nimander99 wrote: »

I'll eat my hat if the other Dwemer ruins get a boost to lootables.

lol.... $%&^ someone have a sweetroll and moonsugar to go with my hat? Oh and ill need some skooma to wash down the cotton

Quickly: fashion a hat out of jerky!

Bacon hat!

I would definitely eat that hat.

Ley

ContraTempo wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

nimander99 wrote: »

nimander99 wrote: »

I'll eat my hat if the other Dwemer ruins get a boost to lootables.

lol.... $%&^ someone have a sweetroll and moonsugar to go with my hat? Oh and ill need some skooma to wash down the cotton

Quickly: fashion a hat out of jerky!

Bacon hat!

If I hadn't seen the picture with my own eyes I'm not sure I would have believed it. Made my day!

I wish I could re-title this thread "Dwemer Motif Inspires Edible Hats"