XP Potions are coming to the Crown store...

hummice

When? Does anyone know when ZOS is releasing? The images floating around where data-mined but no info was attached. ZOS, can you possibly tell us when we can see these amazing pots available?

ZOS_JessicaFolsom

We don't have an ETA on them, @hummice, but we'll let everyone know when they're in the Crown Store. The details of how they work, who can use them, the duration, etc. are still being tweaked, too.

Erock25

Here is to hoping they don't affect CP gains!!!!!

Caza99

If ZoS make them affect CP gains, a lot of players will walk.

hummice

Thanks for getting back so quick! Just know there is a few guilds-worth of people very excited for these!

NCML

Erock25 wrote: »

Here is to hoping they don't affect CP gains!!!!!

Here's to hoping for a CP package of 3500 for $50 so we can just be done with it.

hummice

I cant imagine them affecting CP gain, i see these as straight-XP gain- perfect for anyone who would like to have their lv 35 templar in Vet ranks quickly so they can stop repec'ing their nightblade as a healer over and over again, at 6000+ gold each time... Just saying.

Rune_Relic

Caza99 wrote: »

If ZoS make them affect CP gains, a lot of players will walk.

How can you increase XP gain without enhancing CP ?
Other than disassociating CP from XP
#canofworms

Attorneyatlawl

Erock25 wrote: »

Here is to hoping they don't affect CP gains!!!!!

Indeed, sir. Indeed.

hummice wrote: »

I cant imagine them affecting CP gain, i see these as straight-XP gain- perfect for anyone who would like to have their lv 35 templar in Vet ranks quickly so they can stop repec'ing their nightblade as a healer over and over again, at 6000+ gold each time... Just saying.

Hopefully not, though admittedly it would have been good to have had that communicated when news of them was starting to float around, given how polarizing that aspect of them is. I think them affecting Champion Point gains vs. only affecting skill line xp/leveling experience speed, is the main thing a lot of us are wondering still . The rest might be liked or disliked to varying degrees but wouldn't result in a whole lot more than grumbling .

Attorneyatlawl

Rune_Relic wrote: »

Caza99 wrote: »

If ZoS make them affect CP gains, a lot of players will walk.

How can you increase XP gain without enhancing CP ?
Other than disassociating CP from XP
#canofworms

CP are already separated internally . You can see this through the API and find out what percentage of your XP is being applied to your CP. Without enlightenment it's 100%, and when enlightened, you see an extra 3x multiple added in. The same thing is done with Veteran Points (VP) as well.

Pallmor

Erock25 wrote: »

Here is to hoping they don't affect CP gains!!!!!

If they didn't, then what incentive would any Vet 14's have to buy them? Do you expect ZOS to just give up that entire large market share?

Emma_Overload

Erock25 wrote: »

Here is to hoping they don't affect CP gains!!!!!

If you were just starting a 10 year prison sentence, wouldn't you like to see it reduced to 9 years, instead?

Face it, 3600 CP with only 1 Enlightenment point per day is a 10 year sentence of grinding mobs like you were breaking rocks in a prison chain gang! Anything that can be done to reduce that grind is fine with me.

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phreatophile

If they don't affect CP, they won't sell. Nor should they.

If they affect CP, I'll burn my whole crown 'allowance' and then some on them. If they don't, why bother with them. They have to be a large enough boost to be worth bothering with as well. Anything less than 50%, which for the math challenged is 1/8 of enlightened gains, why bother.

I don't have 6+ hours per day to grind out CP, but I'll gladly spend a few of the dollars I made working while others are playing to catch up a little.

Erock25

Pallmor wrote: »

Erock25 wrote: »

Here is to hoping they don't affect CP gains!!!!!

If they didn't, then what incentive would any Vet 14's have to buy them? Do you expect ZOS to just give up that entire large market share?

Yes. They should only be used to reach VR14 quicker.

Emma_Eunjung wrote: »

Erock25 wrote: »

Here is to hoping they don't affect CP gains!!!!!

If you were just starting a 10 year prison sentence, wouldn't you like to see it reduced to 9 years, instead?

Face it, 3600 CP with only 1 Enlightenment point per day is a 10 year sentence of grinding mobs like you were breaking rocks in a prison chain gang! Anything that can be done to reduce that grind is fine with me.

The problem with XP potions affecting CP isn't with the person who takes 10 years to reach 3600. The problem is with the people who will reach 3600CP with these XP potions while the rest of us are at 200CP.

Bfish22090

I hope they're for leveling, vet xp grind is non playable atm

Prizax

Yes! CP/XP pots pls

Prizax

Erock25 wrote: »

The problem with XP potions affecting CP isn't with the person who takes 10 years to reach 3600. The problem is with the people who will reach 3600CP with these XP potions while the rest of us are at 200CP.

Welcome to B2P (or F2P in a year) system...

Alcast

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

We don't have an ETA on them, @hummice, but we'll let everyone know when they're in the Crown Store. The details of how they work, who can use them, the duration, etc. are still being tweaked, too.

I just hope (and I am even fine with that) that the exp bonus only applies to Level progression and NOT Championpoints. Otherwise you will seeeee manyyyyyyy ppl floating of your boat believe me.

Elsonso

My hope is that this is a 10% boost, like ESO Plus, and that it is only for players that are not ESO Plus members.

Shader_Shibes

Just give me them already so i can level up my op imperial toons in a few days.

Zorrashi

lordrichter wrote: »

My hope is that this is a 10% boost, like ESO Plus, and that it is only for players that are not ESO Plus members.

It's my hope too. I would prefer them not to be in the store at all, but that's not likely.

Eliteseraph

The problem lies with how grindy vet levels/CP gains are, not with the EXP pots themselves.

reften

They're waiting for us to burn our crowns on stuff we don't need before they put stuff in the store we need

Frawr

CP isn't supposed to be a grind. It is intended to be a gentle achievement system as you play at endgame in order to give you something.

If you choose to grind it then - go for it.

That said, there is no way on earth that the xp pots will 'not affect CP'. Of course they will. Imagine the lost sales if they were of no benefit to anyone at VR14. Crazy talk!

Better to just accept it and move on. Play or don't play.

nothing2591

Rune_Relic wrote: »

Caza99 wrote: »

If ZoS make them affect CP gains, a lot of players will walk.

How can you increase XP gain without enhancing CP ?
Other than disassociating CP from XP
#canofworms

the potion is gonna have to disassociating CP from XP and it woundt be so bad now would it?

Tavore1138

XP earned are contributed to CP at a 1 to 1 ration unless enlightened in which case it is 4 to 1.

One would assume that if XP was increased by 50% so would the rate of CP gain... either at x1.5 a normal or at x6.0 when enlightened.

Certainly this is how the +10% from ESO+ works currently - 110% gain normally with 440% gain when enlightened.

As the grind from VR1-14 is less than 1% of the CP grind they would be losing potentially 99% of the market by leaving CP out of the systems that could benefit.

I'm not taking a side here BTW.

Thymos

Emma_Eunjung wrote: »

Erock25 wrote: »

Here is to hoping they don't affect CP gains!!!!!

If you were just starting a 10 year prison sentence, wouldn't you like to see it reduced to 9 years, instead?

Face it, 3600 CP with only 1 Enlightenment point per day is a 10 year sentence of grinding mobs like you were breaking rocks in a prison chain gang! Anything that can be done to reduce that grind is fine with me.

After going 9 years, what's 1 more year to me?

vovus69

Of course XP potions will affect CP points too. Otherwise it makes no sense to add them to the game. I would like to see how it will work. I don't need any XP boosters now (I am almost VR10 and still in VR5 zone...) but perhaps will need it when wil lbe VR14... Will see.

Audigy

Caza99 wrote: »

If ZoS make them affect CP gains, a lot of players will walk.

Thing is, if they don't make them for CP´s, then nobody will buy them The gap at ESO isn't there because of 1-50, but because of VR-14 and the CP´s that people gain there.

A new player has 0, but would need a year to catch up with those currently in their 200s+. ZOS must fix this, else no new players will join.

Helluin

These potions would be great for new players, returning players and after long breaks to avoid a power gap with active players, even if something different would be better (like a different diminishing return curve on Champion system or a cap).
This gap, that will be bigger in future, is the main concern PvP wise (+ performances in Cyrodiil) of all my guildies back to game with the new business model.
Because of this, I can understand them if PvP wise they prefer to stick to GW2, while waiting for another RvR game.

But for this, stored enlightenment shouldn't have just 12 days limit.

Lionxoft

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

We don't have an ETA on them, @hummice, but we'll let everyone know when they're in the Crown Store. The details of how they work, who can use them, the duration, etc. are still being tweaked, too.

@Attorneyatlawl

I know you were pretty active in my thread regarding these boosters. It's a good sign to see this bit of language included.