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VileIntent
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Everyone knows console is just around the corner and holding new content until it is released is probably the best idea. But does anyone find it rather coincidentally the same time frame as E3 and Bethesda's first ever show?
As a ESO Plus Member I too feel slightly cheated by console release. Knowing that nothing new will come out for another month and a half, besides the random pet, mount or crown store item.
It was stated at quake con during the ESO panel that Spellcrafting was nearly finished, but that they still needed some testing to make sure certain combinations wouldn't be to overpowering. I am no devopler, nor do I claim to know anything about developing a game. I'm fairly certain it doesn't take almost a year to finish a bit of dlc.
So, it is with great hope and anticipation that E3 should be one hell of a show.
Patience is a virtue, that I and many others of these times graciously lack. Here's to stock piling crowns. *cheers*
  • Argoniawind
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    Well I look at it from a different perspective, im a console gamer for all my Elder Scrolls games and I bought my xbox one cus of ESO and future Bethesda games. unfortunetly I was only able to play the pc version waiting only to find out the console release was pushed back, so if this was release at the same timeframe we all would be happy. but this is not a pc vs console thing like so many make it out to be cus they cant get what they want when they want it, So naturally all the pc players are like oh they are holding out on new content due to the console release. Honestly I don't care what people prefer to play it on as long as they are playing it.. So if anyone should be frustrated its people like me who have been waiting since they first started to develop ESO back in 2007 to play it on console... I look forward to everything Bethesda got coming and seeing the genius Todd Howard unveil new stuff with there first ever self convention!!!
    Edited by Argoniawind on April 14, 2015 12:12AM
    "Live Another Life In Another World"
  • SHADOW2KK
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    TBH I want more content, but mainly I want lag fixed in PvE/PvP before they even think of implementing new features and dlc zones or anything, as that will just mess up the already buggy game code as it is, and cause more problems.

    Fix the game first and optimise it before new content.

    Does not matter how good your rig or net is, the game lags a lot when it should`t, this is not right nor acceptable.
    Once I was a lamb, playing in a green field. Then the wolves came. Now I am an eagle and I fly in a different universe.

    Been taking heads since TeS 3 Morrowind..

    Been enjoying PvP tears since 2014

    LvL 50 - Dragon Knight EP [PC-EU] = Illuvutar = Ex The Wabbajack = (Stam DK)
    LvL 50 - Night Blade DC [PC-EU] = Legendary Blades = Evil Ninja/Dueller = (StamBlade)
    LvL 50 - Sorcerer DC [PC-EU] = Daemon Lord = (Mag Sorc)
    LvL 50 - Dragon Knight DC [PC-EU] = Khal-Bladez = (Mag DK)
    LvL 50 - Dragon Knight DC [PC-EU] = Tenakha Khan = (Stam DK)
    LvL 50 - Templar DC [PC-EU]] = Blades The Disgruntled = (Stamplar)
    LvL 50 - Night Blade DC [PC-EU] = Ghost Blades = (Assassin)
    LvL 50 - Night Blade DC [PC-EU] = Malekith The Shadow = (Mag NB)
    LvL 50 - Warden DC [PC-EU] = Crimson Blades = (Stamden)

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  • VileIntent
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    Well I look at it from a different perspective, im a console gamer for all my Elder Scrolls games and I bought my xbox one cus of ESO and future Bethesda games. unfortunetly I was only able to play this pc withing for a delayed console release, so if this was release at the same timeframe we all would be happy. but this is not a pc vs console thing like so many make it out to be cus they cant get what they want when they want it, So naturally all the pc players are like oh they are holding out on new content due to the console release. Honestly I don't care what people prefer to play it on as long as they are playing it.. So if anyone should be frustrated its people like me who have been waiting since they first started to develop ESO back in 2007... I look forward to everything Bethesda got coming and seeing the genius Todd Howard unveil new stuff with there first ever self convention!!!

    I agree with you. The problem for us on pc is we like my guild Entropy Rising has lost 95% of its players due to a lack of new content to challenge us. We still meet and talk on skype and teamspeak, but most of them went back to wow or are playinv other games until something releases. This leaves a handful like me with no one online to do any trials or other content as a guild. This is where at least I as a plus member feels cheated by consoles. It isnt anything personal to a console player.
    Edited by VileIntent on April 14, 2015 12:24AM
  • Argoniawind
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    VileIntent wrote: »
    Well I look at it from a different perspective, im a console gamer for all my Elder Scrolls games and I bought my xbox one cus of ESO and future Bethesda games. unfortunetly I was only able to play this pc withing for a delayed console release, so if this was release at the same timeframe we all would be happy. but this is not a pc vs console thing like so many make it out to be cus they cant get what they want when they want it, So naturally all the pc players are like oh they are holding out on new content due to the console release. Honestly I don't care what people prefer to play it on as long as they are playing it.. So if anyone should be frustrated its people like me who have been waiting since they first started to develop ESO back in 2007... I look forward to everything Bethesda got coming and seeing the genius Todd Howard unveil new stuff with there first ever self convention!!!

    I agree with you. The problem for us on pc is we like my guild Entropy Rising has lost 95% of its players due to a lack of new content to challenge us. We still meet and talk on skype and teamspeak, but most of them went back to wow or are playinv other games until something releases. This leaves a handful like me with no one online to do any trials or other content as a guild. This is where at least I as a plus member feels cheated by consoles. It isnt anything personal to a console player.

    All I can say is your cheating yourself if you continue to subscribe knowing there isn't enough content, look I play this solo the whole way I want more solo content im pretty much stuck at a shy less than vr 11, and I did every quest possible that doesn't require another person, so basically im just waiting for console release and stopped playing the pc version and im an Elder Scrolls veteran and I love this franchise. But I hear about what your saying about your guild friends... We all gotta wait, as the saying goes good thing come to those who wait.. and im friggin impatient LMFAO I don't have time to wait!!!!
    Edited by Argoniawind on April 14, 2015 12:37AM
    "Live Another Life In Another World"
  • VileIntent
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    SHADOW2KK wrote: »
    TBH I want more content, but mainly I want lag fixed in PvE/PvP before they even think of implementing new features and dlc zones or anything, as that will just mess up the already buggy game code as it is, and cause more problems.

    Fix the game first and optimise it before new content.

    Does not matter how good your rig or net is, the game lags a lot when it should`t, this is not right nor acceptable.


    I can agree. Recently I built a new pc for gaming. Since then I have had major lag only during large group pvp. I also minimize my addons as I found out they were also a source of my issues. It may not be the same for you I understand. But it does help to turn off addons you dont REALLY need when heading to do pvp.
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    Seriously, everything is riding on the console release. As unfair as the PC/Mac crowd might think this is, they are focused on console and whatever lead work they need to be doing for what they would like to be doing immediately after console.

    The first month or so after console release will be fixing console bugs.

    So, from now through the middle of July and perhaps touching August, it will be console, console, and console. Around the latter part of this time they will start to think about when to put the next content update on PTS. Their definition of content, not ours, but I seriously expect that Imperial City will be the first thing out the door.



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  • SHADOW2KK
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    VileIntent wrote: »
    SHADOW2KK wrote: »
    TBH I want more content, but mainly I want lag fixed in PvE/PvP before they even think of implementing new features and dlc zones or anything, as that will just mess up the already buggy game code as it is, and cause more problems.

    Fix the game first and optimise it before new content.

    Does not matter how good your rig or net is, the game lags a lot when it should`t, this is not right nor acceptable.


    I can agree. Recently I built a new pc for gaming. Since then I have had major lag only during large group pvp. I also minimize my addons as I found out they were also a source of my issues. It may not be the same for you I understand. But it does help to turn off addons you dont REALLY need when heading to do pvp.

    Aye well said matey, well said, addons can be an issue even after using Minion to autoupdate or disabling non essential ones, but the lag is terribad, super rig and good net and still get lag sometimes on this game, but no other, makes me irritable lol
    Once I was a lamb, playing in a green field. Then the wolves came. Now I am an eagle and I fly in a different universe.

    Been taking heads since TeS 3 Morrowind..

    Been enjoying PvP tears since 2014

    LvL 50 - Dragon Knight EP [PC-EU] = Illuvutar = Ex The Wabbajack = (Stam DK)
    LvL 50 - Night Blade DC [PC-EU] = Legendary Blades = Evil Ninja/Dueller = (StamBlade)
    LvL 50 - Sorcerer DC [PC-EU] = Daemon Lord = (Mag Sorc)
    LvL 50 - Dragon Knight DC [PC-EU] = Khal-Bladez = (Mag DK)
    LvL 50 - Dragon Knight DC [PC-EU] = Tenakha Khan = (Stam DK)
    LvL 50 - Templar DC [PC-EU]] = Blades The Disgruntled = (Stamplar)
    LvL 50 - Night Blade DC [PC-EU] = Ghost Blades = (Assassin)
    LvL 50 - Night Blade DC [PC-EU] = Malekith The Shadow = (Mag NB)
    LvL 50 - Warden DC [PC-EU] = Crimson Blades = (Stamden)

    Guild Master of The Bringers Of The Storm.
    Harrods


    Member Of The Old Guard
    PC Closed Betas 2013

    PC Mastah Race

    Anook Page anook.com/shadow2kk

    Been playing since Beta and Early Access

  • VileIntent
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    Seriously, everything is riding on the console release. As unfair as the PC/Mac crowd might think this is, they are focused on console and whatever lead work they need to be doing for what they would like to be doing immediately after console.

    The first month or so after console release will be fixing console bugs.

    So, from now through the middle of July and perhaps touching August, it will be console, console, and console. Around the latter part of this time they will start to think about when to put the next content update on PTS. Their definition of content, not ours, but I seriously expect that Imperial City will be the first thing out the door.



    I would seriously not rule out a E3 surprise.



    SHADOW2KK wrote: »
    VileIntent wrote: »
    SHADOW2KK wrote: »
    TBH I want more content, but mainly I want lag fixed in PvE/PvP before they even think of implementing new features and dlc zones or anything, as that will just mess up the already buggy game code as it is, and cause more problems.

    Fix the game first and optimise it before new content.

    Does not matter how good your rig or net is, the game lags a lot when it should`t, this is not right nor acceptable.


    I can agree. Recently I built a new pc for gaming. Since then I have had major lag only during large group pvp. I also minimize my addons as I found out they were also a source of my issues. It may not be the same for you I understand. But it does help to turn off addons you dont REALLY need when heading to do pvp.

    Aye well said matey, well said, addons can be an issue even after using Minion to autoupdate or disabling non essential ones, but the lag is terribad, super rig and good net and still get lag sometimes on this game, but no other, makes me irritable lol

    Yes sir, I agree. This is the only game for me as well.
  • SHADOW2KK
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    VileIntent wrote: »
    Seriously, everything is riding on the console release. As unfair as the PC/Mac crowd might think this is, they are focused on console and whatever lead work they need to be doing for what they would like to be doing immediately after console.

    The first month or so after console release will be fixing console bugs.

    So, from now through the middle of July and perhaps touching August, it will be console, console, and console. Around the latter part of this time they will start to think about when to put the next content update on PTS. Their definition of content, not ours, but I seriously expect that Imperial City will be the first thing out the door.



    I would seriously not rule out a E3 surprise.



    SHADOW2KK wrote: »
    VileIntent wrote: »
    SHADOW2KK wrote: »
    TBH I want more content, but mainly I want lag fixed in PvE/PvP before they even think of implementing new features and dlc zones or anything, as that will just mess up the already buggy game code as it is, and cause more problems.

    Fix the game first and optimise it before new content.

    Does not matter how good your rig or net is, the game lags a lot when it should`t, this is not right nor acceptable.


    I can agree. Recently I built a new pc for gaming. Since then I have had major lag only during large group pvp. I also minimize my addons as I found out they were also a source of my issues. It may not be the same for you I understand. But it does help to turn off addons you dont REALLY need when heading to do pvp.

    Aye well said matey, well said, addons can be an issue even after using Minion to autoupdate or disabling non essential ones, but the lag is terribad, super rig and good net and still get lag sometimes on this game, but no other, makes me irritable lol

    Yes sir, I agree. This is the only game for me as well.

    Your pain is shared good sir
    Once I was a lamb, playing in a green field. Then the wolves came. Now I am an eagle and I fly in a different universe.

    Been taking heads since TeS 3 Morrowind..

    Been enjoying PvP tears since 2014

    LvL 50 - Dragon Knight EP [PC-EU] = Illuvutar = Ex The Wabbajack = (Stam DK)
    LvL 50 - Night Blade DC [PC-EU] = Legendary Blades = Evil Ninja/Dueller = (StamBlade)
    LvL 50 - Sorcerer DC [PC-EU] = Daemon Lord = (Mag Sorc)
    LvL 50 - Dragon Knight DC [PC-EU] = Khal-Bladez = (Mag DK)
    LvL 50 - Dragon Knight DC [PC-EU] = Tenakha Khan = (Stam DK)
    LvL 50 - Templar DC [PC-EU]] = Blades The Disgruntled = (Stamplar)
    LvL 50 - Night Blade DC [PC-EU] = Ghost Blades = (Assassin)
    LvL 50 - Night Blade DC [PC-EU] = Malekith The Shadow = (Mag NB)
    LvL 50 - Warden DC [PC-EU] = Crimson Blades = (Stamden)

    Guild Master of The Bringers Of The Storm.
    Harrods


    Member Of The Old Guard
    PC Closed Betas 2013

    PC Mastah Race

    Anook Page anook.com/shadow2kk

    Been playing since Beta and Early Access

  • hamon
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    VileIntent wrote: »
    Everyone knows console is just around the corner and holding new content until it is released is probably the best idea. But does anyone find it rather coincidentally the same time frame as E3 and Bethesda's first ever show?
    As a ESO Plus Member I too feel slightly cheated by console release. Knowing that nothing new will come out for another month and a half, besides the random pet, mount or crown store item.
    It was stated at quake con during the ESO panel that Spellcrafting was nearly finished, but that they still needed some testing to make sure certain combinations wouldn't be to overpowering. I am no devopler, nor do I claim to know anything about developing a game. I'm fairly certain it doesn't take almost a year to finish a bit of dlc.
    So, it is with great hope and anticipation that E3 should be one hell of a show.
    Patience is a virtue, that I and many others of these times graciously lack. Here's to stock piling crowns. *cheers*

    i actually hope the E3 show is to announce the folow up to skyrim.. but i think its more about the next wolfenstien..

  • VileIntent
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    Just to give you guys an idea, I have a I7-4790k intel 4.0ghz hyperthreaded (8 cores) using a Nvidia 980 gtx superclocked video card. I run ultra settings using default optimized settings from my nvidia experience program. It sets the game video settings based on my system information. In any pve zone im 50+ fps, pvp im 50+ fps. Thornblade as soon as i run into a large zerg. 4 fps, i have to drop my video settings to medium to keep above 18 fps in a large battle on thornblade.
  • VileIntent
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    hamon wrote: »
    VileIntent wrote: »
    Everyone knows console is just around the corner and holding new content until it is released is probably the best idea. But does anyone find it rather coincidentally the same time frame as E3 and Bethesda's first ever show?
    As a ESO Plus Member I too feel slightly cheated by console release. Knowing that nothing new will come out for another month and a half, besides the random pet, mount or crown store item.
    It was stated at quake con during the ESO panel that Spellcrafting was nearly finished, but that they still needed some testing to make sure certain combinations wouldn't be to overpowering. I am no devopler, nor do I claim to know anything about developing a game. I'm fairly certain it doesn't take almost a year to finish a bit of dlc.
    So, it is with great hope and anticipation that E3 should be one hell of a show.
    Patience is a virtue, that I and many others of these times graciously lack. Here's to stock piling crowns. *cheers*

    i actually hope the E3 show is to announce the folow up to skyrim.. but i think its more about the next wolfenstien..

    I should hope it's Fallout 4. :smiley:
  • Gidorick
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    I'm hoping that once the consoles release ESO will be freaking AMAZING.... I would be more than willing to accept that the first 14 months was a beta if it means the next few years (decade++??) is chocked full of Elder Scrolls goodness.
    What ESO really needs is an Auction Horse.
    That's right... Horse.
    Click HERE to discuss.

    Want more crazy ideas? Check out my Concept Repository!
  • VileIntent
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    Gidorick wrote: »
    I'm hoping that once the consoles release ESO will be freaking AMAZING.... I would be more than willing to accept that the first 14 months was a beta if it means the next few years (decade++??) is chocked full of Elder Scrolls goodness.

    Having tested the trials at their office in jan. of 2013, I saw first hand the team and how passionate they are. I know the new stuff will be awesome. I am almost assuredly positive its Bethesda and E3 with console release that pulling the reins at the moment.
  • Molsondry
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    Cant they have a dev team for console and a dev team for pc . Like other companies . Really come on . console console console they should have 2 dev team Console is very different from pc...
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  • VileIntent
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    Molsondry wrote: »
    Cant they have a dev team for console and a dev team for pc . Like other companies . Really come on . console console console they should have 2 dev team Console is very different from pc...

    Once it is released the two would be one in the same. No need for a second team. I've heard it's easier to port from pc to console than from console to pc. I would not be surprised if it wasn't designed the way it is from the beginning just for console release.
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