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I have solved all my crashing problems, FPS problems, latency problems, and loading screens!!!!!!!

  • Egonieser
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    If it only was that simple, i have 3x the system you listed and more, doesn't solve anything. People can play this game with 5-year old hamster powered laptops, doesn't solve the problems that lie within the client coding and netcode, ZoS themslves admitted they don't know what causes the glitches, 80% of them are server/client side rather than problem with people's computers.

    This post is nothing but a show-off of your new system - congrats (although nothing impressive), but please keep these sort of useless posts to yourself if you have no idea what you are talking about or have nothing useful to advise people with. This is a tech support forum not "Show us your Rig" forum.
    There are plenty websites and forums where you can show-off your brand new rig where it is actually relevant.
    Edited by Egonieser on April 3, 2015 6:01PM
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  • 1ne2woBe
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    Egonieser wrote: »
    This post is nothing but a show-off of your new system - congrats (although nothing impressive), but please keep these sort of useless posts to yourself if you have no idea what you are talking about or have nothing useful to advise people with. This is a tech support forum not "Show us your Rig" forum.
    There are plenty websites and forums where you can show-off your brand new rig where it is actually relevant.

    I have listed EXACTLY what I had had to do in order to run the game EXACTLY as it should be played. Don't get butt-hurt if you still have problems with your MORE impressive system than what I had to pay for! I payed for what were the best deals for what I was hoping to accomplish in order to play this damn game I have paid for month to month since BETA. And was hoping someone (other than you obviously) may look upon to upgrade one or perhaps two of their system requirements.

    Get off your high-horse, get some self respect, show a bit of class and integrity, and put a bit of thought into the specs provided rather than running your diarrhea of the mouth comments assuming the post had ANYTHING to do with (E-*** games).

    Thanks.

    EDIT: BTW - You have NO idea what I have been dealing with when it comes to this game, nor the time neither! You have NO idea how many reports, techs, emails, etc., I have gone through since 1.5! THIS is thus far what I been needing to get me back into the game.
    Edited by 1ne2woBe on April 3, 2015 6:16PM
  • Dekkameron
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    I find it funny that someone links a Radeon GPU in regards to making things crash less...
    - Veteran Combat Librarian -
  • 1ne2woBe
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    Dekkameron wrote: »
    I find it funny that someone links a Radeon GPU in regards to making things crash less...

    ... And yet it works?
  • ginoboehm
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    my pc is better and it sill crashes
  • stewart.leslie76b16_ESO
    Congratulations for building your own pc, but not all problems are down to the hardware used by the player. Every person in the world could have the most expensive piece of hardware in the world that could perform the most outrageous of tasks, but there are still variables outside the players control which cause more problems.
    I, as a loyal member of the Foamy Cult, do solemnly swear to live a logical life free of stupidity, ignorance and all round jack assery. I shall do my best to enlighten those in need of Squirrelly Wisdom in hope of one day ridding the world of human idiocy. This I swear.
  • dramsb14_ESO
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    @1ne2woBe, congrats on the new build. Please let us know if the problem returns.
  • 1ne2woBe
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    Congratulations for building your own pc, but not all problems are down to the hardware used by the player. Every person in the world could have the most expensive piece of hardware in the world that could perform the most outrageous of tasks, but there are still variables outside the players control which cause more problems.

    OK, listen... Where did the fact of "I payed sooo much, and I have the beeeest system ever" come from (other than the first reply)? I suppose I did not make myself clear enough within my original post. The point I am getting (or attempting) to is the fact that I had to upgrade my system (and the amount of money I had to fork over) in order to play this game as I did prior to 1.5.

    And, thank you for the 'congratulations' (no sarcasm intended). It actually is my very first time building a computer by myself (with help from guildies via TS3 with my noob-ass questions). Actually doing research upon the ESO forums of what people had/had not have that may have caused specific problems that I have been dealing with for months. Researching among other forums complaining about the same issues we all have been since patch 1.5. Comparing my PC I have been playing ESO on and it's specs to other's whom have had the same troubles as I have. I had come to a conclusion. And wanted to share, along with links, as well as the prices in order to help.

    I understand not all problems are down to just the hardware. ESO tech support kept trying to convince me that ATT and Comcast were not getting though, or something or another they were telling me... (basically telling me it was my provider whom was the problem for something or another).

    I simply made a thread letting everyone (celebrating if you wish) that I have found a solution...

  • Hookgrin
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    That's a nice rig and at a great price. I built a high end rig to deal with a poor performing MMO back in 2009. ESO gave it a workout but it lost a memory slot on the board revealing a memory issue with ESO. I bought a nearly top of the line rig recently because the memory restriction was driving me crazy. My wife's rig was a good one bought back in 2009 and should have been more than adequate to run ESO but her GPU's temp would soar to the point of forced shut down. She insisted that if I get something new she gets at least the same level so we got identical nearly top of the line rigs last December. She also wanted turnkey, she knows how long I tinker with stuff and did not want to wait that long, so it cost me!

    But this rig could do so much more with ESO than the old rig. And like the OP says, it makes a huge difference and fixes a lot of issues.

    But it is not the solution. Not very many people can afford such beasts so ESO needs to run better on lower level machines than it does now. And I'd say about 20% of the issues out there still exist on high end rigs because they are either server side problems, coding problems, or system interaction problems that no amount of processing power is going to fix.

    I feel one of the biggest issues for my rig right now it ESO's insistence on allocating just 2 gigs of memory and then trying to function within that space. I see signs that a lot of the issues out there right now are caused by this restriction and that ESO is having its own issues with it since update 6 has pushed its memory usage right up to that 2 gig limit.

    About 80% of the time I lock up, lag, crash, black screen or whatever, my memory stats for ESO show that its peak working memory exceeded 2 gig. Even when it approaches and passes 1.9 gig it starts acting up and the chances of those things happening starts to go up. I can actually forestall those issues by quitting to the desktop and relaunching. They have memory management issues and memory leak issues and those in the confines of 2 gigs is causing a lot of their problems. They need to allow the game to allocate more memory in systems that have more, and this would relieve a lot these issues for a lot of people.

    But I would guess that 2 gig was a self imposed limit they chose to work within so as to run on more systems and therefore the code probably would need to be written in places to allow a larger workspace. But I bet they may be regretting that decision, if not they should be because I don't know if they realize how much of an issue this is for them.

    As far as other non-memory related issues, having more processing power, especially in the GPU and GPU/main bus bandwidth, does make a huge difference. But I know a larger number of the player base will have the point of view that they should not have to spend all this money to play ESO, that ZOS needs to make the game run on their system.

    I hope ZOS does not go the route of other MMOs and start downgrading the graphics to run on vanilla systems. Dumbing down graphics is a bad idea. It was a contributing factor to the death of the MMO I was playing and I will not shell out any amount of money in subs or crowns to pay for a dumbed down game. They need to write more efficient code and use efficient auto graphics level adjusting, not take away the quality for those of us who have invested in seeing ESO run at its full potential. I have already seen some signs that they have been toying with this.
  • Nurmi
    Nurmi
    Dekkameron wrote: »
    I find it funny that someone links a Radeon GPU in regards to making things crash less...

    Actually my friend with 970 is beating my frames with 2x 290's, but he is getting that crashing. For some reason I can't get more than 30fps at ESO which is just sad.
  • 1ne2woBe
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    Hookgrin wrote: »
    Not very many people can afford such beasts so ESO needs to run better on lower level machines than it does now. And I'd say about 20% of the issues out there still exist on high end rigs because they are either server side problems, coding problems, or system interaction problems that no amount of processing power is going to fix.

    I feel one of the biggest issues for my rig right now it ESO's insistence on allocating just 2 gigs of memory and then trying to function within that space. I see signs that a lot of the issues out there right now are caused by this restriction and that ESO is having its own issues with it since update 6 has pushed its memory usage right up to that 2 gig limit.

    Not attempting to be contradicting, nor disagreeing. However just from a learning standpoint... As you have read from prior posts, "@Egonieser - i have 3x the system you listed and more", and " @ginoboehm - my pc is better and it sill crashes". These users claim to have the best of the best computer hardware wise (at least better than what I chose to purchase), and yet still complain (while attempting to degrade someone whom has fixed their own problems via purchasing specific hardware and upgrading to Win 64).

    For me, I simply upgraded. I spent more than I feel I should have in order to play a game that played just fine when It came out. I'll breakdown my upgrade. This is what I was playing on from BETA 'till yesterday:

    Win 32
    AMD Athlon II x640 3.00 ghz
    4gb RAM (mushkin Silverline)
    ASUS GeForce GTX 760
    ASUS 4A785-M motherboard
    Corsair TX750M

    From as you can see, my system was pretty outdated, and would need an overhaul anyway. However, this build still exceeded the minimal requirements in order to play the game. Now, I'm not sure what the stipulations are for "playing the game", versus "enjoying while playing the game". However, when purchasing this game last year, and playing this game for almost a year was enjoyable, it quickly did not become enjoyable, as well as hardly playable towards the end.

    So (for me) it was a hardware overhaul that was needed. Perhaps some key components that worked better together with other key components that also worked well with what ZOS was doing with the software, versus other ways people are building their own rigs today? Don't get me wrong. I have shared the same horror stories with everyone upon this page, along with the past 3 pages within this sub-forum.

    So, basically... People with these "high end rigs" still complaining, where I with this low end, 1/3 of a system that other's have nonchalantly mentioned, can now finally play the game. Played for over 10 hours straight. Not a damn thing went wrong (yet). I wanted to kiss my TV (more than I usually do within a one day period)! I'm not saying ESO/ZOS is off the hook at all. In my eyes, they have duped me. Reeled me in within this franchise that I fell in love with. I started auto paying in 3 month increments, started having fun... and then slowly it started getting less fun as more and more reports I had to keep filling out due to crashes, and the black screens, and.... etc., etc..
  • Tashira
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    What is interesting in reading these posts is that I notice most of the problems are with those of us that are running Nvidia GPU cards... I noticed he is now running a AMD Radeon GPU

    Am I correct in what I have been reading or do we still have the same issue with people and Radeon cards as well?
  • Egonieser
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    1ne2woBe wrote: »
    Hookgrin wrote: »
    Not very many people can afford such beasts so ESO needs to run better on lower level machines than it does now. And I'd say about 20% of the issues out there still exist on high end rigs because they are either server side problems, coding problems, or system interaction problems that no amount of processing power is going to fix.

    I feel one of the biggest issues for my rig right now it ESO's insistence on allocating just 2 gigs of memory and then trying to function within that space. I see signs that a lot of the issues out there right now are caused by this restriction and that ESO is having its own issues with it since update 6 has pushed its memory usage right up to that 2 gig limit.

    Not attempting to be contradicting, nor disagreeing. However just from a learning standpoint... As you have read from prior posts, "@Egonieser - i have 3x the system you listed and more", and " @ginoboehm - my pc is better and it sill crashes". These users claim to have the best of the best computer hardware wise (at least better than what I chose to purchase), and yet still complain (while attempting to degrade someone whom has fixed their own problems via purchasing specific hardware and upgrading to Win 64).

    For me, I simply upgraded. I spent more than I feel I should have in order to play a game that played just fine when It came out. I'll breakdown my upgrade. This is what I was playing on from BETA 'till yesterday:

    Win 32
    AMD Athlon II x640 3.00 ghz
    4gb RAM (mushkin Silverline)
    ASUS GeForce GTX 760
    ASUS 4A785-M motherboard
    Corsair TX750M

    From as you can see, my system was pretty outdated, and would need an overhaul anyway. However, this build still exceeded the minimal requirements in order to play the game. Now, I'm not sure what the stipulations are for "playing the game", versus "enjoying while playing the game". However, when purchasing this game last year, and playing this game for almost a year was enjoyable, it quickly did not become enjoyable, as well as hardly playable towards the end.

    So (for me) it was a hardware overhaul that was needed. Perhaps some key components that worked better together with other key components that also worked well with what ZOS was doing with the software, versus other ways people are building their own rigs today? Don't get me wrong. I have shared the same horror stories with everyone upon this page, along with the past 3 pages within this sub-forum.

    So, basically... People with these "high end rigs" still complaining, where I with this low end, 1/3 of a system that other's have nonchalantly mentioned, can now finally play the game. Played for over 10 hours straight. Not a damn thing went wrong (yet). I wanted to kiss my TV (more than I usually do within a one day period)! I'm not saying ESO/ZOS is off the hook at all. In my eyes, they have duped me. Reeled me in within this franchise that I fell in love with. I started auto paying in 3 month increments, started having fun... and then slowly it started getting less fun as more and more reports I had to keep filling out due to crashes, and the black screens, and.... etc., etc..

    I think you are entirely missing the point!

    People with high end rigs complaining is what the whole issue is about! I didn't mention that my hardware is more powerful to belittle you, believe me, as a professional PC builder and programmer i know how rewarding it feels to build it from scratch and see the work and money poured into it become worthwhile. That is not the issue however.

    By reading your topic, I (and many others i believe) come to a conclusion that the solution to all game's problems is upgrading the PC, you even provide links from the shop... I mean really... there's no need for it in the first place, because the way you constructed your post is something you put on Tomshardware... Sure - there are MANY issues that arise from having a low-end system, yes, nobody is arguing about that. But that does not, however, fix the main issues almost majority of people have. Many have high end computers and many have issues with it. So does that mean they should upgrade? Is it their hardware at fault? Or do they need links to newegg to find it? I very much doubt it... They played without issues until a certain update and then all hell broke loose. And people are sick of the "Get a good PC" comeback (many of them have been thrown around when people complain about issues).

    Your issues obviously were due to lackluster system, an upgrade solved it - good for you.
    Does that help others who don't need such a solution? Very unlikely. Will that help the bad coding of client? Laggy game servers and netcode? Very unlikely.
    I myself don't suffer much lag as such, i play 4k ultra (Downsampled) with SweetFX and ESOlauncher on 50-60 FPS (excluding cyrodiil), and yes i am proud of that fact, why shouldn't i be? But the glitches, crashes since 1.6-2.0 made the game totally unplayable. And no - upgrading my hardware will not solve the issue. Only ZoS can solve it. I've tried numerous fixes and tweaks on my end to come to a conclusion that it's out of my hands. Which is why posts like this only contribute to the rage and outcry people experience. We need solutions. This is not a solution. Time will come when you probably encounter a bug or crash, i haven't met someone who hasn't encountered it post-1.6. Some get it more, some less, but generally, most people do.

    Maybe you found the magical golden setup that works and the game seems to be optimized for, who knows. But please, don't say that it's THE Solution, because it's not. It's a 1-time fluke at best, doesn't mean others will have such luck...

    I don't mean to be disrespectful and I apologize if i sounded like it, but when i came across your topic on the forums list, the way it's composed makes it sound like you found the magical fix that would cure all ailments, i didn't expect to come across a load of shop links for a PC setup. That is not a fix or a solution that belongs in a tech support. I'm sure if people play on rigs that are below recommended requirements know themselves that upgrading might help, it's pretty much obvious. That does not apply to the rest of us.

    Maybe edit your title to something like "A PC setup that works great with ESO" as a advisory topic for people who might be looking to upgrade, because that is the only time it will come useful..

    Edited by Egonieser on April 3, 2015 9:58PM
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    Egonieser - v16 Nord Stamina Dragonborn Wannabe
    Endoly - v16 Tiny Redguard Sharpened MaceBlade
    Egosalina - v16 Breton Cheesus Beam Specialist
    Egowen - v16 Dunmer Whipping Expert (Riding crops eluded her)
    (Yes, I had to grind all these to v16)
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    Targos Icewind - lvl 34 Imperial (Future) Jabplar
    (CP 830+)

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  • Hookgrin
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    Hi 1ne2woBe, I did not mean to sound like I was disagreeing with you at all, I am on your side here. I am impressed with the nice rig you designed there and that you have had a solid first time build, kudos! And I am even happier for you that the game is running so good for you now.

    I was just filling in the gap that got created between your experience and the comments of the "ZOS is crap" crowd by sharing my experience with the community which is in between and basically making sure that anyone considering doing the same knows that their results may vary. And then I went on to shamelessly hijack the thread a little and use it to let ZOS know that the unique perspective that you and I and others have reveals some issues with their software, that you need quite a machine to run it properly and that even that is not always enough. And that those of us that have made such an investment in this game hope that ZOS does not devalue it in any way in the future.

    It is a shame that you had to go on the defensive just for making an informative post. I think the folks are very sensitive to bragging and any comment like "I got a xxxx" or "I did xxxx" sets some of them off. But at the same time I understand people are upset with the fact that the game has so many issues and tempers flare. Mine too.

    It all goes to show that no matter how "better" one computer is over another, there are so many factors (drivers, installed software, OS versions and patches etc.) that come into play as to whether any given piece of software will run on it. And yes, some software runs more solidly on more machines than others. (was that veiled enough? Too much? We're looking at you ZOS!)

    Happy that you are enjoying the game now as it was meant to be experienced. And here's hoping your interest charges are not killing you as much as mine! And do like I do and wipe those lip marks off your monitor, people might think you were looking at something else.
  • Orchish
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    Building a new PC solved your latency issues? Lies.
  • SapphireThunder
    I have almost similar build. Except I have a 990X chipset motherboard instead of 970.
    Also got liquid-cooling (Corsair Hydro H100i)
    Only 8Gb RAM (for now)
    no SSD
    GTX 970.


    Latency (almost 200ms latency) and fps (struggling in getting 50-60fps) is a big problem.Loading times are long but that would be fixed with SSD, if I would get one. (but waiting until can get 480-512Gb for acceptable price).
    Never have gotten crashes.
    Edited by SapphireThunder on April 3, 2015 11:14PM
  • Nurmi
    Nurmi
    Tashira wrote: »
    What is interesting in reading these posts is that I notice most of the problems are with those of us that are running Nvidia GPU cards... I noticed he is now running a AMD Radeon GPU

    Am I correct in what I have been reading or do we still have the same issue with people and Radeon cards as well?

    No crashing with my AMD cards, fps is just quarter of Nvidia one.
    I have almost similar build. Except I have a 990X chipset motherboard instead of 970.
    Also got liquid-cooling (Corsair Hydro H100i)
    Only 8Gb RAM (for now)
    no SSD
    GTX 970.


    Latency (almost 200ms latency) and fps (struggling in getting 50-60fps) is a big problem.Loading times are long but that would be fixed with SSD, if I would get one. (but waiting until can get 480-512Gb for acceptable price).
    Never have gotten crashes.

    I don't think thats struggling, my friend is also getting similar 970 fps with far worse cpu, and his latency is under 100ms.
    But yes I agree that 200ms is simply too much, and its actually hard to beat stuff like that.

    Have myself
    FX-8370 @ 4.5GHz
    2x 290 Tri-X
    HyperX 3k 240gb & Samsung 850 Evo 250gb SSD's
    80, 120, 220ms depending from the mood?

    Struggling to stay even 30fps, at the current zone its 23fps at the lonely waypoint, now thats struggling! :s
    Edited by Nurmi on April 4, 2015 12:31AM
  • stewart.leslie76b16_ESO
    I'm using a HP Pavilion g7 Notebook PC (cost a fraction to what you paid for your upgrades (you really don't want to know what I'm using for cooling)), and been using the same machine for gaming a couple of years now. Problems, meh lag and overheating (but I have a working solution), not due to performance of my machine but down to the performance of a little thing called the internet.

    If I'm lucky enough to come into a windfall of cash, I've already eyed up a lovely looking gaming machine to buy. The game will look amazing on, still going to get lag though because I doubt I will have enough money to upgrade the whole internet and I certainly know BT Wholesale will not let me anywhere near their equipment to do it.

    Did I say anything that states "I payed sooo much, and I have the beeeest system ever" ? No, I made what's commonly called a general comment about not all problems is down to the user equipment. However, I will take it that I was the last post you after reading all the others, so you decided to take your frustration out on me.

    Just one more thing, about lag. I did a little research on how to cause lag in this game. To be honest, I couldn't find anything. However I did find plenty of companies that were more then willing to provide a service that connects me to ESO servers at optimal connection speed. Surely this spits in the face of NET NEUTRALITY and for the company to gain a profit from providing that service surely they must come up with a reason for customers to come to them... Just something to mull over.
    Edited by stewart.leslie76b16_ESO on April 4, 2015 5:19AM
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  • LameoveR
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    I must say, that "long load times" don't have any relationship to SSD/HDD.
    If you take a look at your HDD activity during zone loading, you'll see that there is almost no activity. OFC if you have 8+gb ram. If not, it will(!) load your HDD, cause it uses swapfile instead of your low RAM.


    Oh, sorry for my bad english.
    Edited by LameoveR on April 4, 2015 5:08AM
  • ginoboehm
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    1ne2woBe wrote: »
    Hookgrin wrote: »
    Not very many people can afford such beasts so ESO needs to run better on lower level machines than it does now. And I'd say about 20% of the issues out there still exist on high end rigs because they are either server side problems, coding problems, or system interaction problems that no amount of processing power is going to fix.

    I feel one of the biggest issues for my rig right now it ESO's insistence on allocating just 2 gigs of memory and then trying to function within that space. I see signs that a lot of the issues out there right now are caused by this restriction and that ESO is having its own issues with it since update 6 has pushed its memory usage right up to that 2 gig limit.

    Not attempting to be contradicting, nor disagreeing. However just from a learning standpoint... As you have read from prior posts, "@Egonieser - i have 3x the system you listed and more", and " @ginoboehm - my pc is better and it sill crashes". These users claim to have the best of the best computer hardware wise (at least better than what I chose to purchase), and yet still complain (while attempting to degrade someone whom has fixed their own problems via purchasing specific hardware and upgrading to Win 64).

    For me, I simply upgraded. I spent more than I feel I should have in order to play a game that played just fine when It came out. I'll breakdown my upgrade. This is what I was playing on from BETA 'till yesterday:

    Win 32
    AMD Athlon II x640 3.00 ghz
    4gb RAM (mushkin Silverline)
    ASUS GeForce GTX 760
    ASUS 4A785-M motherboard
    Corsair TX750M

    From as you can see, my system was pretty outdated, and would need an overhaul anyway. However, this build still exceeded the minimal requirements in order to play the game. Now, I'm not sure what the stipulations are for "playing the game", versus "enjoying while playing the game". However, when purchasing this game last year, and playing this game for almost a year was enjoyable, it quickly did not become enjoyable, as well as hardly playable towards the end.

    So (for me) it was a hardware overhaul that was needed. Perhaps some key components that worked better together with other key components that also worked well with what ZOS was doing with the software, versus other ways people are building their own rigs today? Don't get me wrong. I have shared the same horror stories with everyone upon this page, along with the past 3 pages within this sub-forum.

    So, basically... People with these "high end rigs" still complaining, where I with this low end, 1/3 of a system that other's have nonchalantly mentioned, can now finally play the game. Played for over 10 hours straight. Not a damn thing went wrong (yet). I wanted to kiss my TV (more than I usually do within a one day period)! I'm not saying ESO/ZOS is off the hook at all. In my eyes, they have duped me. Reeled me in within this franchise that I fell in love with. I started auto paying in 3 month increments, started having fun... and then slowly it started getting less fun as more and more reports I had to keep filling out due to crashes, and the black screens, and.... etc., etc..
    Yeah but how does your post help ? Look your post suggests that people complaining about latency issues crashes and freezes should upgrade which will most of the time simply not help I just said that while it is nice to have a good pc the issues are most likely not hardware related (at least not power wise)
  • SapphireThunder
    Nurmi wrote: »

    I don't think thats struggling, my friend is also getting similar 970 fps with far worse cpu, and his latency is under 100ms.
    But yes I agree that 200ms is simply too much, and its actually hard to beat stuff like that.

    Have myself
    FX-8370 @ 4.5GHz
    2x 290 Tri-X
    HyperX 3k 240gb & Samsung 850 Evo 250gb SSD's
    80, 120, 220ms depending from the mood?

    Struggling to stay even 30fps, at the current zone its 23fps at the lonely waypoint, now thats struggling! :s

    GTX970 SHOULDN'T get that low fps in game of this quality level in the first place. The Ultra settings are not even demanding. A GTX970 should run them at easy 80-100fps. Since I can run The Crew at stable 60fps (capped to 60fps, can't go higher) at all Ultra and easy 50-60 fps on Assassin's Creed Unity at Ultra.

    As for your struggling, do you have Minimap by Fyrakiin addon or similar by any chance? I noticed it killed a lot fps when I used it (getting 20-40fps depending of area)
    Edited by SapphireThunder on April 4, 2015 9:38AM
  • Nurmi
    Nurmi
    Nurmi wrote: »

    I don't think thats struggling, my friend is also getting similar 970 fps with far worse cpu, and his latency is under 100ms.
    But yes I agree that 200ms is simply too much, and its actually hard to beat stuff like that.

    Have myself
    FX-8370 @ 4.5GHz
    2x 290 Tri-X
    HyperX 3k 240gb & Samsung 850 Evo 250gb SSD's
    80, 120, 220ms depending from the mood?

    Struggling to stay even 30fps, at the current zone its 23fps at the lonely waypoint, now thats struggling! :s

    GTX970 SHOULDN'T get that low fps in game of this quality level in the first place. The Ultra settings are not even demanding. A GTX970 should run them at easy 80-100fps. Since I can run The Crew at stable 60fps (capped to 60fps, can't go higher) at all Ultra and easy 50-60 fps on Assassin's Creed Unity at Ultra.

    As for your struggling, do you have Minimap by Fyrakiin addon or similar by any chance? I noticed it killed a lot fps when I used it (getting 20-40fps depending of area)

    I am, but it makes zero difference for me that which addons do I use, what settings do I turn down "apart from the windowed or fullscreen", or even that do I play at 1080 or 1440p. They all make 0-2fps differences.. :neutral:
    Edited by Nurmi on April 4, 2015 10:54AM
  • SapphireThunder
    Nurmi wrote: »
    I am, but it makes zero difference for me that which addons do I use, what settings do I turn down "apart from the windowed or fullscreen", or even that do I play at 1080 or 1440p. They all make 0-2fps differences.. :neutral:

    So you have tried to have it disabled yet still receive that bad fps?
  • Nurmi
    Nurmi
    Nurmi wrote: »
    I am, but it makes zero difference for me that which addons do I use, what settings do I turn down "apart from the windowed or fullscreen", or even that do I play at 1080 or 1440p. They all make 0-2fps differences.. :neutral:

    So you have tried to have it disabled yet still receive that bad fps?

    Yes
  • The_Death_Princess
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    You can look at my rig in my sig. I will confirm that I dont crash like other say, while using Nvidia. My crashes now come with 2.03 and have to deal with interacts in the environment.

    Never in cyrodil. Least almost never. Once in a great while when the lagsploiters hit their on switch I crash. Maybe one in 100 times. The other 99 times various guild buddies say they crashed when they hit that button.
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  • Cry_Wolfe
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    1ne2woBe wrote: »

    EDIT: BTW - You have NO idea what I have been dealing with when it comes to this game, nor the time neither! You have NO idea how many reports, techs, emails, etc., I have gone through since 1.5! THIS is thus far what I been needing to get me back into the game.

    perhaps if you'd actually listed the issues you'd been having, as well as your solution, then people wouldn't have confused your OP as some sort of epeen flexing exercise :blush:
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    You can look at my rig in my sig. I will confirm that I dont crash like other say, while using Nvidia. My crashes now come with 2.03 and have to deal with interacts in the environment.

    Never in cyrodil. Least almost never. Once in a great while when the lagsploiters hit their on switch I crash. Maybe one in 100 times. The other 99 times various guild buddies say they crashed when they hit that button.

    Totally off topic @The_Death_Princess but how has that Logitech held up? I have a super ancient Microsoft one like that (wired) that I love... But I saw so many people say the lmb gave out on that Logitech mouse.
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  • 1ne2woBe
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    I ALMOST allowed this to be buried due to it's been 3 days since the last post. This is my first time logging in (approximately 168hrs) since I created this post. (TBO, I'm surprised this thread was not locked up. Thank you ESO for allowing us to speak and perhaps figure out something maybe something via hardware that may be causing some problems). I have read, and re-read a few posts to make sure to answer questions, and give a bit more insight...


    @dramsb14_ESO: Thank you. It was most certainly a great self accomplishment. Thank you sir.

    @Tashira: Yes, I have switched from Nvidia to Radeon. As a matter of fact... prior to 1.5 (when the game ran it's best until 1.5 came out), I was using a Radeon GPU as well, with no problems too. However, the game was much lighter then too. But, who knows? Thanks for your comments friend.

    @Egonieser: And yet, you still do not get my OP, as well as the defining post regarding the OP of mine. This has NOTHING to do with the amount of money, nor the performance... HOWEVER, perhaps... the COMPONENTS within may be THE QUESTION?!?!?!?! I don't care how you misconstrued my OP, nor my title. Seriously, troll somewhere else buddy. Your money, your rig, your credentials, your resume, etc., is not providing anything positive within this thread/discussion.

    @Hookgrin: No problem, and I absolutely agree buddy. I absolutely agree something is going on within ZOS, and each and every single update. I'm really hoping someone is reading and taking attention to what my previous system was compared to now, and figuring out what they may be able to do in order to get things they way they were prior to 1.5. I have no ill feelings regarding your reply @Hookgrin. Thank you for your comment and feed back buddy.

    @Orchish: Meh, OK... As you can tell (and you are so smart and cunning with your words to point out) that I am not very computer intuitive. So, with my feeble mind, all I can say is that I was told that latency could be measured via an in-game UI. I had "enabled" this UI prior to my build, and I was hitting 999+ (RED) numerous times. And, post new build... all seems to be fine now. Crazy huh? "Fine" is subjective I suppose? I'm not sure. I have no idea, nor have I asked what the 'proper' number is that I should be attempting to receive for the in-game UI latency number. All I know is... I am no long in the (RED) zone, nor anywhere close to +999 anymore. So, with this bit of information, I hope you strive to find out how:
    Orchish wrote: »
    Building a new PC solved your latency issues? Lies.
    Good luck with that buddy....

    @SapphireThunder: My loading times were very long even with my 120gb SSD. I'm not sure if that may help, but I have no idea how long your loading times were compared to my times. I went from SSD to another SSD, and found them now at least 75% faster when changing from toon to toon. 50-60FPS,... I'm not sure that's a problem these days. I've heard/read many can hardly keep that. Do your guildies say they can keep better FPS consistently? I'd talk to my guildies, and get everyone's opinions and outcomes. Mine certainly helped me out. Good luck buddy!

    @Nurmi: Wow! With the little knowledge I have via PC's, I still know your system is well built! And it's sad to see your numbers buddy! :( I wish you luck my friend!

    @stewart.leslie76b16_ESO: LOL, No problem buddy. Though I am actually kinda interested LOL. I did not target, nor single you out. As you can see, I took the time to read everyone's comments, and replied to each, or included each as needed to make a point within a post. As for Net Neutrality... Make sure to vote for the correct person next time, or the correct person now if you are now able to vote. It's not about Left, nor Right, it's about freedom, and whom is in control... or always wants to be in control. I wish you luck with your next build buddy!

    @LameoveR: I agree buddy. As you can see via my previous replies within this post. I'm glad you had noticed it too. Thank you for your contributions, and I believe you spoke very well. :)

    @ginoboehm: As I have already said too... I have had the exact same issues as half of the posts within this sub-forum (PC TECHNICAL SUPPORT). You may do your own research (if possible) and look at all the threads I have created from the time update 1.5 came out, till the date I had created this thread. If you are bored one night, I am more than willing to provide all the details within the back to forth emails I have had with ZOS support as well. You read the title, and assume. And yet not take the time to consider? To think? To step back and say to yourself, "Oh, wow. I see where he came from, and see what he did in order to prevent much of what most of us have been dealing with since 1.5 launched."? So yes, I believe my post has a bit of information for some to help them. For you? It does not matter. It sounds like you'd never take the information to heart, nor consideration anyway... I still wish you luck though.

    @HarryWolfe: I absolutely see and agree with what you are saying. However, with such a statement, I notice you do not frequent this sub-forum very often. If you had, you'd notice a few threads, as well as MANY posts made by me via this subject. You'd also notice many threads and posts regarding the crashes, black screens, and reports needed to be filled after such (which I have mentioned within this thread). However, in your defense, if I too had not read this whole thread, I'd come to the same conclusion. Problems = Re: ( Post: #12 - April 3). Solution = Re: (Post: #1 - April 3). Hope that helps kind sir.

    Well, so... yet nobody has come to a real conclusion of what's going on. I thought there was a bit of something via the Nvidia vs. Radeon... However not a whole lot to back it up. I have mentioned my Nvidia vs Radeon prior/post update 1.5 experience if that may help. I can get more detailed if someone feels it may be upon a specific path, and/or may help figure something out.
  • SapphireThunder
    I don't belong in any guild nor do any of my friends play, so I can't say. Also I have no friends in game.
    So I'm quite full on Solo Player.
    My load times are fairly long (at least at initial login on character, it being around 30-40 seconds).
    As for fps, even if everyone has low fps, it is still a problem. Especially if it's on high-end pc.

    I found a "fix" on my fps problems, though it results in lower fps in the world but higher in towns.
    Kind of balancing the difference so that fps won't change so drastically.

    The fix for me was to put the game on 4K resolution. So now I'm playing at 3840x2160. Instead of 1920x1080, 2560x1440 or 2715x1527. Of course game looks great, fps is lowish, but it's more stable, making the overall gaming experience more enjoyable. (though getting stable 60fps would be preferrable)
    Edited by SapphireThunder on April 10, 2015 8:40AM
  • 1ne2woBe
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    I don't belong in any guild nor do any of my friends play, so I can't say. Also I have no friends in game.
    So I'm quite full on Solo Player.
    My load times are fairly long (at least at initial login on character, it being around 30-40 seconds).
    As for fps, even if everyone has low fps, it is still a problem. Especially if it's on high-end pc.

    Hey there @SapphireThunder! That sounds like the same times I had too prior to this set up. Perhaps different CPU now? I think my PSU was OK before, so that should not have been a problem. But who knows. :(

    Well, I too normally 'play' solo, however I do enjoy helping many within the game may it be making gear for my guildies/friends, trials if/when they need someone to fill a spot, and always there for scheduled events (if I sign up in time). But, much like you, I am a solo player when I do quests (once again, I do not PVP). Also, having a good guild brings a good amount of gold too by selling what you pick up too ;). One of my guilds seriously helped me out on a NOOB problem. (This is so embarrassing) I was looking ALLLL over for the opposite gender connector for my PSU MOLEX plug from the cases main board (on/off/reset/USB/etc). LOL, I found it at the top of the same MOLEX plug which was in my hand THE WHOLE TIME. I just never looked at it close enough to see it had both female and male ends. My guildies had to point that out to me. Trust me, I did many kicks to own's ass after that (and much deserved). lol
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