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NB - need self heal or quick way to unlock vigour

jelliedsoup
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Ok, I have played since day 1 and had 2 months out. But am sick of the healing options other classes get, unless I kill someone in 3 seconds, I'm rooted.

I'm a NB without a self heal, and I'm level 8 assault, so still ages away from unlocking Vigour. Is there a quick way to get there? Or ZOS can just give a change class option, I'm not going to miss the NB skills too much anyway.
Edited by jelliedsoup on April 2, 2015 11:27PM
www.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=Ks8_KGHqmO4
  • grimsfield
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    Switch to magicka. Self heal all day.
  • jelliedsoup
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    Can't bring myself to do it. I never played magicka even when stam was really gimped.
    www.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=Ks8_KGHqmO4
  • dwtdwtdwt
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    I play a stam NB too. And you're right- Unless I kill a player within 5 seconds, I have to cloak and GTFO because I don't have the self-heal to compete with the other classes. And as a stamina-based NB, using Strife just doesn't do enough damage to make the heal worthwhile.
    "Only the dead have seen the end of war." -Plato
  • Nifty2g
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    rally?
    #MOREORBS
  • jelliedsoup
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    Yeah rally helps a little, but 1000 per tick ain't enough.
    www.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=Ks8_KGHqmO4
  • Suru
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    Yeah rally helps a little, but 1000 per tick yain't enough.

    After 5 seconds to 10 seconds if you reactivate iits a 10k+ heal. Its not hard to prebuff. It lasts like 25 seconds. You obv dont know the skill.

    Wait even longer its a 15k+ heal Nd more if you reactivate and upon reactivation it rebuffs.
    Edited by Suru on April 3, 2015 12:33AM


    Suru
  • Worstluck
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    Rally is good, but it's available to everyone who uses a 2h. Refreshing path? Still crap after a year. Killer's blade is nice, but you've to get your target low. As a stam build there are not many good skills to self heal.

    This issue may be solved with spellcrafting...but that may still be a ways out.
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  • dylanjaygrobbelaarb16_ESO
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    Play in a group with healers for start. And you level much faster in a group that wipes others more often than getting wiped compared to solo. Much faster. I reccomend you start networking and playing with PvP guilds. Right now high stam sustain playing support/ DPs is very good in groups.
  • dylanjaygrobbelaarb16_ESO
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    Play in a group with healers for start. And you level much faster in a group that wipes others more often than getting wiped compared to solo. Much faster. I reccomend you start networking and playing with PvP guilds. Right now high stam sustain playing support/ DPs is very good in groups.
  • jelliedsoup
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    Suru wrote: »
    Yeah rally helps a little, but 1000 per tick yain't enough.

    After 5 seconds to 10 seconds if you reactivate iits a 10k+ heal. Its not hard to prebuff. It lasts like 25 seconds. You obv dont know the skill.

    Wait even longer its a 15k+ heal Nd more if you reactivate and upon reactivation it rebuffs.

    You're right, I never used the rally morph, only forward momentum.. TY I will give it a shot.
    www.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=Ks8_KGHqmO4
  • ThatNeonZebraAgain
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    You know, we used to have powerful self-heals in the form of potions, which could be used as fast as every 15 seconds. But we all know where that went (especially for us Argonian NBs :( ). It seems this class nuance was lost on ZOS when they gave us that rather useless replacement for Catalyst's Potion Effectiveness. They need to change that passive back to something that helps with our burst healing. I would say something boosting health potions, but there's already a Champion Point passive for that...
    Edited by ThatNeonZebraAgain on April 3, 2015 12:55AM
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  • Folkb
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    Also add the fact that the "stelathy" class doesn't really out stealth the other classes.
  • jelliedsoup
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    Yeah the devs aren't really that keen on NBS. I would have expected our dps and stealth to be superior, given the lack of our easily accessible heals.
    www.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=Ks8_KGHqmO4
  • Varicite
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    Suru wrote: »
    Yeah rally helps a little, but 1000 per tick yain't enough.

    After 5 seconds to 10 seconds if you reactivate iits a 10k+ heal. Its not hard to prebuff. It lasts like 25 seconds. You obv dont know the skill.

    Wait even longer its a 15k+ heal Nd more if you reactivate and upon reactivation it rebuffs.

    Sometimes you don't have 5-10 seconds to wait while being smashed by someone w/ CC immunity up. That's kind of the issue he's talking about here. Personally, I'm positive that I'd kill a Stamblade in less than 5 seconds if I've got them to the point that they're trying to spam Rally.

    Cloak is useless against most players worth their salt who are running detect pots.

    I can understand the OP's issues, though I've always just accepted that as part of the class that I picked. Better defensives should probably be in order, imo.
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