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Interesing game, but...

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Really started to enjoy playing the game, since I started on The Aldmeri Dominion side as a bosmer female. Love playing as a theif or nightblade, but I wouldn't steal anything unless there a reason to. Anyway watching the cinema videos and it was very interesting videos and someday was hoping they would make a movie out of that. What was bothering me is that Queen Ayrenn look totally different from the cinema compare to ingame character and that make me feel less interesting playing the game. She had darker hairs, no? In game she had white.

The justice systems, still need some more work, when the game first came out I wasn't happy with it at all and stopped playing it. So they finally added this non-subscription, so you can play for free and though about giving this game another try. Least it is better now, but still need some works in this game. First of all, dealing with piety thieves is getting crazy. I remember one time I walked into this building during quest line, and there was a lot of thieves stealing stuffs from boxes, crates, bags, etcs. Good lord, that must been a brady bunch in there. What they can do is having emote when a player spot another players that trying to steal or commit a crime by typing in /guards, but the target players must be high lighted and guards would have to be nearby to hear the player shout.

I was hoping they would add barber shops in the game, so players can change their hairstyles, etcs. Finding items in bags, crates is kinda funny when you find a two-handed sword that doesn't fit in that thing lol.
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    Forgot to mention, since it wont let me edit this post, if the players been using the emotes too many times calling the guards, instead the guards will arrest the player for abusing it. Unless you come up with a better idea.
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    Uh, queen Ayrenn is in the cinematic? Where?
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    Really started to enjoy playing the game, since I started on The Aldmeri Dominion side as a bosmer female. Love playing as a theif or nightblade, but I wouldn't steal anything unless there a reason to. ...
    The Rite of Theft

    The Rite of Theft is a cherished Bosmeri custom, though one which outsiders have trouble appreciating.[65] The Bosmer steal from each other, and upon return of the stolen item, they demand a boon commensurate to the item's worth.[66] In ancient times, the Bosmer Vanirion the Thief was renowned for demanding over two hundred payments after invoking the Rite.[64] In more modern times, the Bosmer of Greenshade are particularly infamous for their thievery.[45]

    http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Bosmer

    The Altmer in the cinematic trailers is not Ayrenn tho.
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    The elf in the cinematic trailers is not Ayrenn.
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  • SpireofSouls
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    Ah just wondering, was talking about this in general chat and most was upset about it and we all though that was her in that cinema.
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    Elf from Cinematics:
    vlcsnap-2015-01-23-02h21m57s137_zps2hozcotw.png

    Queen Ayrenn
    Screenshot_20140416_181038_zpsd2effbd4.png


    The Cinematic Elf is the hotter of the two.. just sayin..

    But I don't think the Elf in the cinematic was ever suppose to be Ayrenn. I do wonder if they have named her though.
    Far too many characters to list any more.
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    The Justice System is still just in phase 1. There will be improvements. Patience.
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    Cool, they should make some movies out of these cinemas, they have talents for making them. I be happy to throw in 15.99 for a an hour and half video, if they do a good job and good story.
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    There is no more phase 2 @WraithAzraiel if I understood correctly and I'm just gonna paraphrase "no more justice system phase 2 with pvp. People cried to much so we listened" is what was said on eso live lol
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    Cool, they should make some movies out of these cinemas, they have talents for making them. I be happy to throw in 15.99 for a an hour and half video, if they do a good job and good story.

    Yea 15 a month was too much huh
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    Gorthax wrote: »
    There is no more phase 2 @WraithAzraiel if I understood correctly and I'm just gonna paraphrase "no more justice system phase 2 with pvp. People cried to much so we listened" is what was said on eso live lol

    When? Where? Why are you apparently the only one who heard this?
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    What they can do is having emote when a player spot another players that trying to steal or commit a crime by typing in /guards, but the target players must be high lighted and guards would have to be nearby to hear the player shout.
    That would basically turn the Justice System into PvP with invincible guards, and given the fact that players can't hide from each other in PvE using stealth, would effectively put an end to crime in Tamriel and pour a lot of hard development work down the drain.

    It would also give players yet another reason to avoid each other in the game world, as competitive resource nodes and quest objectives already do.

    So, probably not likely to happen. ;)






    Edited by Majic on March 29, 2015 11:55AM
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  • Gorthax
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    Gorthax wrote: »
    There is no more phase 2 @WraithAzraiel if I understood correctly and I'm just gonna paraphrase "no more justice system phase 2 with pvp. People cried to much so we listened" is what was said on eso live lol

    When? Where? Why are you apparently the only one who heard this?

    let me go pull up the recap for you

    "http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/161291/eso-live-27-3-what-do-you-think-about-zos-vision-on-pvp&quot;

    thats the discussion thread that was started after the show.
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    PVP system will be implemented which is much better than your emote idea.
    Then you can also actively fight crime.

    It is not Ayrenn in the video and is it really true that most people thought that? When asking general chat none seem to think it was her in the video, so maybe it is just you.
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  • Gorthax
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    Gorthax wrote: »
    There is no more phase 2 @WraithAzraiel if I understood correctly and I'm just gonna paraphrase "no more justice system phase 2 with pvp. People cried to much so we listened" is what was said on eso live lol

    When? Where? Why are you apparently the only one who heard this?

    @nerevarine1138 1:26:09 is the time to listen if this copy time point from youtube dont work

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-a9mhGBCmls

    any pvp outside of cyordill is "not in the cards right now"

    [Moderator Note: edited YouTube link]
    Edited by ZOS_MichelleA on March 29, 2015 3:41PM
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    BlackEar wrote: »
    PVP system will be implemented which is much better than your emote idea.
    Then you can also actively fight crime.

    It is not Ayrenn in the video and is it really true that most people thought that? When asking general chat none seem to think it was her in the video, so maybe it is just you.

    @BlackEar might want to think again about pvp outisde of cyrodill. see my post for why
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    Gorthax wrote: »
    Gorthax wrote: »
    There is no more phase 2 @WraithAzraiel if I understood correctly and I'm just gonna paraphrase "no more justice system phase 2 with pvp. People cried to much so we listened" is what was said on eso live lol

    When? Where? Why are you apparently the only one who heard this?

    let me go pull up the recap for you

    "http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/161291/eso-live-27-3-what-do-you-think-about-zos-vision-on-pvp&quot;

    thats the discussion thread that was started after the show.


    The risk of hearsay. Wheeler's statements ZoS weren't planning other PvP formats outside of Cyrodiil was in response to player requests for things like battlegrounds, arena's, dueling formats........ that kind of thing. The justice system wasn't mentioned at all. I don't even think it's within his remit.
    Please stop making requests for game features. ZOS have enough bad ideas as it is!
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    Gorthax wrote: »
    There is no more phase 2 @WraithAzraiel if I understood correctly and I'm just gonna paraphrase "no more justice system phase 2 with pvp. People cried to much so we listened" is what was said on eso live lol

    ESO advertised me a game where my PvP contributions would provide meaningful benefit to other players and my alliance.

    The community and development plans keep making me feel like a freak, an outcast, and a second class citizen for even participating in PvP though.

    :(
    Edited by Samadhi on March 29, 2015 12:42PM
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    Nebthet78 wrote: »
    The Cinematic Elf is the hotter of the two.. just sayin..
    But I don't think the Elf in the cinematic was ever suppose to be Ayrenn. I do wonder if they have named her though.

    Her name is Peta Wilson. Or possibly Amy Smart.
    (Seriously, the features are so close to Peta Wilson's that it might be intentional.)
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    Nebthet78 wrote: »
    Elf from Cinematics:
    vlcsnap-2015-01-23-02h21m57s137_zps2hozcotw.png

    Queen Ayrenn
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    The Cinematic Elf is the hotter of the two.. just sayin..

    But I don't think the Elf in the cinematic was ever suppose to be Ayrenn. I do wonder if they have named her though.

    I think the figure of her is called "Altmer Hero"
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    Gorthax wrote: »
    BlackEar wrote: »
    PVP system will be implemented which is much better than your emote idea.
    Then you can also actively fight crime.

    It is not Ayrenn in the video and is it really true that most people thought that? When asking general chat none seem to think it was her in the video, so maybe it is just you.

    @BlackEar might want to think again about pvp outisde of cyrodill. see my post for why

    That is a shame. I would still rather wait than a solution that is only temporary and haven't been thoroughly tested.
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    Muizer wrote: »
    Gorthax wrote: »
    Gorthax wrote: »
    There is no more phase 2 @WraithAzraiel if I understood correctly and I'm just gonna paraphrase "no more justice system phase 2 with pvp. People cried to much so we listened" is what was said on eso live lol

    When? Where? Why are you apparently the only one who heard this?

    let me go pull up the recap for you

    "http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/161291/eso-live-27-3-what-do-you-think-about-zos-vision-on-pvp&quot;

    thats the discussion thread that was started after the show.


    The risk of hearsay. Wheeler's statements ZoS weren't planning other PvP formats outside of Cyrodiil was in response to player requests for things like battlegrounds, arena's, dueling formats........ that kind of thing. The justice system wasn't mentioned at all. I don't even think it's within his remit.

    @Muizer he might or might not have anything to do with the enforcer side, but it was stated in the AMA on reddit:

    "This remains to be determined - I've been pretty clear that PvP justice is pretty scary from a game balance perspective, and we need to be very careful how we implement it. If/when it makes it in to the game, it will not be as part of a paid DLC."

    the IF word they chose to use is scary, and when it comes to ZoS we learn we really need to read between the lines. Then couple that with all the people crying about dont bring it to the game......well we see where that got us with b2p, you know, when they listened to the people (the ones crying on FB to make it free to play). Call it a wild shot in the dark, but I dont think we will see it. I do, however, HOPE we see it as i dont partake in stealing or killing npcs but would LOVE to kill players who do :)
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    Nebthet78 wrote: »
    Elf from Cinematics:
    vlcsnap-2015-01-23-02h21m57s137_zps2hozcotw.png

    Queen Ayrenn
    Screenshot_20140416_181038_zpsd2effbd4.png


    The Cinematic Elf is the hotter of the two.. just sayin..

    But I don't think the Elf in the cinematic was ever suppose to be Ayrenn. I do wonder if they have named her though.

    But AD gets Kate . I hate AD for this . I want Kate . Kate would never play a frilly Elf in a movie . She'd be a badass Brenton Vampire . Oh Kate ..... Why didn't you team up with Victor , your Underworld costar (King Emeric) , an join DC ? Then I'd give AD Steve Bloom to listen too all the time ....

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    Gorthax wrote: »
    Cool, they should make some movies out of these cinemas, they have talents for making them. I be happy to throw in 15.99 for a an hour and half video, if they do a good job and good story.

    Yea 15 a month was too much huh

    Heh wasn't talking about subbing the game, would like to watch a movie on dvd.
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    Nebthet78 wrote: »
    But I don't think the Elf in the cinematic was ever suppose to be Ayrenn. I do wonder if they have named her though.

    This is an interesting question. I can't see that the team that made the trailer just referred to this character in generic terms. I wonder if she has a formal, or informal, name. It would be a crime if it was "Altmer Hero" and nothing more.
    Muizer wrote: »
    The risk of hearsay. Wheeler's statements ZoS weren't planning other PvP formats outside of Cyrodiil was in response to player requests for things like battlegrounds, arena's, dueling formats........ that kind of thing. The justice system wasn't mentioned at all. I don't even think it's within his remit.

    I agree.

    Wheeler is very open and upfront about what is going on, for someone in his position. The Cyrodiil players are lucky to have him. I sense that he is constantly checking himself against speaking for what others are doing, mostly Wrobel (combat). He would not be the one to talk about Justice System and would probably stop himself and scope his answers accordingly.

    The systems person for Justice System has already made noises that we are not done seeing big changes there, but they were very vague about what is coming. While not specifically referring to PVP, she did talk about "social elements" of the system in the context of unspecified future changes. I will cherry pick a few specific lines that I feel are in the context of this discussion. The entire quote talks about theft, which is not what this topic is about.
    This system is designed to be augmented in the future with more social elements, and we anticipate that players will become more mindful of the laws in Tamriel.

    Justice as a fully integrated system like Champion, Combat, and Crafting. It is critical to future content in the game, and we want players to learn how to live with the underlying rules of the system before introducing heavier mechanics and related content.

    Take it for what you will. It does not say that PVP is still on the table, but it certainly says something big is intended. You can read whatever you want into "social elements" and "heavier mechanics." This could refer to a snitch system where we can report players who steal, pickpocket, and murder, it could refer to actual combat between players, or it could mean both and more. Whether, or when, we see this can be debated until it arrives.
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    Gorthax wrote: »
    Muizer wrote: »
    Gorthax wrote: »
    Gorthax wrote: »
    There is no more phase 2 @WraithAzraiel if I understood correctly and I'm just gonna paraphrase "no more justice system phase 2 with pvp. People cried to much so we listened" is what was said on eso live lol

    When? Where? Why are you apparently the only one who heard this?

    let me go pull up the recap for you

    "http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/161291/eso-live-27-3-what-do-you-think-about-zos-vision-on-pvp&quot;

    thats the discussion thread that was started after the show.


    The risk of hearsay. Wheeler's statements ZoS weren't planning other PvP formats outside of Cyrodiil was in response to player requests for things like battlegrounds, arena's, dueling formats........ that kind of thing. The justice system wasn't mentioned at all. I don't even think it's within his remit.

    @Muizer he might or might not have anything to do with the enforcer side, but it was stated in the AMA on reddit:

    "This remains to be determined - I've been pretty clear that PvP justice is pretty scary from a game balance perspective, and we need to be very careful how we implement it. If/when it makes it in to the game, it will not be as part of a paid DLC."

    the IF word they chose to use is scary, and when it comes to ZoS we learn we really need to read between the lines. Then couple that with all the people crying about dont bring it to the game......well we see where that got us with b2p, you know, when they listened to the people (the ones crying on FB to make it free to play). Call it a wild shot in the dark, but I dont think we will see it. I do, however, HOPE we see it as i dont partake in stealing or killing npcs but would LOVE to kill players who do :)

    No idea what an AMA is. Anyway, just saying it wasn't discussed in eso-live. Not explicitly and not implicitly either.

    Please stop making requests for game features. ZOS have enough bad ideas as it is!
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    Nebthet78 wrote: »


    The Cinematic Elf is the hotter of the two.. just sayin..

    But I don't think the Elf in the cinematic was ever suppose to be Ayrenn. I do wonder if they have named her though.

    More likely the sort of vague representation of the player, just as the 'dragonborn' from Skyrim cinematic.
    Edited by theweakminded on March 29, 2015 5:23PM
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    Muizer wrote: »
    Gorthax wrote: »
    Muizer wrote: »
    Gorthax wrote: »
    Gorthax wrote: »
    There is no more phase 2 @WraithAzraiel if I understood correctly and I'm just gonna paraphrase "no more justice system phase 2 with pvp. People cried to much so we listened" is what was said on eso live lol

    When? Where? Why are you apparently the only one who heard this?

    let me go pull up the recap for you

    "http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/161291/eso-live-27-3-what-do-you-think-about-zos-vision-on-pvp&quot;

    thats the discussion thread that was started after the show.


    The risk of hearsay. Wheeler's statements ZoS weren't planning other PvP formats outside of Cyrodiil was in response to player requests for things like battlegrounds, arena's, dueling formats........ that kind of thing. The justice system wasn't mentioned at all. I don't even think it's within his remit.

    @Muizer he might or might not have anything to do with the enforcer side, but it was stated in the AMA on reddit:

    "This remains to be determined - I've been pretty clear that PvP justice is pretty scary from a game balance perspective, and we need to be very careful how we implement it. If/when it makes it in to the game, it will not be as part of a paid DLC."

    the IF word they chose to use is scary, and when it comes to ZoS we learn we really need to read between the lines. Then couple that with all the people crying about dont bring it to the game......well we see where that got us with b2p, you know, when they listened to the people (the ones crying on FB to make it free to play). Call it a wild shot in the dark, but I dont think we will see it. I do, however, HOPE we see it as i dont partake in stealing or killing npcs but would LOVE to kill players who do :)

    No idea what an AMA is. Anyway, just saying it wasn't discussed in eso-live. Not explicitly and not implicitly either.

    AMA stands for Ask Me Anything.

    That's the apparent new internet word for Q&A.
    Edited by WraithAzraiel on March 30, 2015 12:05AM
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  • AngryNord
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    Roechacca wrote: »
    Nebthet78 wrote: »
    Elf from Cinematics:
    vlcsnap-2015-01-23-02h21m57s137_zps2hozcotw.png

    Queen Ayrenn
    Screenshot_20140416_181038_zpsd2effbd4.png


    The Cinematic Elf is the hotter of the two.. just sayin..

    But I don't think the Elf in the cinematic was ever suppose to be Ayrenn. I do wonder if they have named her though.

    But AD gets Kate . I hate AD for this . I want Kate . Kate would never play a frilly Elf in a movie . She'd be a badass Brenton Vampire . Oh Kate ..... Why didn't you team up with Victor , your Underworld costar (King Emeric) , an join DC ? Then I'd give AD Steve Bloom to listen too all the time ....

    3319_Kate-Beckinsale_TR-WEB800px.jpg

    Now THAT's a ***
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