That "Tamriel Unlimited" tag...

ItsGlaive
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Just looks so unnecessary on the launcher. It's too much. Elder Scrolls Online Tamriel Unlimited. Really?! It's online and it's unlimited?! Wow!

Sorry for the sarcasm, but was it really necessary? Couldn't we have just stuck with Elder Scrolls Online?
Edited by ItsGlaive on March 16, 2015 6:31PM
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  • LtCrunch
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    When someone sees the "Tamriel Unlimited" tag that's been added they will realize something has changed. It's marketing, plain and simple. Just like when Final Fantasy XIV added the "A Realm Reborn" tagline.
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  • Louis
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    it doesnt really bother me that much, i just want the server back on
    alot of people look at this signature, i guess youre one of them.
  • lightningjacb14_ESO
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    Tamriel Unlimited sounds too edgy and modern
  • Seraphyel
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    Brandalf wrote: »
    When someone sees the "Tamriel Unlimited" tag that's been added they will realize something has changed. It's marketing, plain and simple. Just like when Final Fantasy XIV added the "A Realm Reborn" tagline.

    Excuse me Sir,

    FF XIV ARR is an entire new game and totally different from FF XIV.

    Tamriel Unlimited is just a new name for the same product.
  • MW2K
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    Especially when there's nothing unlimited about it. I can't even visit Vvardenfell or Labyrinthian in game!
    Lighting braziers and dispelling wards in Tamriel since 1994
  • Mr.Hmm
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    Guess you NA folks will be in-game before us EU folks
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  • Roechacca
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    Elder scrolls online tamriel unlimited plus epic crown store adventure ? It's a working title ... Maybe re re launch 3.01 title
  • ijacksparrowed
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    People will literally complain about anything...
  • LtCrunch
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    Seraphyel wrote: »
    Brandalf wrote: »
    When someone sees the "Tamriel Unlimited" tag that's been added they will realize something has changed. It's marketing, plain and simple. Just like when Final Fantasy XIV added the "A Realm Reborn" tagline.

    Excuse me Sir,

    FF XIV ARR is an entire new game and totally different from FF XIV.

    Tamriel Unlimited is just a new name for the same product.

    It was a re-launch, there may have been more changes to the foundation of the game but that doesn't make it any different really. Both games were updated/re-worked/improved and both games did a re-launch with a console version. It's about as similar as a situation can get.

    Edited by LtCrunch on March 16, 2015 6:44PM
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  • Rosveen
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    It could be worse, it could be Unchained.
  • Kalfis
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    It's this unknown thing called marketing that is causing you this trouble.
  • Roechacca
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    Rosveen wrote: »
    It could be worse, it could be Unchained.

    Or Unleashed
  • ItsGlaive
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    Mr.Hmm wrote: »
    Guess you NA folks will be in-game before us EU folks

    I'm EU so I won't be in any quicker than you, they have updated our launcher though :)
    People will literally complain about anything...

    I'm a writer and I've done my fair share of content marketing too, marketing "innovations" like the new subtitle really make me groan because they're tacky, unnecessary and copied way too often. Sorry it's professional taste.
    Edited by ItsGlaive on March 16, 2015 6:43PM
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  • Gidorick
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    I'm OK with it but I do hope it's just a "chapter" and later it will change again.

    1: Elder Scrolls Online
    2: Tamriel Unlimited
    3: Seige on Oblivion
    4: Rise of the Divines
    5: Heroes of Nirn
    Etc...
    Etc...

    What ESO really needs is an Auction Horse.
    That's right... Horse.
    Click HERE to discuss.

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  • LtCrunch
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    Gidorick wrote: »
    I'm OK with it but I do hope it's just a "chapter" and later it will change again.

    1: Elder Scrolls Online
    2: Tamriel Unlimited
    3: Seige on Oblivion
    4: Rise of the Divines
    5: Heroes of Nirn
    Etc...
    Etc...
    This could be the case. We might see new taglines with each major DLC release.
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  • Kre
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    "THATS WHAT YOU WORRY ABOUT!"
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    I'll stab you. I'll stab you until your dead. Then, I will stab you again. Just to be sure that your dead.
  • Seraphyel
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    Brandalf wrote: »
    Seraphyel wrote: »
    Brandalf wrote: »
    When someone sees the "Tamriel Unlimited" tag that's been added they will realize something has changed. It's marketing, plain and simple. Just like when Final Fantasy XIV added the "A Realm Reborn" tagline.

    Excuse me Sir,

    FF XIV ARR is an entire new game and totally different from FF XIV.

    Tamriel Unlimited is just a new name for the same product.

    It was a re-launch, there may have been more changes to the foundation of the game but that doesn't make it any different really. Both games were updated/re-worked/improved and both games did a re-launch with a console version. It's about as similar as a situation can get.

    It was a relaunch, but the game was an entire remake. They took the lore and the races, but all of the other stuff was developed entirely new. New classes, new zones, new dungeons, new raids, new PvP, everything new. And yes, it makes it different.

    ESO has got some debugging and little new content, that's it. To compare FF XIV ARR relaunch with the "TU" rebranding is ridiculous. ESO has got the normal patch cycle in its first year but that doesn't make it a new product. FF XIV has been offline for more than a year to get revamped.
    Edited by Seraphyel on March 16, 2015 6:48PM
  • zeuseason
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    It's like "Red Bull give you wings"
  • klopferian
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    You know what sounds refreshing right now?

    A nice big glass of ice cold New Coke...

    oh, wait...

    :o
    Edited by klopferian on March 16, 2015 6:48PM
  • ItsGlaive
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    zeuseason wrote: »
    It's like "Red Bull give you wings"

    Not really. That's a strap line, not the full name of the product.

    It's the habit of gaming companies who think when they change to a diff sub model they have to throw more adjectives onto the title. Online was more than enough. "Elder Scrolls Online: Tamriel Unlimited" is a mouthful even for someone with a big gob like me ;)
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  • LtCrunch
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    Seraphyel wrote: »
    Brandalf wrote: »
    Seraphyel wrote: »
    Brandalf wrote: »
    When someone sees the "Tamriel Unlimited" tag that's been added they will realize something has changed. It's marketing, plain and simple. Just like when Final Fantasy XIV added the "A Realm Reborn" tagline.

    Excuse me Sir,

    FF XIV ARR is an entire new game and totally different from FF XIV.

    Tamriel Unlimited is just a new name for the same product.

    It was a re-launch, there may have been more changes to the foundation of the game but that doesn't make it any different really. Both games were updated/re-worked/improved and both games did a re-launch with a console version. It's about as similar as a situation can get.

    It was a relaunch, but the game was an entire remake. They took the lore and the races, but all of the other stuff was developed entirely new. New classes, new zones, new dungeons, new raids, new PvP, everything new. And yes, it makes it different.

    ESO has got some debugging and little new content, that's it. To compare FF XIV ARR relaunch with the "TU" rebranding is ridiculous. ESO has got the normal patch cycle in its first year but that doesn't make it a new product. FF XIV has been offline for more than a year to get revamped.

    Just because they had to change more doesn't make it any different in my eyes. The original version of FFXIV at launch was recognized as one of the worst games ever made, while ESO had( and still does) it's problems it never hit that territory. The only difference is that ESO had a good foundation to build upon and FFXIV did not.

    Both games launched with issues and a received lackluster or worse reception at launch. Both games were improved upon immensely and re-launched. I think you're just splitting hairs here honestly. The only real difference is that the devs of FFXIV f*cked up worse at launch than ZOS did.

    Edited by LtCrunch on March 16, 2015 6:58PM
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  • karmamule
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    People will literally complain about anything...

    Perhaps "Tamriel Unlimited" refers to the complaining?

    Complaining is the metagame that is wrapped around the actual game.
  • Mr.Hmm
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    Gidorick wrote: »
    I'm OK with it but I do hope it's just a "chapter" and later it will change again.

    1: Elder Scrolls Online
    2: Tamriel Unlimited
    3: Seige on Oblivion
    4: Rise of the Divines
    5: Heroes of Nirn
    Etc...
    Etc...

    there is a high chance you are right but no concrete info :(
    If I die tomorrow I do not want to think of the game I could of played today, therefor I will play whatever I want today while securing a future to play in as well.

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  • ItsGlaive
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    Mr.Hmm wrote: »
    Gidorick wrote: »
    I'm OK with it but I do hope it's just a "chapter" and later it will change again.

    1: Elder Scrolls Online
    2: Tamriel Unlimited
    3: Seige on Oblivion
    4: Rise of the Divines
    5: Heroes of Nirn
    Etc...
    Etc...

    there is a high chance you are right but no concrete info :(

    That is something I could get behind. It'd be the only scenario I can think of where lengthening the title might actually be necessary.
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  • Gidorick
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    Brandalf wrote: »
    Gidorick wrote: »
    I'm OK with it but I do hope it's just a "chapter" and later it will change again.

    1: Elder Scrolls Online
    2: Tamriel Unlimited
    3: Seige on Oblivion
    4: Rise of the Divines
    5: Heroes of Nirn
    Etc...
    Etc...
    This could be the case. We might see new taglines with each major DLC release.

    Well, personally, I hope we have DLC.... and then full boxed expansions (but maybe without the box)... I kind of go through that here: http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/149340/what-i-hope-tamriel-unlimited-means/p1
    What ESO really needs is an Auction Horse.
    That's right... Horse.
    Click HERE to discuss.

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  • Seraphyel
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    Brandalf wrote: »
    Just because they had to change more doesn't make it any different in my eyes. The original version of FFXIV at launch was recognized as one of the worst games ever made, while ESO had( and still does) it's problems it never hit that territory. The only difference is that ESO had a good foundation to build upon and FFXIV did not.

    Both games launched with issues and a received lackluster or worse reception at launch. Both games were improved upon immensely and re-launched. I think you're just splitting hairs here honestly. he only real difference is that the devs of FFXIV f*cked up worse at launch than ZOS did.

    I think you have no ideas what SquareEnix had to do to make FF XIV (ARR) work.

    You are right, FF XIV was a disaster and SE had to do much more, but you can't compare the work they spent on improving FF XIV and the work Zenimax spent on improving ESO. You can't compare it, the whole situation is totally different.

    Zenimax did what in the last 11 months? Maybe 1/10 of the things SE need to do and ESO Now is still worse than FF XIV ARR Now. That's it.

    Just because you add one zone, a dungeon, a new progression system and some bug fixes you are not "relaunching" your game, you are just updating it. Tamriel Unlimited is by no means a relaunch. FF XIV ARR was a relaunch, ESO TU isn't. It's just renaming a product that's still exactly the same. It's like I would rename my car model just because I added new seat covers.
  • Zorvan
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    Brandalf wrote: »
    When someone sees the "Tamriel Unlimited" tag that's been added they will realize something has changed. It's marketing, plain and simple. Just like when Final Fantasy XIV added the "A Realm Reborn" tagline.

    Except FFXIV A Realm Reborn was actually a reborn game. Nothing changes between "Elder Scrolls Online" and "Elder Scrolls Online Tamriel Unlimited" except the addition of a cash shop and a new name.
    Brandalf wrote: »
    Seraphyel wrote: »
    Brandalf wrote: »
    When someone sees the "Tamriel Unlimited" tag that's been added they will realize something has changed. It's marketing, plain and simple. Just like when Final Fantasy XIV added the "A Realm Reborn" tagline.

    Excuse me Sir,

    FF XIV ARR is an entire new game and totally different from FF XIV.

    Tamriel Unlimited is just a new name for the same product.

    It was a re-launch, there may have been more changes to the foundation of the game but that doesn't make it any different really. Both games were updated/re-worked/improved and both games did a re-launch with a console version. It's about as similar as a situation can get.

    You're seriously fooling yourself if you think A Realm Reborn was just a "few foundation changes". The difference between FFXIV and FFXIV A Realm Reborn was night and day. Taamriel Unlimited is not comparable in ANY way, shape, or form.
    Edited by Zorvan on March 16, 2015 7:04PM
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  • ItsGlaive
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    Gidorick wrote: »
    Brandalf wrote: »
    Gidorick wrote: »
    I'm OK with it but I do hope it's just a "chapter" and later it will change again.

    1: Elder Scrolls Online
    2: Tamriel Unlimited
    3: Seige on Oblivion
    4: Rise of the Divines
    5: Heroes of Nirn
    Etc...
    Etc...
    This could be the case. We might see new taglines with each major DLC release.

    Well, personally, I hope we have DLC.... and then full boxed expansions (but maybe without the box)... I kind of go through that here: http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/149340/what-i-hope-tamriel-unlimited-means/p1

    We're definitely getting DLC, it'll be in the store, that's confirmed. Whether or not they say now that we'll ever get an Xpac, my money would be on it being inevitable eventually. Maybe in a year or two when they need another injection of box sales.
    Allow cross-platform transfers and merges
  • glak
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    Xabien wrote: »
    Just looks so unnecessary on the launcher. It's too much. Elder Scrolls Online Tamriel Unlimited. Really?! It's online and it's unlimited?! Wow!

    Sorry for the sarcasm, but was it really necessary? Couldn't we have just stuck with Elder Scrolls Online?
    Bag it and tag it!
  • Zorvan
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    Xabien wrote: »
    Gidorick wrote: »
    Brandalf wrote: »
    Gidorick wrote: »
    I'm OK with it but I do hope it's just a "chapter" and later it will change again.

    1: Elder Scrolls Online
    2: Tamriel Unlimited
    3: Seige on Oblivion
    4: Rise of the Divines
    5: Heroes of Nirn
    Etc...
    Etc...
    This could be the case. We might see new taglines with each major DLC release.

    Well, personally, I hope we have DLC.... and then full boxed expansions (but maybe without the box)... I kind of go through that here: http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/149340/what-i-hope-tamriel-unlimited-means/p1

    We're definitely getting DLC, it'll be in the store, that's confirmed. Whether or not they say now that we'll ever get an Xpac, my money would be on it being inevitable eventually. Maybe in a year or two when they need another injection of box sales.

    Imperial City
    Thieves Guild
    Dark Brotherhood

    Those are your upcoming "expansion dlc" packs.
    Edited by Zorvan on March 16, 2015 7:07PM
    I've been muted since November 2017 because of the whiny crybabies on this forum and the liberal ZOS employees coddling them.
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