No motifs found in Wayrest VR zone

thawt29b14_ESO

So I have been thieving in Wayrest veteran zone pretty much since 1.6 dropped and I noticed something. I have never found a single motif anywhere in Wayrest but if I go anywhere else to steal stuff I find them with some frequency. Has anyone else noticed the same thing? It really sucks because Wayrest is a great place to steal stuff.

WillhelmBlack

I've been playing since launch (a year) and have only ever found blue. i.e racial motifs. Now if there has been more added I wouldn't know as I've mostly been finding lock picks and Childs drums.

thawt29b14_ESO

Before 1.6 I used to find them frequently without even really trying. But now after 1.6 in Wayrest I haven't found a single one but if I go anywhere else but Wayrest I start finding them again. And I am talking about blue motifs not purple. I haven't found a purple motif since launch. Dwemer Motifs don't count since those are easy to find in Dwemer ruins.

Shadesofkin

I know someone recently found an Imperial and lost it because a Guard caught them (they had a bad rep). So I imagine they're still around, but I have noticed they're a little less frequent than I thought previously. That could just be that I'm not longer looting every poor suckers home.

Soriana

Usually when I go to Wayrest all of the containers are empty, like drawers open, cabinets open empty. Every.single.one.

I stopped going because it was a waste of time.

thawt29b14_ESO

Yes I know that motifs are still around. I have looted them since 1.6 dropped everywhere but Wayrest. I only want to know if anyone else has experienced the same thing in Wayrest after 1.6 was released. Not anywhere else.

kelly.medleyb14_ESO

Look harder.

thawt29b14_ESO

It's not a question of how hard I look... Obviously. It's a question of whether or not Motifs are in the loot table in Wayrest VR zone. That is what I am curious about. What other people's experiences are in Wayrest VR zone.

Willyoke

As far as I know (or from my experience), you won't find any motifs in containers that are labelled 'steal'. I've found two motifs so far in normal random houses that are not labelled 'steal'. If you want any specific motif, whisper me in game, and maybe we can do a swap. I'm currently looking to trade, so, if you have any motifs (except wood elf, orc, khajit, breton, and redguard), and want to trade, whisper me in game.

traigusb14_ESO2

Just finished that zone on VR (I'm in EP, so low VR) so I was using Wayrest as my shopping town etc.

Over the last 3 days I found 3 normal (2 Nord and a Breton I think) and a Barbaric. 1 Nord and the Barbaric were stolen from upper floors of the inn. The other Nord and Breton were found in the Castle during all the quest phasing.

Zershar_Vemod

I've found 2 Imperial motifs in an under 24 hours period and a few Daedric since 1.6.

Just need to keep on trying; but I can say from my own testing, that 1/hour is no longer guaranteed.

TheShadowScout

Funny, I just found a primal motiv there yesterday (upper floor of inn, in a desk). But I think its a case of "too many thieves..." overgrazing the thievery spots a bit... I know I saw several others looking for stuff to nab while I was doing the same.

thawt29b14_ESO

Okay that would make sense

TheShadowScout wrote: »

Funny, I just found a primal motiv there yesterday (upper floor of inn, in a desk). But I think its a case of "too many thieves..." overgrazing the thievery spots a bit... I know I saw several others looking for stuff to nab while I was doing the same.

Okay that would make sense. I have been in Mournhold with my 23 sorc and have found 2 blue motifs so far while thieving stuff in the fighters guild. So the containers are not instanced then? People go through and take only blue and purple motifs?

Also I like how the some guards threaten to get the guards if I don't stop sneaking. lol

KenCleanAirSystem

No, containers are instanced, and unless someone has actual hard evidence to support it, I'd say that the number of people farming any given place for motifs has absolutely no bearing on your chances of finding them. Just like the theory that leaving all the anchor pins until the end increases your chance of a general spawning at a dolmen, it is a rumor ... RNG is RNG is RNG.

Since 1.6 I've found motifs with about the same frequency as pre-1.6. They drop from the same containers they always have, the only difference being that instead of a thousand lockpicks, alchemy solvent, and racial stone drops to every motif, there are random Legerdemain object thrown into the mix ... some of which can be purple themselves, which may or may not slightly decrease your chance of a purple motif or recipe drop.

thawt29b14_ESO

KenCleanAirSystem wrote: »

No, containers are instanced, and unless someone has actual hard evidence to support it, I'd say that the number of people farming any given place for motifs has absolutely no bearing on your chances of finding them. Just like the theory that leaving all the anchor pins until the end increases your chance of a general spawning at a dolmen, it is a rumor ... RNG is RNG is RNG.

Since 1.6 I've found motifs with about the same frequency as pre-1.6. They drop from the same containers they always have, the only difference being that instead of a thousand lockpicks, alchemy solvent, and racial stone drops to every motif, there are random Legerdemain object thrown into the mix ... some of which can be purple themselves, which may or may not slightly decrease your chance of a purple motif or recipe drop.

Perfect! Thanks for clearing that up for me. But it still doesn't explain why I have yet to find any motifs in Wayrest but I find them everywhere else. Even though I have farmed Wayrest far more often than any other area. But maybe it could. RNG?

thawt29b14_ESO

Also another thing I have noticed is when I try to steal something and for whatever reason I can't I will leave it and come back to it later but sometimes when I do comeback to it the container is empty. Anyone else notice this?

DrOrpheus

I found 2 barbaric motiifs since 1.6 came out in wayrest, just rng being rng.

redwoodtreesprite2

Game still "curses" sometimes on containers. For example, on the European server for over a week, almost every container in Hollow City was open. On the American server, it was all normal, with the usual mix of some containers empty and most full. After a server reset/maintenance, the European server was OK again.

Once I get access to my original account on 3/17, I will see if this is account based.

Morshire

thawt29b14_ESO wrote: »

KenCleanAirSystem wrote: »

No, containers are instanced, and unless someone has actual hard evidence to support it, I'd say that the number of people farming any given place for motifs has absolutely no bearing on your chances of finding them. Just like the theory that leaving all the anchor pins until the end increases your chance of a general spawning at a dolmen, it is a rumor ... RNG is RNG is RNG.

Since 1.6 I've found motifs with about the same frequency as pre-1.6. They drop from the same containers they always have, the only difference being that instead of a thousand lockpicks, alchemy solvent, and racial stone drops to every motif, there are random Legerdemain object thrown into the mix ... some of which can be purple themselves, which may or may not slightly decrease your chance of a purple motif or recipe drop.

Perfect! Thanks for clearing that up for me. But it still doesn't explain why I have yet to find any motifs in Wayrest but I find them everywhere else. Even though I have farmed Wayrest far more often than any other area. But maybe it could. RNG?

Not much help here for this topic except this: RNG = Random Number Generator (or generating). HAHAHAHA see not a total idiot.

LIQUID741

Willyoke wrote: »

As far as I know (or from my experience), you won't find any motifs in containers that are labelled 'steal'. I've found two motifs so far in normal random houses that are not labelled 'steal'. If you want any specific motif, whisper me in game, and maybe we can do a swap. I'm currently looking to trade, so, if you have any motifs (except wood elf, orc, khajit, breton, and redguard), and want to trade, whisper me in game.

Since 1.6 found 3 Blue and one Primal along with two purp recipes on in "steal" containers. Just throwing that out there...I have found all of mine in Reaper's March and Riften btw.

thawt29b14_ESO

Alright I found my first purple motif since release day. The only bad thing was that it was in a chest that is unlootable because there is no position that I can find that makes me hidden so I can loot it. So I looted it anyway and ran for the door and needless to say I died... I really wish we were able to leave buildings after getting caught. As I have not been able to find a way I am going to assume its not possible at least for me anyway.

KenCleanAirSystem

Funny to see this thread pop back up... I was just thinking of it this morning when I found an Ancient Elf motif in the Wayrest Castle.

Zershar_Vemod

KenCleanAirSystem wrote: »

Funny to see this thread pop back up... I was just thinking of it this morning when I found an Ancient Elf motif in the Wayrest Castle.

Funny enough, I only found that one once ever.

It's usually Daedric ~99% of the time for me and Imperial maybe 1% at this point.

Xendyn

thawt29b14_ESO wrote: »

Alright I found my first purple motif since release day. The only bad thing was that it was in a chest that is unlootable because there is no position that I can find that makes me hidden so I can loot it. So I looted it anyway and ran for the door and needless to say I died... I really wish we were able to leave buildings after getting caught. As I have not been able to find a way I am going to assume its not possible at least for me anyway.

Invis/Immovable pots? That might work for you.

Grapdjan

In wayrest, or

DrOrpheus wrote: »

I found 2 barbaric motiifs since 1.6 came out in wayrest, just rng being rng.

wayrest or wayrest vr?

Preyfar

Former motif hunter here (former as of 1.6).

Oddly enough, I have found two Daedric motifs since release. One I found in town, the other in a dungeon. You can still find motifs, even Barbaric, Ancient, Deadric, etc. just by playing the game normally. Delves, dungeons and townloot still hold the motifs.

However, if you're running from container to container to container looking for them, and spending all the time being sneaky, it's going to take longer than not to find them by the way the Justice system works. Further, the loot table for those containers is so bloated due to the fencable loot that the chances of finding them goes down dramatically.

In short: if you're hunting them in towns you're going to have a bad time. If you're just playing the game normally you're more likely to find them by looting and searching everything.

Preyfar

Soriana wrote: »

Usually when I go to Wayrest all of the containers are empty, like drawers open, cabinets open empty. Every.single.one.

I stopped going because it was a waste of time.

I believe they changed how the loot system works. I tend to farm Avanchnzel for Dwemer motifs. As of 1.5, I could run the delve, log out, log back in and all the pots would be refilled. Now, they're the exact same as when I left. However, zone out, wai 15 minutes, zone back in, they're filled again (even without logging out). So there is definitely a timer in place to help tone down farming of some sort.

Takhistis

I found red guard and wood elf in Wayrest on my 39 NB
1 was in kings castle, stolen, other in a commoners house, also stolen and was trespassing