Radiant Destruction - Loving My New Skill

Brizz

I LOVE the new ability you've given my Templar (Radiant Destruction). I finally feel like I have the toolkit to put my skills on display in Cyrodiil. I don't think that it needs any adjustment, and in fact, I think that ZOS should change all of the other executes to work in a similar fashion.

NightBlade --
Assassin's Blade --
Range - 28 meters
Thrust a magic blade with lethal precision to stab an enemy for 11 Magic Damage. Causes 300% more damage to targets under 50% and heals you if target dies within two seconds of use. Cannot be dodged, reflected, blocked or otherwise.
m1: Now scales off stamina and weapon damage, damage increased based on current Stamina.
m2: Now heals for 85% of damage done.

Sorcerer --
Mages' Fury --
Call down lightning to strike an enemy for 5 Shock Damage. If target enemy's health falls below 50% within 4 seconds, an explosion deals an additional 19 Shock Damage to the target and 3 Shock Damage to other enemies nearby. Cannot be dodged, reflected, blocked or otherwise.
m1: Killing blows restore 40% Max Magicka and Health.
m2: Now Scales off stamina and weapon damage, Killing blows restore 40% Stamina and Health.

Two Handed --
Reverse Slash --
Range - 28 meters
Hurl your weapon at an enemy, dealing 8 Physical Damage plus up to 300% more against enemies below 50% health. Cannot be dodged, reflected, blocked or otherwise.
m1: Now Scales off Magicka and spell power, damage increased based on current Magicka.
m2: Weapon abilities deal more damage to low health targets.

I think that Radiant Destruction will pave the way for amazing new abilities to come in the future of this game, and would love to see more unique abilities like it ZOS. Keep up the good work

ps - I also really love the new meteor... I'm not sure why it is so much stronger but it is very fun.

Panda244

So you basically want the ability to shred people the second they drop below 50% HP

Don't get me wrong, unique morphs... And I approve of them. But I don't think "execute" range should be 50%, Radiant Destruction is an oddball, and isn't that why it's unique?

Brizz

Panda244 wrote: »

So you basically want the ability to shred people the second they drop below 50% HP

Don't get me wrong, unique morphs... And I approve of them. But I don't think "execute" range should be 50%, Radiant Destruction is an oddball, and isn't that why it's unique?

From what I understand, Radiant Destruction doesn't do its FULL damage at 50%, but rather scales stronger the more your enemies health declines. I think this is good design and makes executes a lot more versatile.

Knootewoot

Ever heard of Sarcasm. I believe the OP is sarcasm post.

Sky Chancellor

Radiant destruction is a good skill, but its not nearly as OP as people make it out to be. It's just a good dps skill when the player is low on health. It happens to be a templar skill, and so people are like.... what? Templar shot at me and killed me. I thought only Sorc could do that. But, it can be effective as an execute and contribute as a dps ability.

That's why people are complaining now with RD, it can actually help a templar in battle. Before we talked about Temp running with what dps ability biting jabs? Biting jabs is crap now because of the CC immunity it gives. We don't hear people complaining enough about how crappy it is. We just hear people talk about RD. One decent ability that might make it on some people's bar.

Gooey

Lol a channeled execute is the WORST possible idea in this game ever. It just takes one person casting Lord Jesus Beam on another guy while the other taps him lightly then...

Panda244

Brizz wrote: »

Panda244 wrote: »

So you basically want the ability to shred people the second they drop below 50% HP

Don't get me wrong, unique morphs... And I approve of them. But I don't think "execute" range should be 50%, Radiant Destruction is an oddball, and isn't that why it's unique?

From what I understand, Radiant Destruction doesn't do its FULL damage at 50%, but rather scales stronger the more your enemies health declines. I think this is good design and makes executes a lot more versatile.

This is true... But being able to hit the executes starting at 50% would at least mean they need to revamp the damage, because they don't seem to legitimately scale. The second the target drops to 25% or 20% and you execute them, I'd say about 50% of the time they just drop dead because they can't block the absurd amount of damage it does. Which understandably isn't supposed to be blocked, it's an execute... But there's been so many times I've gotten away from a fight and in the span of four seconds a DoT drops me below 25% and BAM! Mage's Wrath Explosion vaporized. Then sad Panda is sad. maybe lower the range they scale to 40-30%?

NadiusMaximus

I like it.
It shouldn't proc till 20% and they need to fix the Los on it and all other abilities.
No way should I target a guy in the open, fire, and still hit him with it through walls.
But, snipe works the same way, as many times abilities, so whatever.

Anazasi

From hence forth all references to Radiant Destruction shall come in the form of the correct morph name. It is very confusing for some players who have leveled beyond the little toys that apparently were broken. If you are referring to Radiant Oppression then please say so. If you are referring to Radian Glory please say so. If you are simply unsure of what killed you check the death recap. If you simply have 2 cents you want to toss in for the sake of feeling like you belong please drop your coins in the Abby near Brindle, otherwise just pray in silence.

olsborg

Yea, basicly what the op sais (in my belief) is that all other executes, endless fury, killers blade etc, PALE in comparison to Radiant Destruction. Unfair:(

RedTalon

I have been pondering making a Templar alt for awhile now, but was told they where only good for healing may make one now

Manoekin

RedTalon wrote: »

I have been pondering making a Templar alt for awhile now, but was told they where only good for healing may make one now

We got a single good dps skill, and now we're a DPS class eh?

Brizz

If you can't beat 'em, JOIN 'EM!

Pretty soon half of the population will be healers with Jesus beam and the rest of us will be hurling meteors at each other.

CMG138

I just got out of Cyrodiil and holy hell, there were more laser beams coming from AD than what you see at a Tool show. It's pathetic to see them spamming jesus beams and still losing. Stay green.

Huntler

CMG138 wrote: »

I just got out of Cyrodiil and holy hell, there were more laser beams coming from AD than what you see at a Tool show. It's pathetic to see them spamming jesus beams and still losing. Stay green.

The jesus beam sees your salt heathen, woe is the unbeliever who challenges the righteous.

Sypher

I just want to be able to cleanse it like the other channeled abilities. Simple as that.

Manoekin

Sypher wrote: »

I just want to be able to cleanse it like the other channeled abilities. Simple as that.

Jesus Beam cleanses you not the other way around. Repent, heretic.

tplink3r1

Panda244 wrote: »

So you basically want the ability to shred people the second they drop below 50% HP

Don't get me wrong, unique morphs... And I approve of them. But I don't think "execute" range should be 50%, Radiant Destruction is an oddball, and isn't that why it's unique?

Executer and killers blade also start at 50%.

Ezareth

I killed two templars who did nothing but spam this on me the entire time at full health the other night. I just kept my shields up and smoked them both with overload. I really don't see what the big deal with this spell is.

Panda244

tplink3r1 wrote: »

Panda244 wrote: »

So you basically want the ability to shred people the second they drop below 50% HP

Don't get me wrong, unique morphs... And I approve of them. But I don't think "execute" range should be 50%, Radiant Destruction is an oddball, and isn't that why it's unique?

Executer and killers blade also start at 50%.

What drugs are you smoking...?

Since launch "execute" range has been 25-20% HP left, not 50%. Unless they changed it with 1.6, which would be ridonk.

Brizz

Ezareth wrote: »

I killed two templars who did nothing but spam this on me the entire time at full health the other night. I just kept my shields up and smoked them both with overload. I really don't see what the big deal with this spell is.

These same amazingly skilled templars kill other builds that don't run shields. Templar X spams beam, enemys Y and Z crit charge and drop player below 50%. GG!

If you were me, Stamina Nightblade, what would you do to counter this? I use roll dodge and Dark Cloak for defensives, both of which are negated by this ability. Once templars learn that spamming the beam of glory pulls nightblades out of cloak for everyone to kill, they will spam nothing but.

Piercing mark poses the same problem for my build, and the only way I am able to counter it is to find the nightblade and kill him quickly. The problem we face is that once you see this ability, it is literally 2 seconds before you are dead. I would hate to see one ability force other players to use shields and magicka builds in order to counter.

Huntler

Brizz wrote: »

Ezareth wrote: »

I killed two templars who did nothing but spam this on me the entire time at full health the other night. I just kept my shields up and smoked them both with overload. I really don't see what the big deal with this spell is.

These same amazingly skilled templars kill other builds that don't run shields. Templar X spams beam, enemys Y and Z crit charge and drop player below 50%. GG!

If you were me, Stamina Nightblade, what would you do to counter this? I use roll dodge and Dark Cloak for defensives, both of which are negated by this ability. Once templars learn that spamming the beam of glory pulls nightblades out of cloak for everyone to kill, they will spam nothing but.

Piercing mark poses the same problem for my build, and the only way I am able to counter it is to find the nightblade and kill him quickly. The problem we face is that once you see this ability, it is literally 2 seconds before you are dead. I would hate to see one ability force other players to use shields and magicka builds in order to counter.

Dark cloak will remove radiant in the next incremental patch. Calm down friend.

CMG138

Huntler wrote: »

CMG138 wrote: »

I just got out of Cyrodiil and holy hell, there were more laser beams coming from AD than what you see at a Tool show. It's pathetic to see them spamming jesus beams and still losing. Stay green.

The jesus beam sees your salt heathen, woe is the unbeliever who challenges the righteous.

I see your jesus beam and raise you one shield bash.

KBKB

Knootewoot wrote: »

Ever heard of Sarcasm. I believe the OP is sarcasm post.

I sure hope so, It's the internet though and strange things happen.

Roechacca

Huntler wrote: »

CMG138 wrote: »

I just got out of Cyrodiil and holy hell, there were more laser beams coming from AD than what you see at a Tool show. It's pathetic to see them spamming jesus beams and still losing. Stay green.

The jesus beam sees your salt heathen, woe is the unbeliever who challenges the righteous.

The Beam is love and light , purifying the soul . Embrace the Beam and be set free .

scy22b14_ESO

Brizz wrote: »

If you can't Beam 'em, JOIN 'EM!

Pretty soon half of the population will be healers with Jesus beam and the rest of us will be hurling meteors at each other.

Fixed it for you.

tplink3r1

Panda244 wrote: »

tplink3r1 wrote: »

Panda244 wrote: »

So you basically want the ability to shred people the second they drop below 50% HP

Don't get me wrong, unique morphs... And I approve of them. But I don't think "execute" range should be 50%, Radiant Destruction is an oddball, and isn't that why it's unique?

Executer and killers blade also start at 50%.

What drugs are you smoking...?

Since launch "execute" range has been 25-20% HP left, not 50%. Unless they changed it with 1.6, which would be ridonk.

Not sure about Killers Blade, but Executer do start at 50%.

Grim13

I'm a full stam nb and my Killer's Blades and 2h Executioners only hit for 10k dmg when a target is at 25-30% health.

Radiant Destruction often approaches the 10k dmg BEFORE the target is within execute range... and hits for FAR higher in it.

I'd be all for Radiant Destruction staying the way it is if my Killer's Blade hit for 15-20k under 50% health too.

Huntler

Grim13 wrote: »

Radiant Destruction often approaches the 10k dmg BEFORE the target is within execute range... and hits for FAR higher in it.

This is not true, while technically as stated the execute starts to scale at 50%, it is not until the 30% range where you really start to do more damage compared to your other base abilities (both in burst and raw dps). I know it probably seems that way, but it is simply not true. The benefit of starting the ability around 50% is not that it scales, but that if the target takes damage from other sources he is immediately in your stronger execute range <30% and blows up.

Unless when you say 10k you mean total over the 3.6 seconds. In which case most spammable abilities do 10k damage or more over the same amount of time. I assumed you meant 10k per tick.

Grim13

Huntler wrote: »

Grim13 wrote: »

Radiant Destruction often approaches the 10k dmg BEFORE the target is within execute range... and hits for FAR higher in it.

This is not true, while technically as stated the execute starts to scale at 50%, it is not until the 30% range where you really start to do more damage compared to your other base abilities (both in burst and raw dps). I know it probably seems that way, but it is simply not true. The benefit of starting the ability around 50% is not that it scales, but that if the target takes damage from other sources he is immediately in your stronger execute range <30% and blows up.

Unless when you say 10k you mean total over the 3.6 seconds. In which case most spammable abilities do 10k damage or more over the same amount of time. I assumed you meant 10k per tick.

Spammable abilities do as much damage over the 3 seconds, sure, but they're blockable and escapable. I can run behind a building and still get hit by the *** Radiant Destruction. Until that changes, it's OP.

I am glad all you Templars (idk if you are one Huntler) are having your day in the sun, everyone deserves their moment to shine... enjoy it while it lasts, however, 'cause it won't last forever.

Huntler

Grim13 wrote: »

Huntler wrote: »

Grim13 wrote: »

Radiant Destruction often approaches the 10k dmg BEFORE the target is within execute range... and hits for FAR higher in it.

This is not true, while technically as stated the execute starts to scale at 50%, it is not until the 30% range where you really start to do more damage compared to your other base abilities (both in burst and raw dps). I know it probably seems that way, but it is simply not true. The benefit of starting the ability around 50% is not that it scales, but that if the target takes damage from other sources he is immediately in your stronger execute range <30% and blows up.

Unless when you say 10k you mean total over the 3.6 seconds. In which case most spammable abilities do 10k damage or more over the same amount of time. I assumed you meant 10k per tick.

Spammable abilities do as much damage over the 3 seconds, sure, but they're blockable and escapable. I can run behind a building and still get hit by the *** Radiant Destruction. Until that changes, it's OP.

I am glad all you Templars (idk if you are one Huntler) are having your day in the sun, everyone deserves their moment to shine... enjoy it while it lasts, however, 'cause it won't last forever.

Radiant is blockable, why do people keep claiming its not? Seriously, the amount of misinformation is half the problem here. And no, currently it won't last forever. They already fixed the scaling issue. And next incremental patch, like I said before dark cloak will also remove it. (I also assume purge will, but cannot verify that).