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I gotta say, PvP has gotten remarkably worse with this patch

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To many bugs....That shouldn't of made it off PTS....along with massive disparities that again..should not of made it off PTS.

Things like Racials should of gotten a pass if they're going to completely rework the stat system of the game...They basically gimped a good portion of the Races this past patch.

Throw in the crap like Nirnhoned, and jesus beam and this game just sucks to play.

  • Lava_Croft
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    You sound like you are (still) under the impression that PvP is something ZOS really cares about.

    I know the feeling.
  • Soulac
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    Don't forget the meteors! Meteors, meteors everywhere.
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  • Yolokin_Swagonborn
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    Lava_Croft wrote: »
    You sound like you are (still) under the impression that PvP is something ZOS really cares about.

    I know the feeling.

    First they came for our deer and I did not speak out—
    Because I was not a Deer

    Then they came for our torchbugs and I did not speak out—
    For I was not a torchbug...

    By the time they turned the Imperial City into a DLC PvE only zone,
    No one spoke out because all the PvP'ers had already left the game.
    Edited by Yolokin_Swagonborn on March 11, 2015 6:31AM
  • Lava_Croft
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    I don't even want that damn Imperial City near Cyrodiil. No way that is going to end well.
  • AbraXuSeXile
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    As someone who pvped from morning to night, I have lost total heart in this game. I have to force myself to logon, pvp is pretty much no skill needed.
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    Lag is now a real Fourth Faction .
  • Panda244
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    Soulac wrote: »
    Don't forget the meteors! Meteors, meteors everywhere.
    @Soulac
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  • Soulac
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    Panda244 wrote: »
    Soulac wrote: »
    Don't forget the meteors! Meteors, meteors everywhere.
    @Soulac
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  • Panda244
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    Soulac wrote: »
    Panda244 wrote: »
    Soulac wrote: »
    Don't forget the meteors! Meteors, meteors everywhere.
    @Soulac
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    FYI, that picture is adorable.
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    N'tel Arlena - NB - V14 - Retired Sap Tank of Haderus NA, Harasser of Many (Also, not a vampire. Goes by nickname Nutella.)

    #FreeZazeer
    #FreeGooey
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    #FreeSubtomik
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  • Samadhi
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    PvP being basically unplayable most of the time has at least given me time to upgrade my Legerdemain line.

    7 Medium + Improved Hiding 4/4 + Champion Passive should zero out my sneak costs entirely.

    Tested with Improved Hiding + 7 Medium + 3 Nightshade zeros it out to the point that my Stamina regens while moving.

    So at least there's that.
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  • Soulac
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    Panda244 wrote: »
    Soulac wrote: »
    Panda244 wrote: »
    Soulac wrote: »
    Don't forget the meteors! Meteors, meteors everywhere.
    @Soulac
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    FYI, that picture is adorable.

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  • Panda244
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    Soulac wrote: »
    Panda244 wrote: »
    Soulac wrote: »
    Panda244 wrote: »
    Soulac wrote: »
    Don't forget the meteors! Meteors, meteors everywhere.
    @Soulac
    fdf22h.jpg

    1358442169403040137.GIF
    tumblr_mi9w15yDMU1qebadgo1_500.gif
    FYI, that picture is adorable.

    Run-you-fools_o_135319.gif

    Ohshit.jpg

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  • Soulac
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    Panda244 wrote: »
    Soulac wrote: »
    Panda244 wrote: »
    Soulac wrote: »
    Panda244 wrote: »
    Soulac wrote: »
    Don't forget the meteors! Meteors, meteors everywhere.
    @Soulac
    fdf22h.jpg

    1358442169403040137.GIF
    tumblr_mi9w15yDMU1qebadgo1_500.gif
    FYI, that picture is adorable.

    Run-you-fools_o_135319.gif

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    R.I.P Dawnbreaker / Auriel´s Bow
    Member of the Arena Guild and the overpowered Banana Squad.
    Nathaerizh aka Cat - Nightblade V16 - EU

    - Meow -
  • Panda244
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    Soulac wrote: »
    Panda244 wrote: »
    Soulac wrote: »
    Panda244 wrote: »
    Soulac wrote: »
    Panda244 wrote: »
    Soulac wrote: »
    Don't forget the meteors! Meteors, meteors everywhere.
    @Soulac
    fdf22h.jpg

    1358442169403040137.GIF
    tumblr_mi9w15yDMU1qebadgo1_500.gif
    FYI, that picture is adorable.

    Run-you-fools_o_135319.gif

    Ohshit.jpg
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    Totally getting banned for this @Soulac :wink:
    Aldmeri Dominion For Life!
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    N'tel Arlena - NB - V14 - Retired Sap Tank of Haderus NA, Harasser of Many (Also, not a vampire. Goes by nickname Nutella.)

    #FreeZazeer
    #FreeGooey
    #FreeAsgari
    #FreeAoE
    #FreeSubtomik
    #FreeMBF

    Officially Resigned From Cyrodiil As Of 4/15/15 10:24 PM EST.
  • Soulac
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    Panda244 wrote: »
    Soulac wrote: »
    Panda244 wrote: »
    Soulac wrote: »
    Panda244 wrote: »
    Soulac wrote: »
    Panda244 wrote: »
    Soulac wrote: »
    Don't forget the meteors! Meteors, meteors everywhere.
    @Soulac
    fdf22h.jpg

    1358442169403040137.GIF
    tumblr_mi9w15yDMU1qebadgo1_500.gif
    FYI, that picture is adorable.

    Run-you-fools_o_135319.gif

    Ohshit.jpg
    200w.gif

    TNG142.gif
    Totally getting banned for this @Soulac :wink:

    The Lord of cats is immortal!

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    Nathaerizh aka Cat - Nightblade V16 - EU

    - Meow -
  • thelordoffelines
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    Random thought-
    ZoS decided after 1.6 in their infinite wisdom that I wanted my graphics settings on high when they are normally on medium. This was causing me to lag more than usual after 1.6. Now I dont doubt for one second lag could've gotten worse but checking if ur graphics settings changed is worth a look.
  • Etaniel
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    Random thought-
    ZoS decided after 1.6 in their infinite wisdom that I wanted my graphics settings on high when they are normally on medium. This was causing me to lag more than usual after 1.6. Now I dont doubt for one second lag could've gotten worse but checking if ur graphics settings changed is worth a look.

    Please stop confusing lag and fps drops. It's only giving the devs more opportunities to tell us everything is a client side problem, and that we should reboot our router.
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  • Panda244
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    Soulac wrote: »
    Panda244 wrote: »
    Soulac wrote: »
    Panda244 wrote: »
    Soulac wrote: »
    Panda244 wrote: »
    Soulac wrote: »
    Panda244 wrote: »
    Soulac wrote: »
    Don't forget the meteors! Meteors, meteors everywhere.
    @Soulac
    fdf22h.jpg

    1358442169403040137.GIF
    tumblr_mi9w15yDMU1qebadgo1_500.gif
    FYI, that picture is adorable.

    Run-you-fools_o_135319.gif

    Ohshit.jpg
    200w.gif

    TNG142.gif
    Totally getting banned for this @Soulac :wink:

    The Lord of cats is immortal!

    giphy.gif

    So now that the universe has been destroyed... What dimension shall lord of cats enter next?! >_>
    blackbox.jpeg

    Aldmeri Dominion For Life!
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    N'tel Arlena - NB - V14 - Retired Sap Tank of Haderus NA, Harasser of Many (Also, not a vampire. Goes by nickname Nutella.)

    #FreeZazeer
    #FreeGooey
    #FreeAsgari
    #FreeAoE
    #FreeSubtomik
    #FreeMBF

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  • Soulac
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    Panda244 wrote: »
    Soulac wrote: »
    Panda244 wrote: »
    Soulac wrote: »
    Panda244 wrote: »
    Soulac wrote: »
    Panda244 wrote: »
    Soulac wrote: »
    Panda244 wrote: »
    Soulac wrote: »
    Don't forget the meteors! Meteors, meteors everywhere.
    @Soulac
    fdf22h.jpg

    1358442169403040137.GIF
    tumblr_mi9w15yDMU1qebadgo1_500.gif
    FYI, that picture is adorable.

    Run-you-fools_o_135319.gif

    Ohshit.jpg
    200w.gif

    TNG142.gif
    Totally getting banned for this @Soulac :wink:

    The Lord of cats is immortal!

    giphy.gif

    So now that the universe has been destroyed... What dimension shall lord of cats enter next?! >_>
    blackbox.jpeg

    Idk :worried:

    R.I.P Dawnbreaker / Auriel´s Bow
    Member of the Arena Guild and the overpowered Banana Squad.
    Nathaerizh aka Cat - Nightblade V16 - EU

    - Meow -
  • Panda244
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    Soulac wrote: »
    Panda244 wrote: »
    Soulac wrote: »
    Panda244 wrote: »
    Soulac wrote: »
    Panda244 wrote: »
    Soulac wrote: »
    Panda244 wrote: »
    Soulac wrote: »
    Panda244 wrote: »
    Soulac wrote: »
    Don't forget the meteors! Meteors, meteors everywhere.
    @Soulac
    fdf22h.jpg

    1358442169403040137.GIF
    tumblr_mi9w15yDMU1qebadgo1_500.gif
    FYI, that picture is adorable.

    Run-you-fools_o_135319.gif

    Ohshit.jpg
    200w.gif

    TNG142.gif
    Totally getting banned for this @Soulac :wink:

    The Lord of cats is immortal!

    giphy.gif

    So now that the universe has been destroyed... What dimension shall lord of cats enter next?! >_>
    blackbox.jpeg

    Idk :worried:
    We can colonize the um... The uh... Well... There's always the tenth dimension...

    "In the tenth and final dimension, we arrive at the point in which everything possible and imaginable is covered. Beyond this, nothing can be imagined by us lowly mortals, which makes it the natural limitation of what we can conceive in terms of dimensions."
    Aldmeri Dominion For Life!
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    N'tel Arlena - NB - V14 - Retired Sap Tank of Haderus NA, Harasser of Many (Also, not a vampire. Goes by nickname Nutella.)

    #FreeZazeer
    #FreeGooey
    #FreeAsgari
    #FreeAoE
    #FreeSubtomik
    #FreeMBF

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  • Soulac
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    Panda244 wrote: »
    Soulac wrote: »
    Panda244 wrote: »
    Soulac wrote: »
    Panda244 wrote: »
    Soulac wrote: »
    Panda244 wrote: »
    Soulac wrote: »
    Panda244 wrote: »
    Soulac wrote: »
    Panda244 wrote: »
    Soulac wrote: »
    Don't forget the meteors! Meteors, meteors everywhere.
    @Soulac
    fdf22h.jpg

    1358442169403040137.GIF
    tumblr_mi9w15yDMU1qebadgo1_500.gif
    FYI, that picture is adorable.

    Run-you-fools_o_135319.gif

    Ohshit.jpg
    200w.gif

    TNG142.gif
    Totally getting banned for this @Soulac :wink:

    The Lord of cats is immortal!

    giphy.gif

    So now that the universe has been destroyed... What dimension shall lord of cats enter next?! >_>
    blackbox.jpeg

    Idk :worried:
    We can colonize the um... The uh... Well... There's always the tenth dimension...

    "In the tenth and final dimension, we arrive at the point in which everything possible and imaginable is covered. Beyond this, nothing can be imagined by us lowly mortals, which makes it the natural limitation of what we can conceive in terms of dimensions."

    Brilliant idea!
    *evil cat laugh*

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  • pppontus
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    With all this talk about rebooting our routers, have ZOS tried rebooting their router (or more likely firewall)? :|
    Edited by pppontus on March 11, 2015 2:28PM
  • Panda244
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    pppontus wrote: »
    With all this talk about rebooting our routers, have ZOS tried rebooting their router (or more likely firewall)? :|

    What firewall?
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    Aldmeri Dominion For Life!
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    N'tel Arlena - NB - V14 - Retired Sap Tank of Haderus NA, Harasser of Many (Also, not a vampire. Goes by nickname Nutella.)

    #FreeZazeer
    #FreeGooey
    #FreeAsgari
    #FreeAoE
    #FreeSubtomik
    #FreeMBF

    Officially Resigned From Cyrodiil As Of 4/15/15 10:24 PM EST.
  • Armitas
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    To many bugs....That shouldn't of made it off PTS....along with massive disparities that again..should not of made it off PTS.

    Things like Racials should of gotten a pass if they're going to completely rework the stat system of the game...They basically gimped a good portion of the Races this past patch.

    Throw in the crap like Nirnhoned, and jesus beam and this game just sucks to play.

    The PTS is just a waiting room for bugs while more permanent accommodations are prepared for them.
    Edited by Armitas on March 11, 2015 3:08PM
    Retired.
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  • Tintinabula
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    Fix your game..Having to relog after every death in order to get alliance tags back is unacceptable.Playing without alliance tags is impossible. Fix it.
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    This thread is awesome! Needs more meteor & cat gifs!
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    Tl;dr really weigh the fun you have in game vs the business practices you are supporting.
  • frozywozy
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    The only thing I dislike about this patch is the fact that they made it "Almost" impossible to melee fight zerg against zerg anymore. It is going to be possible again once we get enough champion points to spec accordingly. But right now, the only choice dragonknights have is a force pulse / crushing shock weaving battle.

    Heavy Armor was supposed to bring more survivability and make it possible to tank. This is not happening yet. Every class still depends on shield stacking which is magicka related.

    They should have brought new abilities from medium and heavy armor trees to increase block / dodge / evasion rating (stamina based), to compensate the lack of magicka for shield stacking.

    The other fixes are great and no matter the remaining bugs, I am satisfied of the hard work of Zenimax.

    Keep going!
    Edited by frozywozy on March 11, 2015 7:29PM
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    • Change emperorship to value faction score points and not alliance points - see this and this
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    • Add 2 more quickslots to the wheel or add a different wheel for sieges weaponry only
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    • Gives players 10 minutes to get back into Cyrodiil after relogging / crashing
    • Add a function to ignore the Claiming system of useless rewards
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    • Assign specific group sizes to specific campaigns (24-16-8)
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    • Remove Block Casting through Battle Spirit
    • Fix the speed drop while jumping - see video
    • Fix loading screens when keeps upgrade
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  • Xsorus
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    frozywozy wrote: »
    The only thing I dislike about this patch is the fact that they made it "Almost" impossible to melee fight zerg against zerg anymore. It is going to be possible again once we get enough champion points to spec accordingly. But right now, the only choice dragonknights have is a force pulse / crushing shock weaving battle.

    Heavy Armor was supposed to bring more survivability and make it possible to tank. This is not happening yet. Every class still depends on shield stacking which is magicka related.

    They should have brought new abilities from medium and heavy armor trees to increase block / dodge / evasion rating (stamina based), to compensate the lack of magicka for shield stacking.

    The other fixes are great and no matter the remaining bugs, I am satisfied of the hard work of Zenimax.

    Keep going!

    i got in a fight yesterday with a Sorc who did nothing but shield stack, I couldn't ever run him out of mana because he could just restro staff attack me over and over again getting his mana back, and since you can't bash or interrupt heavy attacks like that he could basically perma shield stack over and over again.

    of course this was how it was before the patch as well...But the shield stacking after the patch is even sillier.
  • WRX
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    frozywozy wrote: »
    The only thing I dislike about this patch is the fact that they made it "Almost" impossible to melee fight zerg against zerg anymore. It is going to be possible again once we get enough champion points to spec accordingly. But right now, the only choice dragonknights have is a force pulse / crushing shock weaving battle.

    Heavy Armor was supposed to bring more survivability and make it possible to tank. This is not happening yet. Every class still depends on shield stacking which is magicka related.

    They should have brought new abilities from medium and heavy armor trees to increase block / dodge / evasion rating (stamina based), to compensate the lack of magicka for shield stacking.

    The other fixes are great and no matter the remaining bugs, I am satisfied of the hard work of Zenimax.

    Keep going!

    Man, you should hire a build doctor or something. Builds are extremelyyy diverse now, and most Dk's I run with are significantly more tanky and pull more DPS.

    I give ZoS an A+ on their build changes.
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