Do You Actually Like to PvE?

hammayolettuce · February 2015

With the changes in 1.6, we basically have to PvE to get champion points because XP gain from PvP is abysmal. I want ZOS to be able to see the numbers for the PvP community and hopefully they will make changes so that we aren't FORCED to PvE in order to be viable in PvP.

Galalin · February 2015

No and I hate that we are forced to do PvE. Grinding should still be an option and XP gains from PvP should be adjusted.

Its BS but what can we do ZoS has showed an extreme lack of interest or caring for the PvP community and i doubt that will change now

DK SCRUB OUT

Panda244 · February 2015

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I do AA for the Warlock Rings, I do DSA for Footman Rings/Neck and Healer Rings/Neck.

Why you might ask? So I can sell them. To buy Tripots. For PvP.

BECAUSE YOU DON'T GAIN GOLD IN PVP!! Unless you choose to farm on Thornblade.

newtinmpls · February 2015

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I play ESO for the PvE. I would not miss the PvP if it ceased to exist in the game.

That being said, I think that some aspects of this game don't make sense.

PvP players have to work through a bunch of content they don't want to get what they do. If we had some sort of arena in every city and as a choice for interact with a player was something like "throw a gauntlet" and there was dueling I think that would be better.

PvE players explore the world, and as a reward we get something that we really didn't want/care about in the first place.

DeLindsay · February 2015

Not to rock the boat here, but there's PLENTY of Players p1ssed off that they "have to PvP" to get certain quite good abilities, especially the new Vigor that ZoS decided to place behind a 1mo (lol, if you D'tick farm 10hrs/day) to as much as 6mo grind wall. So you have to understand it goes both ways. Yes there are certain things in PvE that make the PvP community mad about, but the same can be said about PvP. Don't forget the 50 SP for Alliance Ranks.

hammayolettuce · February 2015

No and I hate that we are forced to do PvE. Grinding should still be an option and XP gains from PvP should be adjusted.

Galalin wrote: »

Its BS but what can we do ZoS has showed an extreme lack of interest or caring for the PvP community and i doubt that will change now

DK SCRUB OUT

To be honest, this was a last ditch effort to get them to understand what we have been saying the entire time. I love this game. I love PvP and it's the only reason I log into the game every day (aside from the people I play with). Having to PvE is soooo tedious and unappealing that I've started having a normal life away from ESO again. Do you understand what I am saying, ZOS? You know that we love to PvP and in spite of all of our complaining and *** talking, we keep coming back because it's fun. I'm not asking for much- readjust XP gains from PvP so that a player could theoretically reach v14 in a month from only PvPing. This will also be important for when the champion system comes out, because on the PTS it takes forever to get a single point by doing PvP (I'm talking about on my main, not a template char). Additionally, there should be better gear drops in the Rewards for the Worthy mails. They could have low drop rates, I don't care. I PvP enough that I'm bound to get some great gear eventually, but I still want to work for it.

Panda244 wrote: »

I do AA for the Warlock Rings, I do DSA for Footman Rings/Neck and Healer Rings/Neck.

Why you might ask? So I can sell them. To buy Tripots. For PvP.

BECAUSE YOU DON'T GAIN GOLD IN PVP!! Unless you choose to farm on Thornblade.

You voted "other" but you seem to be in agreement that we are forced to PvP and you're not happy about it... is this correct?

Panda244 · February 2015

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hammayolettuce wrote: »

Galalin wrote: »

Its BS but what can we do ZoS has showed an extreme lack of interest or caring for the PvP community and i doubt that will change now

DK SCRUB OUT

To be honest, this was a last ditch effort to get them to understand what we have been saying the entire time. I love this game. I love PvP and it's the only reason I log into the game every day (aside from the people I play with). Having to PvE is soooo tedious and unappealing that I've started having a normal life away from ESO again. Do you understand what I am saying, ZOS? You know that we love to PvP and in spite of all of our complaining and *** talking, we keep coming back because it's fun. I'm not asking for much- readjust XP gains from PvP so that a player could theoretically reach v14 in a month from only PvPing. This will also be important for when the champion system comes out, because on the PTS it takes forever to get a single point by doing PvP (I'm talking about on my main, not a template char). Additionally, there should be better gear drops in the Rewards for the Worthy mails. They could have low drop rates, I don't care. I PvP enough that I'm bound to get some great gear eventually, but I still want to work for it.

Panda244 wrote: »

I do AA for the Warlock Rings, I do DSA for Footman Rings/Neck and Healer Rings/Neck.

Why you might ask? So I can sell them. To buy Tripots. For PvP.

BECAUSE YOU DON'T GAIN GOLD IN PVP!! Unless you choose to farm on Thornblade.

You voted "other" but you seem to be in agreement that we are forced to PvP and you're not happy about it... is this correct?

I don't mind PvE, I play a lot of Single Player RPGs, Mass Effect for one, and I do like the environment of PvE, some of the dungeons never get old to look at, Darkshade Caverns has to be my favorite. But it's getting old, I can do it for another month or two, but if no new content is added I'll start to turn into a drunk raving Panda that gets banned from the forums.

hammayolettuce · February 2015

No and I hate that we are forced to do PvE. Grinding should still be an option and XP gains from PvP should be adjusted.

DeLindsay wrote: »

Not to rock the boat here, but there's PLENTY of Players p1ssed off that they "have to PvP" to get certain quite good abilities, especially the new Vigor that ZoS decided to place behind a 1mo (lol, if you D'tick farm 10hrs/day) to as much as 6mo grind wall. So you have to understand it goes both ways. Yes there are certain things in PvE that make the PvP community mad about, but the same can be said about PvP. Don't forget the 50 SP for Alliance Ranks.

LOL you're not rocking the boat or invalidating my point. You've pointed out a similar, but unrelated issue and I feel for you. I don't think PvErs should have to PvP if they don't want to, but that has nothing to do with this topic. Make a post about it in a PvE section- link it so I can vote in agreement with you. ZOS is your audience, not me.

DeLindsay · February 2015

hammayolettuce wrote: »

DeLindsay wrote: »

Not to rock the boat here, but there's PLENTY of Players p1ssed off that they "have to PvP" to get certain quite good abilities, especially the new Vigor that ZoS decided to place behind a 1mo (lol, if you D'tick farm 10hrs/day) to as much as 6mo grind wall. So you have to understand it goes both ways. Yes there are certain things in PvE that make the PvP community mad about, but the same can be said about PvP. Don't forget the 50 SP for Alliance Ranks.

LOL you're not rocking the boat or invalidating my point. You've pointed out a similar, but unrelated issue and I feel for you. I don't think PvErs should have to PvP if they don't want to, but that has nothing to do with this topic. Make a post about it in a PvE section- link it so I can vote in agreement with you. ZOS is your audience, not me.

Nah my point is that both sides hate that ZoS puts content that we feel forced to do on the other side. I like PvP most days and am grinding away to get up to 24 but it's stupid slow. The same really can be said about most things in this game. ZoS seems hell bent on forcing Players to do what they want us to do no matter what we have to say about it. Take for example the massive Hireling nerf, it's specifically to get Players to do Writs, which the vast majority of the community hates doing (the Crafting ones, not the Consumable ones). I'd love for ZoS to listen to posts like this but what I meant by rocking the boat is that I just don't think they care.

Manoekin · February 2015

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I like PvE, but think that experience rate in PvP needs to be increased probably drastically. I don't want to be forced to do PvE to stay competitive from a leveling standpoint though I think gear is a different case. Based on initial PTS testing having max champion points makes your character a god, so you're only doing your faction a disservice by PvPing once 1.6 comes out unless your max or very close to it.

Darlgon · February 2015

Yes I am more than willing to do PvE content to make my character viable in PvP

I am seriously confused. Why is PVE ALWAYS GRINDING? I go to PVE to relax.

Also.. I go to Cyrodiil to LEVEL FASTER, as its faster XP than killing the same 20 mobs over and over. THAT is painful and terribad boring, but not real PVE.

PVE is doing quests, not killingn mobs over and over. You are missing an option OP.

hammayolettuce · February 2015

No and I hate that we are forced to do PvE. Grinding should still be an option and XP gains from PvP should be adjusted.

Darlgon wrote: »

I am seriously confused. Why is PVE ALWAYS GRINDING? I go to PVE to relax.

Also.. I go to Cyrodiil to LEVEL FASTER, as its faster XP than killing the same 20 mobs over and over. THAT is painful and terribad boring, but not real PVE.

PVE is doing quests, not killingn mobs over and over. You are missing an option OP.

I am not equating grinding with PvE. I'm saying that I would like the option to grind to max level instead of having to do PvE content. ZoS keeps nerfing XP gains. I don't want to do quests.

Ezareth · February 2015

No and I hate that we are forced to do PvE. Grinding should still be an option and XP gains from PvP should be adjusted.

Darlgon wrote: »

I am seriously confused. Why is PVE ALWAYS GRINDING? I go to PVE to relax.

Also.. I go to Cyrodiil to LEVEL FASTER, as its faster XP than killing the same 20 mobs over and over. THAT is painful and terribad boring, but not real PVE.

PVE is doing quests, not killingn mobs over and over. You are missing an option OP.

PvE means having to group with other people to be successful. I play solo to relax and there just isn't any more solo content out there I can do in PvE so now I solo PvP (usually) which is enjoyable to me. Yeah I know it's an MMO etc, but it's also Elder Scrolls and there should be fun solo content that is equivalently rewarding to a skilled player (at least with respect to Experience) compared to group content.

Rylana · February 2015

No and I hate that we are forced to do PvE. Grinding should still be an option and XP gains from PvP should be adjusted.

Simple as.

Teargrants · February 2015

No and I hate that we are forced to do PvE. Grinding should still be an option and XP gains from PvP should be adjusted.

Dee Tick is the God of PvP. He blesses not those who PvE, for they have strayed from the path which he has set out and spurned his love.

Panda244 · February 2015

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Teargrants wrote: »

Dee Tick is the God of PvP. He blesses not those who PvE, for they have strayed from the path which he has set out and spurned his love.

/faceairplane

kevlarto_ESO · February 2015

Yes I am more than willing to do PvE content to make my character viable in PvP

I am core player I play everything the game has to offer ,the magic words for me as long as I am having FUN, and having fun and playing with my friends are the main reason I play any mmo. I don't get bogged down in woulda, coulda, shoulda stuff in games they are what they are and as long as I am enjoying myself, if I have to do a few things in pve to give me a better pvp toon I do not have an issue with it. I know fun is subjective and an matter of opinion, I am just speaking for my tastes.

stefan.gustavsonb16_ESO · February 2015

Yes I am more than willing to do PvE content to make my character viable in PvP

As usual, this is a biased poll designed to argue one point. I don't do PvE to become viable in PvP, I do it for its own sake. I don't care one bit for the PvP part of the game. In PvE I can do things my way, and find groups who take a relaxed attitude to the game and accept less than optimal builds played by players who are happy with doing OK and don't feel the need to achieve top performance. In Cyrodiil, however, I feel like an amateur being thrown into the same team as a bunch of professionals. I can't make myself useful, I feel as if I simply don't belong there, and I can't find a way to have fun.

I also don't care for the PvE time trials, where the game and most groups force me to run a DPS race instead of simply winning the fights and having fun.

PvE with a rather casual approach, alone and in groups, is why I play this game. PvP is simply not for me.

Manoekin · February 2015

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People realize we are on the pvp board, right?

Jaxsun · February 2015

Other (Explain yourself)

@ZOS_BrianWheeler , hasn't it already been stated that the xp gain in cyrodiil is already being increase?

technohic · February 2015

No and I hate that we are forced to do PvE. Grinding should still be an option and XP gains from PvP should be adjusted.

Manoekin wrote: »

People realize we are on the pvp board, right?

Yeah I don't think they do. This is not a poll for PVEers. Its just a poll for PVPer right?

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO · February 2015

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I dont mind doing PVE to be viable in PVP. What bothers me is when they make me do 5000 friggin quests to level up. I wish there was more XP in the PVP system so I didnt have to do as much PVE.

glak · February 2015

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There should be a Free Cyrodiil future time warp to go to for grinding. All the factions can grind together and sing. Easy peasie DLC just like what ZOS did in VR1-10. I know people will pay for it, grudgingly.

hammayolettuce · February 2015

No and I hate that we are forced to do PvE. Grinding should still be an option and XP gains from PvP should be adjusted.

stefan.gustavsonb16_ESO wrote: »

As usual, this is a biased poll designed to argue one point.

Yeah, I pretty much explicitly stated that. This is a poll on a web forum for a video game. I don't work for Gallup.

stefan.gustavsonb16_ESO wrote: »

I don't care one bit for the PvP part of the game.
PvE with a rather casual approach, alone and in groups, is why I play this game. PvP is simply not for me.

Then why are you answering a poll that is directed at PvPers? I said, "I want ZOS to be able to see the numbers for the PvP community." Why exactly are you here?

stefan.gustavsonb16_ESO wrote: »

In Cyrodiil, however, I feel like an amateur being thrown into the same team as a bunch of professionals. I can't make myself useful, I feel as if I simply don't belong there, and I can't find a way to have fun.

What faction are you? We all started out as noobs (except Manoekin who literally won the game in his first week). Try posting "LF Trainer. New to PvP, want to learn," in zone chat. Loads of people have been talking about training people who are new to PvP. Put yourself out there. Or don't. I'm not your mom.

eliisra · February 2015

Yes I am more than willing to do PvE content to make my character viable in PvP

I dont mind PvP'ing to get gear and skills for PvE either. There are several Alliance skills you need for group content in PvE. Than of course AP for a few gear pieces, dye achievements and skill points from ranks and Cyrodiil skyshards.

That's obviously not comparable to all the PvE'ing and grinding a PvP'er needs to do. It's just to much, I agree, you're basically a worthless gimp at level cap if you skip all the PvE stuff. No skill points, no skill lines, no money, no gear lol. Guess I'm lucky to enjoy all sorts sorts of content, even if PvP tends to have the best moments.

Anyway, I think some of these PvE-haters would enjoy it more if they had actual fun and effective people to run dungeons, grind, DSA, Craglorn and trials with. In a pure PvP guild you tend to lack that and everyone is like "carebear blah", so you have no good experiences from PvE groups at all or you encountered to many pug dimwits.

I know PvP'ers that never sat a foot in a dungeon, they talk about how much they hate PvE and so on. But how would they know, when they never tried? I suspect the comfy zone. Which is a bit sad, because skill, class knowledge and experience stands on it own, always. If you're a good player in PvP, you're also going to excel in PvE activities.

Roechacca · February 2015

No and I hate that we are forced to do PvE. Grinding should still be an option and XP gains from PvP should be adjusted.

PVE is not my strong point because I find AI predictable and boring . It's always the same formula . I really wish they never nerfed pvp xp and kill missions after launch but PVE players got upset we were leveling faster . Which I never understood and stated if they nerfed us , we would end up in their pVE zones grinding , which that happened . Now they're nerfing grinding . So PVE players get to suffer the same nerf if they don't want to run trials all day .

Panda244 · February 2015

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roechacca wrote: »

PVE is not my strong point because I find AI predictable and boring . It's always the same formula . I really wish they never nerfed pvp xp and kill missions after launch but PVE players got upset we were leveling faster . Which I never understood and stated if they nerfed us , we would end up in their pVE zones grinding , which that happened . Now they're nerfing grinding . So PVE players get to suffer the same nerf if they don't want to run trials all day .

Did you just come up with a legitimate explanation to something... @roechacca where's Roe and what have you done with him/her/it?

Roechacca · February 2015

No and I hate that we are forced to do PvE. Grinding should still be an option and XP gains from PvP should be adjusted.

Panda244 wrote: »

roechacca wrote: »

PVE is not my strong point because I find AI predictable and boring . It's always the same formula . I really wish they never nerfed pvp xp and kill missions after launch but PVE players got upset we were leveling faster . Which I never understood and stated if they nerfed us , we would end up in their pVE zones grinding , which that happened . Now they're nerfing grinding . So PVE players get to suffer the same nerf if they don't want to run trials all day .

Did you just come up with a legitimate explanation to something... @roechacca where's Roe and what have you done with him/her/it?

The OP got me in his fishing guild . I owed him one .

Ffastyl · February 2015

Yes I am more than willing to do PvE content to make my character viable in PvP

I love PvE. I really love PvE.
I love PvE so much I ran out of PvE. So here I am in PvP. I like PvP, but given the chance I will go back to PvE.

hammayolettuce · February 2015

No and I hate that we are forced to do PvE. Grinding should still be an option and XP gains from PvP should be adjusted.

roechacca wrote: »

Panda244 wrote: »

roechacca wrote: »

PVE is not my strong point because I find AI predictable and boring . It's always the same formula . I really wish they never nerfed pvp xp and kill missions after launch but PVE players got upset we were leveling faster . Which I never understood and stated if they nerfed us , we would end up in their pVE zones grinding , which that happened . Now they're nerfing grinding . So PVE players get to suffer the same nerf if they don't want to run trials all day .

Did you just come up with a legitimate explanation to something... @roechacca where's Roe and what have you done with him/her/it?

The OP got me in his fishing guild . I owed him one .

That was days ago and you still haven't added it to your forum signature. It's like you're ashamed of me.

Roechacca · February 2015

No and I hate that we are forced to do PvE. Grinding should still be an option and XP gains from PvP should be adjusted.

hammayolettuce wrote: »

roechacca wrote: »

Panda244 wrote: »

roechacca wrote: »

PVE is not my strong point because I find AI predictable and boring . It's always the same formula . I really wish they never nerfed pvp xp and kill missions after launch but PVE players got upset we were leveling faster . Which I never understood and stated if they nerfed us , we would end up in their pVE zones grinding , which that happened . Now they're nerfing grinding . So PVE players get to suffer the same nerf if they don't want to run trials all day .

Did you just come up with a legitimate explanation to something... @roechacca where's Roe and what have you done with him/her/it?

The OP got me in his fishing guild . I owed him one .

That was days ago and you still haven't added it to your forum signature. It's like you're ashamed of me.

I have no idea what you're talking about . Clearly that was a new forum glitch or something ...

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