Update 6 - Pickpocket Enemies.

SG_Celerrimus

So, I have no idea if you can do this or not, I know you can't on daedra in Coldharbour, but I think we should be able to pickpocket enemies as well as neutral NPCs. This, perhaps, could be done so that what we pickpocket is actually their loot table that we would access after they die.

SG_Celerrimus

Obviously, it would need to be just for standard NPCs and not bosses or elite mobs.

Natjur

How many enemies (non neutral NPC's, as in RED not yellow bars) can you get up to pickpocket range without them seeing through your sneak\invis?

SG_Celerrimus

Natjur wrote: »

How many enemies (non neutral NPC's, as in RED not yellow bars) can you get up to pickpocket range without them seeing through your sneak\invis?

Quite a few.

I sneak attack enemies with daggers all the time.

Gidorick

So, would they have less after you kill them or would this be for a non-lethal play through of dungeons.

SG_Celerrimus

Gidorick wrote: »

So, would they have less after you kill them or would this be for a non-lethal play through of dungeons.

I would say have less after you kill them.

For instance: A bandit could have a dagger, 20 gold, and two lockpicks in its backpack (to name a few items offhand). If a player goes up to it and pickpockets it, the player steals the 20 gold and the 2 lockpicks, but the dagger remains in the bandit's inventory. When the player kills said bandit, all that will be in its loot table would be the dagger.

This system would obviously need to follow the rules of individualized loot, as to prevent people from just stealing all the gold from all the mobs in an area.

Knootewoot

How about placing objects in the enemy loot table. You make poison and place it in their loottable. they drink it and die.

Or you make a poison you can name yourself (like morrowind could). You make damage health and name it superduper healing potion. You place it in enemy loottable. Another player comes along and kills mob. He loots the potion, drinks it and has his health drained bwahaha.

Gidorick

SG_Celerrimus wrote: »

Gidorick wrote: »

So, would they have less after you kill them or would this be for a non-lethal play through of dungeons.

I would say have less after you kill them.

For instance: A bandit could have a dagger, 20 gold, and two lockpicks in its backpack (to name a few items offhand). If a player goes up to it and pickpockets it, the player steals the 20 gold and the 2 lockpicks, but the dagger remains in the bandit's inventory. When the player kills said bandit, all that will be in its loot table would be the dagger.

This system would obviously need to follow the rules of individualized loot, as to prevent people from just stealing all the gold from all the mobs in an area.

What's the benefit of pickpocketing first? I would like it if there was a "pickpocket" loot cache and a "kill" loot cache. Pickpocket + kill yields more than one or the other.