1.61 Notes, NB OP

Suru

1.6.1****

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• You can no longer hold block while feared.

Other Things

• PVP kills no longer grant Ultimate.

Discuss.

Pirhana7_ESO

How does this make the NB OPd? If you are feared you shouldnt be able to do anything. That fear also costs alot of magika. From my experience in PVP less than 20% of NBs even use it

Suru

Pirhana7_ESO wrote: »

How does this make the NB OPd? If you are feared you shouldnt be able to do anything. That fear also costs alot of magika. From my experience in PVP less than 20% of NBs even use it

Yea its true that few NB's even used the skill, but sometimes what would save you would be being to hold block/CC'd break. Since it pierces block its a guaranteed gib if you don't have the resources. Not complaining, just hope to see it more now that its being buff'd even more..

Huntler

Pirhana7_ESO wrote: »

How does this make the NB OPd? If you are feared you shouldnt be able to do anything. That fear also costs alot of magika. From my experience in PVP less than 20% of NBs even use it

Fear goes through block, the only CC that locks you out of abilities but isn't blockable. This makes fear strong as *** right now. And fear costs a lot of magicka compared to some of your dps abilities sure, but its an aoe cc with a long term effect.... it should cost a lot (but in the grand scheme of other abilities in the game its cheap).

Suru

Huntler wrote: »

Pirhana7_ESO wrote: »

How does this make the NB OPd? If you are feared you shouldnt be able to do anything. That fear also costs alot of magika. From my experience in PVP less than 20% of NBs even use it

Fear goes through block, the only CC that locks you out of abilities but isn't blockable. This makes fear strong as *** right now. And fear costs a lot of magicka compared to some of your dps abilities sure, but its an aoe cc with a long term effect.... it should cost a lot (but in the grand scheme of other abilities in the game its cheap).

For how strong it is with this change, its like a mini ult where if we arent ready to CC break or have Immovable up (which just got a nerf in the patch notes) it can wipe multiple groups by spamming this skill. Kinda like negate does sorta kinda.

aco5712

Honestly dont think this changes anything. If you have the stam, you will break fear. If you dont then your really low on it, at which point you will stop blocking in the fear anyways because of 0 stam.

The kills ulti thing is a step in the wrong direction though.

Cody

why don't you CC break it when feared... like most people do..

if any class will be "OP" it will be the Templar.

Cody

and I know what you are going to say "I am a magicka build in LA".... well, that means your build has a weakness. You can stack a hoard of damage shields, Its only fair for LA magicka builds to have a weakness in the stamina/CC department.

Satiar

Finally.

I welcome myself as your new overlord.

But srsly nerf fear.

Oughash

Selling 8-trait light armor and heavy armor. PST!

Suru

Cody wrote: »

and I know what you are going to say "I am a magicka build in LA".... well, that means your build has a weakness. You can stack a hoard of damage shields, Its only fair for LA magicka builds to have a weakness in the stamina/CC department.

stay at range, make use of knockback skills, get more stamina..... whichever solution floats your boat, but you are going to have weaknesses, accept it and learn to work around it.

I have plenty of stamina, but this is a pretty strong skill as it is the only skill type in the game that Pierces block tho.

Satiar

But really, I dunno. When people block in fear on PTS, I can ruin their stamina bar. And then I can fear them again later.

Huntler

I'm more upset by the continued healing nerfs coupled with immovable nerf. Welcome to Elder CC online. CC is already spammed like crazy, damn near half the abilities people run have some kind of CC component. 1.6 damage is already way huge and TTK is way down.... couple that with not being able to defend yourself/counteract CC as well (lets be honest even instantly breaking CC you can still already have been delayed too much to die/lose the fight).... this is just dumb.


Oh and well right now damage shields > any heal..... absolutely ridiculous

Roechacca

Ishammael wrote: »

Selling 8-trait light armor and heavy armor. PST!

Do u take credit ?

TheBull

CC break is your friend... Permablockers crack me up.

Cody

Suru wrote: »

Cody wrote: »

and I know what you are going to say "I am a magicka build in LA".... well, that means your build has a weakness. You can stack a hoard of damage shields, Its only fair for LA magicka builds to have a weakness in the stamina/CC department.

stay at range, make use of knockback skills, get more stamina..... whichever solution floats your boat, but you are going to have weaknesses, accept it and learn to work around it.

I have plenty of stamina, but this is a pretty strong skill as it is the only skill type in the game that Pierces block tho.

and stacking a ridiculous almost never ending hoard of damage shields is a very strong ability also.

Ezareth

Yeah yet another nerf to Restoration...I don't get it. I'm finding myself having a harder and harder time justifying Healing ward and a Resto staff over Destro and another ability.

xxslam48xxb14_ESO

Maybe when they fix shadow cloak so it can remove sorceror dots. The one they put on you that explodes after a certain time... yeah it doesn't remove that and the explosion takes you out of stealth. Its not easy being sneaky. =(

squshy7

xxslam48xxb14_ESO wrote: »

Maybe when they fix shadow cloak so it can remove sorceror dots. The one they put on you that explodes after a certain time... yeah it doesn't remove that and the explosion takes you out of stealth. Its not easy being sneaky. =(

That's not a dot, and nor should it be removed by using cloak. I say this as an early access main NB. Balance is a good thing, remember.

Huntler

ezareth_ESO wrote: »

Yeah yet another nerf to Restoration...I don't get it. I'm finding myself having a harder and harder time justifying Healing ward and a Resto staff over Destro and another ability.

Imagine how us templar healers feel... this is a MASSIVE nerf to templar healing already coupled with several other massive nerfs in the original 1.6 . It is actually getting ridiculous. Shields are more magicka efficient than my heals right now.

xxslam48xxb14_ESO

squshy7 wrote: »

xxslam48xxb14_ESO wrote: »

Maybe when they fix shadow cloak so it can remove sorceror dots. The one they put on you that explodes after a certain time... yeah it doesn't remove that and the explosion takes you out of stealth. Its not easy being sneaky. =(

That's not a dot, and nor should it be removed by using cloak. I say this as an early access main NB. Balance is a good thing, remember.

Balance works in both directions, if i cant remove it then its in the sorcs favor. What actually does it remove lol....... Im trying to think, but its hard! Im a beta nb main too btw look at my user name.

Anu_Saukko_Tutkija

yeah, i bet if you find me, and can get close to me, you win.

But if you are there out in the open,
hoping no one notice,i can not be seen.
Killer queen on the shadows behind, is the cat, not an bat!
one eye closed, blink fast.. Disposed!
Bring a coffin, here have a muffin, SWEET

Rogue is deadly, especially if you are #FluffyBigDog

Think it like this:

This one just trowed a sharp stick, and you were unable to fetch.

Xsorus

Huntler wrote: »

ezareth_ESO wrote: »

Yeah yet another nerf to Restoration...I don't get it. I'm finding myself having a harder and harder time justifying Healing ward and a Resto staff over Destro and another ability.

Imagine how us templar healers feel... this is a MASSIVE nerf to templar healing already coupled with several other massive nerfs in the original 1.6 . It is actually getting ridiculous. Shields are more magicka efficient than my heals right now.

They keep making silly decisions like buffing sorcs based on what mouth breathers are saying. It's the same with fear... I have a nightblade and fear shouldn't break block.

Lionxoft

Sorcs, templars and DKs all have cc through block abilities now. How does this make them overpowered when compared to the other classes?

Teargrants

xxslam48xxb14_ESO wrote: »

squshy7 wrote: »

xxslam48xxb14_ESO wrote: »

Maybe when they fix shadow cloak so it can remove sorceror dots. The one they put on you that explodes after a certain time... yeah it doesn't remove that and the explosion takes you out of stealth. Its not easy being sneaky. =(

That's not a dot, and nor should it be removed by using cloak. I say this as an early access main NB. Balance is a good thing, remember.

Balance works in both directions, if i cant remove it then its in the sorcs favor. What actually does it remove lol....... Im trying to think, but its hard! Im a beta nb main too btw look at my user name.

It's called purge.

JDar

Are you saying only 20% of nightblades use Aspect of Terror? It should be on every NB bar. It's already strong pre-1.6. Along with Surprise Attack and Ambush it's a no-brainer.

Shocks me to think. And it's going to work on 3 enemies now. muhahaha

Of course with Surprise attack and Ambush going stamina, that will make me have to make decisions there. Gonna have to have a more balanced build now.

Domander

Suru wrote: »

Cody wrote: »

and I know what you are going to say "I am a magicka build in LA".... well, that means your build has a weakness. You can stack a hoard of damage shields, Its only fair for LA magicka builds to have a weakness in the stamina/CC department.

stay at range, make use of knockback skills, get more stamina..... whichever solution floats your boat, but you are going to have weaknesses, accept it and learn to work around it.

I have plenty of stamina, but this is a pretty strong skill as it is the only skill type in the game that Pierces block tho.

All disorients go through block on the pts...which is probably intended, they changed some skills that used to disorient. (shock touch, streak)

fear is a little stronger since it shouldn't break on damage, but you should also get CC immunity when out of it.

tonemd

So this applies to all skills that use fear right? Like Turn Undead and the Werewolves ult? Don't see this as a NB issue, or an issue at all.

Erondil

But NB melee magicka got no burst on PTS, so why is it a problem?

Tripwyr

This is not a change. It is reverting the PTS back to the way fear behaves on live.

Lava_Croft

NB OP? More like Sorc OP. All you see on PTS is Sorcerers decimating everything.