1.6 PTS Templates... Are you serious??!

Yusuf

So i downloaded the pts-patch for 6 hours today, for a patch we've been waiting for for nearly 2 months.

After testing 1.5 on PTS i was hoping: "maybe they learned from their mistakes with the templates", but noooo it got even worse in 1.6

1. An EU-Player who creates a character from the "Veteran 14 Endgame-Template" has to manually level EVERY skill in the game so that he can test the morphs.
I was kinda expecting the NA-players to be favored and get the character-copies first, and i don't have a problem with that. But why are the templates so bad?

2. Templates haven't any research-trait unlocked.
Nobody in the game ever wears a full aether-set with armor-jewelry and staff.
Why don't template-characters know any craftingtraits?
One of the reasons the Spectre's Eye-Set was bugged forever was because nobody could test it, seriously who spends his time researching 5x8 traits on the test-server?

3. Guildstores aren't working and are probably all bugged.
Since the PTS is essentially a copy of the NA-Server it also has all the guild-traders from NA with all the items for sale in it.
So i thought if i can't craft i can buy a few sets that make my character similar to my live-build so i can test the new rebalanced gameplay.
Nope, EVERYTHING you buy at a guildtrader prompts the system-message "could not find specified item".

4. Even if the guildstores did work, a template-character only has 50,000 gold.

Seriously, in 1.5 we had 5 million gold and all our class- and weaponskills where morph-able and maxed out!


To all readers, i'm sorry for the QQ but i had to vent it out somewhere... this is now the official thread where every EU-player can complain about the PTS as much as he/she likes.

dharbert

The test server should be completely unlocked. All skills, morphs, traits, everything unlocked right off the bat. Unlimited gold and access to every weapon and armor set in the game. It's a test server. Nothing you do in it will ever translate to the live server, so why the restrictions?

filmoretub17_ESO

If everything is maxed out then how will you know if the process of becoming maxed out is bugged?

Soris

filmoretub17_ESO wrote: »

If everything is maxed out then how will you know if the process of becoming maxed out is bugged?

Lol. While having a v14 template character, how will you know if the process of leveling 1-v14 is bugged? Would you test that too?

Template means template. Everything is maxed out. Simple it is.

manny254

I think there is an item you get that levels all your skill.

Soris

That is for guild and alliance war levels, not for skills

Soulshine

I brought the morph issue up in the PTS forum and the response from ZOS is it is WAI.

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/148402/1-6-pts-bugs-and-issues-thread#latest

Yet past versions of the PTS have had all morphs available for immediate use on a vr14 template. If they mean for people to be actively testing fully built chars in dungeons, trials, pvp, etc. it does not make sense to expect them to run about for god knows how long spamming the skills up to morph level.

If you want people to also test the base skills then simply add a low level template for people to test that with and have a maxed version available as well. Again, that was an option in the past.

Downnola

Hey,

where i can find the template?

xMovingTarget

Oh dear, i am not looking forward to this. still not done with downloading. Since i have Live and PTS on differend Drives i got a bug and have to download the whole thing again. -.-

Why did they give us such bad templates for such an important test..

AngryNord

Downnola wrote: »

Hey,

where i can find the template?

Upper left corner of character creation window. There's a pull down menu enabling you to make a 'v14 endgame' character.

Sharee

Yusuf wrote: »

1. An EU-Player who creates a character from the "Veteran 14 Endgame-Template" has to manually level EVERY skill in the game so that he can test the morphs.

Two things that make this less of a pain:

- The alliance warfare skills level super fast. Like kill 3-4 mobs and you will be able to morph it. (i believe this is from using an item the template characters get in their inventories, called level-o-matic or something)

- Once you morph a skill, it will go straight to level 4 version of the morph.

Also, the first couple of skills in a tree (like shadow cloak and veiled strike) require very low XP to level (since they are meant to be used/leveled by level ~10 toons) so they also level up very fast when done with a v14 char.

clocksstoppe

It's so, you know, you have to READ what the skills do before you level them and know what to expect when testing them. Also you are forced to test them for more than a whole 1 minutes this way.

filmoretub17_ESO

Soris_ESO wrote: »

filmoretub17_ESO wrote: »

If everything is maxed out then how will you know if the process of becoming maxed out is bugged?

Lol. While having a v14 template character, how will you know if the process of leveling 1-v14 is bugged? Would you test that too?

Template means template. Everything is maxed out. Simple it is.

Guess I was correct. This from Zenimax

It is indeed intentional. The idea was to test the base abilities, and eventually their morphs as well.

Kilandros

filmoretub17_ESO wrote: »

Soris_ESO wrote: »

filmoretub17_ESO wrote: »

If everything is maxed out then how will you know if the process of becoming maxed out is bugged?

Lol. While having a v14 template character, how will you know if the process of leveling 1-v14 is bugged? Would you test that too?

Template means template. Everything is maxed out. Simple it is.

Guess I was correct. This from Zenimax

It is indeed intentional. The idea was to test the base abilities, and eventually their morphs as well.

We could have tested the base ability first and then gone on to the morph if they had asked us to. As it stands, there's no way I'm going to test more than a couple of morphs on the different characters.

tinythinker

Yusuf wrote: »

2. Templates haven't any research-trait unlocked.
Nobody in the game ever wears a full aether-set with armor-jewelry and staff.
Why don't template-characters know any craftingtraits?
One of the reasons the Spectre's Eye-Set was bugged forever was because nobody could test it, seriously who spends his time researching 5x8 traits on the test-server?

They fixed the morphs issue in the first patch for Update 1.6. People who want to test ranking up abilities can do so or they can just go straight to the morph.

But the crafting traits are still not unlocked. Who can or would take weeks/months to research these on the test server? It's not like there isn't a new trait like Nirnhoned to be tested anyway. Unlocking these and having a Crafter's Box with a few stacks of Voidstone, Shadowhide, etc as well as the trait stones would be extremely useful.

Zershar_Vemod

dharbert wrote: »

The test server should be completely unlocked. All skills, morphs, traits, everything unlocked right off the bat. Unlimited gold and access to every weapon and armor set in the game. It's a test server. Nothing you do in it will ever translate to the live server, so why the restrictions?

This.

PTS is there to simply test, nothing else matters there.

tinythinker

Zershar_Vemod wrote: »

dharbert wrote: »

The test server should be completely unlocked. All skills, morphs, traits, everything unlocked right off the bat. Unlimited gold and access to every weapon and armor set in the game. It's a test server. Nothing you do in it will ever translate to the live server, so why the restrictions?

This.

PTS is there to simply test, nothing else matters there.

They already have that "All Skills" book in the Nedic Box of Impromptu Destiny. For those that want to do it the long way to test leveling abilities and what not, let the template start off with no skills, no crafting traits, etc. If you don't want that, read that book and have it max out all skill lines and crafting traits. Just add a Crafter's Box (see above) for those who don't want to wait and everyone is good to go.

kieso

they should have a vendor that sells all the armor/weapon sets.

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO

I can just hear complaints on live about how morphs are messed up and why didnt people test them. If they need the morphs tested there is no way to do it other than playing the game. Honestly the test server is not for testing what YOU want but for testing what Zenimax wants.

Alphashado

I was having serious bug issues with my Template yesterday. Spell damage and weapon damage were the same value regardless what attribute/glyph changes I made.

tinythinker

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

I can just hear complaints on live about how morphs are messed up and why didnt people test them. If they need the morphs tested there is no way to do it other than playing the game. Honestly the test server is not for testing what YOU want but for testing what Zenimax wants.

Yes, and having the option to get to the morphs quickly rather than having to take hours grinding or days questing to level a base ability to the point where they can be morphed can be useful for testing the difference between the two morphs. That's why I like the "read the skillmaster book if you want to get straight to being able to pick morphs" concept, and letting those who don't read that book start of at Rank One off the base ability. In any case they just decided in the last patch to change it so that you can always morph an ability right away and have the new morph at max rank.

This kind of testing freedom is also why having a ton of gold or making respecs free/super cheap on the PTS also makes sense, so players can try lots of different skill bars and see how various combinations work (and whether using certain abilities together or in a particular sequence causes problems).