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The un-nerf Bolt Escape conspiracy, #SorcAlliance

  • thelordoffelines
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    Da Sandman wrote: »
    I would like to blink at 45 degree angle into keeps.... for you know.... science.

    DKs can do it, why can't we?
  • Maulkin
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    Jahosefat wrote: »
    Vs sorcs the interrupt of crushing shock goes a long way...

    In duels yes, in open world less so. And that's provided they fix the interrupt utility to actually work against heavy attacks (please god). Also, the only Sorc skill with cast time is Crystal Frags and all the Sorcs wait for the proc. Not seen a channel of Frags in a long time.
    Jahosefat wrote: »
    ...and applies a snare (and dmg debuff)

    It has a chance to apply a debuff. Higher than usual due to destro passives but it's still just a chance. On the other hand if the NB uses the Funnel/Swallow well enough (after a high dmg hit) he can keep easily keep 150+ hp heals up during the whole fight and there's nothing you can do about it once it starts.

    PvP is always a bit more mixed, as people try different stuff. We'll se a bit of everything I'd imagine. I predict PvE will be Funnel+Cripple all the way though.
    Jahosefat wrote: »
    The new NB skill they were talking about (the one with the magical bow shot that procs or something) also sounds like a sorc killer. We will see :)

    That skill does sound very cool. We'll have to wait and see. Quite excited about PTS myself, hope it's not a let down.
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    Edited by Maulkin on January 26, 2015 7:12PM
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  • RedTalon
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    WTS tin foil hats
  • Sypher
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    We should be able to key bind the arrow keys to bolt escape in any direction we double tap in.

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  • Jahosefat
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    Also, the only Sorc skill with cast time is Crystal Frags and all the Sorcs wait for the proc. Not seen a channel of Frags in a long time.

    The prevalence of crushing shock/venom arrow are what make casting frags and dark exchange in the open near impossible for sorcs (and often a death sentence).

    It has a chance to apply a debuff.

    A 55% chance, so the majority of the time it procs (and the debuffs apply for 3-5 seconds) so they stay up most of the fight if it's being spammed. But to each their own :)
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  • Germtrocity
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    I hate to mention this just because it is probably an easy nerfbat to throw at BE but why didn't they just reduce the distance travelled?

    It would have taken away the endless escape, limited the total targets for group stunning and also the potential ult gained much better than the current option.

    Now that I have said this, that will be their next fix without removing the cost escalation and regen debuff. :(
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    Edited by Germtrocity on January 26, 2015 9:03PM
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    DHale wrote: »
    I wont miss Germantrocity killing me a dozen times or whatever you made him rename himself cause he is OP.
  • Huntler
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    Sypher wrote: »
    We should be able to key bind the arrow keys to bolt escape in any direction we double tap in.

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  • Suru
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    Just sounds like you want to use bolt more with your heavy armor build....

    aside from that, I played sorc normally and then as an emperor. Magika intensive and a skill not meant to be spammed. Its just the common playstyle around bolt that wants this unerfed.


    Suru
  • Cinnamon_Spider
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    Hughezy wrote: »
    Hughezy wrote: »
    Teargrants wrote: »
    - Refuse to use negate in raids unless they make one QQ post demanding Bolt Escape buffs per negate

    @WRX and @Winnamine, I'll be waiting for these posts. Until then, my negate will be replaced with storm atronach. ;)

    If I make a post will you join DC??

    Creating a new DC toon will result in the death of a bank alt, so you'll have to live with that on your conscience.

    I'm fine with that, let me get my speech ready as well some flowers for joining DC.

    I only accept columbine and bugloss...

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  • Wisler89
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    Sypher wrote: »
    We should be able to key bind the arrow keys to bolt escape in any direction we double tap in.

    FULLL IMMURRRSSIIIONN

    Holy ***, why is this the first time I read something like this? Imagine this would be the most awesome magicka based dogde roll.
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  • Digiman
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    Bolt escape is being redone. ZOS already said they werent happy with the changes they did to it and are reworking. No worries.

    Yeah the whole we don't want to restrict someone from using an ability and then putting restrictions BE because of community outcry seems hypocritical.
  • NotSo
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    I've not been able to use bolt escape reliably in PvP anyways. It takes too much gear to push the reduced spell cost to make that worth using as a getaway spell but I think it is pretty good cc on the other side. Right now I wish we could get a change for the orb morph to make it a magicka % cost without a penalty so us stamina/hybrid types could use it without totally messing up our magicka regen.
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  • morvegil
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    Bolt Escaped sucks? What ever. So you named one ability that can catch it. Theres tons of "Soloing" Sorcs out there in PVP.
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  • cozmon3c_ESO
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    morvegil wrote: »
    Bolt Escaped sucks? What ever. So you named one ability that can catch it. Theres tons of "Soloing" Sorcs out there in PVP.

    Oh lo'ke we have fun don't we? Also I wouldn't say there are tons of solo sorcs, just a few really annoying ones ;).
    Edited by cozmon3c_ESO on January 27, 2015 3:51PM
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  • ToRelax
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    I'll just never tell people of my lags, freezes, no-weapon-swaps, 100% heal debuffs, soul assaults or anything else i sometimes complain about again.
    Only broken Bolt Escape :/ .
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  • morvegil
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    morvegil wrote: »
    Bolt Escaped sucks? What ever. So you named one ability that can catch it. Theres tons of "Soloing" Sorcs out there in PVP.

    Oh lo'ke we have fun don't we? Also I wouldn't say there are tons of solo sorcs, just a few really annoying ones ;).

    haah true! I'm a NB...fix my dark cloak or stealth in general. Lol i was stuck in "combat" for 5 minutes....so i went and killed a wolf and i stealthed.....

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  • Suru
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    morvegil wrote: »
    Bolt Escaped sucks? What ever. So you named one ability that can catch it. Theres tons of "Soloing" Sorcs out there in PVP.

    Oh lo'ke we have fun don't we? Also I wouldn't say there are tons of solo sorcs, just a few really annoying ones ;).

    There's alot of solo sorcs, just not very many good ones* :p


    Suru
  • Germtrocity
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    Suru wrote: »
    morvegil wrote: »
    Bolt Escaped sucks? What ever. So you named one ability that can catch it. Theres tons of "Soloing" Sorcs out there in PVP.

    Oh lo'ke we have fun don't we? Also I wouldn't say there are tons of solo sorcs, just a few really annoying ones ;).

    There's alot of solo sorcs, just not very many good ones* :p
    Just not very many free AP ones* :p
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    DHale wrote: »
    I wont miss Germantrocity killing me a dozen times or whatever you made him rename himself cause he is OP.
  • Mukuro
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    I never got the chance to use BE during un nerfed times. ..
    I can only imagine...
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  • Mukuro
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    So... impulse/WoE/batswarm/proximity detonation monkeys... and i cant run away BECAUSE MY BOLT ESCAPED IS NERFED...
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  • NordJitsu
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    un-nerf something that's already a giant head ach ? Yyyeeaa no and it's not cause of the stun or the spamming that I hate it's you Sorc use it to run away cause your afraid to die. If they change it to were you can't run away with it then do what ever you want to it make it have a rainbow tail and play nyan cat while you use it for all I care as long as you can't run away with it.

    Right. Because God forbid something called Bolt ESCAPE was a reliable means of escape.
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  • olsborg
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    Hope they change it again, the current nerf and the state of the skill atm is outdated in todays game. Un or renerf.
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  • Cinnamon_Spider
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    Ok guys... After 1.6 imma start a sorc raid... 24 sorcs and well go around all cursing the same person at the same time then watch them drop dead 4 seconds later.

    Cinnamonspiderdreams may come back from her vacation to get in on this. Bonus points if you can get only sorcs that didn't put spaces in their name.
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  • WebBull
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    Not sure what you guys are complaining about. BE seems to work fine in PvP. All I ever see is sorc's BEing themselves to safety while everyone else dies.
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