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12 Month one time reward
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✭✭✭✭✭AshySamurai wrote: »NewBlacksmurf wrote: »I think we are all like....dangit I missed 12 months but then those who did not miss are thinking....THANK YOU!
The line was drawn and honestly, it doesn't need to be extended or changed.
IF they decided to create other rewards for 11 - 10 and 8-9 that would be a plus but if you jumped in, and kept the sub active whatever the means....considering this game needed a lot of attention and still does need some more TLC....
- 12 month subscribers should be rewarded and rightly so as they literally funded the development of this game.
All who was subscribed at least one month funded the development of this game.
There is a huge difference in 1-4 months with a $20 box or whatever discount ppl got compared to those who own the pre-ordered CE and who have paid for 12 consecutive months. The original players who also have 12 months deserve a reward. I quit after 90 days because the game was very unstable, incomplete and bugged to the max.
Anyone who paid all through that...they should have a rediculous in-game reward.
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jamesharv2005ub17_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Ok guys look. Time to grow up and move on. I probably wont get this reward either. So what? Im happy for those who got it. Im not going to stomp my feet like a spoiled child and demand they give me the reward even tho I do not qualify for it. If you are under 12 then I apologize. Over 12 time to move on. -
rawne1980b16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭AshySamurai wrote: »All who was subscribed at least one month funded the development of this game.
No, no they didn't.
Zenimax funded development. You paid Zenimax back.
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Haha, if the payment went through, then yes.jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »
Because double charges in April and May were entirely Zenimax's fault and because of that many people's subs lapsed. Do you really feel it's fair to deny them the loyalty reward?jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »AshySamurai wrote: »jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »AshySamurai wrote: »
They have already answered. They said they "do not expect any leeway". I know its not the answer you want but its an answer none the less.
We all know how easily ZOS changes their mind. Why they shouldn't do it one more time?
If they start making exceptions they will never stop. I missed an hour. I missed a week. I missed a month. I missed 6 months. This is why they are most likely going to stick to their guns. I hope at least. Sick of them caving to the incessant whining of the forums. Why not just accept the fact you didnt sub 100% of the time so you dont qualify?
If it lapsed for a whole month then yes I feel it is fair. If you were double charged then how is that a lapse? If anything you double paid for the month.
But my bank declined the charge, considering it suspicious, so my sub lapsed - I know others who experienced the same thing. Besides, there were other payment issues going on at the time.
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Haha, if the payment went through, then yes.jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »
Because double charges in April and May were entirely Zenimax's fault and because of that many people's subs lapsed. Do you really feel it's fair to deny them the loyalty reward?jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »AshySamurai wrote: »jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »AshySamurai wrote: »
They have already answered. They said they "do not expect any leeway". I know its not the answer you want but its an answer none the less.
We all know how easily ZOS changes their mind. Why they shouldn't do it one more time?
If they start making exceptions they will never stop. I missed an hour. I missed a week. I missed a month. I missed 6 months. This is why they are most likely going to stick to their guns. I hope at least. Sick of them caving to the incessant whining of the forums. Why not just accept the fact you didnt sub 100% of the time so you dont qualify?
If it lapsed for a whole month then yes I feel it is fair. If you were double charged then how is that a lapse? If anything you double paid for the month. But my bank declined the charge, considering it suspicious, so my sub lapsed - I know others who experienced the same thing. Besides, there were other payment issues going on at the time.
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Not for a month. Why are we talking about a month? They said no leeway, so even a day disqualifies you.jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »
Haha, if the payment went through, then yes.jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »
Because double charges in April and May were entirely Zenimax's fault and because of that many people's subs lapsed. Do you really feel it's fair to deny them the loyalty reward?jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »AshySamurai wrote: »jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »AshySamurai wrote: »
They have already answered. They said they "do not expect any leeway". I know its not the answer you want but its an answer none the less.
We all know how easily ZOS changes their mind. Why they shouldn't do it one more time?
If they start making exceptions they will never stop. I missed an hour. I missed a week. I missed a month. I missed 6 months. This is why they are most likely going to stick to their guns. I hope at least. Sick of them caving to the incessant whining of the forums. Why not just accept the fact you didnt sub 100% of the time so you dont qualify?
If it lapsed for a whole month then yes I feel it is fair. If you were double charged then how is that a lapse? If anything you double paid for the month. But my bank declined the charge, considering it suspicious, so my sub lapsed - I know others who experienced the same thing. Besides, there were other payment issues going on at the time.
The sub lapsed for an entire month? Your bank declined the charge and you didnt notice or what?
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Not for a month. Why are we talking about a month? They said no leeway, so even a day disqualifies you.jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »
Haha, if the payment went through, then yes.jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »
Because double charges in April and May were entirely Zenimax's fault and because of that many people's subs lapsed. Do you really feel it's fair to deny them the loyalty reward?jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »AshySamurai wrote: »jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »AshySamurai wrote: »
They have already answered. They said they "do not expect any leeway". I know its not the answer you want but its an answer none the less.
We all know how easily ZOS changes their mind. Why they shouldn't do it one more time?
If they start making exceptions they will never stop. I missed an hour. I missed a week. I missed a month. I missed 6 months. This is why they are most likely going to stick to their guns. I hope at least. Sick of them caving to the incessant whining of the forums. Why not just accept the fact you didnt sub 100% of the time so you dont qualify?
If it lapsed for a whole month then yes I feel it is fair. If you were double charged then how is that a lapse? If anything you double paid for the month. But my bank declined the charge, considering it suspicious, so my sub lapsed - I know others who experienced the same thing. Besides, there were other payment issues going on at the time.
The sub lapsed for an entire month? Your bank declined the charge and you didnt notice or what?
Where did they say even a day disqualifies you? They said you needed to be subbed from April (notice they said no date in April) to March 17th relaunch. Nowhere did they say a day or even a week would disqualify you. All you need is to be subbed every month from April to March 17th. -
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They didn't say every month. They said subbed from April to March, no leeway. There's no basis to read it as "could miss a week as long as you got some time during that month". That's kinda exactly what "no leeway" implies. Of course, we dont know which day in April exactly and what "subbed" means (because April was covered by 30 free days and then we got 5 days more, so everyone started paying in May).jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »
Not for a month. Why are we talking about a month? They said no leeway, so even a day disqualifies you.jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »
Haha, if the payment went through, then yes.jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »
Because double charges in April and May were entirely Zenimax's fault and because of that many people's subs lapsed. Do you really feel it's fair to deny them the loyalty reward?jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »AshySamurai wrote: »jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »AshySamurai wrote: »
They have already answered. They said they "do not expect any leeway". I know its not the answer you want but its an answer none the less.
We all know how easily ZOS changes their mind. Why they shouldn't do it one more time?
If they start making exceptions they will never stop. I missed an hour. I missed a week. I missed a month. I missed 6 months. This is why they are most likely going to stick to their guns. I hope at least. Sick of them caving to the incessant whining of the forums. Why not just accept the fact you didnt sub 100% of the time so you dont qualify?
If it lapsed for a whole month then yes I feel it is fair. If you were double charged then how is that a lapse? If anything you double paid for the month. But my bank declined the charge, considering it suspicious, so my sub lapsed - I know others who experienced the same thing. Besides, there were other payment issues going on at the time.
The sub lapsed for an entire month? Your bank declined the charge and you didnt notice or what?
Where did they say even a day disqualifies you? They said you needed to be subbed from April (notice they said no date in April) to March 17th relaunch. Nowhere did they say a day or even a week would disqualify you. All you need is to be subbed every month from April to March 17th.Edited by Rosveen on January 31, 2015 2:54PM -
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They didn't say every month. They said subbed from April to March, no leeway. There's no basis to read it as "could miss a week as long as you got some time during that month". That's kinda exactly what "no leeway" implies. Of course, we dont know which day in April exactly and what "subbed" means (because April was covered by 30 free days and then we got 5 days more, so everyone started paying in May).jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »
Not for a month. Why are we talking about a month? They said no leeway, so even a day disqualifies you.jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »
Haha, if the payment went through, then yes.jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »
Because double charges in April and May were entirely Zenimax's fault and because of that many people's subs lapsed. Do you really feel it's fair to deny them the loyalty reward?jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »AshySamurai wrote: »jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »AshySamurai wrote: »
They have already answered. They said they "do not expect any leeway". I know its not the answer you want but its an answer none the less.
We all know how easily ZOS changes their mind. Why they shouldn't do it one more time?
If they start making exceptions they will never stop. I missed an hour. I missed a week. I missed a month. I missed 6 months. This is why they are most likely going to stick to their guns. I hope at least. Sick of them caving to the incessant whining of the forums. Why not just accept the fact you didnt sub 100% of the time so you dont qualify?
If it lapsed for a whole month then yes I feel it is fair. If you were double charged then how is that a lapse? If anything you double paid for the month. But my bank declined the charge, considering it suspicious, so my sub lapsed - I know others who experienced the same thing. Besides, there were other payment issues going on at the time.
The sub lapsed for an entire month? Your bank declined the charge and you didnt notice or what?
Where did they say even a day disqualifies you? They said you needed to be subbed from April (notice they said no date in April) to March 17th relaunch. Nowhere did they say a day or even a week would disqualify you. All you need is to be subbed every month from April to March 17th.
lol you are really reaching. Trust me if you had a sub sometime in april and every month through march 17th you will get the reward. Stop freaking out and reading stuff into it that isnt there. -
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✭✭AshySamurai wrote: »All who was subscribed at least one month funded the development of this game.rawne1980b16_ESO wrote: »AshySamurai wrote: »All who was subscribed at least one month funded the development of this game.
No, no they didn't.
Zenimax funded development. You paid Zenimax back.
Where do people get these ideas from?
Difference in definitions her I think.
@AshySamurai probably means that if you subbed at any time you funded the ongoing development of the game, which is partially true, the sub actually goes into the revenue pot, but without those subs ZOS would have pulled the plug.
While @Rawne1980b16_ESO is Probably talking about the initial development, which cost millions. And our subs have been paying off the initial cost, plus running costs, rather than going directly into funding the game.
If so, then both views have validity, But Rawne is closer to the way the finances work in reality.People believe what they either want to be true or what they are afraid is true!
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✭✭✭✭✭My worry is that everyone who has complimentary game time will once again be screwed by the system and end up having to petition to gain these pets.
Been subbed for the entire time ESO has been out but I have had seven days free game time due to bugs within in the game, this now pushes me back out of each first wave of pets every time.
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✭✭✭Whats the point of worrying about it right now? If you dont get it then worry. I dont see why people are so stressed out about this. All they will do is check did you have a sub setup each month at some point. Yes? Well you qualify. It mentions april yet noone paid for april it was free time included with the box purchase. So all you had to do was setup a sub correct?
Stop worrying so much. You will get the reward as long as you had a sub setup from april to march.Edited by jamesharv2005ub17_ESO on January 31, 2015 3:09PM -
rawne1980b16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭My worry is that everyone who has complimentary game time will once again be screwed by the system and end up having to petition to gain these pets.
Been subbed for the entire time ESO has been out but I have had seven days free game time due to bugs within in the game, this now pushes me back out of each first wave of pets every time.
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✭✭rawne1980b16_ESO wrote: »My worry is that everyone who has complimentary game time will once again be screwed by the system and end up having to petition to gain these pets.
Been subbed for the entire time ESO has been out but I have had seven days free game time due to bugs within in the game, this now pushes me back out of each first wave of pets every time.
Everybody did, I don't think that will be counted.
It will be, it has every single time.People believe what they either want to be true or what they are afraid is true!
Wizard's first rule
Passion rules reason
Wizard's third rule
Mind what people Do, not what they say, for actions betray a lie.
Wizard's fifth rule
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Jahoel✭✭✭jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »You will get the reward as long as you had a sub setup from april to march.
If we could get a green post like this, there wouldn't be much worry.
Fact is, we haven't. Hence the concern.
I don't think anyone is too stressed about it right now, because as you said - it's not time to stress it until it comes around and we don't get it. We are, for the most part, just voicing our concerns on the whole "no anticipated leeway" comment so that if these unfortunate cases that the players had no control over haven't already been considered, perhaps they will be - before the reward is handed out, rather than after.
I don't think I've read anyone who has missed more than a week or two asking to be given something they don't qualify for. If I missed such a post, I apologize. Those who willingly unsubbed for any extended period clearly do not meet the criteria - and I would not argue that with you. I think this thread is about another issue entirely - a few days or weeks of paid subscription lapse due to circumstances outside of our influence.Edited by Jahoel on January 31, 2015 5:14PM"Knowledge is chimera, for beyond it ever lies other knowledge, and the incompleteness of what is known renders the knowing false."
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✭✭✭jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »You will get the reward as long as you had a sub setup from april to march.
If we could get a green post like this, there wouldn't be much worry.
Fact is, we haven't. Hence the concern.
I don't think anyone is too stressed about it right now, because as you said - it's not time to stress it until it comes around and we don't get it. We are, for the most part, just voicing our concerns on the whole "no anticipated leeway" comment so that if these unfortunate cases that the players had no control over haven't already been considered, perhaps they will be - before the reward is handed out, rather than after.
I don't think I've read anyone who has missed more than a week or two asking to be given something they don't deserve. If I missed such a post, I apologize. Those who willingly unsubbed for any extended period clearly do not meet the criteria - and I would not argue that with you. I think this thread is about another issue entirely - a few days or weeks of subscription lapse due to circumstances outside of our influence.
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Jahoel✭✭✭jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »You have. The guy from ZOS said if you had a sub every month from april until march you get it. If not you dont.
Must have missed it. Could you link this for us? I think that would clear up a lot of the concerns. So far, all I've seen from ZOS is:
"subscribed from original launch through the Tamriel Unlimited transition"
"subscribed the entire time the game was sub-based"
"purchased the game and have subbed since April 2014 to March 17, 2015"
"I don't anticipate there being any leeway"
-Matt Firor, Reddit Tamriel Unlimited AUA (Link)
Thanks for trying to calm every one down
Edited by Jahoel on January 31, 2015 5:25PM"Knowledge is chimera, for beyond it ever lies other knowledge, and the incompleteness of what is known renders the knowing false."
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✭✭✭jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »You have. The guy from ZOS said if you had a sub every month from april until march you get it. If not you dont.
Must have missed it. Could you link this for us? I think that would clear up a lot of the concerns. So far, all I've seen from ZOS is:
"subscribed from original launch through the Tamriel Unlimited transition"
"subscribed the entire time the game was sub-based"
"purchased the game and have subbed since April 2014 to March 17, 2015"
"I do not anticipate there being any leeway"
-Matt Firor, Reddit Tamriel Unlimited AUA (Link)
Thanks for trying to calm every one down
It says April so clearly it counts free time. As I read it that says very clear all you need is to have setup a sub and kept it each month. If that means you missed a day or a few days and dont qualify then thats not cool at all. I think it means tho you could have missed a day or week and still count as paid for the month. -
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✭✭✭✭✭AlexDougherty wrote: »rawne1980b16_ESO wrote: »My worry is that everyone who has complimentary game time will once again be screwed by the system and end up having to petition to gain these pets.
Been subbed for the entire time ESO has been out but I have had seven days free game time due to bugs within in the game, this now pushes me back out of each first wave of pets every time.
Everybody did, I don't think that will be counted.
It will be, it has every single time.
Yup, only way to get pets on the first wave is to not played early access or had any additional bonus game time. If they're using the same system for the twelve month reward they're going to get a lot of petitions.@Turelus - EU PC Megaserver
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✭✭✭AlexDougherty wrote: »rawne1980b16_ESO wrote: »My worry is that everyone who has complimentary game time will once again be screwed by the system and end up having to petition to gain these pets.
Been subbed for the entire time ESO has been out but I have had seven days free game time due to bugs within in the game, this now pushes me back out of each first wave of pets every time.
Everybody did, I don't think that will be counted.
It will be, it has every single time.
Yup, only way to get pets on the first wave is to not played early access or had any additional bonus game time. If they're using the same system for the twelve month reward they're going to get a lot of petitions.
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Except that it doesn't say what you're assuming at all. In fact "subscribed the entire time the game was sub-based" and "I do not anticipate there being any leeway" would indicate that you can't have missed a week or a day or an hour...jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »You have. The guy from ZOS said if you had a sub every month from april until march you get it. If not you dont.
Must have missed it. Could you link this for us? I think that would clear up a lot of the concerns. So far, all I've seen from ZOS is:
"subscribed from original launch through the Tamriel Unlimited transition"
"subscribed the entire time the game was sub-based"
"purchased the game and have subbed since April 2014 to March 17, 2015"
"I do not anticipate there being any leeway"
-Matt Firor, Reddit Tamriel Unlimited AUA (Link)
Thanks for trying to calm every one down
It says April so clearly it counts free time. As I read it that says very clear all you need is to have setup a sub and kept it each month. If that means you missed a day or a few days and dont qualify then thats not cool at all. I think it means tho you could have missed a day or week and still count as paid for the month.
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Except that it doesn't say what you're assuming at all. In fact "subscribed the entire time the game was sub-based" and "I do not anticipate there being any leeway" would indicate that you can't have missed a week or a day or an hour...jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »You have. The guy from ZOS said if you had a sub every month from april until march you get it. If not you dont.
Must have missed it. Could you link this for us? I think that would clear up a lot of the concerns. So far, all I've seen from ZOS is:
"subscribed from original launch through the Tamriel Unlimited transition"
"subscribed the entire time the game was sub-based"
"purchased the game and have subbed since April 2014 to March 17, 2015"
"I do not anticipate there being any leeway"
-Matt Firor, Reddit Tamriel Unlimited AUA (Link)
Thanks for trying to calm every one down
It says April so clearly it counts free time. As I read it that says very clear all you need is to have setup a sub and kept it each month. If that means you missed a day or a few days and dont qualify then thats not cool at all. I think it means tho you could have missed a day or week and still count as paid for the month.
If you had an active sub every month including free time (April was free remember) then you qualify. You are the one assuming it means without even a 1 hour break. I am just going by what he said. -
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No, you're not going by what he said at all. You're ignoring the "subscribed the entire time" part of it. If your sub lapsed for any amount of time, then you weren't subscribed the entire time.jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »
Except that it doesn't say what you're assuming at all. In fact "subscribed the entire time the game was sub-based" and "I do not anticipate there being any leeway" would indicate that you can't have missed a week or a day or an hour...jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »You have. The guy from ZOS said if you had a sub every month from april until march you get it. If not you dont.
Must have missed it. Could you link this for us? I think that would clear up a lot of the concerns. So far, all I've seen from ZOS is:
"subscribed from original launch through the Tamriel Unlimited transition"
"subscribed the entire time the game was sub-based"
"purchased the game and have subbed since April 2014 to March 17, 2015"
"I do not anticipate there being any leeway"
-Matt Firor, Reddit Tamriel Unlimited AUA (Link)
Thanks for trying to calm every one down
It says April so clearly it counts free time. As I read it that says very clear all you need is to have setup a sub and kept it each month. If that means you missed a day or a few days and dont qualify then thats not cool at all. I think it means tho you could have missed a day or week and still count as paid for the month.
If you had an active sub every month including free time (April was free remember) then you qualify. You are the one assuming it means without even a 1 hour break. I am just going by what he said.
For your reference, here's the definition of entire:
en·tire
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adjective
adjective: entire
1.
with no part left out; whole.
"my plans are to travel the entire world"
synonyms: whole, complete, total, full;
undivided
"I devoted my entire life to him"
If your sub lapsed for a day, then that day is a part left out. By definition, you have then not been subscribed for the entire time.
Now perhaps that's not what he meant, but it is definitely what he said. So until and unless ZOS tells us otherwise, we have to assume that anybody whose sub lapsed for any amount of time (whether it be a week, a day, an hour...) will not be getting this reward.
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No, you're not going by what he said at all. You're ignoring the "subscribed the entire time" part of it. If your sub lapsed for any amount of time, then you weren't subscribed the entire time.jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »
Except that it doesn't say what you're assuming at all. In fact "subscribed the entire time the game was sub-based" and "I do not anticipate there being any leeway" would indicate that you can't have missed a week or a day or an hour...jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »You have. The guy from ZOS said if you had a sub every month from april until march you get it. If not you dont.
Must have missed it. Could you link this for us? I think that would clear up a lot of the concerns. So far, all I've seen from ZOS is:
"subscribed from original launch through the Tamriel Unlimited transition"
"subscribed the entire time the game was sub-based"
"purchased the game and have subbed since April 2014 to March 17, 2015"
"I do not anticipate there being any leeway"
-Matt Firor, Reddit Tamriel Unlimited AUA (Link)
Thanks for trying to calm every one down
It says April so clearly it counts free time. As I read it that says very clear all you need is to have setup a sub and kept it each month. If that means you missed a day or a few days and dont qualify then thats not cool at all. I think it means tho you could have missed a day or week and still count as paid for the month.
If you had an active sub every month including free time (April was free remember) then you qualify. You are the one assuming it means without even a 1 hour break. I am just going by what he said.
For your reference, here's the definition of entire:
en·tire
ənˈtī(ə)r/
adjective
adjective: entire
1.
with no part left out; whole.
"my plans are to travel the entire world"
synonyms: whole, complete, total, full;
undivided
"I devoted my entire life to him"
If your sub lapsed for a day, then that day is a part left out. By definition, you have then not been subscribed for the entire time.
Now perhaps that's not what he meant, but it is definitely what he said. So until and unless ZOS tells us otherwise, we have to assume that anybody whose sub lapsed for any amount of time (whether it be a week, a day, an hour...) will not be getting this reward.
Look you can play words games all day. You dont know what he meant by the entire time. Could just as easily mean every month. Just like no date was set for April. You can assume all you wish but i seriously doubt they will go make sure you were subbed every minute of every month since launch. More likely they will see if you had an active sub in each month. If so then you are good.
So relax.
[Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Rude and Insulting comments]Edited by ZOS_ShannonM on January 31, 2015 10:48PM -
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lol so actually understanding what a word means is playing word games? OK, sure...jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »
No, you're not going by what he said at all. You're ignoring the "subscribed the entire time" part of it. If your sub lapsed for any amount of time, then you weren't subscribed the entire time.jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »
Except that it doesn't say what you're assuming at all. In fact "subscribed the entire time the game was sub-based" and "I do not anticipate there being any leeway" would indicate that you can't have missed a week or a day or an hour...jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »You have. The guy from ZOS said if you had a sub every month from april until march you get it. If not you dont.
Must have missed it. Could you link this for us? I think that would clear up a lot of the concerns. So far, all I've seen from ZOS is:
"subscribed from original launch through the Tamriel Unlimited transition"
"subscribed the entire time the game was sub-based"
"purchased the game and have subbed since April 2014 to March 17, 2015"
"I do not anticipate there being any leeway"
-Matt Firor, Reddit Tamriel Unlimited AUA (Link)
Thanks for trying to calm every one down
It says April so clearly it counts free time. As I read it that says very clear all you need is to have setup a sub and kept it each month. If that means you missed a day or a few days and dont qualify then thats not cool at all. I think it means tho you could have missed a day or week and still count as paid for the month.
If you had an active sub every month including free time (April was free remember) then you qualify. You are the one assuming it means without even a 1 hour break. I am just going by what he said.
For your reference, here's the definition of entire:
en·tire
ənˈtī(ə)r/
adjective
adjective: entire
1.
with no part left out; whole.
"my plans are to travel the entire world"
synonyms: whole, complete, total, full;
undivided
"I devoted my entire life to him"
If your sub lapsed for a day, then that day is a part left out. By definition, you have then not been subscribed for the entire time.
Now perhaps that's not what he meant, but it is definitely what he said. So until and unless ZOS tells us otherwise, we have to assume that anybody whose sub lapsed for any amount of time (whether it be a week, a day, an hour...) will not be getting this reward.
Look you can play words games all day. You dont know what he meant by the entire time. Could just as easily mean every month. Just like no date was set for April. You can assume all you wish but i seriously doubt they will go make sure you were subbed every minute of every month since launch. More likely they will see if you had an active sub in each month. If so then you are good.
So relax.
The fact remains that you're the one making assumptions that he meant something different from what he actually said. Did he mean that? Maybe. If so he should have actually said it, instead of saying something that means the exact opposite.
Assuming that what he actually meant was "as long as you have an active sub at some point during every month" is a massive assumption on your part though, and here you are loudly proclaiming to everyone that he definitely meant something significantly different from what he actually said.
[Moderator Note: Edited quote to match moderated version]Edited by ZOS_ShannonM on January 31, 2015 10:49PM
Someone stole my sweetrollCaius Drusus Imperial DK (DC)
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Neesha Stalks-Shadows Argonian NB (EP)
Falidir Altmer Sorcr (AD)
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Fevassa Dunmer DK (EP)
Manut Redguard Temp (AD)
Tylera the Summoner Altmer Sorc (EP)
Svari Snake-Blood Nord DK (AD)Ashlyn D'Elyse Breton NB (EP)
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lol so actually understanding what a word means is playing word games? OK, sure...jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »
No, you're not going by what he said at all. You're ignoring the "subscribed the entire time" part of it. If your sub lapsed for any amount of time, then you weren't subscribed the entire time.jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »
Except that it doesn't say what you're assuming at all. In fact "subscribed the entire time the game was sub-based" and "I do not anticipate there being any leeway" would indicate that you can't have missed a week or a day or an hour...jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »You have. The guy from ZOS said if you had a sub every month from april until march you get it. If not you dont.
Must have missed it. Could you link this for us? I think that would clear up a lot of the concerns. So far, all I've seen from ZOS is:
"subscribed from original launch through the Tamriel Unlimited transition"
"subscribed the entire time the game was sub-based"
"purchased the game and have subbed since April 2014 to March 17, 2015"
"I do not anticipate there being any leeway"
-Matt Firor, Reddit Tamriel Unlimited AUA (Link)
Thanks for trying to calm every one down
It says April so clearly it counts free time. As I read it that says very clear all you need is to have setup a sub and kept it each month. If that means you missed a day or a few days and dont qualify then thats not cool at all. I think it means tho you could have missed a day or week and still count as paid for the month.
If you had an active sub every month including free time (April was free remember) then you qualify. You are the one assuming it means without even a 1 hour break. I am just going by what he said.
For your reference, here's the definition of entire:
en·tire
ənˈtī(ə)r/
adjective
adjective: entire
1.
with no part left out; whole.
"my plans are to travel the entire world"
synonyms: whole, complete, total, full;
undivided
"I devoted my entire life to him"
If your sub lapsed for a day, then that day is a part left out. By definition, you have then not been subscribed for the entire time.
Now perhaps that's not what he meant, but it is definitely what he said. So until and unless ZOS tells us otherwise, we have to assume that anybody whose sub lapsed for any amount of time (whether it be a week, a day, an hour...) will not be getting this reward.
Look you can play words games all day. You dont know what he meant by the entire time. Could just as easily mean every month. Just like no date was set for April. You can ASSume all you wish but i seriously doubt they will go make sure you were subbed every minute of every month since launch. More likely they will see if you had an active sub in each month. If so then you are good.
So relax.
The fact remains that you're the one making assumptions that he meant something different from what he actually said. Did he mean that? Maybe. If so he should have actually said it, instead of saying something that means the exact opposite.
Assuming that what he actually meant was "as long as you have an active sub at some point during every month" is a massive assumption on your part though, and here you are loudly proclaiming to everyone that he definitely meant something significantly different from what he actually said.
What you are doing is arguing semantics. Fine doom and gloom the forums with your semantics. I'll bookmark this be happy to come back and eat crow if you are correct. I wont continue to argue for now tho. -
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So taking what was said at face value, and reading exactly nothing into it that isn't there is "arguing semantics" now? And somehow interpreting "I do not anticipate there being any leeway" as "there will definitely be at least a couple of weeks of leeway" is the reasonable thing to do? I can only imagine the amount of mental gymnastics that must have gone into coming to that conclusion...jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »
lol so actually understanding what a word means is playing word games? OK, sure...jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »
No, you're not going by what he said at all. You're ignoring the "subscribed the entire time" part of it. If your sub lapsed for any amount of time, then you weren't subscribed the entire time.jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »
Except that it doesn't say what you're assuming at all. In fact "subscribed the entire time the game was sub-based" and "I do not anticipate there being any leeway" would indicate that you can't have missed a week or a day or an hour...jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »You have. The guy from ZOS said if you had a sub every month from april until march you get it. If not you dont.
Must have missed it. Could you link this for us? I think that would clear up a lot of the concerns. So far, all I've seen from ZOS is:
"subscribed from original launch through the Tamriel Unlimited transition"
"subscribed the entire time the game was sub-based"
"purchased the game and have subbed since April 2014 to March 17, 2015"
"I do not anticipate there being any leeway"
-Matt Firor, Reddit Tamriel Unlimited AUA (Link)
Thanks for trying to calm every one down
It says April so clearly it counts free time. As I read it that says very clear all you need is to have setup a sub and kept it each month. If that means you missed a day or a few days and dont qualify then thats not cool at all. I think it means tho you could have missed a day or week and still count as paid for the month.
If you had an active sub every month including free time (April was free remember) then you qualify. You are the one assuming it means without even a 1 hour break. I am just going by what he said.
For your reference, here's the definition of entire:
en·tire
ənˈtī(ə)r/
adjective
adjective: entire
1.
with no part left out; whole.
"my plans are to travel the entire world"
synonyms: whole, complete, total, full;
undivided
"I devoted my entire life to him"
If your sub lapsed for a day, then that day is a part left out. By definition, you have then not been subscribed for the entire time.
Now perhaps that's not what he meant, but it is definitely what he said. So until and unless ZOS tells us otherwise, we have to assume that anybody whose sub lapsed for any amount of time (whether it be a week, a day, an hour...) will not be getting this reward.
Look you can play words games all day. You dont know what he meant by the entire time. Could just as easily mean every month. Just like no date was set for April. You can ASSume all you wish but i seriously doubt they will go make sure you were subbed every minute of every month since launch. More likely they will see if you had an active sub in each month. If so then you are good.
So relax.
The fact remains that you're the one making assumptions that he meant something different from what he actually said. Did he mean that? Maybe. If so he should have actually said it, instead of saying something that means the exact opposite.
Assuming that what he actually meant was "as long as you have an active sub at some point during every month" is a massive assumption on your part though, and here you are loudly proclaiming to everyone that he definitely meant something significantly different from what he actually said.
What you are doing is arguing semantics. Fine doom and gloom the forums with your semantics. I'll bookmark this be happy to come back and eat crow if you are correct. I wont continue to argue for now tho.
The fact is that you're making claims that are directly contradicted by what ZOS has said, and you're pretending that your claims are definitely the way that it works, and that we don't need to hear anything else from ZOS to confirm it... Despite the fact that they said exactly the opposite.
And since you can't back that up or admit that you were just making things up and deciding that what you made up in your head was the truth, you've resorted to claiming that reading exactly what was written is "playing word games" and "arguing semantics".
Now is it possible that ZOS may change their mind on this? Sure. Is it possible that they misspoke and meant something different from what they said? Sure. Assuming that they definitely meant pretty much the exact opposite of what they said, and attacking everyone who dares to doubt you on that, however, is ridiculous.
Someone stole my sweetrollCaius Drusus Imperial DK (DC)
Bragg Ironhand Orc Temp (DC)
Neesha Stalks-Shadows Argonian NB (EP)
Falidir Altmer Sorcr (AD)
J'zharka Khajiit NB (AD)Isabeau Runeseer Breton Sorc (DC)
Fevassa Dunmer DK (EP)
Manut Redguard Temp (AD)
Tylera the Summoner Altmer Sorc (EP)
Svari Snake-Blood Nord DK (AD)Ashlyn D'Elyse Breton NB (EP)
Filindria Bosmer Temp (DC)
Vigbjorn the Wanderer Nord Warden (EP)
Hrokki Winterborn Breton Warden (DC)
Basks-in-the-Sunshine Argonian Temp