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I'll sum up what we've paid for over the past year:
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druidlore_ESOSoul Shriven@Mopar63
We are lied to every day, by they government, family, friends, people we trust.
So what does it matter if a company lies to you also, lying is the way of the world, we are all sinners, there are very few honest people left and it is all in the name of money....Might want to get used to it, it is gonna happen whether you like it or not.
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wenchmore420b14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
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Well said!! I too will gladly pay sub for ESO, but fell cheated by ESP plus..I've enjoyed the game and I don't regret having bought it (Imperial Edition) or having had the subscription. Truly I don't. I know others feel differently, but that's where I'm at.
However, that said, to expand on something the OP mentioned: The only new content at all -- at ANY level -- during the last year has been high level group content. Craglorn, arenas and trials, and group dungeons like the CoA. Not a single blessed new thing for the solo player. No new zones, no new quest lines, not at any level high or low. (Yes, I can go to Crag with my VR-rank characters and farm the heck out of resources and hope for nirns, but that's it. Everything else requires a group.)
It has also been my experience with many, many MMOs and years of gaming that when a game moves from subscription into B2P land, it declines and rather quickly becomes no longer worth playing. (For me, anyway.) B2P is almost always followed by F2P several months or a year later at the most -- or they drop the price to something super-low like $5-10 -- and items in the cash shops inflate in utility and necessity. ("Want the bank capacity the game should've had since the beginning? For a couple hundred bucks you can max out the slots." "Buy an 8-pack of Legendary-level crafting tempers for just $20!" Stuff like that. They call it 'convenience' but it'll be way more than that.)
Once the cost-of-entry drops low enough or becomes free, there'll be a huge returning influx of gold bots and spammers, too. I guarantee it.
Anyway, ESO was fun while it lasted, truly it was, but unless something really changes my mind, I will probably be canceling my subscription renewal when it's up at the end of this month. (And I've been here since Early Access...) Not interested in paying the same amount for ESO Plus. My only mistake was in believing Zenimax/Bethesda when they said they had very good reasons to stick with a subscription model, that it would result in a game with frequent content updates and much better support than the average B2P/F2P MMO.
Now they're about to become just another average B2P/F2P MMO, and as for content updates...well, we've seen what's happened (or not happened) there. A B2P/F2P MMO is not what I want to play.
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togmb16_ESO✭✭We have been told from the start of Beta that this game would stay a subscription model. It would not change there was no plans to change it.
Yet here we are today with a model so well thought out it can be quickly implemented and seems timed to lead into the console release.
The evidence suggests we have been lied to and our subscriptions where in essence funding for the finalization of the console development.
I do not mind that the game is changing to a B2P or even a F2P model. I do mind the bait and switch that Zen has performed on us. This reflects poorly on them as developers and on Bethesda as the parent company.
I do not trust a company that lies about it's plans and intentions to do anything good for the game going forward. Anyone staying with this game now is playing craps on quality. Very sad considering until this announcement I truly believed Zen cared and would word hard to give us a great product.
You get one chance and if you lie to me my money and efforts go elsewhere.
Well said. Thank you!Geistmaiden • Sorcerer (Heal/DD) -
Xsorus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Heck craglorn even turned out to be almost a complete failure. If it was not for trials and the dragonstar Arena, no one would even go there.
So....if it wasn't for Craglorn people wouldn't go to Craglorn?
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXpX7JMwRXtczc5GTrIYRIw
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olemanwinter✭✭✭✭✭I will stick around and see where this goes, but I will not invest anymore financially
Well, look at it this way. If it's not Pay-to-win then there really is no need to invest financially (you already did when you bought the game). If it is Pay-to-win then you don't want to be a part of it anyway.
So either way, your financial investment is over imo.
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gm_ESO✭Heck craglorn even turned out to be almost a complete failure. If it was not for trials and the dragonstar Arena, no one would even go there.
Heck, I only go to Crag to farm resources and nirncruxes. Trials and arenas? Requires a group. Dungeons? Requires a group. Craglorn in general, including its quest lines? Requires a group.
I don't mind grouping occasionally, but they haven't added one iota of solo player new content -- at any level, high or low -- since launch. A lot of evenings, I would just sign on, chat with my guildies and casually work my through the zones at my own leisurely pace. Once the solo or mostly-solo player is done with Cadwell's Gold and finished all the regular zones, that's it. There's nothing else left to do (other than farming) unless you can find a group to play in or feel like running with the Cyro zergs. Or playing everything all over again with a different character.
Most other MMOs at least have a variety of daily quests one can do. ESO? Just a bunch of crafting writs that, if you are maxed out on crafting as I am, on average just chew through far, far more resources than the rewards are worth.
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olemanwinter✭✭✭✭✭Yet here we are today with a model so well thought out it can be quickly implemented and seems timed to lead into the console release.
The evidence suggests we have been lied to and our subscriptions where in essence funding for the finalization of the console development.
They were NOT planning the new B2P model at the same time they WERE tracking our XP for Champion points. lulz.
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Korah_Eaglecry✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭1. Game-breaking bugs. The game launched with so many broken quests many of us couldn't progress for weeks (even months in some cases). We saw these bugs during the Beta, screamed and yelled that the game could not launch with so many broken quests, and it did anyway. Remember, you were a paying customer while ZOS took the time to work these out; they didn't fix them before launch. You were paying $15 a month for quests that were KNOWN to be broken during the Beta. The game launched with KNOWN broken quests, and you got charged while they fixed them.
2. Lackluster UI design. Guild functionality, guild stores, group-finder tool, etc. All of these are woefully lacking to the point of being broken (group finder is universally despised). One year in and UI is pitiful.
3. Poor game performance. If you PvP you know this too well. Cyrodiil is in a perpetual state of lag and crashes and boots. This has been the case since Day 1 despite literally every set of patch notes claiming to have "fixed" performance in Cyrodiil.
4. Craglorn. That's it. That's the "content" you got for an entire year's subscription. One new zone, a couple of mini raids, oh and some veteran modes of dungeons sprinkled in. One. Year's. Content.
5. Dyes and guild tabards. Oh yay!
That's it. That's what your entire year's subscription got you. If you had fun while playing, great, I am genuinely happy for you. But that doesn't excuse the lack of REAL content that was given while the Developers were putting our cash toward developing content that would be B2P.
No one put a gun to your head and forced you to sub. And no ones forcing you to stay.
If this is how youve felt about the game all along. Im not sure why you thought it was worth the 15 bucks a month. You didnt have to hand your money over. You could have and still can go somewhere else.
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Wifeaggro13✭✭✭✭✭
✭1. Game-breaking bugs. The game launched with so many broken quests many of us couldn't progress for weeks (even months in some cases). We saw these bugs during the Beta, screamed and yelled that the game could not launch with so many broken quests, and it did anyway. Remember, you were a paying customer while ZOS took the time to work these out; they didn't fix them before launch. You were paying $15 a month for quests that were KNOWN to be broken during the Beta. The game launched with KNOWN broken quests, and you got charged while they fixed them.
2. Lackluster UI design. Guild functionality, guild stores, group-finder tool, etc. All of these are woefully lacking to the point of being broken (group finder is universally despised). One year in and UI is pitiful.
3. Poor game performance. If you PvP you know this too well. Cyrodiil is in a perpetual state of lag and crashes and boots. This has been the case since Day 1 despite literally every set of patch notes claiming to have "fixed" performance in Cyrodiil.
4. Craglorn. That's it. That's the "content" you got for an entire year's subscription. One new zone, a couple of mini raids, oh and some veteran modes of dungeons sprinkled in. One. Year's. Content.
5. Dyes and guild tabards. Oh yay!
That's it. That's what your entire year's subscription got you. If you had fun while playing, great, I am genuinely happy for you. But that doesn't excuse the lack of REAL content that was given while the Developers were putting our cash toward developing content that would be B2P.
Your right it sure was no Rift. Unfortunately many said it long ago. PC release was a paid beta for Console and the actual launch game. I am dis appointed in Zos, was very shady to claim the guilds and many other premium features would be in the game shortly after launch.
Very shady, but i still like the game. you can be sure there is a crap load of content they are holding onto for DLC post the B2p freemium change. we are not getting brotherhood or thieves guild for free that is for sure. -
Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »1. Game-breaking bugs. The game launched with so many broken quests many of us couldn't progress for weeks (even months in some cases). We saw these bugs during the Beta, screamed and yelled that the game could not launch with so many broken quests, and it did anyway. Remember, you were a paying customer while ZOS took the time to work these out; they didn't fix them before launch. You were paying $15 a month for quests that were KNOWN to be broken during the Beta. The game launched with KNOWN broken quests, and you got charged while they fixed them.
2. Lackluster UI design. Guild functionality, guild stores, group-finder tool, etc. All of these are woefully lacking to the point of being broken (group finder is universally despised). One year in and UI is pitiful.
3. Poor game performance. If you PvP you know this too well. Cyrodiil is in a perpetual state of lag and crashes and boots. This has been the case since Day 1 despite literally every set of patch notes claiming to have "fixed" performance in Cyrodiil.
4. Craglorn. That's it. That's the "content" you got for an entire year's subscription. One new zone, a couple of mini raids, oh and some veteran modes of dungeons sprinkled in. One. Year's. Content.
5. Dyes and guild tabards. Oh yay!
That's it. That's what your entire year's subscription got you. If you had fun while playing, great, I am genuinely happy for you. But that doesn't excuse the lack of REAL content that was given while the Developers were putting our cash toward developing content that would be B2P.
No one put a gun to your head and forced you to sub. And no ones forcing you to stay.
If this is how youve felt about the game all along. Im not sure why you thought it was worth the 15 bucks a month. You didnt have to hand your money over. You could have and still can go somewhere else.
Maybe I'm illiterate but I'm not seeing where he said he didn't enjoy his time on ESO. Can you point me to that statement?
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You didn't mention the new zones our subscription paid for that will be released as DLC to be paid again either by those of us that remain, or by the new players.
A subscription is mostly dedicated to paying for new content. Operating costs for an MMO are very low, you only have the servers, some IT and support staff and that's it. Maybe only 1 euro of your sub goes for that, and that's being generous.
You pay a sub to pay the devs and artists creating new content and improving the game. And in this case, most of this is going to be the early on DLC to justify the ESO+ subscription or the use of crowns for console players. -
Grapdjan✭✭✭✭We have been told from the start of Beta that this game would stay a subscription model. It would not change there was no plans to change it.
Yet here we are today with a model so well thought out it can be quickly implemented and seems timed to lead into the console release.
The evidence suggests we have been lied to and our subscriptions where in essence funding for the finalization of the console development.
I do not mind that the game is changing to a B2P or even a F2P model. I do mind the bait and switch that Zen has performed on us. This reflects poorly on them as developers and on Bethesda as the parent company.
I do not trust a company that lies about it's plans and intentions to do anything good for the game going forward. Anyone staying with this game now is playing craps on quality. Very sad considering until this announcement I truly believed Zen cared and would word hard to give us a great product.
You get one chance and if you lie to me my money and efforts go elsewhere.
Where is the 'what a load of crap' button?
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✭Takes a special kind of idiot like you to stay subbed for this long and then complain even though you knew you could have just waited and played a better game eventually. -
daktary2001✭✭✭If that sucks so much hairy donkey balls why are you still here ? The door always was here lad. Just leave you really are embarrassing yourself ... -
Dazin93✭✭✭✭We have been told from the start of Beta that this game would stay a subscription model. It would not change there was no plans to change it.
Yet here we are today with a model so well thought out it can be quickly implemented and seems timed to lead into the console release.
The evidence suggests we have been lied to and our subscriptions where in essence funding for the finalization of the console development.
I do not mind that the game is changing to a B2P or even a F2P model. I do mind the bait and switch that Zen has performed on us. This reflects poorly on them as developers and on Bethesda as the parent company.
I do not trust a company that lies about it's plans and intentions to do anything good for the game going forward. Anyone staying with this game now is playing craps on quality. Very sad considering until this announcement I truly believed Zen cared and would word hard to give us a great product.
You get one chance and if you lie to me my money and efforts go elsewhere.
Where is the 'what a load of crap' button?
That button is reserved for all your fanboi posts and especially for the one in which you stated forum posters are the minority with overinflated opinions of themselves; obviously not applicable to yourself of course. -
Kilandros✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭What we paid for since launch:
1. Access to a game called Elder Scrolls Online.
The end. If you did not get your moneys worth, why are you still here?
Correction: What we paid for since launch:
1. Access to a game called Elder Scrolls Online for $15/month to develop content like the Champion and Justice systems that would be B2P for later players.
Fixed that for you. See what the issue is now?Invictus
Kilandros - Dragonknight / Grand Overlord
Deimos - Templar / Grand Warlord
Sias - Sorcerer / PrefectZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »Short answer is DKs likely won't be seeing a ton of changes before we go live; this class is still quite powerful (as it should be being a tank), even after some of the adjustments we've made to other classes and abilities.
DK IS NOT JUST A TANK CLASS. #PLAYTHEWAYYOUWANT -
SFBryan18✭✭✭✭✭
✭What we paid for since launch:
1. Access to a game called Elder Scrolls Online.
The end. If you did not get your moneys worth, why are you still here?
Correction: What we paid for since launch:
1. Access to a game called Elder Scrolls Online for $15/month to develop content like the Champion and Justice systems that would be B2P for later players.
Fixed that for you. See what the issue is now?
No. You got exactly what they said you would get. During the time you played, they developed improvements that had nothing to do with you. All additions to the game are developed on separate servers and added when they are finished. Just because you were playing during some development does not mean the game you were playing had anything to do with it.Edited by SFBryan18 on January 22, 2015 12:47PM -
Kilandros✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭What we paid for since launch:
1. Access to a game called Elder Scrolls Online.
The end. If you did not get your moneys worth, why are you still here?
Correction: What we paid for since launch:
1. Access to a game called Elder Scrolls Online for $15/month to develop content like the Champion and Justice systems that would be B2P for later players.
Fixed that for you. See what the issue is now?
No. You got exactly what they said you would get. During the time you played, they developed improvements that had nothing to do with you. All additions to the game are developed on separate servers and added when they are finished. Just because you were playing during some development does not mean the game you were playing had anything to do with it.
Keep drinking the kool-aid. Just let ZOS walk all over you and do whatever they want, right? Those content updates every 4-6 weeks they promised for your subscription fee? Psh. All those quests that were broken during the Beta, that launched broken, that we paid to be fixed? Psh.
The entire game that is going B2P only after it's finally polished with class balance and animation changes? Changes we paid for while being developed? Psh. No biggy, right?
There's a Bridge in Brooklyn I'd love to sell you.Invictus
Kilandros - Dragonknight / Grand Overlord
Deimos - Templar / Grand Warlord
Sias - Sorcerer / PrefectZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »Short answer is DKs likely won't be seeing a ton of changes before we go live; this class is still quite powerful (as it should be being a tank), even after some of the adjustments we've made to other classes and abilities.
DK IS NOT JUST A TANK CLASS. #PLAYTHEWAYYOUWANT -
Digiman✭✭✭✭✭@Kilandros : I completely agree with you. Since launch this game has been busy playing catch up while dining on the backs of its loyal subscribers. But I wouldn't call this game boring and for the most part I have enjoyed playing through it, I do love the skill system and reward system for playing progressing through main story lines with more SP was very attractive as well as exploring dungeons and zones with skyshards.
PvP is a bit of a mess 1vs1 but larger scale it was fun for me and I have enjoyed for the most part the grinding of dailies in Cyrodiil.
Never really experienced Craglorn as the LFG tool is piece of crap that couldn't pair two socks even if they were sitting on a table infront of its eyes.
The new system looks like its really rewarding (Not compensating) loyal customers and is doing a good job for me to keep me around (Though that isn't really hard to do) while attracting the old players who left and hopefully the new.
Right now the current system for playing is a damn punchline and I am glad they have finally changed. This would of been better if they did this at launch though, but it's better then not doing anything at all. -
SFBryan18✭✭✭✭✭
✭What we paid for since launch:
1. Access to a game called Elder Scrolls Online.
The end. If you did not get your moneys worth, why are you still here?
Correction: What we paid for since launch:
1. Access to a game called Elder Scrolls Online for $15/month to develop content like the Champion and Justice systems that would be B2P for later players.
Fixed that for you. See what the issue is now?
No. You got exactly what they said you would get. During the time you played, they developed improvements that had nothing to do with you. All additions to the game are developed on separate servers and added when they are finished. Just because you were playing during some development does not mean the game you were playing had anything to do with it.
Keep drinking the kool-aid. Just let ZOS walk all over you and do whatever they want, right? Those content updates every 4-6 weeks they promised for your subscription fee? Psh. All those quests that were broken during the Beta, that launched broken, that we paid to be fixed? Psh.
The entire game that is going B2P only after it's finally polished with class balance and animation changes? Changes we paid for while being developed? Psh. No biggy, right?
There's a Bridge in Brooklyn I'd love to sell you.
How they choose to spend their money is none of your business. As far as they are concerned, they made a game, you paid to play it, and then you played it. The sale is complete. And the suggestion that because you paid a subscription, you were guaranteed anything other than playing during that subscription is pretty ridiculous. You don't go buy a car, and then after driving it, accuse the dealer of making better cars with your money and demand compensation. That's just plain stupid. No one is drinking anything, you're just throwing a tantrum. No please, stop acting like a child.Edited by SFBryan18 on January 22, 2015 12:49PM -
Kilandros✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭What we paid for since launch:
1. Access to a game called Elder Scrolls Online.
The end. If you did not get your moneys worth, why are you still here?
Correction: What we paid for since launch:
1. Access to a game called Elder Scrolls Online for $15/month to develop content like the Champion and Justice systems that would be B2P for later players.
Fixed that for you. See what the issue is now?
No. You got exactly what they said you would get. During the time you played, they developed improvements that had nothing to do with you. All additions to the game are developed on separate servers and added when they are finished. Just because you were playing during some development does not mean the game you were playing had anything to do with it.
Keep drinking the kool-aid. Just let ZOS walk all over you and do whatever they want, right? Those content updates every 4-6 weeks they promised for your subscription fee? Psh. All those quests that were broken during the Beta, that launched broken, that we paid to be fixed? Psh.
The entire game that is going B2P only after it's finally polished with class balance and animation changes? Changes we paid for while being developed? Psh. No biggy, right?
There's a Bridge in Brooklyn I'd love to sell you.
How they choose to spend their money is none of your business. As far as they are concerned, they made a game, you paid to play it, and then you played it. The sale is complete. And the suggestion that because you paid a subscription, you were guaranteed anything other than playing during that subscription is pretty ridiculous. You don't go buy a car, and then after driving it, accuse the dealer of making better cars with your money and demand compensation. That's just plain stupid. No one is drinking anything, you're just throwing a tantrum.
You're in denial. You want to love the game--I understand that. But they advertised a subscription model without ever intending to keep that model long term. They advertised content every 4-6 weeks, but instead spent the first year and its revenue developing the game to be re-released for B2P players.
You got had. Plain and simple. Stop defending a company that literally screwed you over. Wake up dude. This isn't the game you thought it was. This isn't the game you hoped it was. Do yourself a favor and actually think about what just happened before sinking 2-3 more years watching this game slowly circle the drain as the developers focus on developing the in-game store at the expense of everything else.Invictus
Kilandros - Dragonknight / Grand Overlord
Deimos - Templar / Grand Warlord
Sias - Sorcerer / PrefectZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »Short answer is DKs likely won't be seeing a ton of changes before we go live; this class is still quite powerful (as it should be being a tank), even after some of the adjustments we've made to other classes and abilities.
DK IS NOT JUST A TANK CLASS. #PLAYTHEWAYYOUWANT -
SFBryan18✭✭✭✭✭
✭What we paid for since launch:
1. Access to a game called Elder Scrolls Online.
The end. If you did not get your moneys worth, why are you still here?
Correction: What we paid for since launch:
1. Access to a game called Elder Scrolls Online for $15/month to develop content like the Champion and Justice systems that would be B2P for later players.
Fixed that for you. See what the issue is now?
No. You got exactly what they said you would get. During the time you played, they developed improvements that had nothing to do with you. All additions to the game are developed on separate servers and added when they are finished. Just because you were playing during some development does not mean the game you were playing had anything to do with it.
Keep drinking the kool-aid. Just let ZOS walk all over you and do whatever they want, right? Those content updates every 4-6 weeks they promised for your subscription fee? Psh. All those quests that were broken during the Beta, that launched broken, that we paid to be fixed? Psh.
The entire game that is going B2P only after it's finally polished with class balance and animation changes? Changes we paid for while being developed? Psh. No biggy, right?
There's a Bridge in Brooklyn I'd love to sell you.
How they choose to spend their money is none of your business. As far as they are concerned, they made a game, you paid to play it, and then you played it. The sale is complete. And the suggestion that because you paid a subscription, you were guaranteed anything other than playing during that subscription is pretty ridiculous. You don't go buy a car, and then after driving it, accuse the dealer of making better cars with your money and demand compensation. That's just plain stupid. No one is drinking anything, you're just throwing a tantrum.
You're in denial. You want to love the game--I understand that. But they advertised a subscription model without ever intending to keep that model long term. They advertised content every 4-6 weeks, but instead spent the first year and its revenue developing the game to be re-released for B2P players.
You got had. Plain and simple. Stop defending a company that literally screwed you over. Wake up dude. This isn't the game you thought it was. This isn't the game you hoped it was. Do yourself a favor and actually think about what just happened before sinking 2-3 more years watching this game slowly circle the drain as the developers focus on developing the in-game store at the expense of everything else.
You have very bias and flawed logic, and you accusation that I am in denial is pure hypocrisy. You got exactly what you paid for.Edited by SFBryan18 on January 22, 2015 12:55PM -
Kilandros✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭What we paid for since launch:
1. Access to a game called Elder Scrolls Online.
The end. If you did not get your moneys worth, why are you still here?
Correction: What we paid for since launch:
1. Access to a game called Elder Scrolls Online for $15/month to develop content like the Champion and Justice systems that would be B2P for later players.
Fixed that for you. See what the issue is now?
No. You got exactly what they said you would get. During the time you played, they developed improvements that had nothing to do with you. All additions to the game are developed on separate servers and added when they are finished. Just because you were playing during some development does not mean the game you were playing had anything to do with it.
Keep drinking the kool-aid. Just let ZOS walk all over you and do whatever they want, right? Those content updates every 4-6 weeks they promised for your subscription fee? Psh. All those quests that were broken during the Beta, that launched broken, that we paid to be fixed? Psh.
The entire game that is going B2P only after it's finally polished with class balance and animation changes? Changes we paid for while being developed? Psh. No biggy, right?
There's a Bridge in Brooklyn I'd love to sell you.
How they choose to spend their money is none of your business. As far as they are concerned, they made a game, you paid to play it, and then you played it. The sale is complete. And the suggestion that because you paid a subscription, you were guaranteed anything other than playing during that subscription is pretty ridiculous. You don't go buy a car, and then after driving it, accuse the dealer of making better cars with your money and demand compensation. That's just plain stupid. No one is drinking anything, you're just throwing a tantrum.
You're in denial. You want to love the game--I understand that. But they advertised a subscription model without ever intending to keep that model long term. They advertised content every 4-6 weeks, but instead spent the first year and its revenue developing the game to be re-released for B2P players.
You got had. Plain and simple. Stop defending a company that literally screwed you over. Wake up dude. This isn't the game you thought it was. This isn't the game you hoped it was. Do yourself a favor and actually think about what just happened before sinking 2-3 more years watching this game slowly circle the drain as the developers focus on developing the in-game store at the expense of everything else.
You have very bias and flawed logic, and you accusation that I am in denial is pure hypocrisy.
Sorry buddy, I tried. Enjoy ESO until it becomes a cash shop driven disaster like GW2.Invictus
Kilandros - Dragonknight / Grand Overlord
Deimos - Templar / Grand Warlord
Sias - Sorcerer / PrefectZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »Short answer is DKs likely won't be seeing a ton of changes before we go live; this class is still quite powerful (as it should be being a tank), even after some of the adjustments we've made to other classes and abilities.
DK IS NOT JUST A TANK CLASS. #PLAYTHEWAYYOUWANT
