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Stealth Nerf Grind
themizario
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So with the latest patch Rkund was stealth nerfed from 20k xp to 1800xp.
I'm not complaining, I just don't see how an instanced dungeon disrupts other players like the Scorpion grind did.
My point of this thread though: ESO has some really creative players, if someone finds a new awesome grind spot. Instead of sharing it in the forums or in zone, can we come up with a way to let players know WITHOUT letting ZOS know?
Tricky I know but "LFG VR GRIND" will only keep getting stuff nerfed.
They read the Reddit forums too. So open to ideas.
I'm not complaining, I just don't see how an instanced dungeon disrupts other players like the Scorpion grind did.
My point of this thread though: ESO has some really creative players, if someone finds a new awesome grind spot. Instead of sharing it in the forums or in zone, can we come up with a way to let players know WITHOUT letting ZOS know?
Tricky I know but "LFG VR GRIND" will only keep getting stuff nerfed.
They read the Reddit forums too. So open to ideas.
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✭Players will always look for the fastest way to level. ZoS will keep nerfing..Fire Cloak - VR12 DK - Nord - EP
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rophez_ESO✭✭✭✭✭themizario wrote: »So with the latest patch Rkund was stealth nerfed from 20k xp to 1800xp.
I'm not complaining, I just don't see how an instanced dungeon disrupts other players like the Scorpion grind did.
My point of this thread though: ESO has some really creative players, if someone finds a new awesome grind spot. Instead of sharing it in the forums or in zone, can we come up with a way to let players know WITHOUT letting ZOS know?
Tricky I know but "LFG VR GRIND" will only keep getting stuff nerfed.
They read the Reddit forums too. So open to ideas.
I wonder if having lots of duos constantly zoning in and out of an instance, disbanding, making new instance, etc. was contributing to system lag. Maybe not; maybe they just didn't like how cheesy it was.
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✭It was a really stupid decision to make a vet level need 10x the XP as a normal level.Killed by Sunshine 1vX How I see it.
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✭✭✭✭✭Its actually a very poor decision on zenimax to keep nerfing the grinds, the only people using the grinds at this point are players with multiple max level characters, giving them more playability in different factions or classes. Nerfing the grind will force them to play the extremely dull and boring quest system that this game has. Which will reduce the playability from those players and they will end up quitting or something along the lines.
It may be a good idea to stop nerfing your game as we dont want to do the dull questing a thousand times over
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OMG really... I was headed there tonight to level my ALT Main Duplicate..Edited by whiteshadow711jppreub18_ESO on January 13, 2015 1:42AMSigned,
Kotaro Atani.
PS4 NAVR16/ CP 160 Khajiit Nightblade of the Aldmeri Dominion, Guildmaster and Assassin of the Queen's Hand guild on NA PC. PvP Officer in the WOLF guild on NA PS4, and of course Master Thief. currently 1534 CP out of 3600 CP on NA PS4. Currently 728 CP on NA PC (used for PTS testing purposes only). On PS4 I am also a Master Crafter, all traits done and learned, Jewelry crafting done. all Motifs learned on PS4 except for maybe two Motifs.
Warrior, Lover, Thief.... Nightblade.
Aldmeri Dominion For Life! For the Queen!! Go Dominion or go home !
"I have no hatred for the races of Man, but they are young. Like all children, they are driven by emotion. They lack the wisdom that comes with age. I would sooner place an Altmer infant on the Ruby Throne than surrender Tamriel to their capricious whims. The Altmer, the Bosmer and the Khajiit share the common traits of intelligence, patience and reason. We do not seek riches or plunder. Domination is not our goal, nor is the acclamation of power for its own sake. Today we make our stand. Today we take back the Ruby Throne, which is ours by ancient right and the blessings of the Divines. Stand with us." ―Your Queen Commands, Ayrenn Arana Aldmeri.
(All 18 characters are AD only!)
http://tamrielfoundry.com/members/kotaro-atani/ / http://i58.tinypic.com/25p6yd2.png http://i66.tinypic.com/5bc5e.png
Member of ESO Since January 29, 2014, started early Access 3/30/14 on PC, currently subbed on NA PS4 and on NA PC. Note- I only use PC for PTS testing purposes, the PS4 is my dedicated Game Platform.
Note- for those that don't know how to say Kotaro Atani it's "Ko tar row Ah ta ni" (Ko with a Oh sound, tar which sounds like the sticky black tar stuff, row like rowing a boat, Ah with a AHHHH sound, Ta with a Tahhh sound, Neeee which sounds like knee)
Things ZOS needs to Fix:"Lag in PvP" / AOE's need to run for their time stated in the Tool Tip, especially Ultimate's / Smart drops are still not smart / Fix it ZOS, fix it.
"The blowing sands of time wipe clean the footprints of the past..."
"Moonsugar may be the key to paradise, but it is through a false door..."
"A perfect society is always elsewhere..."
- Unknown book of Khajiiti proverbs. -
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Eumonia✭Omg guys are you serious? Did they really nerf it ?
I'm just gonna cry right now. Got 5 V14, leveling my 6th on another alliance. Don't want to spend hours on that. Grinding is just too important, stop nerfing every nice Grinding spot in this game :cEdited by Eumonia on January 13, 2015 2:24AMOrtie / Eumonia
DK DD and Tank.
Hodor guild (EU EP)
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✭✭✭✭✭Omg guys are you serious? Did they really nerf it ?
I'm just gonna cry right now. Got 5 V14, leveling my 6th on another alliance. Don't want to spend hours on that. Grinding is just too important, stop nerfing every nice Grinding spot in this game :c
Odds are they're preparing for 1.6. The idea is that everything should be equal, so they don't want grinding to yield more CP than any other in-game activity. Hopefully, it encourages people to actually play the game.----
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nerevarine1138 wrote: »
Because it ain't gonna be phased out yet, for like atleast another month... if not more, and I want to level my ALT Main Duplicate to VR14....Signed,
Kotaro Atani.
PS4 NAVR16/ CP 160 Khajiit Nightblade of the Aldmeri Dominion, Guildmaster and Assassin of the Queen's Hand guild on NA PC. PvP Officer in the WOLF guild on NA PS4, and of course Master Thief. currently 1534 CP out of 3600 CP on NA PS4. Currently 728 CP on NA PC (used for PTS testing purposes only). On PS4 I am also a Master Crafter, all traits done and learned, Jewelry crafting done. all Motifs learned on PS4 except for maybe two Motifs.
Warrior, Lover, Thief.... Nightblade.
Aldmeri Dominion For Life! For the Queen!! Go Dominion or go home !
"I have no hatred for the races of Man, but they are young. Like all children, they are driven by emotion. They lack the wisdom that comes with age. I would sooner place an Altmer infant on the Ruby Throne than surrender Tamriel to their capricious whims. The Altmer, the Bosmer and the Khajiit share the common traits of intelligence, patience and reason. We do not seek riches or plunder. Domination is not our goal, nor is the acclamation of power for its own sake. Today we make our stand. Today we take back the Ruby Throne, which is ours by ancient right and the blessings of the Divines. Stand with us." ―Your Queen Commands, Ayrenn Arana Aldmeri.
(All 18 characters are AD only!)
http://tamrielfoundry.com/members/kotaro-atani/ / http://i58.tinypic.com/25p6yd2.png http://i66.tinypic.com/5bc5e.png
Member of ESO Since January 29, 2014, started early Access 3/30/14 on PC, currently subbed on NA PS4 and on NA PC. Note- I only use PC for PTS testing purposes, the PS4 is my dedicated Game Platform.
Note- for those that don't know how to say Kotaro Atani it's "Ko tar row Ah ta ni" (Ko with a Oh sound, tar which sounds like the sticky black tar stuff, row like rowing a boat, Ah with a AHHHH sound, Ta with a Tahhh sound, Neeee which sounds like knee)
Things ZOS needs to Fix:"Lag in PvP" / AOE's need to run for their time stated in the Tool Tip, especially Ultimate's / Smart drops are still not smart / Fix it ZOS, fix it.
"The blowing sands of time wipe clean the footprints of the past..."
"Moonsugar may be the key to paradise, but it is through a false door..."
"A perfect society is always elsewhere..."
- Unknown book of Khajiiti proverbs. -
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✭✭✭✭✭whiteshadow711jppreub18_ESO wrote: »nerevarine1138 wrote: »
Because it ain't gonna be phased out yet, for like atleast another month... if not more, and I want to level my ALT Main Duplicate to VR14....
Cool. So play the game. I've never needed to grind on any of my characters, and they level just fine.----
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nerevarine1138 wrote: »whiteshadow711jppreub18_ESO wrote: »nerevarine1138 wrote: »
Because it ain't gonna be phased out yet, for like atleast another month... if not more, and I want to level my ALT Main Duplicate to VR14....
Cool. So play the game. I've never needed to grind on any of my characters, and they level just fine.
Actually I will only grind, do dailies, or PvP with my ALT Main Duplicate (Kotaro-Atani), I am saving the quests for when the Champion System arrives on the live server..Signed,
Kotaro Atani.
PS4 NAVR16/ CP 160 Khajiit Nightblade of the Aldmeri Dominion, Guildmaster and Assassin of the Queen's Hand guild on NA PC. PvP Officer in the WOLF guild on NA PS4, and of course Master Thief. currently 1534 CP out of 3600 CP on NA PS4. Currently 728 CP on NA PC (used for PTS testing purposes only). On PS4 I am also a Master Crafter, all traits done and learned, Jewelry crafting done. all Motifs learned on PS4 except for maybe two Motifs.
Warrior, Lover, Thief.... Nightblade.
Aldmeri Dominion For Life! For the Queen!! Go Dominion or go home !
"I have no hatred for the races of Man, but they are young. Like all children, they are driven by emotion. They lack the wisdom that comes with age. I would sooner place an Altmer infant on the Ruby Throne than surrender Tamriel to their capricious whims. The Altmer, the Bosmer and the Khajiit share the common traits of intelligence, patience and reason. We do not seek riches or plunder. Domination is not our goal, nor is the acclamation of power for its own sake. Today we make our stand. Today we take back the Ruby Throne, which is ours by ancient right and the blessings of the Divines. Stand with us." ―Your Queen Commands, Ayrenn Arana Aldmeri.
(All 18 characters are AD only!)
http://tamrielfoundry.com/members/kotaro-atani/ / http://i58.tinypic.com/25p6yd2.png http://i66.tinypic.com/5bc5e.png
Member of ESO Since January 29, 2014, started early Access 3/30/14 on PC, currently subbed on NA PS4 and on NA PC. Note- I only use PC for PTS testing purposes, the PS4 is my dedicated Game Platform.
Note- for those that don't know how to say Kotaro Atani it's "Ko tar row Ah ta ni" (Ko with a Oh sound, tar which sounds like the sticky black tar stuff, row like rowing a boat, Ah with a AHHHH sound, Ta with a Tahhh sound, Neeee which sounds like knee)
Things ZOS needs to Fix:"Lag in PvP" / AOE's need to run for their time stated in the Tool Tip, especially Ultimate's / Smart drops are still not smart / Fix it ZOS, fix it.
"The blowing sands of time wipe clean the footprints of the past..."
"Moonsugar may be the key to paradise, but it is through a false door..."
"A perfect society is always elsewhere..."
- Unknown book of Khajiiti proverbs. -
Jaxsun✭✭✭✭themizario wrote: »So with the latest patch Rkund was stealth nerfed from 20k xp to 1800xp.
I'm not complaining, I just don't see how an instanced dungeon disrupts other players like the Scorpion grind did.
My point of this thread though: ESO has some really creative players, if someone finds a new awesome grind spot. Instead of sharing it in the forums or in zone, can we come up with a way to let players know WITHOUT letting ZOS know?
Tricky I know but "LFG VR GRIND" will only keep getting stuff nerfed.
They read the Reddit forums too. So open to ideas.
If that's true: So, we can't quest to reach vr 14 because we won't get credit for the xp if we're already at capped CP, grinding is yet again being nerfed, PVP is broke(and has nothing to do with *** deer to start with), it's like they want us all to unsub until after 1.6. Seriously, what a *** joke ZOS is. I wouldn't hire any of them to run a lemonade stand at the end of my driveway... -
themizario wrote: »So with the latest patch Rkund was stealth nerfed from 20k xp to 1800xp.
I'm not complaining, I just don't see how an instanced dungeon disrupts other players like the Scorpion grind did.
My point of this thread though: ESO has some really creative players, if someone finds a new awesome grind spot. Instead of sharing it in the forums or in zone, can we come up with a way to let players know WITHOUT letting ZOS know?
Tricky I know but "LFG VR GRIND" will only keep getting stuff nerfed.
They read the Reddit forums too. So open to ideas.
If that's true: So, we can't quest to reach vr 14 because we won't get credit for the xp if we're already at capped CP, grinding is yet again being nerfed, PVP is broke(and has nothing to do with *** deer to start with), it's like they want us all to unsub until after 1.6. Seriously, what a *** joke ZOS is.
YUP...So Awesome isn't it..
Signed,
Kotaro Atani.
PS4 NAVR16/ CP 160 Khajiit Nightblade of the Aldmeri Dominion, Guildmaster and Assassin of the Queen's Hand guild on NA PC. PvP Officer in the WOLF guild on NA PS4, and of course Master Thief. currently 1534 CP out of 3600 CP on NA PS4. Currently 728 CP on NA PC (used for PTS testing purposes only). On PS4 I am also a Master Crafter, all traits done and learned, Jewelry crafting done. all Motifs learned on PS4 except for maybe two Motifs.
Warrior, Lover, Thief.... Nightblade.
Aldmeri Dominion For Life! For the Queen!! Go Dominion or go home !
"I have no hatred for the races of Man, but they are young. Like all children, they are driven by emotion. They lack the wisdom that comes with age. I would sooner place an Altmer infant on the Ruby Throne than surrender Tamriel to their capricious whims. The Altmer, the Bosmer and the Khajiit share the common traits of intelligence, patience and reason. We do not seek riches or plunder. Domination is not our goal, nor is the acclamation of power for its own sake. Today we make our stand. Today we take back the Ruby Throne, which is ours by ancient right and the blessings of the Divines. Stand with us." ―Your Queen Commands, Ayrenn Arana Aldmeri.
(All 18 characters are AD only!)
http://tamrielfoundry.com/members/kotaro-atani/ / http://i58.tinypic.com/25p6yd2.png http://i66.tinypic.com/5bc5e.png
Member of ESO Since January 29, 2014, started early Access 3/30/14 on PC, currently subbed on NA PS4 and on NA PC. Note- I only use PC for PTS testing purposes, the PS4 is my dedicated Game Platform.
Note- for those that don't know how to say Kotaro Atani it's "Ko tar row Ah ta ni" (Ko with a Oh sound, tar which sounds like the sticky black tar stuff, row like rowing a boat, Ah with a AHHHH sound, Ta with a Tahhh sound, Neeee which sounds like knee)
Things ZOS needs to Fix:"Lag in PvP" / AOE's need to run for their time stated in the Tool Tip, especially Ultimate's / Smart drops are still not smart / Fix it ZOS, fix it.
"The blowing sands of time wipe clean the footprints of the past..."
"Moonsugar may be the key to paradise, but it is through a false door..."
"A perfect society is always elsewhere..."
- Unknown book of Khajiiti proverbs. -
Jaxsun✭✭✭✭whiteshadow711jppreub18_ESO wrote: »themizario wrote: »So with the latest patch Rkund was stealth nerfed from 20k xp to 1800xp.
I'm not complaining, I just don't see how an instanced dungeon disrupts other players like the Scorpion grind did.
My point of this thread though: ESO has some really creative players, if someone finds a new awesome grind spot. Instead of sharing it in the forums or in zone, can we come up with a way to let players know WITHOUT letting ZOS know?
Tricky I know but "LFG VR GRIND" will only keep getting stuff nerfed.
They read the Reddit forums too. So open to ideas.
If that's true: So, we can't quest to reach vr 14 because we won't get credit for the xp if we're already at capped CP, grinding is yet again being nerfed, PVP is broke(and has nothing to do with *** deer to start with), it's like they want us all to unsub until after 1.6. Seriously, what a *** joke ZOS is.
YUP...So Awesome isn't it..
Baffling behavior from a company in a purely customer service industry. I wish they had a store nearby to picket. -
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✭✭✭✭✭whiteshadow711jppreub18_ESO wrote: »themizario wrote: »So with the latest patch Rkund was stealth nerfed from 20k xp to 1800xp.
I'm not complaining, I just don't see how an instanced dungeon disrupts other players like the Scorpion grind did.
My point of this thread though: ESO has some really creative players, if someone finds a new awesome grind spot. Instead of sharing it in the forums or in zone, can we come up with a way to let players know WITHOUT letting ZOS know?
Tricky I know but "LFG VR GRIND" will only keep getting stuff nerfed.
They read the Reddit forums too. So open to ideas.
If that's true: So, we can't quest to reach vr 14 because we won't get credit for the xp if we're already at capped CP, grinding is yet again being nerfed, PVP is broke(and has nothing to do with *** deer to start with), it's like they want us all to unsub until after 1.6. Seriously, what a *** joke ZOS is.
YUP...So Awesome isn't it..
Baffling behavior from a company in a purely customer service industry. I wish they had a store nearby to picket.
Gaming is not a "customer service industry". It's a gaming industry.----
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Jaxsun✭✭✭✭nerevarine1138 wrote: »whiteshadow711jppreub18_ESO wrote: »themizario wrote: »So with the latest patch Rkund was stealth nerfed from 20k xp to 1800xp.
I'm not complaining, I just don't see how an instanced dungeon disrupts other players like the Scorpion grind did.
My point of this thread though: ESO has some really creative players, if someone finds a new awesome grind spot. Instead of sharing it in the forums or in zone, can we come up with a way to let players know WITHOUT letting ZOS know?
Tricky I know but "LFG VR GRIND" will only keep getting stuff nerfed.
They read the Reddit forums too. So open to ideas.
If that's true: So, we can't quest to reach vr 14 because we won't get credit for the xp if we're already at capped CP, grinding is yet again being nerfed, PVP is broke(and has nothing to do with *** deer to start with), it's like they want us all to unsub until after 1.6. Seriously, what a *** joke ZOS is.
YUP...So Awesome isn't it..
Baffling behavior from a company in a purely customer service industry. I wish they had a store nearby to picket.
Gaming is not a "customer service industry". It's a gaming industry.
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Pchela✭✭✭✭✭Right as my sorc was about to hit vet levels to start this grind I learn of this... ZOS, why? What is the point of nerfing grinds? You're not going to keep people hanging onto subs by forcing them to level via questing. I'd rather happily play my grinded v14 sorc in PVP for months to come than spend time redoing a bunch of stupid quests I've done on other characters to get to v14 =_= Guess what option would keep me subbed longer?Varen Veleth - Ophelia Veleth
Llunela Vedrano - Mina Veleth
Lucy Veleth - Misery Cordia
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Yusuf✭✭✭✭✭nerevarine1138 wrote: »whiteshadow711jppreub18_ESO wrote: »nerevarine1138 wrote: »
Because it ain't gonna be phased out yet, for like atleast another month... if not more, and I want to level my ALT Main Duplicate to VR14....
Cool. So play the game. I've never needed to grind on any of my characters, and they level just fine.
I swear to god if i have to quest through the ebonheart pact for a third time i'm gonna kill someone!Edited by Yusuf on January 13, 2015 3:53AM -
They spent millions on the voice acting, art and programming for the storyline and quests, and apparently they are going to make damn sure that you have no choice but to do it.
Yes but right now since the Champion System hasn't dropped to the live server (let alone the PTS) you wont get credit for those quests..
Thats why we should be able to grind..Signed,
Kotaro Atani.
PS4 NAVR16/ CP 160 Khajiit Nightblade of the Aldmeri Dominion, Guildmaster and Assassin of the Queen's Hand guild on NA PC. PvP Officer in the WOLF guild on NA PS4, and of course Master Thief. currently 1534 CP out of 3600 CP on NA PS4. Currently 728 CP on NA PC (used for PTS testing purposes only). On PS4 I am also a Master Crafter, all traits done and learned, Jewelry crafting done. all Motifs learned on PS4 except for maybe two Motifs.
Warrior, Lover, Thief.... Nightblade.
Aldmeri Dominion For Life! For the Queen!! Go Dominion or go home !
"I have no hatred for the races of Man, but they are young. Like all children, they are driven by emotion. They lack the wisdom that comes with age. I would sooner place an Altmer infant on the Ruby Throne than surrender Tamriel to their capricious whims. The Altmer, the Bosmer and the Khajiit share the common traits of intelligence, patience and reason. We do not seek riches or plunder. Domination is not our goal, nor is the acclamation of power for its own sake. Today we make our stand. Today we take back the Ruby Throne, which is ours by ancient right and the blessings of the Divines. Stand with us." ―Your Queen Commands, Ayrenn Arana Aldmeri.
(All 18 characters are AD only!)
http://tamrielfoundry.com/members/kotaro-atani/ / http://i58.tinypic.com/25p6yd2.png http://i66.tinypic.com/5bc5e.png
Member of ESO Since January 29, 2014, started early Access 3/30/14 on PC, currently subbed on NA PS4 and on NA PC. Note- I only use PC for PTS testing purposes, the PS4 is my dedicated Game Platform.
Note- for those that don't know how to say Kotaro Atani it's "Ko tar row Ah ta ni" (Ko with a Oh sound, tar which sounds like the sticky black tar stuff, row like rowing a boat, Ah with a AHHHH sound, Ta with a Tahhh sound, Neeee which sounds like knee)
Things ZOS needs to Fix:"Lag in PvP" / AOE's need to run for their time stated in the Tool Tip, especially Ultimate's / Smart drops are still not smart / Fix it ZOS, fix it.
"The blowing sands of time wipe clean the footprints of the past..."
"Moonsugar may be the key to paradise, but it is through a false door..."
"A perfect society is always elsewhere..."
- Unknown book of Khajiiti proverbs. -
Jaxsun✭✭✭✭whiteshadow711jppreub18_ESO wrote: »They spent millions on the voice acting, art and programming for the storyline and quests, and apparently they are going to make damn sure that you have no choice but to do it.
Yes but right now since the Champion System hasn't dropped to the live server (let alone the PTS) you wont get credit for those quests..
Thats why we should be able to grind..
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Volla✭✭✭i still dont get why they nerf grind spots... should be one area for gold, one for exp, one for crafting materials of each kind... really if ppl wanna do this its up to them.
there was a cave where you could grind a lot of skin fast but it was nerfed, sad ppl is more spread out when there is more of this content all over. -
themizario✭✭✭This is bad. What if they find out where we GRIND/FARM alchemy mats and Nerf it to Oblivion? !
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killedbyping✭✭✭✭themizario wrote: »This is bad. What if they find out where we GRIND/FARM alchemy mats and Nerf it to Oblivion? !
Dee Tick have mercy on us!
They will. One shall not be able to grind stack of potions faster then one stack per month !
Actualy i think that all those grind spots nerfs are preparation for CP system.
They make sure you wont be able to grind CP's too fast and you would actualy need half of your life to get max CP'sEdited by killedbyping on January 13, 2015 6:33AM
