Just seen this about console release

SantieClaws

http://www.nowgamer.com/the-elder-scrolls-online-might-come-to-consoles-sooner-than-you-expected/

Could be total nonsense of course but I thought I would link it here and let you make up your own minds.

I don't trust much of the gaming media as far as I could throw them but if the listing is there then it might mean something I suppose.

Bloodystab

omg f2p inc!

/sarcasm

Anyway: Why there is no information on the Store that game require Monthly payments and give 30 free days time?

Gyudan

Bloodystab wrote: »

omg f2p inc!

/sarcasm

Anyway: Why there is no information on the Store that game require Monthly payments and give 30 free days time?

I had exactly the same thought.
The Microsoft store doesn't seem to specify it on any game though.

killedbyping

I see no valid reason why would console version use sub over f2p model. Who would agree to pay for both xbox\ps4 online sub and game sub at the same time ?
Sub payment also least profitable model for consoles.

rylixav

killedbyping wrote: »

I see no valid reason why would console version use sub over f2p model. Who would agree to pay for both xbox\ps4 online sub and game sub at the same time ?
Sub payment also least profitable model for consoles.

I do find it amusing that people will pay a subscription fee just for the privilege of being able to access the internet on a console, but paying a fee for an actual game is too much to ask.

Rosveen

Can we please keep this discussion about release date, not payment model? Thanks.

If this information is true, then 1.6 has to arrive on that day at the latest. Probably earlier so ZOS still has time to fix the most important bugs (but I don't know the process of releasing games on consoles, can they change the build until the last moment?)

Lorkhan

this is getting interesting

Bloodystab

Rosveen wrote: »

Can we please keep this discussion about release date, not payment model? Thanks.

If this information is true, then 1.6 has to arrive on that day at the latest. Probably earlier so ZOS still has time to fix the most important bugs (but I don't know the process of releasing games on consoles, can they change the build until the last moment?)

ofc They can, but its not smart. As good remember there was drama with Assassins Creed Unity and early patch that was lead people to download a lot of extra data - *** hit the fan that day. "Why i have to download 8 GB when i have CD!"

Faugaun

Bloodystab wrote: »

Rosveen wrote: »

Can we please keep this discussion about release date, not payment model? Thanks.

If this information is true, then 1.6 has to arrive on that day at the latest. Probably earlier so ZOS still has time to fix the most important bugs (but I don't know the process of releasing games on consoles, can they change the build until the last moment?)

ofc They can, but its not smart. As good remember there was drama with Assassins Creed Unity and early patch that was lead people to download a lot of extra data - *** hit the fan that day. "Why i have to download 8 GB when i have CD!"

So we can expect a well polished 1.6 sometime this month, then a small patch or two (100 mb) just before feb 24 to make sure it is perfect.

Syntse

Rosveen wrote: »

Can we please keep this discussion about release date, not payment model? Thanks.

If this information is true, then 1.6 has to arrive on that day at the latest. Probably earlier so ZOS still has time to fix the most important bugs (but I don't know the process of releasing games on consoles, can they change the build until the last moment?)

Since the supposed date is already in February my guess is that it is not going to happen then. If that would be true then there would be already mention about it and marketing started. Doubt they do some stealth launch for consoles. Not the first time sites have supposed release date that is then pushed forward.

Rosveen

Bloodystab wrote: »

Rosveen wrote: »

Can we please keep this discussion about release date, not payment model? Thanks.

If this information is true, then 1.6 has to arrive on that day at the latest. Probably earlier so ZOS still has time to fix the most important bugs (but I don't know the process of releasing games on consoles, can they change the build until the last moment?)

ofc They can, but its not smart. As good remember there was drama with Assassins Creed Unity and early patch that was lead people to download a lot of extra data - *** hit the fan that day. "Why i have to download 8 GB when i have CD!"

Haha, I didn't actually open the MS store page and I thought this was a digital version (does ESO even have digital versions on consoles, then?) They'd have to send it out before that date too, so they must be ready quite soon. In that case, 1.6 would definitely be a day 1 patch - and I'm not sure if ZOS would do that, it doesn't really make sense. Unless they push out the PTS version on consoles and then patch it... which also doesn't make sense, but y'know, ZOS.

Faugaun

Syntse wrote: »

Rosveen wrote: »

Can we please keep this discussion about release date, not payment model? Thanks.

If this information is true, then 1.6 has to arrive on that day at the latest. Probably earlier so ZOS still has time to fix the most important bugs (but I don't know the process of releasing games on consoles, can they change the build until the last moment?)

Since the supposed date is already in February my guess is that it is not going to happen then. If that would be true then there would be already mention about it and marketing started. Doubt they do some stealth launch for consoles. Not the first time sites have supposed release date that is then pushed forward.

Agree,they need a solid marketing campaign prior to printing and releasing a bunch of discs. Maybe they are just testing getting ready to flag the real release date...

Bloodystab

Faugaun wrote: »

Bloodystab wrote: »

Rosveen wrote: »

Can we please keep this discussion about release date, not payment model? Thanks.

If this information is true, then 1.6 has to arrive on that day at the latest. Probably earlier so ZOS still has time to fix the most important bugs (but I don't know the process of releasing games on consoles, can they change the build until the last moment?)

ofc They can, but its not smart. As good remember there was drama with Assassins Creed Unity and early patch that was lead people to download a lot of extra data - *** hit the fan that day. "Why i have to download 8 GB when i have CD!"

So we can expect a well polished 1.6 sometime this month, then a small patch or two (100 mb) just before feb 24 to make sure it is perfect.

There are 2 options imho, give PC 1.6 to Beta tests and do little fixes before console release like You said or deliver 1.6 same day as console release, so all player base's will start from somehow same spot - we all know its going to be really BIG update and game changer. + Character transfer option.

But that's only my speculations. And we don't know if this date is real.

SantieClaws

Depends I suppose if console players will be on the same servers as the rest of us or not.

If they are seperate servers then they could keep them running on different versions of the game if they needed to.

I recall one time in LOTRO when the EU players waited a good week for an update that the US servers had already got - there was something horribly gamebreaking about it so they delayed rolling it out to the EU until they fixed it in the US.

Lorkhan

Faugaun wrote: »

Syntse wrote: »

Rosveen wrote: »

Can we please keep this discussion about release date, not payment model? Thanks.

If this information is true, then 1.6 has to arrive on that day at the latest. Probably earlier so ZOS still has time to fix the most important bugs (but I don't know the process of releasing games on consoles, can they change the build until the last moment?)

Since the supposed date is already in February my guess is that it is not going to happen then. If that would be true then there would be already mention about it and marketing started. Doubt they do some stealth launch for consoles. Not the first time sites have supposed release date that is then pushed forward.

Agree,they need a solid marketing campaign prior to printing and releasing a bunch of discs. Maybe they are just testing getting ready to flag the real release date...

i dont think so. the marketing campaing should start very close to the release date. you just need a bunch of big youtube game channels making a hype.

Curragraigue

Microsoft jumped the gun on a release date for ESO on XBox before any announcement from ZOS a few months ago. It made it to media and the date was changed back to TBA a few days later. I wouldn't read too much into it.

I can't see the game coming out on console before the champion system is stable on PC. The champion system is a very different system they won't want to release and then change the levelling system so soon after release on console, Feb release is unrealistic. Two updates of changes still to go with the champion system changes so my guess would be April/May for console release given marketing and beta as well.

Lorkhan

Bloodystab wrote: »

Faugaun wrote: »

Bloodystab wrote: »

Rosveen wrote: »

Can we please keep this discussion about release date, not payment model? Thanks.

If this information is true, then 1.6 has to arrive on that day at the latest. Probably earlier so ZOS still has time to fix the most important bugs (but I don't know the process of releasing games on consoles, can they change the build until the last moment?)

ofc They can, but its not smart. As good remember there was drama with Assassins Creed Unity and early patch that was lead people to download a lot of extra data - *** hit the fan that day. "Why i have to download 8 GB when i have CD!"

So we can expect a well polished 1.6 sometime this month, then a small patch or two (100 mb) just before feb 24 to make sure it is perfect.

There are 2 options imho, give PC 1.6 to Beta tests and do little fixes before console release like You said or deliver 1.6 same day as console release, so all player base's will start from somehow same spot - we all know its going to be really BIG update and game changer. + Character transfer option.

But that's only my speculations. And we don't know if this date is real.

i bet they will deliver same day

I_killed_Vivec

Some of the reviews on the MSoft site are 10 months old - how long has the game been in the store with that release date?

Rosveen

wenxue2222b16_ESO wrote: »

Depends I suppose if console players will be on the same servers as the rest of us or not.

If they are seperate servers then they could keep them running on different versions of the game if they needed to.

I recall one time in LOTRO when the EU players waited a good week for an update that the US servers had already got - there was something horribly gamebreaking about it so they delayed rolling it out to the EU until they fixed it in the US.

Consoles have separate servers, but ZOS said they're waiting with console release until the Champion and Justice systems are ready. If they can make everything work before 24.02., that's great, but I'm not so sure about it.

Lorkhan

Rosveen wrote: »

wenxue2222b16_ESO wrote: »

Depends I suppose if console players will be on the same servers as the rest of us or not.

If they are seperate servers then they could keep them running on different versions of the game if they needed to.

I recall one time in LOTRO when the EU players waited a good week for an update that the US servers had already got - there was something horribly gamebreaking about it so they delayed rolling it out to the EU until they fixed it in the US.

Consoles have separate servers, but ZOS said they're waiting with console release until the Champion and Justice systems are ready. If they can make everything work before 24.02., that's great, but I'm not so sure about it.

yeah, i have to agree with that.

Syntse

Lorkhan wrote: »

Bloodystab wrote: »

Faugaun wrote: »

Bloodystab wrote: »

Rosveen wrote: »

Can we please keep this discussion about release date, not payment model? Thanks.

If this information is true, then 1.6 has to arrive on that day at the latest. Probably earlier so ZOS still has time to fix the most important bugs (but I don't know the process of releasing games on consoles, can they change the build until the last moment?)

ofc They can, but its not smart. As good remember there was drama with Assassins Creed Unity and early patch that was lead people to download a lot of extra data - *** hit the fan that day. "Why i have to download 8 GB when i have CD!"

So we can expect a well polished 1.6 sometime this month, then a small patch or two (100 mb) just before feb 24 to make sure it is perfect.

There are 2 options imho, give PC 1.6 to Beta tests and do little fixes before console release like You said or deliver 1.6 same day as console release, so all player base's will start from somehow same spot - we all know its going to be really BIG update and game changer. + Character transfer option.

But that's only my speculations. And we don't know if this date is real.

i bet they will deliver same day

Nice to see positive people even against all odds. They would shoot their own foot if they release 1.6 same time to pc and console. Everyone forgot the 1.5 already? PC will beta test 1.6 for console and once issues fixed it will be ready for console. There's only about month to the supposed release on console and no word, no hype. I'm sure they are trying their best to make the console release as flawless as possible after the not so great PC release.

Wolfshead

If the was smart the would release Xbox1 and PS4 on April 4, 2015 then it 1 years since ESO went online on PC and that would also mean that most bug in patch 1.6 should been fix and if the need fix thing with CS should have iron out by that time + it would nice 1 years anniversary for ESO as well.

I_killed_Vivec

The Champion System isn't fully implemented (Phase 4) until 1.7.

ZOS seem to be using PC players to be field testers for the console game. I'd be surprised if they released the console version before 1.7 had been fully "tested" by us (well, whoever's left).

And while ZOS might not care, it would look odd, to say the least, for new console players to get a shiny new game and within a short while have to implement a massive patch that takes away all their hard-earned VR ranks...

Elsonso

Two comments:

First, as I recall, Feb 24, 2015, was the date on Amazon a few weeks ago until they changed it suddenly to Dec 31, 2015. Correct me if I am wrong.

Second, Update 6 will be an OK time to introduce it to console players. Even as they progress in Veteran Ranks, if they still allow progression in Veteran Ranks when Update 6 actually ships, they will be earning CP as they progress. For console players, this is fine.

Bloodystab

lordrichter wrote: »

Two comments:

First, as I recall, Feb 24, 2015, was the date on Amazon a few weeks ago until they changed it suddenly to Dec 31, 2015. Correct me if I am wrong.

Second, Update 6 will be an OK time to introduce it to console players. Even as they progress in Veteran Ranks, if they still allow progression in Veteran Ranks when Update 6 actually ships, they will be earning CP as they progress. For console players, this is fine.

Yeah, great idea. They can type on boxes in Features section: Deep progression system ( But in next Update at this moment enjoy system that we remove )

Pelemane

Well I asked about the sub in their chat and they said it doesn't require subscription, just Xbox live.
So ESO f2p?
http://imgur.com/jhMXJmF

Roechacca

I_killed_Vivec wrote: »

Some of the reviews on the MSoft site are 10 months old - how long has the game been in the store with that release date?

A long time . People preordered last year

Nestor

If the console release date was really going to happen in less than two months, the ZOS marketing machine would be revved up and running at redline by now.

I don't think it is much longer than that, but until Champion and Justice is out and tuned up, the console release is not going to happen. So, figure soon after these two features are in place.

Roechacca

Nestor wrote: »

If the console release date was really going to happen in less than two months, the ZOS marketing machine would be revved up and running at redline by now.

I don't think it is much longer than that, but until Champion and Justice is out and tuned up, the console release is not going to happen. So, figure soon after these two features are in place.

Actually the marketing machine is in full gear .The best MMO of the year thing was pushed on every game forum and social media . Just because there's no TV commercial doesn't mean their not advertising .

WillhelmBlack

Would explain F2P rumours. If console don't have to pay then why should we? Could all just be to further the pressure on ZOS to make it F2P though.

WillhelmBlack

Pelemane wrote: »

Well I asked about the sub in their chat and they said it doesn't require subscription, just Xbox live.
So ESO f2p?
http://imgur.com/jhMXJmF

Why does John look like a girl?