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Kromus · January 2015

Lhorion wrote: »

@Kromus‌
[snip]
If 5 of them would use S&B reflect the DK would die after 2 seconds (the time the projectile needs to come back again). Really... So OP to survive 2 seconds instead of 1!

"Please don't go further off-topic with how its easy to kill DK by doing that and that, as that is not the point here." - wrote this line so we don't enter another endless off-topic discussion

Question was how a DK can tank 80 people and I gave valid example. ESO is role-playing game and not hard to imagine a group of players forming archers/sorcs guild. By lore and logic, archers/sorcs don't actually use shields so SB reflect is not available for them and such groups would be severely gimped any time they encounter DK, which is half of player base.

"Really... So OP to survive 2 seconds instead of 1!"
That's still double survival of other classes

[edited to remove quote]

Lhorion · January 2015

A bad example...
Bow user: S&B reflect would not help
Sorcbuilds: well... it seems like they need S&B like DKs need or for the cap closer. If you want to kill a good DK with projectils you need it (and most player have it).

But.... Yes... Wrong thread, I agree!

Soulac · January 2015

Legendary Mage don't need S&B as sorc and he use projectiles only. Your argument is invalid :P

Lhorion · January 2015

Legendary Mage used it for a long time.
Now he does not use it, but he cannot use projectils while scales are active.
He cannot kill a good DK with bursting him down with projectils. His fights against good DKs are nearly endless fights.
Strange post, Soulac

Derra · January 2015

maybe i have to come watch a duel again

Lhorion · January 2015

P.S.:
"Invalid" is a word that should be used well. Even if Leg. Mage could kill a DK in seconds without projectils or with projectils (if he was a wizard

) there is no point making my argument invalid.

1. A: DK can tank 80 people spamming S&B by doing projectils
2. B: No, they can use S&B reflect
3. A: They have to use S&B the
4. B: Sure, like everyone has to use things if he wants to use some skills
5. C: Your argument is invalid, because one Mage can fight a DK without S&B.

"C" likes words like "invalid" "useless" "no sense" i think..

Soulac · January 2015

Thanks Sherlock.
Sorcs still don't need S&B to burst DKs with projectile, so I'm not wrong.

Invalid, invalid, invalid, invalid, invalid, invalid, invalid
I hope you like it.

Dalglish · January 2015

I wanna meet this DK who can tank 80 people, he sounds really good.

Lhorion · January 2015

To burst DKs with projectils he needs it. So you See wrong (cause you answered on a argument about projectils, S&B and Scale). But don't worrie - errare humanum (in your case cattarum) est.

Sanct16 · January 2015

Projectiles are blockable. They are the minor damage source anyway. CF does 100 dmg blocked.

Soulac · January 2015

Lhorion wrote: »

To burst DKs with projectils he needs it. So you See wrong (cause you answered on a argument about projectils, S&B and Scale). But don't worrie - errare humanum (in your case cattarum) est.

"Burst damage is a term used to describe dealing high amounts of damage in a very short period of time. "

So you wanna tell me, that you absolutely never get stunned?
You know that a 4 second Stun is totally enough to burst u down?
I don't think you can activate reflect while stunned, sorry.

Maybe you got a wrong view on " burst "

RoamingRiverElk · January 2015

Lhorion wrote: »

Legendary Mage used it for a long time.
Now he does not use it, but he cannot use projectils while scales are active.
He cannot kill a good DK with bursting him down with projectils. His fights against good DKs are nearly endless fights.
Strange post, Soulac

Yes, and show me a DK who can ever kill him (as long as he doesn't get the weapon swap bug).

ToRelax · January 2015

Soulac wrote: »

Thanks Sherlock.
Sorcs still don't need S&B to burst DKs with projectile, so I'm not wrong.

Invalid, invalid, invalid, invalid, invalid, invalid, invalid
I hope you like it.

Mage said himself, for Dalris he would have to go back on his old reflect build...
And if Soulac does not agree with the 80 people tanking DK who kills 20, maybe he could just think of valid arguments himself

.

Soulac · January 2015

Dalris is different, more tanky than most of the other DKs.
Well he don't kill anything with defense, but burst is not possible with holding block 24/7 and that's what Dalris do.

Anyway a DK can't tank 80 ppl, no one can.
Ofc he could use Mistform and Cyrodiils Light for 100% dmg reduction, but that's totally not tanking in my opinion.

Lhorion · January 2015

Waiting for a moment the DK has no scales up takes time. And then i would not call this fight like "he bursted the DK down". Sure, if he get a DK stunned he can do a few projectils. In my duels with him it was not enough for bursting me to death. We had endless fights (without potions, with it would be "more endless"

)
And @RoamingRiverElk‌ sure, i never talked about DKs kill him in a easy fight. Good DK against good mage -> loooooong (endless?) fight.

Soulac · January 2015

Lhorion wrote: »

Waiting for a moment the DK has no scales up takes time. And then i would not call this fight like "he bursted the DK down". Sure, if he get a DK stunned he can do a few projectils. In my duels with him it was not enough for bursting me to death. We had endless fights (without potions, with it would be "more endless" )
And @RoamingRiverElk‌ sure, i never talked about DKs kill him in a easy fight. Good DK against good mage -> loooooong (endless?) fight.

Wait for 1.6! :P

Fights between good players are mostly endless until one makes too many mistakes or get bored..

Lhorion · January 2015

I totally agree if we incloud "or has a DC/weaponswapbug"

AbraXuSeXile · January 2015

Something tells me i'm to blame for this going completely off topic.

Soulac · January 2015

Lhorion wrote: »

I totally agree if we incloud "or has a DC/weaponswapbug"

We should include every kind of bug!

Abraxus, it's your fault! You're totally right, haha :P

Sypher · January 2015

Best Sorcerer - Legendary Mage.

Yusuf · January 2015

Sypher wrote: »

Best Sorcerer - Legendary Mage.

lol how do you even know each other? Or is there a Legendary Mage who's the best sorcerer on the NA-Server too? :O

pmn100b16_ESO · January 2015

Yusuf wrote: »

Sypher wrote: »

Best Sorcerer - Legendary Mage.

lol how do you even know each other? Or is there a Legendary Mage who's the best sorcerer on the NA-Server too? :O

He popped into EU thorn recently I believe

Etaniel · January 2015

He's been coming on EU for some duels, i recorded a few vs Draecarys

Soulac · January 2015

Legendary Mage op

Derra · January 2015

Nobody told me

Lhorion · January 2015

Maybe because he killed them all. (Okay, expect our master Leg. Mage

)

Sanct16 · January 2015

Nah, he didn't. Draecarys wrecked him

Soulac · January 2015

Well he killed Draecerys too, the second fight he Sypher ran out of potions.
Dennegor won too, but also lost, same for me.
If it's true what mage told me, he won quit often. Mage op.

Lhorion · January 2015

Soulac, I thought you lost and in the second fight potions were out, too?

Soulac · January 2015

First and second duel were with potions, the third we stopped cause infinity fightt and no potions.
After that fight without potions.