CHAMPION SYSTEM: does the actual VR level really matter?
Niebla
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I have read in these forums that the XP earned from all your characters will be convert to veterans points AND all that points will be shared by all your chars, and could be spent separately on each of them, if they are at least lvl 50. I mean, if you have 200 CP on your account, you will be able to spent 200 on char1, 200 on char2, etc.
If this is true, why should I take the effort to level my actuals alters from VR1-13 to VR14? What's the point? I'd rather prefer to focus on my main (VR14) to keep on accumulating XP, and once the CS is released, I will have 4 classes lvl 50 on the same starting point. Won't I??
Note: sorry, english is not my first language
If this is true, why should I take the effort to level my actuals alters from VR1-13 to VR14? What's the point? I'd rather prefer to focus on my main (VR14) to keep on accumulating XP, and once the CS is released, I will have 4 classes lvl 50 on the same starting point. Won't I??
Note: sorry, english is not my first language
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DezIsDead✭✭✭✭Good question, I'm also very curious as to how the champion system will work. Would love some clarification.Dez Is Dead vr16 AD Sorc
Rez Dez vr16 DC sorc
Aimer Cantentius VR16 DC NB AKA Needs Vigor
Vanreimus Comeback DC DK
Ihealedurmum VR8 AD temp
Unonti VR crafting sloot
Zoschasedawaymyfweinds EP Temp0 -
TehMagnus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭You will still have 50 levels + 14. The only difference will be the name of those 14 levels and that you'll be earning points after level 50 for the champion system.
At least that's what I understand from it since I don't see them changing the level of VR14 gear down to level 50, that would be a nightmare for them.$
As for the points earner, the bonuses you win and "buy" on one char will be applied to all the other chars and there will be around a max of 700 points per char and ~2k points total (from what I understood and heard from guildie that attended guild meeting).Edited by TehMagnus on November 27, 2014 11:16AM2 -
Syntse✭✭✭✭✭To my understanding all over lvl 50 chars will have access to CP pool and will contribute to the CP pool of your account. However you need to split the points in the CP pool with your chars.Syntse Dominion Khajiit Dragonknight Stamina Tank [50]
Ra'Syntse Dominion Khajiit Nightblade Magica DPS [50]
Syntselle Dominion Dark Elf Dragonknight Magica DPS [50]
Syntseus Dominion Imperial Templar Healer [50]
Syntsetar Dominion High Elf Sorcerer Magica DPS [50]
Friar Tuktuk Daggerfall Brenton Templar Healer [50]
Syntseyn Ebonheart Brenton Nightblade Magica DPS [50]0 -
Sharee✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭To my understanding all over lvl 50 chars will have access to CP pool and will contribute to the CP pool of your account. However you need to split the points in the CP pool with your chars.
Most certainly not. They have stressed this point numerous times: if your account has 500 champion points on it, then each of your chars can spend 500 points for himself, in various ways.3 -
Syntse✭✭✭✭✭To my understanding all over lvl 50 chars will have access to CP pool and will contribute to the CP pool of your account. However you need to split the points in the CP pool with your chars.
Most certainly not. They have stressed this point numerous times: if your account has 500 champion points on it, then each of your chars can spend 500 points for himself, in various ways.
Well then that's nicer than I thought it was.Syntse Dominion Khajiit Dragonknight Stamina Tank [50]
Ra'Syntse Dominion Khajiit Nightblade Magica DPS [50]
Syntselle Dominion Dark Elf Dragonknight Magica DPS [50]
Syntseus Dominion Imperial Templar Healer [50]
Syntsetar Dominion High Elf Sorcerer Magica DPS [50]
Friar Tuktuk Daggerfall Brenton Templar Healer [50]
Syntseyn Ebonheart Brenton Nightblade Magica DPS [50]0 -
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Yes, if you have multiple caracters they will share CP, this has the benefit that doing Calwinds silver and gold with an add you will also level the primary.To my understanding all over lvl 50 chars will have access to CP pool and will contribute to the CP pool of your account. However you need to split the points in the CP pool with your chars.
Most certainly not. They have stressed this point numerous times: if your account has 500 champion points on it, then each of your chars can spend 500 points for himself, in various ways.
Should also help if you have specialized characters you don't play so often but only for raids and so on.
Grinding just make you go in circles.
Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.0 -
Darthryan✭✭✭Wait a.minute. so if I level my dk to vr1 then he will be on par with my vr14? Or do I still need to level him up to vr 14?0 -
Sublime✭✭✭✭Yes your VR Level does matter. Why?
At the Point when the CS kicks in each Player will be given a certain amount of CSPoints. This amount is calculated upon one factor:
- How many Veteran (exprience since 1.5) Points have you earned?
- So a V14 char counts loads more than a V1 char
- ZOS can and will include the Veteran Points earned past V14 no matter when your reached V14 (I.e. you can continue to Play your V14 without fearing to get less CSP at the launch of the CS)
Some more detailed Infos about the CS can be found here:
forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/136702/how-the-champion-system-is-a-complete-overhaul-of-game-numbers/p1
(It is only about numbers at the beginning but expands as the thread goes on, because everything is tied together.)Edited by Sublime on November 27, 2014 12:37PMEU | For those who want to improve their behaviour: the science behind shaping player bahaviour (presentation)1 -
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✭Anyone who has played Rift will know exactly what the Champion System is because it's exactly the same as Rift's Planar Attunement.- EVERY Character that earns XP contributes to the CP pool (even sub 50's).
- EVERY Character that is level 50 gets to use the entire CP pool however they want, independently.
If you have 200 Champion Points, (4) level 50's (VR doesn't matter) then you have 200 CP to spend on Char 1, 200 CP to spend on Char 2, 200 CP to spend on Char 3 and 200 CP to spend on Char 4. You also have 200 CP to spend on any new Character the instant they ding 50.
Hope that's clear enough.2 -
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✭✭✭✭Just wait until after the holiday. There will be a write up.V16 Uriel Stormblessed EP Magicka Templar(main)
V16 Derelict Vagabond EP Stamina DK
V16 Redacted Ep Stam Sorc
V16 Insolent EP Magicka Sorc(retired)
V16 Jed I Nyte EP Stamina NB(retired)0 -
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✭What happens when you have only one character?
Less points?Edited by Soris on November 27, 2014 3:25PMWelkynd [Templar/AD/EU]0 -
GamerzElite✭✭✭Anyone who has played Rift will know exactly what the Champion System is because it's exactly the same as Rift's Planar Attunement.- EVERY Character that earns XP contributes to the CP pool (even sub 50's).
- EVERY Character that is level 50 gets to use the entire CP pool however they want, independently.
If you have 200 Champion Points, (4) level 50's (VR doesn't matter) then you have 200 CP to spend on Char 1, 200 CP to spend on Char 2, 200 CP to spend on Char 3 and 200 CP to spend on Char 4. You also have 200 CP to spend on any new Character the instant they ding 50.
Hope that's clear enough.
The ESO Champion point will associated with Account not character. So, you have 1 chance to spend CP on you Game ID not Character wise. If you spent 1 CP on stamina means all Char buffed with stamina. See the video above.....0 -
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This is not correct. You EARN CP account wide on all Characters and you get to SPEND CP account wide on all characters, exactly like Rift's Planar Attunement. I have watched the video multiple times and Paul is very clear in that. My above comment on how CP will work is exactly correct.GamerzElite wrote: »The ESO Champion point will associated with Account not character. So, you have 1 chance to spend CP on you Game ID not Character wise. If you spent 1 CP on stamina means all Char buffed with stamina. See the video above.....2 -
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✭I'm not 100% on it, but I think i heard somewhere that each champion you gain the xp gap will increase to get the next champion point.
If thats the case, then getting another toon V1-14 will reward more champion points in a shorter amount of time. but again im not 100% on it.
I have a V14 NB and DK, and I raised a Templar and Sorc to about level 40-45. I stopped working on them because I don't feel like going V1-14 again.~Thallen~0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Ok folks, has everyone played Diablo III? Do you understand how the Paragon System works? Then you understand the basics of the Champion System.
The only real difference is that the Champion System isn't as one-dimensional as the Paragon System.----
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Sublime✭✭✭✭bosmern_ESO wrote: »I'm not 100% on it, but I think i heard somewhere that each champion you gain the xp gap will increase to get the next champion point.
If thats the case, then getting another toon V1-14 will reward more champion points in a shorter amount of time. but again im not 100% on it.
I have a V14 NB and DK, and I raised a Templar and Sorc to about level 40-45. I stopped working on them because I don't feel like going V1-14 again.
I have not read something like that until now so I cannot say whether it is true or false, but it would be really surprising if it would be the case. I.e. I expect each champion point to require the same amount of experience points earned.
You might however confuse your information with the following:
Each additional champion point spent into the same passive will reduce the efficiency.
An example:
A passive grants you additional HP:
1st Point: +0.1%
2nd Point: +0.98%
3rd Point: +0.96%
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The result would be similar with the only difference that my version (which I believe to be correct) is less punishing for high numbers of champion points. But in the end it all depends on the actual numbers of course.EU | For those who want to improve their behaviour: the science behind shaping player bahaviour (presentation)0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKzhW_13p30