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Bittermaw Exploit! (The new Scorpion!)

General_Kefka
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Yea So now people are Exploiting Bittermaw... There are people with Healing bots standing on rocks at this location just Healing and reaping massive amounts of EXP and Gold... this happened with scorpion among a few others... Please fix this!

1.) It allows player to max out toons without learning their class or how to dodge combat cues. (Which keeps them from clearing trials or getting invited into the big guilds. Which then in-turn Frustrates them when no one wants to play with them.)

2.) Wouldn't it make more sense to have subscribers play longer instead of rush to end game from a Corporate financial standpoint. (Why pay Multiple months of subs when i can have multiple max levels in a month.)

3.) Allows other factions to max out "Spies" in their downtimes. (Sure they fixed Troll Camps, but can still watch troop movements.)

4.) Player are botting at these locations and violating the ToS. (REALLY THEY ARE)

5.) With vendor next to it (30m or so) they are reaping tons of gold and ruining the economy. (HERP DERP)

Really like this game and would like it to last longer...By rushing to endgame then getting bored and moving on; it is not helping the population. Need to be nipped in the bud as it has already gone on far too long.

Brought to you by: Tamriel Wildlife Foundation's Save The Welwa from Exploitation Movement.
  • guybrushtb16_ESO
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    Thx for posting, I'll head there right away.

    edit: Now that I've been on it, I found that on the EU servers, we could really use a few more people there to really kick it off. So if you're looking for a grind group, here's a map of the relevant location:

    B1GmLwSCIAAYer6.jpg

    Thax again for giving us directions op. Didn't read all that other stuff you wrote tough, will do later when all my chars are capped.
    Edited by guybrushtb16_ESO on November 2, 2014 4:40PM
  • ZOS_GaryA
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    Hey there @General_Kefka,

    Our devs are aware of the issue and Bittermaw's infinite spawn will be fixed in a future patch. Thank you very much for reporting this!
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  • dharbert
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    Hey OP? Just do what I was doing earlier. Kill all the adds with aoe's. That makes them have to wait about 5 minutes in between spawns instead of a few seconds. They love it :)
  • itsBishop
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    dharbert wrote: »
    Hey OP? Just do what I was doing earlier. Kill all the adds with aoe's. That makes them have to wait about 5 minutes in between spawns instead of a few seconds. They love it :)

    You were the kind of kid that would steal others' toys at daycare because no one wanted to play with you, huh?
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  • BCBasher
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    .I kill all the adds when the group or some loudmouth in the group accuses me of being a bot for not being in the group. Grind groups should learn there's no chivalry amongst thieves. Otherwise I love bittermaw.
  • Leeric
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    itsBishop wrote: »
    dharbert wrote: »
    Hey OP? Just do what I was doing earlier. Kill all the adds with aoe's. That makes them have to wait about 5 minutes in between spawns instead of a few seconds. They love it :)

    You were the kind of kid that would steal others' toys at daycare because no one wanted to play with you, huh?

    I have no problem keeping people from cheating.
  • Xjcon
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    Considering that there isn't content to support leveling past VR10. Why does it matter if groups farm a world boss? Isn't it similar to farming an instance? You do it over and over again right.....
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  • Maotti
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    I got a bit full on grinding my alt to VR10. So i'll stay away from this one.
    Edited by Maotti on November 2, 2014 6:30PM
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  • timidobserver
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    It is really interesting how it is always the same guild/people that get angry and start crying about people leveling fast and spend 6-10 hours a day trolling the grind.
    Edited by timidobserver on November 2, 2014 6:38PM
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  • Naivefanboi
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    dharbert wrote: »
    Hey OP? Just do what I was doing earlier. Kill all the adds with aoe's. That makes them have to wait about 5 minutes in between spawns instead of a few seconds. They love it :)
    we do actually come by any time <3 usually just farm glyphs ther when i feel like it , since im already vr14 i dont need to xp and im not in a hurry good try tho golf clap
  • Naivefanboi
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    It is really interesting how it is always the same guild/people that get angry and start crying about people leveling fast and spend 6-10 hours a day trolling the grind.
    yea how dare i level the way i want and come back to the story when i feel like it!!!! surely it will ruin the game rofl.
    whats really ironic, is some people like me, grinded from vr1-14 cause they felt like it...and are now waiting to do the quests in veteran zones because guess what?
    CHAMPION SYSTEM - have fun re leveling with hardly any veteran zone quests left.....rofl give yourselves a big round of applause and pats on the back for playing "the right way". have fun leveling in champion system all over again now be sure not to grind and only do it the "right way" rofl

  • Naivefanboi
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    Leeric wrote: »
    itsBishop wrote: »
    dharbert wrote: »
    Hey OP? Just do what I was doing earlier. Kill all the adds with aoe's. That makes them have to wait about 5 minutes in between spawns instead of a few seconds. They love it :)

    You were the kind of kid that would steal others' toys at daycare because no one wanted to play with you, huh?

    I have no problem keeping people from cheating.

    try harder i had no issues grinding from vr1-14 lol

  • Rune_Relic
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    It is really interesting how it is always the same guild/people that get angry and start crying about people leveling fast and spend 6-10 hours a day trolling the grind.
    yea how dare i level the way i want and come back to the story when i feel like it!!!! surely it will ruin the game rofl.
    whats really ironic, is some people like me, grinded from vr1-14 cause they felt like it...and are now waiting to do the quests in veteran zones because guess what?
    CHAMPION SYSTEM - have fun re leveling with hardly any veteran zone quests left.....rofl give yourselves a big round of applause and pats on the back for playing "the right way". have fun leveling in champion system all over again now be sure not to grind and only do it the "right way" rofl

    You know the conversion from vet points to xp will be capped right ?
    Anything that can be exploited will be exploited
  • midnight_tea
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    Considering that there isn't content to support leveling past VR10.

    *facepalm* What about the entire zone of Craglorn? PvP and dailies in Cyro? Dungeons and trials?

    Such comments really tell me that people are not even bothering to look for content - they just don't care about it or claim it's nonexistent or boring in order to justify their chosen path of leveling.
    Well, here's a question for you peeps - if you find the game so boring that there's nothing to do in it other than grinding to max level then why are you playing it?
    try harder i had no issues grinding from vr1-14 lol

    There will always be some form of grind and people who will grind from VR1-14 - the issue with Bittermaw or Scorpion is that such grinds make everything too easy: it's fast and gives a ton of money, making people "earn" their ranks or financial status with practically no effort put into it. If you don't see how this hurts the game or ruins the experience, then I don't know what will.
  • Daenerys
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    If you are so upset by this why aren't you reporting in game as required by Terms of Service? Do you know you are violating TOS by posting this detailed info here?

    ZOS is obviously aware of this. I mean all you are doing is showing players the best way to currently get a massive amount of xp and loot, until this is fixed. Good job. It has been said many, many times to NOT report exploits on forums.

    http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/85714/question-about-reporting-exploits
  • Averya_Teira
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    Will I get XP as a VR1 :smiley: ??
  • Maotti
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    I was here now, and there's nobody here on the Eu server. :) So i just Soloed it and took the voidstone ore and left. :)
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  • Islyn
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    Yea So now people are Exploiting Bittermaw... There are people with Healing bots standing on rocks at this location just Healing and reaping massive amounts of EXP and Gold... this happened with scorpion among a few others... Please fix this!

    1.) It allows player to max out toons without learning their class or how to dodge combat cues. (Which keeps them from clearing trials or getting invited into the big guilds. Which then in-turn Frustrates them when no one wants to play with them.)

    2.) Wouldn't it make more sense to have subscribers play longer instead of rush to end game from a Corporate financial standpoint. (Why pay Multiple months of subs when i can have multiple max levels in a month.)

    3.) Allows other factions to max out "Spies" in their downtimes. (Sure they fixed Troll Camps, but can still watch troop movements.)

    4.) Player are botting at these locations and violating the ToS. (REALLY THEY ARE)

    5.) With vendor next to it (30m or so) they are reaping tons of gold and ruining the economy. (HERP DERP)

    Really like this game and would like it to last longer...By rushing to endgame then getting bored and moving on; it is not helping the population. Need to be nipped in the bud as it has already gone on far too long.

    Brought to you by: Tamriel Wildlife Foundation's Save The Welwa from Exploitation Movement.

    Why do you care?

    Seriously. Why? If they do all this and no one wants to play with them then they leave. End of.

    I really want to know why people think things they don't like will
    <hyperbole>RUIN THE GAME!</ hyperbole> when for some of us; having to level All. Over. Again. is making us just not even want to play any longer.

    Live and let live.

    I do not care how some people have to do every tiny thing so why do you care if people grind?
  • Awetopsy1703
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    Some people like to grind instead of quest or pvp if thats what they want to do then let them use their 15 bucks the way they want to use it , i think ZOS should have a map that has several different grinding areas on it in different levels for those who choose to do so .
    Personally have 3 - VR14 toons and a VR9 all done from questing and PvP tylenol is a good thing to have around :)
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