STAMINA HEAL FINALLY

ExiledKhallisi

Rally momentum morph for 2h...

Currently when toggled on on my vr14 phys built sorc... it ticks for:

77HP per tick for 30 seconds
When effect ends I get 1 large heal for around 750
At any time I can reapply Rally and instantly heal myself at the cost of stamina for around 250 non crit it can crit. 650 ish.

Gilvoth

that is not a heal.
dragonights and templars cast heals on themselves that do not involve weapons. and THAT is what a heal is.
im a nighblade, stamina build, the only weapons i use are daggers and axes and throwing daggers. i do not use a 2 handed weapon.
so for you to proclaim that "stamina finally has a healing skill" is false and misleading information.

ExiledKhallisi

Hlaren_shortsheath wrote: »

that is not a heal.
dragonights and templars cast heals on themselves that do not involve weapons. and THAT is what a heal is.
im a nighblade, stamina build, the only weapons i use are daggers and axes and throwing daggers. i do not use a 2 handed weapon.
so for you to proclaim that "stamina finally has a healing skill" is false and misleading information.

You can activate rally on weapon switch and still benefit from the HOT with other weapons.

Maulkin

I want to see a fight between the two most vocal stamina-lovers/magicka-haters in these forums...

I think Khalisi has more fight in her, but hlaren can certainly put up a fight despite his short "sheath".

EDIT:
I'm expecting them to LOL each other's posts to the bitter end of this thread. I'm sure it'll be nail-biting stuff.

ExiledKhallisi

mike.gaziotisb16_ESO wrote: »

I want to see a fight between the two most vocal stamina-lovers/magicka-haters in these forums...

I think Khalisi has more fight in her, but hlaren can certainly put up a fight despite his short "sheath".

haha bring it.... further teszsting on PTS has revealed to me that Bow/Two-Hand will be forces to recon with. Two hand now also has best AOE in the game.

Soon to begin testing on werewolf and duel wield

jelliedsoup

momentum uses stamina and it heals.

It would be good for them to provide other heals for others stamina classes.

I no longer call myself an NB, I'm a archer, with 2h as backup.

starkerealm

I'm a nightblade that uses a 2 hander as my primary.

Maulkin

ExiledKhallisi wrote: »

mike.gaziotisb16_ESO wrote: »

I want to see a fight between the two most vocal stamina-lovers/magicka-haters in these forums...

I think Khalisi has more fight in her, but hlaren can certainly put up a fight despite his short "sheath".

haha bring it.... further teszsting on PTS has revealed to me that Bow/Two-Hand will be forces to recon with. Two hand now also has best AOE in the game.

Soon to begin testing on werewolf and duel wield

Tbh I'm glad the 2h is getting some decent buffs. I always believed in buffing stamina weapons to bring them on par, rather than nerfing all the magicka abilities. Though some did need toning down, needless to say.

I'm a little wary of the bow getting more buffs as with the last update it's already doing a lot of damage and that can be reflected in the huge archer population currently. That's my opinion of this.

Overall, I think 2H/Bow will be an awesome combo with a lot of burst damage to it. As always, people who spec fully into stamina and health, while leaving mgk to 1.1k will still suffer survivanility-wise. The slightly more savvy ones that invest in some magicka and spell cost reduction for their utility spells will be pretty strong I think.

ExiledKhallisi

mike.gaziotisb16_ESO wrote: »

ExiledKhallisi wrote: »

mike.gaziotisb16_ESO wrote: »

I want to see a fight between the two most vocal stamina-lovers/magicka-haters in these forums...

I think Khalisi has more fight in her, but hlaren can certainly put up a fight despite his short "sheath".

haha bring it.... further teszsting on PTS has revealed to me that Bow/Two-Hand will be forces to recon with. Two hand now also has best AOE in the game.

Soon to begin testing on werewolf and duel wield

Tbh I'm glad the 2h is getting some decent buffs. I always believed in buffing stamina weapons to bring them on par, rather than nerfing all the magicka abilities. Though some did need toning down, needless to say.

I'm a little wary of the bow getting more buffs as with the last update it's already doing a lot of damage and that can be reflected in the huge archer population currently. That's my opinion of this.

Overall, I think 2H/Bow will be an awesome combo with a lot of burst damage to it. As always, people who spec fully into stamina and health, while leaving mgk to 1.1k will still suffer survivanility-wise. The slightly more savvy ones that invest in some magicka and spell cost reduction for their utility spells will be pretty strong I think.

Considering we are getting new attribute points for every vrLVL in 1.5... having some added magicka wont be hard to do

jelliedsoup

mike.gaziotisb16_ESO wrote: »

ExiledKhallisi wrote: »

mike.gaziotisb16_ESO wrote: »

I want to see a fight between the two most vocal stamina-lovers/magicka-haters in these forums...

I think Khalisi has more fight in her, but hlaren can certainly put up a fight despite his short "sheath".

haha bring it.... further teszsting on PTS has revealed to me that Bow/Two-Hand will be forces to recon with. Two hand now also has best AOE in the game.

Soon to begin testing on werewolf and duel wield

Tbh I'm glad the 2h is getting some decent buffs. I always believed in buffing stamina weapons to bring them on par, rather than nerfing all the magicka abilities. Though some did need toning down, needless to say.

I'm a little wary of the bow getting more buffs as with the last update it's already doing a lot of damage and that can be reflected in the huge archer population currently. That's my opinion of this.

Overall, I think 2H/Bow will be an awesome combo with a lot of burst damage to it. As always, people who spec fully into stamina and health, while leaving mgk to 1.1k will still suffer survivanility-wise. The slightly more savvy ones that invest in some magicka and spell cost reduction for their utility spells will be pretty strong I think.

Ive been playing a 1600m/2400h/2500s for a while and it works OK for me.

I only use dark cloak and impale on both bars, but dc uses a bit.

GreyRanger

ExiledKhallisi wrote: »

Two hand now also has best AOE in the game.

I am curious, are you referring to the improved Cleave or the improved Reverse Slice as the best AOE.

I hope they will get dual weapons on par with the much improved 2 Hand

TheBull

Very nice.

Shunravi

YAY

sagitter

2h big improvement, 1h/s some improvement, dual wield poor improvement

Stx

Nice!

Two Hand really needs some love. This new Rally seems too good to be true... instant heal for stamina? Hmm. Is it 77 health per second for 30 seconds? Thats also really nice.

I can't wait to dust off my two-hander... all I use it for right now is an AE farming spec that builds ult super fast.

Govalon

Now it will be impossible to kill DK's. Imagine an oponent who is spamming blood dragon or wharever that op skill is and also healing using stamina. No way to kill something like that

CapuchinSeven

mike.gaziotisb16_ESO wrote: »

I want to see a fight between the two most vocal stamina-lovers/magicka-haters in these forums...

I think Khalisi has more fight in her, but hlaren can certainly put up a fight despite his short "sheath".

EDIT:
I'm expecting them to LOL each other's posts to the bitter end of this thread. I'm sure it'll be nail-biting stuff.

I'm always willing to be wrong, it makes things interesting but I don't think there is an equal geared stamina build that can beat my melee magicka NB build.

Outside of catching me off guard with a bow (and even then it's gotten rare for them to beat me). I'm not saying there aren't decent stamina builds, or decent stamina players but pound for pound my magic build has too much control and too much burst with a stack of healing on top.

That said, the heal sounds pretty nice. I'll be keen to try it out and maybe drop a resto staff for lols.

Maulkin

Govalon wrote: »

Now it will be impossible to kill DK's imagine an oponent who is spamming blood dragon or wharever that op skill is and also healing using stamina. No way to kill something like that

Lol, yeah that 77hp per tick makes you really unkillable doesn't it...

Also, if he's a 2H stamina build, it's highly unlikely he's gonna be able to "spam" an expensive magicka skill like GDB, don't you think?

Maulkin

CapuchinSeven wrote: »

mike.gaziotisb16_ESO wrote: »

I want to see a fight between the two most vocal stamina-lovers/magicka-haters in these forums...

I think Khalisi has more fight in her, but hlaren can certainly put up a fight despite his short "sheath".

EDIT:
I'm expecting them to LOL each other's posts to the bitter end of this thread. I'm sure it'll be nail-biting stuff.

I'm always willing to be wrong, it makes things interesting but I don't think there is an equal geared stamina build that can beat my melee magicka NB build.

Outside of catching me off guard with a bow (and even then it's gotten rare for them to beat me). I'm not saying there aren't decent stamina builds, or decent stamina players but pound for pound my magic build has too much control and too much burst with a stack of healing on top.

Light armor S&B casters are the dominant build template for almost any class. You even see Sorcs with S&B these days.

That said people who just hold block all the time really get drained of stamina in duels. People have wised up and know how to work block-holders. Especially some good stamina NBs. So it kinda depends who you fight, but for similar level players a magicka based class is still stronger.

As for those crazies that go full stamina and use nothing from the class lines. Yeah, they've got no hope.