How important is the ESO story to you?

Kreetar

It's important but not a deal breaker.

I love the story but I find that my reasons for continuing to play are as simple as collecting plants/ore obsessive-compulsively & delving into dungeons.

NetViperX

It's important but not a deal breaker.

I think a good story is important for any type of game, and find myself more capable to really getting into a game if the story is good. That being said, if the gameplay itself is crap, no amount of good story will make it a good game.

leeux

LOVE the story, it's a huge reason why I play and continue to play

If it weren't for the story, it would be like playing as this poor guy:



Sorry, I couldn't contain myself

Valen_Byte

It's important but not a deal breaker.

The story is important to have, but I cant say that the story is the best part of the game for me. When I think of great stories in RPG games, ES is not the first one that comes to mind. The writing in 2 other RPGs that are very well known, are far superior. I will not name them as I do not wish to disrespect this amazing game. Its just that when I think of the story, the actual writing, this isn't at the top of my list of greats.

superfluke

I could care less, I just click through PvE dialog as fast as possible

I literally couldn't care less, don't even read any of it ever. Just follow the quest arrow. It's fun. Lore shmore.

Enemy-of-Coldharbour

LOVE the story, it's a huge reason why I play and continue to play

I agree with @Nestor‌. The story is the soul of the game.

reften

It's a nice to have, but not sure I even know the ESO story/stories

Another thing that baffles me is...still 76% of people here are huge fans of the story. 90% say at a min. it's important.

Yet when I have been in a group, for a group dungeon, with a quest...not ONCE have I seen someone semi-left behind because they were listening to the dialog of the NPC. Seriously, been playing since launch, not once have I seen someone slow down to listen to the dialog...or even comment on what was going on.

Maybe the population of this forum is extremely skewed? Maybe that true majority just doesn't want to admit story has no interest to them...? I dunno.

BBSooner

LOVE the story, it's a huge reason why I play and continue to play

oren74 wrote: »

Another thing that baffles me is...still 76% of people here are huge fans of the story. 90% say at a min. it's important.

Yet when I have been in a group, for a group dungeon, with a quest...not ONCE have I seen someone semi-left behind because they were listening to the dialog of the NPC. Seriously, been playing since launch, not once have I seen someone slow down to listen to the dialog...or even comment on what was going on.

Maybe the population of this forum is extremely skewed? Maybe that true majority just doesn't want to admit story has no interest to them...? I dunno.

Or they've already read it. Or they don't want to/feel bad holding up a group to read what's going on so they press on as a courtesy. Or (FFXIV had a bad problem with this) players have been hostile towards people who wait for the dialogue to finish. Speculation aside, there's really no reason to lie on an opinion based optional poll. While it's certainly possible the population on the forums could be skewed, I don't think there's any reason to think people who play RPGs in general don't care about the story.

starkerealm

LOVE the story, it's a huge reason why I play and continue to play

oren74 wrote: »

Another thing that baffles me is...still 76% of people here are huge fans of the story. 90% say at a min. it's important.

Yet when I have been in a group, for a group dungeon, with a quest...not ONCE have I seen someone semi-left behind because they were listening to the dialog of the NPC. Seriously, been playing since launch, not once have I seen someone slow down to listen to the dialog...or even comment on what was going on.

Maybe the population of this forum is extremely skewed? Maybe that true majority just doesn't want to admit story has no interest to them...? I dunno.

In PUGs? I jump through it because I'm always in a group with a couple people that will bolt the instant they can, and people get desynced. It actually got pretty bad during an Obsidian Scar run a couple days ago, where there were about 8 of us. Two of us were actually listening to dialog and ended up missing a quest stage because the zerg rolled on, and we were scrambling to catch up.

In private groups with guild members or friends? Completely different story, we're there, listening to everything, getting all the info out of the people we can. It's just a question of if your party will let you. Which is kinda sad, but unavoidable.

Nestor

LOVE the story, it's a huge reason why I play and continue to play

oren74 wrote: »

Yet when I have been in a group, for a group dungeon, with a quest...not ONCE have I seen someone semi-left behind because they were listening to the dialog of the NPC.

As other's have stated, it's because we can't stay and listen to the story. This happens more with Pugs and Ad Hocs. I have a couple of friends I group with and we read and listen to everything when grouped.

I also try to stand near and let other's read or talk when I am pugging around. I try to stand in a way that lets them know that they can take the time that they need. I guess that means not jumping around and spamming weapon attacks at the air, because there is not really any other way to stand in a way that says take your time.

I think most people would wait and allow others to read or listen, but those they are with probably assume that they don't want to.

Athas24

LOVE the story, it's a huge reason why I play and continue to play

I loved the story for 1-50 but I became sort of bored now that I'm VR4 and just trolling along through DC stuff I did on alts outside of the Pact. I'm not high enough VR to get into trials but without playing the true end game content It's become somewhat boring to just replay quests at a higher level. If there were more things to look forward to with Mages, Fighters guilds or other guilds introduced at VR levels or something...that would be interesting. I think that the lack of a compelling end game story has me hardly playing.
While I typically love the story and choices in Elder Scrolls games.. I find that after 1-50 the story lacks a lot. This leaves grinding mobs as a way to get 8-10 VR levels or running the same VR dungeons 50x in order to advance my character to complete true end game content. I'm not interested in that. I want to be immersed in a story while I level to the highest levels of my character's ability. There also aren't really any choices that I've made that affect Anything later in the game. The initial information I got about the game made it seem like choices would matter. They don't and are really just illusions of having a choice that is insignificant. I do however like that people remember deeds I did in certain areas. That's nice compared to other games where they treat you like trash after you save the world. lol.

GoatKnuckle

It's important but not a deal breaker.

Bleh, my LMB doesn't work fast enough. If people really think the quests are written that well ... I won't hold it against them. Not my cup of tea. Most smack of mediocrity at best with a few notable exceptions. Game is fun though.

GoatKnuckle

It's important but not a deal breaker.

ez2k.stoobzzub17_ESO wrote: »

The story is important to have, but I cant say that the story is the best part of the game for me. When I think of great stories in RPG games, ES is not the first one that comes to mind. The writing in 2 other RPGs that are very well known, are far superior. I will not name them as I do not wish to disrespect this amazing game. Its just that when I think of the story, the actual writing, this isn't at the top of my list of greats.

I'll say it for you. Chrono Trigger and Dragon Age Origins and toss in the Witcher for good measure.

Holycannoli

thesilverball_ESO wrote: »

If there's no story what's the point in doing what your doing? Storyline gives you a reason to really be here in my opinion. I love the story and quests and would love more PVE solo quest content.

I would ask the same in Everquest. What are you doing fighting orcs and wolves in greater faydark? What are you doing fighting in crushbone? What are you doing hunting in the oasis of marr or grouping in lower guk? Or in DAOC, hunting in lyonesse in albion or darkness falls. There's no ingame story reason why you do any of those things yet you do them.

You don't need a story on rails to guide you. In my opinion games like this work better when the story is minimalized or takes a back seat.

I'm a gamer who's never really interested in the story though. It's one of the reasons I don't play modern RPGs or console RPGs. They feel like they're on rails and you're playing a character in a predetermined story. I prefer minimalist like Daggerfall or Everquest, where you essentially make your own story within the grander storyline, and the game doesn't hold your hand or guide you from one zone to the next.

ESO has great quests and good if repetitive VO (getting sick of hearing the same voices everywhere), but I don't like that pve seems highly focused on questing. I still do it; no other MMO I've played has done it so well and that's including Star Trek Online which I think has good questing.

reften

It's a nice to have, but not sure I even know the ESO story/stories

Holycannoli wrote: »

thesilverball_ESO wrote: »

If there's no story what's the point in doing what your doing? Storyline gives you a reason to really be here in my opinion. I love the story and quests and would love more PVE solo quest content.

I would ask the same in Everquest. What are you doing fighting orcs and wolves in greater faydark? What are you doing fighting in crushbone? What are you doing hunting in the oasis of marr or grouping in lower guk? Or in DAOC, hunting in lyonesse in albion or darkness falls. There's no ingame story reason why you do any of those things yet you do them.

You don't need a story on rails to guide you. In my opinion games like this work better when the story is minimalized or takes a back seat.

I'm a gamer who's never really interested in the story though. It's one of the reasons I don't play modern RPGs or console RPGs. They feel like they're on rails and you're playing a character in a predetermined story. I prefer minimalist like Daggerfall or Everquest, where you essentially make your own story within the grander storyline, and the game doesn't hold your hand or guide you from one zone to the next.

ESO has great quests and good if repetitive VO (getting sick of hearing the same voices everywhere), but I don't like that pve seems highly focused on questing. I still do it; no other MMO I've played has done it so well and that's including Star Trek Online which I think has good questing.

Couldn't have written this better myself.

I love a good D&D genre story...and when I need a story fix, I read a book or watch a movie.

I play games for the action, MMOs to play against and with other people, to try and figure things out, for a challenge and thrill. ESO is elite here.

I don't want to listen to dialog, or read copy etc. A little bit is fine, but I swear ESO has gone to great lengths with voiceovers and story and tons and tons of quests...to which I thought was a lot of work with not much reward because most players were like me.

I guess with this poll, I'm wrong, most people play for the story.

Pseudolo

LOVE the story, it's a huge reason why I play and continue to play

There are moments in which I'd rather go to bed but I keep playing for 10 minutes more just to see how the story ends...

kenpachi480

LOVE the story, it's a huge reason why I play and continue to play

without Lore it wouldnt be much of a TES(o) game

love the fact you got to wound Molag ball

Maverick827

It's a nice to have, but not sure I even know the ESO story/stories

I like the story of the settings we visit, i.e. what's going on in, say, Reaper's March. But the individual stories don't really matter to me. I prefer to immerse myself in a greater, more general storyline and make up my own personal details.

Epona222

LOVE the story, it's a huge reason why I play and continue to play

oren74 wrote: »

Interesting, 80% of respondents say the story is a huge reason why they play...but there is rarely any discussion on the boards about the story,

Because:-

A. those of us (who seem to be a majority on this poll) who find the story important do not want to spoil it for others so keep discussion to a minimum

B. there is really not much wrong with it, the vast majority of posts on here are where people have experienced problems, bugs, or want something nerfed/buffed, whereas actually the story is quite good. My only complaint is that there a few loose ends and it would be good to find out what happened to some of the important people in each faction along the way or after Coldharbour, but that doesn't stop the story and the NPCs you meet actually being fairly engrossing and well written.

Glad that others have pointed out the "could care less" thing, I hate that. It is "couldn't care less". Couldn't. If you "could care less", then it means you care about it at least a bit. If you were running as fast as you can, then you wouldn't say "could run faster", you'd say "couldn't run faster". Same applies here, if you do not care at all about something then it makes no sense to say "could care less" which means that you care, "couldn't care less" means that it is something for which you do not care.

AceOkarito

LOVE the story, it's a huge reason why I play and continue to play

I pretty much loved the main quests lines of everything. They were all quite detailed and immersed in the lore and the characters, and overall they were just really cool.

Inversus

LOVE the story, it's a huge reason why I play and continue to play

Surprised how many said the story was important, I know it's a core part of the game but I thought there would be more skip-story type people.

Gilvoth

I could care less, I just click through PvE dialog as fast as possible

BBSooner wrote: »

Hlaren_shortsheath wrote: »

thesilverball_ESO wrote: »

If there's no story what's the point in doing what your doing? Storyline gives you a reason to really be here in my opinion. I love the story and quests and would love more PVE solo quest content.

but the main story is completely off track of anything about the lore

This is just false. Not only did the main story fit within the lore, but it draws from multiple large aspects of the lore as a whole. You're free to not like it, but attacking the plausibility of the story vs established lore is a stretch at best.

allow me to explain to you the actual lore and history of elderscrolls.

Morrowind: The Tribunal Gods of Morrowind ascended to power and became living Gods using the Heart of Lorkhan in the 1st era 675 which is about 3,570 years before the events of Morrowind in the 3rd era.

So taking the ESO timeline of events happening around the 2nd era 578, the Tribunal Gods of Morrowind are at full power. So what possibly could stop them from just taking over the Imperiel city with their godly like powers?

Molag Bal? ha...the Tribunal defeated Mehrunes Dagon in open combat on Tameriel after Dagon destroyed the city of Mourhold, putting their power on equal footing with Akatosh(only Almalexia and Soth Sil fought Dagon, Vivec was not present).....so if only two Tribunal members can defeat Dagon, Molag Bal would stand no chance against all 3 during this time period....Molag Bal could not stand toe to toe with the full power of the Tribunal of Morrowind...neither could the Tongues of the Ancient Nords or Wulfharth/ The Ash King/the Under King / a part of Talos-

(Talos the deity is made up of Tiber Septim, Ysmir/Wulfharth, and Zurin Arctus, and The Last Dragonborn becomes the final forth piece to make up the deity Talos, in other words the The Last Dragonborn ascends to become part of Talos)

Ysmir/The Underking were defeated by the Tribunal at the Battle of Red Mountain. So honestly, there would be no battle for the Imperiel City under this time line, because the only thing that made the Tribunal Surrender to Tiber Septim was they were secretly being weakened by Dagoth Ur which started around the 2nd era 882. Dagoth Ur was asleep dreaming under Red Mountain prior to the 2nd era 882, so the Tribunal at the time of ESO were at the pinnacle of their power.

So according to ESO, everyone is battling for the Imperiel City, when realistically, the Tribunal could literally just float in (yes fly in), snap their fingers and clap, and everyone within a 1,000 mile radius would just be incinerated to ash and the Tribunal could sit on the Ruby Thone....at full power (Which the Tribunal is during the 2nd era 578) thats literally all it would have taken. The Tribunal were Gods...their power rivaled the power held by Akatosh and Shor....except they had physical form...to think they would just sit by and watch and not assume power or protect them selves from Molag Bal is just absurd....Afterall, Alamalexia could see the future I do beleive so she would know what he was planning ahead of time...they are living gods at this time afterall.

2. Why is there not one single mention of this incident in any lore book or history book?

Tamriel has some pretty darn good historians....nearly every thing that has ever happened in the past has been written down or documented some where, from the Dragon Break and the Warp in the West, to the TES Famous 2920- The Last Year of the First Era by Carlovac Townaway. We have documented books on the Dwemer, accounts of the Battle of Red Mountain, in the 1st era 700.

My biggest joy with TES is how extensive the history is....there is not one single mention anywhere about any Dark Anchors, a semi-quasi Daedric invasion by Molag Bal, or anything else for that matter. If this happened, according to lore, it would have been written down some where or talked about in a book. the Empire pretty much outlawed the book The Arcturian Heresy, yet copies of it can be found in some places, as history always finds a way to be preserved somehow.

This event with Darkc Anchors, etc is just as big of an event as the Oblivion Crisis of the 4th era...surely it would be written down somewhere.

Gilvoth

I could care less, I just click through PvE dialog as fast as possible

with the above explanation in mind again i will proclaim the truth, and that truth is that elderscrolls online is completely out of balance and out of knowledge compared to actual lore.

Yusuf

LOVE the story, it's a huge reason why I play and continue to play

Rodario wrote: »

Except for the AD line. It's a bit heavily focused on Bosmer for my taste.

I loved every zone except Malabal Tor.
Let's just forget about that place...

theroyalestpythonnub18_ESO

LOVE the story, it's a huge reason why I play and continue to play

dwemer_paleologist wrote: »

BBSooner wrote: »

Hlaren_shortsheath wrote: »

thesilverball_ESO wrote: »

If there's no story what's the point in doing what your doing? Storyline gives you a reason to really be here in my opinion. I love the story and quests and would love more PVE solo quest content.

but the main story is completely off track of anything about the lore

This is just false. Not only did the main story fit within the lore, but it draws from multiple large aspects of the lore as a whole. You're free to not like it, but attacking the plausibility of the story vs established lore is a stretch at best.

allow me to explain to you the actual lore and history of elderscrolls.

Morrowind: The Tribunal Gods of Morrowind ascended to power and became living Gods using the Heart of Lorkhan in the 1st era 675 which is about 3,570 years before the events of Morrowind in the 3rd era.

So taking the ESO timeline of events happening around the 2nd era 578, the Tribunal Gods of Morrowind are at full power. So what possibly could stop them from just taking over the Imperiel city with their godly like powers?

Molag Bal? ha...the Tribunal defeated Mehrunes Dagon in open combat on Tameriel after Dagon destroyed the city of Mourhold, putting their power on equal footing with Akatosh(only Almalexia and Soth Sil fought Dagon, Vivec was not present).....so if only two Tribunal members can defeat Dagon, Molag Bal would stand no chance against all 3 during this time period....Molag Bal could not stand toe to toe with the full power of the Tribunal of Morrowind...neither could the Tongues of the Ancient Nords or Wulfharth/ The Ash King/the Under King / a part of Talos-

(Talos the deity is made up of Tiber Septim, Ysmir/Wulfharth, and Zurin Arctus, and The Last Dragonborn becomes the final forth piece to make up the deity Talos, in other words the The Last Dragonborn ascends to become part of Talos)

Ysmir/The Underking were defeated by the Tribunal at the Battle of Red Mountain. So honestly, there would be no battle for the Imperiel City under this time line, because the only thing that made the Tribunal Surrender to Tiber Septim was they were secretly being weakened by Dagoth Ur which started around the 2nd era 882. Dagoth Ur was asleep dreaming under Red Mountain prior to the 2nd era 882, so the Tribunal at the time of ESO were at the pinnacle of their power.

So according to ESO, everyone is battling for the Imperiel City, when realistically, the Tribunal could literally just float in (yes fly in), snap their fingers and clap, and everyone within a 1,000 mile radius would just be incinerated to ash and the Tribunal could sit on the Ruby Thone....at full power (Which the Tribunal is during the 2nd era 578) thats literally all it would have taken. The Tribunal were Gods...their power rivaled the power held by Akatosh and Shor....except they had physical form...to think they would just sit by and watch and not assume power or protect them selves from Molag Bal is just absurd....Afterall, Alamalexia could see the future I do beleive so she would know what he was planning ahead of time...they are living gods at this time afterall.

2. Why is there not one single mention of this incident in any lore book or history book?

Tamriel has some pretty darn good historians....nearly every thing that has ever happened in the past has been written down or documented some where, from the Dragon Break and the Warp in the West, to the TES Famous 2920- The Last Year of the First Era by Carlovac Townaway. We have documented books on the Dwemer, accounts of the Battle of Red Mountain, in the 1st era 700.

My biggest joy with TES is how extensive the history is....there is not one single mention anywhere about any Dark Anchors, a semi-quasi Daedric invasion by Molag Bal, or anything else for that matter. If this happened, according to lore, it would have been written down some where or talked about in a book. the Empire pretty much outlawed the book The Arcturian Heresy, yet copies of it can be found in some places, as history always finds a way to be preserved somehow.

This event with Darkc Anchors, etc is just as big of an event as the Oblivion Crisis of the 4th era...surely it would be written down somewhere.

Several Things

Dagon had manifested on Nirn, and made a b line to Mournhold when he was defeated. He was not at full power, and he was summoned. That was not a full scale invasion. Molag Bal is in Coldharbour, and consolidating massive amounts of power, and has been doing so for years.

As far as I know, the Tribunal doesn't give a rats tail about the Ruby Throne. That's Jorunn's job. Still, it makes sense that they'd rather have someone they could control in the Imperial City. Also, the writers have dropped hints that Vivec and Sotha Sil are preoccupied with something else.

As far as the Planemeld never being mentioned, there are several possible explanations, and it arguably was brought up in The Remanada.

Snakes and the warnings of snakes went unheeded and the land bled with ghosts and deepset holes unto cold harbors.

I think the most probable explanation as to why we haven't heard about it would be that after the establishment of the Septim Dynasty and the Pan-Tamrielic Empire, records of the Planemeld was actively erased from history. The Empire wouldn't want accounts of Reachmen on the Ruby throne, or necromancers given reign over the Imperial City while its citizens were being dragged from their homes and sacrificed to a Daedric Prince.

The historians aren't really that consistent either. Wasn't there a giant soul-sucking city floating around after the Oblivion Crisis that was just... forgotten?

BBSooner

LOVE the story, it's a huge reason why I play and continue to play

dwemer_paleologist,1323827 wrote:

BBSooner wrote: »

Hlaren_shortsheath wrote: »

thesilverball_ESO wrote: »

If there's no story what's the point in doing what your doing? Storyline gives you a reason to really be here in my opinion. I love the story and quests and would love more PVE solo quest content.

but the main story is completely off track of anything about the lore

This is just false. Not only did the main story fit within the lore, but it draws from multiple large aspects of the lore as a whole. You're free to not like it, but attacking the plausibility of the story vs established lore is a stretch at best.

allow me to explain to you the actual lore and history of elderscrolls.

Morrowind: The Tribunal Gods of Morrowind ascended to power and became living Gods using the Heart of Lorkhan in the 1st era 675 which is about 3,570 years before the events of Morrowind in the 3rd era.

So taking the ESO timeline of events happening around the 2nd era 578, the Tribunal Gods of Morrowind are at full power. So what possibly could stop them from just taking over the Imperiel city with their godly like powers?

Molag Bal? ha...the Tribunal defeated Mehrunes Dagon in open combat on Tameriel after Dagon destroyed the city of Mourhold, putting their power on equal footing with Akatosh(only Almalexia and Soth Sil fought Dagon, Vivec was not present).....so if only two Tribunal members can defeat Dagon, Molag Bal would stand no chance against all 3 during this time period....Molag Bal could not stand toe to toe with the full power of the Tribunal of Morrowind...neither could the Tongues of the Ancient Nords or Wulfharth/ The Ash King/the Under King / a part of Talos-

(Talos the deity is made up of Tiber Septim, Ysmir/Wulfharth, and Zurin Arctus, and The Last Dragonborn becomes the final forth piece to make up the deity Talos, in other words the The Last Dragonborn ascends to become part of Talos)

Ysmir/The Underking were defeated by the Tribunal at the Battle of Red Mountain. So honestly, there would be no battle for the Imperiel City under this time line, because the only thing that made the Tribunal Surrender to Tiber Septim was they were secretly being weakened by Dagoth Ur which started around the 2nd era 882. Dagoth Ur was asleep dreaming under Red Mountain prior to the 2nd era 882, so the Tribunal at the time of ESO were at the pinnacle of their power.

So according to ESO, everyone is battling for the Imperiel City, when realistically, the Tribunal could literally just float in (yes fly in), snap their fingers and clap, and everyone within a 1,000 mile radius would just be incinerated to ash and the Tribunal could sit on the Ruby Thone....at full power (Which the Tribunal is during the 2nd era 578) thats literally all it would have taken. The Tribunal were Gods...their power rivaled the power held by Akatosh and Shor....except they had physical form...to think they would just sit by and watch and not assume power or protect them selves from Molag Bal is just absurd....Afterall, Alamalexia could see the future I do beleive so she would know what he was planning ahead of time...they are living gods at this time afterall.

2. Why is there not one single mention of this incident in any lore book or history book?

Tamriel has some pretty darn good historians....nearly every thing that has ever happened in the past has been written down or documented some where, from the Dragon Break and the Warp in the West, to the TES Famous 2920- The Last Year of the First Era by Carlovac Townaway. We have documented books on the Dwemer, accounts of the Battle of Red Mountain, in the 1st era 700.

My biggest joy with TES is how extensive the history is....there is not one single mention anywhere about any Dark Anchors, a semi-quasi Daedric invasion by Molag Bal, or anything else for that matter. If this happened, according to lore, it would have been written down some where or talked about in a book. the Empire pretty much outlawed the book The Arcturian Heresy, yet copies of it can be found in some places, as history always finds a way to be preserved somehow.

This event with Darkc Anchors, etc is just as big of an event as the Oblivion Crisis of the 4th era...surely it would be written down somewhere.

Oh no, let me explain the lore to you since you seem to mix between plausibility ... and what actually is in the lore.

We're playing through the Interregnum period of the second age - an established "event" if you will - where the collapse of the Akaviri Potentate (and subsequent removal of the Akaviri people from Tamriel) left a power vacuum in Cyrodiil. It is at this point that petty states and makeshift alliances form to wrest power from each other, and the crown passes to so many warlords/would be emperors that their names are lost to time.

This is established in the lore before the creation of ESO.


On to your points.

1) "The Tribunal would have just taken over."

But they didn't. Or if they had, based on the Interregnum established in the lore already, not only didn't hold the throne very long but was kicked out with nothing more than a whimper. Could they have - maybe. Should they/would they have - they didn't seem interested in the throne to be honest. They seem content to rule their corner of Tamriel (unless the big bad Akaviri potentate had a hold the continent).

2) "Why no mention in a lore book."

Because "Interregnum".The records, documents, artifacts of the pretender kings were lost to the ages (or wiped out by Tiber). The setting is perfect for events to be lost in history.

There is a base for possibility for ESO to exist in the lore. Don't let "Woulda/shoulda/coulda" with the not-so-immortal Tribunal make you think otherwise. I love the Dunmer lore and culture - my only real "meh" about it is Vivec.

Edit: I should also mention that it's already been confirmed that the ESO events are "canon" as far as the grand scale is concerned. People against the ESO story might as well be arguing that the Oblivion Crisis isn't canon.

MornaBaine

LOVE the story, it's a huge reason why I play and continue to play

Great poll, thank you. Wake up ZoS.

Elloa

LOVE the story, it's a huge reason why I play and continue to play

For me ESO is all about the story. I love it and it's the story that make this game so special.

I'd be happy to have more Story-driven updates in future but I understand they are not the priority and beside I'm not done with the main story yet, so no hurry:

There is of course other aspect I LOVE in ESO like the crafting and Dungeons, but it's mostly the story I enjoy the most!

BBSooner

LOVE the story, it's a huge reason why I play and continue to play

theroyalestpythonnub18_ESO wrote: »

dwemer_paleologist wrote: »

BBSooner wrote: »

Hlaren_shortsheath wrote: »

thesilverball_ESO wrote: »

If there's no story what's the point in doing what your doing? Storyline gives you a reason to really be here in my opinion. I love the story and quests and would love more PVE solo quest content.

but the main story is completely off track of anything about the lore

This is just false. Not only did the main story fit within the lore, but it draws from multiple large aspects of the lore as a whole. You're free to not like it, but attacking the plausibility of the story vs established lore is a stretch at best.

allow me to explain to you the actual lore and history of elderscrolls.

Morrowind: The Tribunal Gods of Morrowind ascended to power and became living Gods using the Heart of Lorkhan in the 1st era 675 which is about 3,570 years before the events of Morrowind in the 3rd era.

So taking the ESO timeline of events happening around the 2nd era 578, the Tribunal Gods of Morrowind are at full power. So what possibly could stop them from just taking over the Imperiel city with their godly like powers?

Molag Bal? ha...the Tribunal defeated Mehrunes Dagon in open combat on Tameriel after Dagon destroyed the city of Mourhold, putting their power on equal footing with Akatosh(only Almalexia and Soth Sil fought Dagon, Vivec was not present).....so if only two Tribunal members can defeat Dagon, Molag Bal would stand no chance against all 3 during this time period....Molag Bal could not stand toe to toe with the full power of the Tribunal of Morrowind...neither could the Tongues of the Ancient Nords or Wulfharth/ The Ash King/the Under King / a part of Talos-

(Talos the deity is made up of Tiber Septim, Ysmir/Wulfharth, and Zurin Arctus, and The Last Dragonborn becomes the final forth piece to make up the deity Talos, in other words the The Last Dragonborn ascends to become part of Talos)

Ysmir/The Underking were defeated by the Tribunal at the Battle of Red Mountain. So honestly, there would be no battle for the Imperiel City under this time line, because the only thing that made the Tribunal Surrender to Tiber Septim was they were secretly being weakened by Dagoth Ur which started around the 2nd era 882. Dagoth Ur was asleep dreaming under Red Mountain prior to the 2nd era 882, so the Tribunal at the time of ESO were at the pinnacle of their power.

So according to ESO, everyone is battling for the Imperiel City, when realistically, the Tribunal could literally just float in (yes fly in), snap their fingers and clap, and everyone within a 1,000 mile radius would just be incinerated to ash and the Tribunal could sit on the Ruby Thone....at full power (Which the Tribunal is during the 2nd era 578) thats literally all it would have taken. The Tribunal were Gods...their power rivaled the power held by Akatosh and Shor....except they had physical form...to think they would just sit by and watch and not assume power or protect them selves from Molag Bal is just absurd....Afterall, Alamalexia could see the future I do beleive so she would know what he was planning ahead of time...they are living gods at this time afterall.

2. Why is there not one single mention of this incident in any lore book or history book?

Tamriel has some pretty darn good historians....nearly every thing that has ever happened in the past has been written down or documented some where, from the Dragon Break and the Warp in the West, to the TES Famous 2920- The Last Year of the First Era by Carlovac Townaway. We have documented books on the Dwemer, accounts of the Battle of Red Mountain, in the 1st era 700.

My biggest joy with TES is how extensive the history is....there is not one single mention anywhere about any Dark Anchors, a semi-quasi Daedric invasion by Molag Bal, or anything else for that matter. If this happened, according to lore, it would have been written down some where or talked about in a book. the Empire pretty much outlawed the book The Arcturian Heresy, yet copies of it can be found in some places, as history always finds a way to be preserved somehow.

This event with Darkc Anchors, etc is just as big of an event as the Oblivion Crisis of the 4th era...surely it would be written down somewhere.

Several Things

Dagon had manifested on Nirn, and made a b line to Mournhold when he was defeated. He was not at full power, and he was summoned. That was not a full scale invasion. Molag Bal is in Coldharbour, and consolidating massive amounts of power, and has been doing so for years.

As far as I know, the Tribunal doesn't give a rats tail about the Ruby Throne. That's Jorunn's job. Still, it makes sense that they'd rather have someone they could control in the Imperial City. Also, the writers have dropped hints that Vivec and Sotha Sil are preoccupied with something else.

As far as the Planemeld never being mentioned, there are several possible explanations, and it arguably was brought up in The Remanada.

Snakes and the warnings of snakes went unheeded and the land bled with ghosts and deepset holes unto cold harbors.

I think the most probable explanation as to why we haven't heard about it would be that after the establishment of the Septim Dynasty and the Pan-Tamrielic Empire, records of the Planemeld was actively erased from history. The Empire wouldn't want accounts of Reachmen on the Ruby throne, or necromancers given reign over the Imperial City while its citizens were being dragged from their homes and sacrificed to a Daedric Prince.

The historians aren't really that consistent either. Wasn't there a giant soul-sucking city floating around after the Oblivion Crisis that was just... forgotten?

Agreed!

ZigoSid

It's important but not a deal breaker.

Hope we'll get more cool story, factions related if possible and not too many boring and common ones like Craglorn.