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Why you are losing subs v2.0
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Last thread was moved out of CS which are the people that need to see it for the life of me I don't understand why so here is a copy and pasta!
Just thought you ought to know!
- Every single time you patch something goes wrong; FPS bug, broken skills, broken launcher etc etc whats the point of PTS if you aren't even going close to using for the very reason it was created!
-Exploiters in PVP be it troll camps, getting past closed gate broken ability abuse or general exploit abuse
-PvP has fast become repetitive and very boring add some other options with close world PvP in ASAP
-Faction Labels not appearing at all until its too late in PvP
-Population imbalance in PvP
-Rollbacks in PvP
-Lag in PvP
-Mass queues in PvP
-Lack of balance in PvP
-Buggy Siege and abilities in PvP and PvE
- We have been waiting on A LOT of content that should have been around in release; Imperial city, Poisons to make mushroom herbs viable, Jewel crafting anyone? Thieves guild/ Dark brotherhood etc etc
- You don't listen to the community we asked for a PvP arena we get a PvE arena for one minor example
- Game was arguably more stable in beta than on a patch day
-Upper Craglorn was a joke of an update
-Adding a new trait with a 30 day research timer was an awfully cheap way to try and "extend" current content
-Graphical bugs that cause you to need to reload your character
-The fact that for 2 days people have had to run the game via the ESO.exe other than launcher, really sucks if you hadn't been able to update.
-Random D/Cs when things get too much in a small area in both PvP and PvE
- 1 new bunch of set gear and 2 Level cap raises in less than 6 months
- A complete lack of transparency from the Devs/CS reps as to when problems occur and your general game mechanics slaps theory crafters serious and casual in the face
- Bugs in the Guild Store and Guild UIs
- Bugs in various Quests
- Bugs with mount noises sometimes they are there sometimes not
- Infinite loading screens
- Various errors and bugs iirc error 201 or 301 the CS rep told me to spam logging in to fix my problem which after 90 minutes I gave up (3rd time i was hit by this error locking me out for more than 24 hours and i was not offered free time costs you nothing and keeps you subs)
- The fact that when ESO is running smoothly you actually feel lucky and like there is impending sense of something bad about to happen
- THERE IS VERY LITTLE TO DO AT MAX LEVEL AND YOU GET BORED AWFULLY FAST
I run a trade guild on DC side the lowest population of the three factions and I kick about 10 in-actives DAILY that is a lot of people leaving your game 2% of my capacity everyday is impossible to keep up with recruitment.
I am more than certain I missed a few so please feel free to add them in! Should the nine divines decide for a dev to actually comment on this thread asking me to elaborate on said issues. How about you check your bug reports we all make them and I'm almost positive you would have mountains of unread reports sitting there.
Just thought you ought to know!
- Every single time you patch something goes wrong; FPS bug, broken skills, broken launcher etc etc whats the point of PTS if you aren't even going close to using for the very reason it was created!
-Exploiters in PVP be it troll camps, getting past closed gate broken ability abuse or general exploit abuse
-PvP has fast become repetitive and very boring add some other options with close world PvP in ASAP
-Faction Labels not appearing at all until its too late in PvP
-Population imbalance in PvP
-Rollbacks in PvP
-Lag in PvP
-Mass queues in PvP
-Lack of balance in PvP
-Buggy Siege and abilities in PvP and PvE
- We have been waiting on A LOT of content that should have been around in release; Imperial city, Poisons to make mushroom herbs viable, Jewel crafting anyone? Thieves guild/ Dark brotherhood etc etc
- You don't listen to the community we asked for a PvP arena we get a PvE arena for one minor example
- Game was arguably more stable in beta than on a patch day
-Upper Craglorn was a joke of an update
-Adding a new trait with a 30 day research timer was an awfully cheap way to try and "extend" current content
-Graphical bugs that cause you to need to reload your character
-The fact that for 2 days people have had to run the game via the ESO.exe other than launcher, really sucks if you hadn't been able to update.
-Random D/Cs when things get too much in a small area in both PvP and PvE
- 1 new bunch of set gear and 2 Level cap raises in less than 6 months
- A complete lack of transparency from the Devs/CS reps as to when problems occur and your general game mechanics slaps theory crafters serious and casual in the face
- Bugs in the Guild Store and Guild UIs
- Bugs in various Quests
- Bugs with mount noises sometimes they are there sometimes not
- Infinite loading screens
- Various errors and bugs iirc error 201 or 301 the CS rep told me to spam logging in to fix my problem which after 90 minutes I gave up (3rd time i was hit by this error locking me out for more than 24 hours and i was not offered free time costs you nothing and keeps you subs)
- The fact that when ESO is running smoothly you actually feel lucky and like there is impending sense of something bad about to happen
- THERE IS VERY LITTLE TO DO AT MAX LEVEL AND YOU GET BORED AWFULLY FAST
I run a trade guild on DC side the lowest population of the three factions and I kick about 10 in-actives DAILY that is a lot of people leaving your game 2% of my capacity everyday is impossible to keep up with recruitment.
I am more than certain I missed a few so please feel free to add them in! Should the nine divines decide for a dev to actually comment on this thread asking me to elaborate on said issues. How about you check your bug reports we all make them and I'm almost positive you would have mountains of unread reports sitting there.
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seanolan✭✭✭✭Since they ALWAYS post that they've moved a thread, and there is no such post on your original thread, I suspect you just F-ed up and want to blame the mods to lend credence to your persecution complex. While I don't disagree with many of your points, you make it sound so "gloom and doom" and start with the claim that they are losing subs. Well, show me proof that they are having a net loss of subscriptions. Cite your source or render the whole thread unsupported by fact.2
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✭Since they ALWAYS post that they've moved a thread, and there is no such post on your original thread, I suspect you just F-ed up and want to blame the mods to lend credence to your persecution complex. While I don't disagree with many of your points, you make it sound so "gloom and doom" and start with the claim that they are losing subs. Well, show me proof that they are having a net loss of subscriptions. Cite your source or render the whole thread unsupported by fact.
I'm actually still waiting on the message from my inbox, no i didn't F-up as you put it. Hit CS from inside the thread and realized it was gone had to track into my discussions to find it again. Trusting fella aren't you guy?Edited by KBKB on October 10, 2014 3:36PM1 -
seanolan✭✭✭✭The mods have never been accused, not once in the time I have been reading, of moving a thread without posting a message within the thread that they have moved it. So you are claiming that you are the first.0
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✭The mods have never been accused, not once in the time I have been reading, of moving a thread without posting a message within the thread that they have moved it. So you are claiming that you are the first.
Yes I am, Yes I am.
Seriously I agree its a little odd normally there is an email in my inbox by now which i was looking forward to so I could ask WHY!?1 -
seanolan✭✭✭✭Actually, since you STILL haven't given any citation for your claim that they are losing subs, I would say you are, "Slugger".0
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✭Actually, since you STILL haven't given any citation for your claim that they are losing subs, I would say you are, "Slugger".
I run a trade guild on DC side the lowest population of the three factions and I kick about 10 in-actives DAILY that is a lot of people leaving your game 2% of my capacity everyday is impossible to keep up with recruitment.
Ask around with some GMs better yet check your own guilds inactivy/logs for kicks/friends list. You can't possibly think they are even close to the amount of players at launch.2 -
seanolan✭✭✭✭Your trade guild having inactives does not demonstrate a net loss of subscriptions. All it shows is that your trade guild has inactives. My trade guilds (475+, 4 of them) kick 10-50 inactives a week (ESE has a very low inactive threshhold, like 3 or 5 days), and are replaced almost immediately because of aggressive recruitment. You have no information (and neither do I) about how many new subs ESO gets, nor whether these new subs outnumber the cancellations. Therefore, your premise is flawed. All your rant can establish is your own dissatisfaction (which, as I have said, I share some of) with how the game is currently working. And your conviction that the mods moved your first thread without any announcement, message or other indication, while incidentally leaving this thread in the same location you claim to have posted the first one in, just adds to my personal conviction that you are a bit over the top in your conviction of your own infallibility.0
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✭Your trade guild having inactives does not demonstrate a net loss of subscriptions. All it shows is that your trade guild has inactives. My trade guilds (475+, 4 of them) kick 10-50 inactives a week (ESE has a very low inactive threshhold, like 3 or 5 days), and are replaced almost immediately because of aggressive recruitment. You have no information (and neither do I) about how many new subs ESO gets, nor whether these new subs outnumber the cancellations. Therefore, your premise is flawed. All your rant can establish is your own dissatisfaction (which, as I have said, I share some of) with how the game is currently working. And your conviction that the mods moved your first thread without any announcement, message or other indication, while incidentally leaving this thread in the same location you claim to have posted the first one in, just adds to my personal conviction that you are a bit over the top in your conviction of your own infallibility.
I have a 2 week kick policy if they aren't back by then i guess they are all hanging out for the Dark Brotherhood skill line then?
I think you just want an argument pretty sure I'm aware of where I post things as the CS forum is feeling like my second home of late.
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seanolan✭✭✭✭Because google is a primary source....the first autocomplete for "Obama is" comes up "Obama is Osama". Good argument. Way to defend your position. I can feel my brain cells dying in protest of communication with you on this topic.2
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✭Because google is a primary source....the first autocomplete for "Obama is" comes up "Obama is Osama". Good argument. Way to defend your position. I can feel my brain cells dying in protest of communication with you on this topic.
Well the feeling mutual if you can't see the numbers are declining due to friends/guild lists you need to take off the rose coloured glasses son. I let alone know 4 people IRL who don't play anymore and the FPS bug back in 1.3 wiped out the majority of my PvP guild.
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✭Anyway quality hustle I'm off to bed hope you don't get a queue to enter the mega server or anything =D1 -
seanolan✭✭✭✭Black-Bird wrote: »Because google is a primary source....the first autocomplete for "Obama is" comes up "Obama is Osama". Good argument. Way to defend your position. I can feel my brain cells dying in protest of communication with you on this topic.
Well the feeling mutual if you can't see the numbers are declining due to friends/guild lists you need to take off the rose coloured glasses son. I let alone know 4 people IRL who don't play anymore and the FPS bug back in 1.3 wiped out the majority of my PvP guild.
I love the way you try to denigrate my opinion by calling me "son" and "slugger". Since my actual age is 44, I don't really mind, since if you are actually old enough to be calling me these names legitimately, you obviously are suffering from senility as well as a persecution complex and delusions.
That said, you obviously are convinced of your divinely inspired knowledge whose source, aside from I assume the eight/nine divines, is google's autocomplete (10,000 morons believing something MUST make it true!), your single trade guild (must be terribly popular with you as its head), and apparently word of mouth. As well as the persecution your thread has faced from the mods on here. Who have yet to move this thread. Obviously a devious plot on their part to lull you into a false sense of non-persecution. But still...we know they're out to get you, don't we?
Aye, me, this shall be the last time I bump your non-thread. After all, there has never been an argument consisting of only one idiot. But that's all right, since surely the mods will be locking it and deleting your account at any moment now in their campaign to target you and only you in their secretive plot.Edited by seanolan on October 10, 2014 4:27PM2 -
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✭Black-Bird wrote: »Because google is a primary source....the first autocomplete for "Obama is" comes up "Obama is Osama". Good argument. Way to defend your position. I can feel my brain cells dying in protest of communication with you on this topic.
Well the feeling mutual if you can't see the numbers are declining due to friends/guild lists you need to take off the rose coloured glasses son. I let alone know 4 people IRL who don't play anymore and the FPS bug back in 1.3 wiped out the majority of my PvP guild.
I love the way you try to denigrate my opinion by calling me "son" and "slugger". Since my actual age is 44, I don't really mind, since if you are actually old enough to be calling me these names legitimately, you obviously are suffering from senility as well as a persecution complex and delusions.
That said, you obviously are convinced of your divinely inspired knowledge whose source, aside from I assume the eight/nine divines, is google's autocomplete (10,000 morons believing something MUST make it true!), your single trade guild (must be terribly popular with you as its head), and apparently word of mouth. As well as the persecution your thread has faced from the mods on here. Who have yet to move this thread. Obviously a devious plot on their part to lull you into a false sense of non-persecution. But still...we know they're out to get you, don't we?
Aye, me, this shall be the last time I bump your non-thread. But that's all right, since surely the mods will be locking it and deleting your account at any moment now in their campaign to target you and only you in their secretive plot.
Oh wow really glad i did one last refresh before bed. People leaving the game and not logging on for 14+ days at a time has nothing to do with the lead of one of their five guild slots.
Thread might be locked, but really it shouldn't be because it was supplying feedback as to why I have unsubbed. You were the one who rode in here on your high horse. Did i say the devs were out to get me? i must have missed that in my senility and various complexes hmm funny that.
You are only fooling yourself to think that numbers aren't on the decline I'm simply amazed you could think otherwise and call BS if at least one of your guilds with a higher inactive policy than ESE doesn't have a high number of inactive players. proof is in the pudding and all of our friends lists/guild lists.
If you keep on telling yourself it isn't so to the mirror one day it might come true
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Bollerlotte✭✭✭/sign with topic.
i like to add the lack of addons aility telling me whats going on, partywide0 -
ZOS_MichelleA✭✭✭✭✭We understand and respect that sometimes people will leave The Elder Scrolls Online community. Thank you for taking the time to share your feedback with us, Black-Bird, and we wish you the very best. We're closing this thread now per our Code of Conduct policy on quitting/goodbye threads.1
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