Molag Bal Fight: Terrible or Just Right?

MornaBaine

It's a HUGE deal! You've sojourned with the Five Companions, become a famous hero and now it's time to get your soul back and take down Molag Bal! If you've defeated Molag Bal please take the poll and in comments tell us what you did or did not like about the fight.

jrgray93

It was just okay, nothing especially good or bad.

That's better. I'd ask a mod to close the other poll.

MornaBaine

It was terrible and I hated it.

jrgray93 wrote: »

That's better. I'd ask a mod to close the other poll.

Did, plus changed title in the meantime.

BBSooner

It was fantastic and I really enjoyed it.

BBSooner wrote: »

Though it was too easy, The cinematic nature of the entire encounter was pretty satisfying, especially since the game hasn't been blasting you with cinematic fights over and over.

Enemy-of-Coldharbour

It was just okay, nothing especially good or bad.

It would have been nice if he dropped some unique loot.

Greatfellow

It was terrible and I hated it.

I hated it, but upon winning it I felt the biggest sense of accomplishment to that point in the game.

Nestor

It was just okay, nothing especially good or bad.

I have never liked long drawn out Boss battles. Metroid anyone? Going through the game taking on mobs and trash mobs, figuring out the puzzles and who to talk to and where are the parts I really like. Getting to a Boss that is 100 times harder than anything else along the way is just tiresome.

Sure a Boss fight should be challenging, but to me, it's better to have the challenge to get to the boss. Most TES games are just that way.

Now, the Molag Bal was just a tedious long drawn out fight and I am glad that I probably wont' have to do this for quite a long time, as I have taken 3 characters past him now. All my other characters are Mules, mostly. However as a Boss fights go, it was not that bad a fight, as it just took time. Not some specific sequence of events that had to be triggered at just the right time. It meant leveraging your character's strengths and weaknesses to prevail in a long drawn out fight.

elwhy

It was a letdown and I was disappointed.

I don't really remember the fight. I just remember running up to the fight, magically killing everything, and then killing Molag Bal. I don't remember it being hard, I actually thought it was too easy because I didn't have to try, and I didn't understand why I was suddenly so invincible. I didn't feel challenged, the fighters guild harvester pre-nerf was harder.
And I'm a medium armor, bow/dw nightblade, so it's not like I have an op build.

Rodario

It was just okay, nothing especially good or bad.

Would have found it fantastic if it weren't so incredibly easy.

Maotti

It was good enough, i just wish he had actually finished his taunting lines to you during the battle.

If you turn on NPC in chat window you will see this.

MornaBaine

It was terrible and I hated it.

I think the perceptions of this fight probably have a lot to do with what class you were when you did it. For me, Desrto Staff Mage Vampire, I was just like, "What? I have to RUN? THAT is my strategy????" I mean seriously, I am this fabulous mage who has even become a vampire as well as a famed hero throughout the lands and not only do my boon companions, the magnificent Five totally bugger off and abandon me at the last possible second to meet my final fate ALONE (yeah some extremely colorful expressions regarding their character, honor, morals and general lack of hygiene, all of which ZoS would quickly censor, come to mind over THAT one!) but the fact that I have mastered some amazingly powerful magicka means NOTHING. Nope, what "beats" the freaking Prince of Schemes is my ability to... dodge. And run away. THAT being the case... this fight lasted WAY TOO LONG. I was at first incredibly frustrated and thinking there just had to be something I was missing. Nope...the answer really was just that lame.

Maulkin

It was just okay, nothing especially good or bad.

Rodario wrote: »

Would have found it fantastic if it weren't so incredibly easy.

I'm with this guy.

Cinematics and build-up: great.
Actual fight difficulty: not so great.

That might be just me though. I've seen a lot of posts where people are complaining about the difficulty so I guess it's different per person.

khele23eb17_ESO

It was a letdown and I was disappointed.

The fight was OK (way too easy tho), but the aftermath was a huge letdown for me.

Rosveen

It was just okay, nothing especially good or bad.

I remember thinking "oh ***, I'm so screwed" when the titans spawned. Then they dropped like flies. I understand I'm imbued with Meridia's power, but... really?

I don't like the fact that I could practically light attack the Prince of Domination to death, but the build-up was good, so I wasn't disappointed with the quest as a whole.

GrimMauKin

It was just okay, nothing especially good or bad.

It was okay but relatively easy when all was said an done. There were some serious balance issues in the Ebonheart Pact storyline and, for me, the Lyris Doppelganger NPC (who wasn't even the boss of the level) was way harder than Molag Bal.

Kreetar

It was just okay, nothing especially good or bad.

despite freaking out over not being able to beat him the first few times, once I did, it was really like "so what?". I liked taking down walls and enemies leading up to him the most with Meridia's powers. that was super fun.

Gythral

It was terrible and I hated it.

I play games to entertained not bored by some lame it's got billions of HP instead of a fun fight!

Elvinfire

It was fantastic and I really enjoyed it.

As a sorcerer in LA it was tough, and I died many times, but when I finally did it.... I wet myself.

Stroggnonimus

It was fantastic and I really enjoyed it.

I think that was the best or atleast 2nd- after Oblivion end battle in TES. Skyrim's was piece of crap, Morrowind's was ok.

Thrymbauld

It was a letdown and I was disappointed.

Um...can you even take damage in this fight? I don't remember a large amount of dodging, I don't remember it being overly long, and frankly I played the whole fight as if I was invincible because I never actually saw my health bar blip.

To be honest, until seeing this thread, I thought it was an interactive cut scene. I actually thought I WAS invincible during it and couldn't be killed, and that winning it was a foregone conclusion. I don't recall any point during the fight giving me an indication otherwise.

Maybe when I go through with a more fragile alt I'll see something I missed, I guess.

chipputer

It was just okay, nothing especially good or bad.

The fight with Molag Bal, himself, was incredibly boring and a huge letdown. I was hoping to fight some huge manifestation that would actually require me to use my brain, not just some vaguely human-shaped-and-height form with incredibly easy to predict tells and the usual, "pissy boss mode," where he spams mobs at you for a bit.

The run leading up to him was an incredibly fun change of pace, though. Zapping everything instantly didn't get old at all and I very much enjoyed that they really did make you feel like you were imbued with the power of Akatosh (or whoever it was that you got the powers from) at that point.

However, the whole storyline is still meh, making the battle just okay. Not great. I still don't get why I have to be upset that The Prophet was actually Varen. I didn't get a choice to not care, my character's dialogue was chosen for him and the reveal wasn't even upsetting or monumental. It was just, "oh yeah I'm actually this guy." Kind of how the whole main plot was, really. Just, "oh yeah and then this happened."

MornaBaine

It was terrible and I hated it.

Thrymbauld wrote: »

Um...can you even take damage in this fight? I don't remember a large amount of dodging, I don't remember it being overly long, and frankly I played the whole fight as if I was invincible because I never actually saw my health bar blip.

To be honest, until seeing this thread, I thought it was an interactive cut scene. I actually thought I WAS invincible during it and couldn't be killed, and that winning it was a foregone conclusion. I don't recall any point during the fight giving me an indication otherwise.

Maybe when I go through with a more fragile alt I'll see something I missed, I guess.

LOL What freaking class were you playing my friend????

Resueht

It was just okay, nothing especially good or bad.

Thrymbauld wrote: »

Um...can you even take damage in this fight? I don't remember a large amount of dodging, I don't remember it being overly long, and frankly I played the whole fight as if I was invincible because I never actually saw my health bar blip.

To be honest, until seeing this thread, I thought it was an interactive cut scene. I actually thought I WAS invincible during it and couldn't be killed, and that winning it was a foregone conclusion. I don't recall any point during the fight giving me an indication otherwise.

Maybe when I go through with a more fragile alt I'll see something I missed, I guess.

Yeah I tanked him the entire fight with medium armor. Blocking did quite the trick too.

Still, I thought it was good fast paced fight for a melee fighter. Lots of dodging and moving around. But I was kind of expecting more after he got down to 50%, like move faster or hit harder. The titans show up, but yeah, they go down like butter. I got the sense of accomplishment, but wanted to last a little longer.

Also, I think I was 50/VR 1 when I did it, so they may have some impact, but my gear was all from high 30s/low 40s (except 2H sword).

Drazhar14

It was fantastic and I really enjoyed it.

It was a pretty epic fight. By the time you reach level 50, you should have a pretty good build down pat. I had no problem defeating Molag Bal.

s7732425ub17_ESO

It was a letdown and I was disappointed.

Mannimarco was so much harder and more fun than Molag Bal.

NordJitsu

It was fantastic and I really enjoyed it.

I really really enjoyed the epicness of it all. No game has ever made me feel like more of a bad-a** than this one in the final scene.

Blowing through walls, shrugging off Daedric titans like they were a joke, I really felt like I'd been imbued with the power of the divines.

My only gripe with the fight was that it was significantly easier than I expected. There was no real challenge to defeating Molag Bal, which feels kinda wrong.

That said, I think the feeling of power may have been lost if he'd been more challenging. So, this time, I'm willing to forgive the easy final boss encounter. Usually it would turn me off.

Even Odds

It was fantastic and I really enjoyed it.

This fight is incredibly easy if you understand the game mechanics...


For some reason though there are some very very slow people who have a hard time with this fight and refuse to listen to you when you give them advice on how to beat it easily.

The amulet of kings amplify s all healing by like 1000% or something ridiculous.

On my templar healer with a healing staff I literally just stood my ground against molag ball....I never blocked, ran, or dodge rolled. I spammed puncturing sweep (that has a healing element to it) and would sometimes use heavy attack to regain magika. I don't even think my health bar dipped below 70%...and when it did it was back to 100% within seconds thanks to the heal on puncturing sweep.

I won the fight at 100% health without even moving and letting Molag beat on me,

On my NB the fight took a little longer since I was full stamina based but I used one ability in the NB siphoning line that did a small amount of damage and regained health.

Anyone who has a difficult time with this fight is either
A) A vampire and gets one-shotted
B ) A sorcerer who does not have 1 poiint invested in healing staff
C) A NB who does not have 1 point invested in the siphon heal
D) Refused to listen and spec the 1 point into healing staff or a healing ability and deserves to struggle terribly.

With even one low level healing ability it is easy mode to defeat him because the low level heal becomes elite thanks to the amulet of kings.

Trust me people....1 point is no big deal....spend it on a healing ability and this fight becomes a cake walk.

Nestor

It was just okay, nothing especially good or bad.

NordJitsu wrote: »

Blowing through walls, shrugging off Daedric titans like they were a joke,

Heh, I really enjoy sneaking past the first Titan you come to, the one before the entrance to the room that has an old friend being tortured. In my first character who died a few times because I did not research how to do this fight, I killed that thing about 6 times. It got to be, really, again with this? One time I tried to sneak past him and was successful, so now all my characters just sneak past.

Inversus

It was fantastic and I really enjoyed it.

I loved one hitting everything

although it is a bit easy, would a liked something a little harder considering I completed it without going below 70% health using a nightblade which I'd only built for aoe farming, which coincidentally had fully broken armour

thesilverball_ESO

It was terrible and I hated it.

Struggled through it with my DK not to long after launch and died about 5 times trying to get through it. Dodged and ran like a little girl. Was basically just frustrating even though I finally beat him. Had a much easier time with my alt (sorcerer) the second time around but did not enjoy the experience. Personally I got nothing out of the fight but I'm not sure what I would suggest either.

Tavore1138

It was fantastic and I really enjoyed it.

When I first did tried it I found it tough, took me several gems to get through it but both the scenes before and the fight felt... big.

I was pleased when I beat it, the fight taught me lessons about how the game needed to be played and caused me to switch to 3rd person mode which has proved key.

It was a good introduction to the original VR content.

Definitely a fitting conclusion to the main quest.