Good grief, after all this time!!

GrimMauKin

So there I am, stood in front of a dungeon boss trying to solo it and .... my skills keys stop working again (not great when they can kill you with a single blow).

This has been a problem from day one and I've mentioned it numerous times, we gone through a shed load of patches and hotfixes and Zenimax still can't seem to get the basics of key input working reliably.

I hadn't had this issue for a while so I'll get an eye out in case it was something else (I was trying to activate Shadowy Disguise which is pretty buggy itself).

Things have seemed particularly bad it group situations when things get busy but that's no excuse; this is pretty fundamental stuff if this bug is back.

KhajitFurTrader

I have one question for you: are you on WiFi?

GoatKnuckle

KhajitFurTrader wrote: »

I have one question for you: are you on WiFi?

Follow up question ... are you using a wireless keyboard?

Tamanous

Is this a lock out of function briefly and stuck in an animation lock like with the charge attack bug? Or do you lose any ability to sprint, block, use skills, or even zone or log out?

Aoife32001

GrimMauKin wrote: »

So there I am, stood in front of a dungeon boss trying to solo it and .... my skills keys stop working again (not great when they can kill you with a single blow).

This has been a problem from day one and I've mentioned it numerous times, we gone through a shed load of patches and hotfixes and Zenimax still can't seem to get the basics of key input working reliably.

I hadn't had this issue for a while so I'll get an eye out in case it was something else (I was trying to activate Shadowy Disguise which is pretty buggy itself).

Things have seemed particularly bad it group situations when things get busy but that's no excuse; this is pretty fundamental stuff if this bug is back.

For the first time I've had this problem--losing the ability to use any skills whatsoever. I'm not on WiFi or a wireless keyboard.

Lylith

i used to encounter this bug a LOT on my nb. there was quite a bit of 'hit-this-key-hope-it-works.' oddly enough, it was nearly always in boss battles.

i wish it was gone, but i've encountered it a time or three with secondary, too. (sorc)

gaming rig is all hardwired, fwiw.

Varicite

I have never encountered this bug until this latest patch (been playing since early access), but it's happening to me quite frequently.

It usually occurs when zoning into a new place; I cannot activate any skills or unsheathe my weapons. I'm not on wi-fi, and everything is hard-wired to my comp. All of the UI menus and functions still work, just no skills or unsheathing.

Workaround thus far has been to reload ui, but it's getting pretty tiresome zoning in, running into a big pack of mobs, and then realizing.. yeah.. my weapons are stuck at my sides and I can't even use any skills.

Instant repair bill... : c

GoatKnuckle

Varicite wrote: »

I have never encountered this bug until this latest patch (been playing since early access), but it's happening to me quite frequently.

It usually occurs when zoning into a new place; I cannot activate any skills or unsheathe my weapons. I'm not on wi-fi, and everything is hard-wired to my comp. All of the UI menus and functions still work, just no skills or unsheathing.

Workaround thus far has been to reload ui, but it's getting pretty tiresome zoning in, running into a big pack of mobs, and then realizing.. yeah.. my weapons are stuck at my sides and I can't even use any skills.

Instant repair bill... : c

I've had the issue as well, but not just after this patch. But it happens so infrequently it really hasn't been too much of a bother, but when it happens ... yeah a PITA. I've found that switching weapons usually fixes it for me, or ./reloadui will work. However, not a lot of help in the heat of battle.

GrimMauKin

I'm wired all the way, Ethernet, mouse and keyboard. I used to get this issue a lot and then it quietened down but it does seem to be making a reappearance (as if my Nightblade wasn't struggling enough as it is!).

Elvent

I reported this many times during the beta...not surprised it's still not fixed. Also no to wireless. I prefer wired rather than wireless.

Stratti

The only way to get something fixed is to not mention in the forum and hope they find.

This is because if the community complains about a bug , mechanic or design issue they do nothing. They bleed subs but still do nothing

NadiusMaximus

I found that when I couldn't use abilities, it was because in inadvertently hit the shift key on accident. Once I hit the key again everything worked perfectly.

GrimMauKin

There's always the off chance that I hit something like the shift key but I'm pretty sure that this bug's resurfaced.

There are so many bugs (some pretty fundamental), not least all the hassle with Nightblades at the moment that I'm pretty sure that Zeni have lost track of what's broken and what's not. So much new content and new layers of bugs have been piled on the old that I'm not sure they know how to fix what they do know is broken.

seneferab16_ESO

I am not on anything wireless, and I have bound all my abilityes to my mouse, so there's no way I could have accidentally hit shift.

Sometimes weapon swap is really unreliable as well. It's not quite as bad as it was before when I didn't dare to swap weapons mid fight, but I can't quite count on it.
I experience both of these issues in PvE a little bit more than PvP though, which is odd since I am used to issues being the other way around.

I had these issues months ago, but never lately. I had few after the patch, but they seem to increase in frequency; from one-two/day to a couple of times/hour.

Edit:
When it gets bad I /reloadui or relog, and it gets much better.

bellanca6561n

Wireless or wired is pretty much a non-issue. Many places such as much of Europe have no such thing as wires for Internet and most of Europe has better, faster and far more reliable Internet than a country as vast and diverse in its infrastructure as the United States. Most Germans, for example, have never experienced a power failure in their lives.

No. This is something else involving the keyboard buffer and skill permissions from the host. As Raph Koster, the original lead designer of Ultima Online put it long ago, "The client is in the hands of the enemy." It isn't a matter of Reaganesque trust but verify. You simply cannot trust that the client is telling you the truth. And you all can see where that could lead to delays and glitches.

Thus all online games have become the dance of a thousand handshakes. Your client saying you hit something, the host agreeing or disagreeing with you. It's all in the manner of sanity checking employed.

That's one part. Balancing that with customer connection reality.

But this feels like more like an overloaded buffer either taking a break or losing its mind. This is why hitting a menu of any sort - many of us just hit C two times fast - seems to clear it in many cases.

That's how I live with it now. Well....that and I always file a "You just killed me....again," bug report each time.

Also there's the matter of the queue. I'm not smooth. I'm mashing keys. I'm not waiting for one skill to finish executing before hitting the next. I am filling the queue with commands, yet I get upset when I hit a key and that particular command I wish to use does not go to the head of the line and fire RIGHT NOW.

So the queue has to be smart and prioritize. Q, for example, should always flush the buffer and execute immediately.

It will take more time I expect to improve and it will never be perfect. This is their first online game. They already put more onto the client than most any other online game out there today, even venerable old Ultima Online.

Rune_Relic

I used to get this now and again pre 1.4...shield charge being the worst if you want on the same level.
1.4 has made this input lag much more noticeable...and this is the main link between you and the game....so is priority number 2 after crashing.
Last night was a little better...but not fixed

killedbyping

GoatKnuckle wrote: »

KhajitFurTrader wrote: »

I have one question for you: are you on WiFi?

Follow up question ... are you using a wireless keyboard?

What this have to do with this key pressing problems ?
I never saw such frustrating bugs in any other MMO before and i do use both WiFi and Wireless Mouse and Keyboard.