Group Dungeon difficulty

antmck2011rwb17_ESO

I'm finding the group dungeons Tempest Island and Selene's Web are too hard to do solo - even at VR11. Am I missing something? Just can't get passed Longclaw in Selene's Web or the 1st stormcaller in Tempest Island. I thought at my level these dungeons would be easy to do. Can't find anyone who wants to help either. When I say normal level they leave or I just get - it's really easy to solo.

AreoHotah

Group dungeons are designed to GROUPS. Keep trying in the zone chat to build up a group of atleast 2 of you. Good luck.

HELL if you are on Eu add me il gladly help

@AreoHotah‌

antmck2011rwb17_ESO

I'm on the North American server as I'm in Australia (we don't get a server to call our own) . I want to do all the group dungeons on normal level 1st then on vet level. So hard finding anyone these days. It's like whole zones are empty. Molag Bal has a lot to answer for.

ers101284b14_ESO

Zones are not empty. I see people everywhere. The problem is they all want to solo everything and not group making it hard to do group content. Guilds are the best way to get groups.

KenjiJU

I'll 2 man the normal dungeons with you. I need all the third-fifth zone of each faction.

Sirropo

Group up with the lowbies, they'd generally be glad to have a higher level "swoosh" them thru the dungeon ...and an observation, those low-level mobs will whittle your health down fast if you are not careful, and I am referring to level 20 dungeon mobs.

firstdecan

I've soloed quite a number of the regular group dungeons with a VR toon, and yes, some of them can be hard. The trash mobs are usually not an issue, but some of the boss mobs can be a pain. Any "boss" with a lot of adds, that is actually multiple bosses, or that has the capability to stun you will be difficult. Those encounters are designed for the tank \ healer \ dps paradigm, and it's difficult to be all three at once as a single person.

As @Sirropo suggested, just group with some of the "lowbies." A couple of meat shields will take some of the pressure off of you, and they get a cake walk though the dungeon.

antmck2011rwb17_ESO

How on earth do I find a "lowbie" in this vet zone?
Just tried asking for help again and just got - "Why would you want to play normal?" Because I do OK. Noone online - asked my guild for help - nothing. Noone wants group dungeons on normal anymore. So I guess these last 2 will never be done

starkerealm

Just travel back to the corresponding zone for that dungeon. Like, if you're Pact and wanting to do Wayrest Sewers go to Deshan. If you're wanting to do City of Ash try Eastmarch. Remember, once you've finished a dungeon on normal, the other two dungeons at that level pop on your map, and you can travel to them, even as a non-vet. You can't exit and wander around that zone, but you'll see people doing all three normal dungeons in any of the non-vet zones.

shadowz081

What class and build are you using?

antmck2011rwb17_ESO

DragonKnight, medium armour, 2H sword. Concentrated on stamina.

shadowz081

Well than you need a healer cause you would be using the Stam to DPS instead of surviving(blocking, roll dodging,etc) and if you use it to survive than you won't be doing enough dps. And since you are mainly concentrated on stam, you won't have enough magicka to continue spamming your class survival skills.

Cause contray to popular beliefs, the dungeons you listed still offer a fair amount of challenge to pure magicka v12 builds if they are soloing and mobs can still kill you if you are not careful.

Edit: typos

antmck2011rwb17_ESO

I thought on "normal" level these vet zoned dungeons would be pretty simple - guess not. Explains why I have trouble with some bosses and need help. A lot of people must thing there very easy and wonder why I need help - judging by the chat comments I get.

Curragraigue

OP which Alliance did you start in?

I'm on the NA server in Australia and I have a toon in the VR version of AD atm. I don't mind doing normal versions of the group dungeons in VR AD if you want to do them and need someone to run through with you. I'm a Temp as well so I can do heals for you which is what it sounds like you could use.

I started in DC though so if you started in EP I'm afraid I'm not there yet with any of my other toons unfortunately. Good luck.

antmck2011rwb17_ESO

I am surprised by the offers of help. I usually get deafening silence - in chat anyway.

For the record I'm a Pact Argonian

Curragraigue

antmck2011rwb17_ESO wrote: »

I am surprised by the offers of help. I usually get deafening silence - in chat anyway.

For the record I'm a Pact Argonian

Sorry to hear that my enemy

Have an EP toon but he is a long way off making the second VR zone.

starkerealm

Curragraigue wrote: »

antmck2011rwb17_ESO wrote: »

I am surprised by the offers of help. I usually get deafening silence - in chat anyway.

For the record I'm a Pact Argonian

Sorry to hear that my enemy

Have an EP toon but he is a long way off making the second VR zone.

Again, for non-vet runs, you don't need to be in that zone. If you're pact, and you've finished Fungal Grotto, you get instant access to Banished Cells and Spindlecluch, from the wayshrine fast travel network.

You can also group up and travel to member to get into those at basically any level. If you want poke around in Stonefalls, Deshan, Shadowfen, Eastmarch and The Rift to carry a low level team with you through the Covenant and Dominion dungeons.

The one that's legitimately hard to get a team for, in my experience is Vaults of Madness. But I've seen people asking in zone in The Rift for that.

Merlin13KAGL

antmck2011rwb17_ESO wrote: »

I'm finding the group dungeons Tempest Island and Selene's Web are too hard to do solo - even at VR11. Am I missing something? Just can't get passed Longclaw in Selene's Web or the 1st stormcaller in Tempest Island. I thought at my level these dungeons would be easy to do. Can't find anyone who wants to help either. When I say normal level they leave or I just get - it's really easy to solo.

@antmck2011rwb17_ESO‌ , why would you expect a Level 61 to beat a Level 200 (what you get when you have 5 x L40's beating on you at once...)

You've save the world, you are indeed mean...but you're not invincible.

The addition of once extra person (healer, preferred) can make a world of difference.

I always tell new people (new to group dungeons, at least) (not saying this is you) to consider the total level requirement of a dungeon.

Zone 1 GD's are looking for total combined level of 40-50, and it goes up from there.

If your total combined is less that half that (guaranteed when soloing), expect to have to work for it, if not get your butt handed to you.

Also, bear in mind, those bosses would normally have 4 potential targets...now they have but 1.

We've seen Vet deaths in Sewers before, too. Not sure the "Normal" scaling always takes place, even though that's what your group setting may say. That may have something to do with it as well.

And your answer to "Why would you want to play normal?" is "Because I never got around to completing it before - do you want to run the dungeon or not?"

Dagoth_Rac

If you are Pact, go to Eastmarch and look for other players for Tempest Island in zone chat. Eastmarch will be full of level appropriate players for normal Tempest Island. Then, go to The Rift and look for other players for Selene's Web in zone chat. The Rift will be full of level appropriate players for normal Selene's Web.

In Vet zones, just about everybody has already done the normal dungeons and since you will get no loot or XP/VP for killing those lower level mobs, there is little incentive for a VR player to run it again.

Go to the non-vet zones, though, and there will be lots of players who have not done them and want to get the XP and loot. It may seem lame to us, but a purple Level 37 sword might be the best thing ever to a new player! They would be thrilled to have a VR player along. But I would recommend tanking or healing as a VR in a normal dungeon. For the lower level players, it could take a lot of the fun out of the dungeon if a VR player is dps'ing 90% of the enemies into the ground in a few seconds.

starkerealm

Merlin13KAGL wrote: »

And your answer to "Why would you want to play normal?" is "Because I never got around to completing it before - do you want to run the dungeon or not?"

Slight typo there, I think you meant to say, "do you want to feel like an absolute badass or not?"

Soloing those low tier dungeons, or two manning them is stupidly fun. Getting people together for a run is a blast too, but, hey. Who doesn't want to smear some completely outclassed enemies across the walls once in awhile.

antmck2011rwb17_ESO

starkerealm wrote: »

Merlin13KAGL wrote: »

And your answer to "Why would you want to play normal?" is "Because I never got around to completing it before - do you want to run the dungeon or not?"

Slight typo there, I think you meant to say, "do you want to feel like an absolute badass or not?"

Soloing those low tier dungeons, or two manning them is stupidly fun. Getting people together for a run is a blast too, but, hey. Who doesn't want to smear some completely outclassed enemies across the walls once in awhile.

Never thought of that. Nothing like a bit of overkill.

AlnilamE

If you are unsuccessful getting someone in the EP zone chats, send me a message in game. I have a friend who loves running around the dungeons and his main is a V7 now. Between the two of you you should be able to do it. I'd also be happy to join you (or two-man depending on time/availability).

But you should have no problem finding a group if you are in the proper EP zone.

Merlin13KAGL

antmck2011rwb17_ESO wrote: »

starkerealm wrote: »

Merlin13KAGL wrote: »

And your answer to "Why would you want to play normal?" is "Because I never got around to completing it before - do you want to run the dungeon or not?"

Slight typo there, I think you meant to say, "do you want to feel like an absolute badass or not?"

Soloing those low tier dungeons, or two manning them is stupidly fun. Getting people together for a run is a blast too, but, hey. Who doesn't want to smear some completely outclassed enemies across the walls once in awhile.

Never thought of that. Nothing like a bit of overkill.

True...so long as you're letting the lower levels get some hits in for kill credit.

Went to do Normal BC the other day with two other vets, simply becuase one had not ever gotten around to it. Found myself holding back, trying to allow the other Vet kill credit on the trash mobs when the epiphany hit me.

If they do want to work at it, I'll normally offer heal only or just tank and let them beat on things. As long as the lower level members are getting what they need out of it, it's a win-win.

(On that note, my VR6 still hasn't gotten around to Vaults of Madness - which is just upsetting, considering the beautiful scale of the map there)

Dagoth_Rac

Merlin13KAGL wrote: »

(On that note, my VR6 still hasn't gotten around to Vaults of Madness - which is just upsetting, considering the beautiful scale of the map there)

Merlin, your name sounds familiar. I think we are in a Guild together (Legacy of Doom?, Order of the Griffin?). Hit me up if you want to do Vaults of Madness. I have done it already, but I love that dungeon and I am also VR6. We might still get loot, too. Seems like all VR players are treated as Level 50 for the no-loot-if-mobs-are-5-levels-below-you rule.

Merlin13KAGL

Dagoth_Rac wrote: »

Merlin13KAGL wrote: »

(On that note, my VR6 still hasn't gotten around to Vaults of Madness - which is just upsetting, considering the beautiful scale of the map there)

Merlin, your name sounds familiar. I think we are in a Guild together (Legacy of Doom?, Order of the Griffin?). Hit me up if you want to do Vaults of Madness. I have done it already, but I love that dungeon and I am also VR6. We might still get loot, too. Seems like all VR players are treated as Level 50 for the no-loot-if-mobs-are-5-levels-below-you rule.

I shall see you seen, fellow Griffon!

heavy_artillery

Can't tell you how many times I've asked in /zone for someone to group with me for lower level Group Dungeons while standing at the entrance, only to see folks solo'ing content. Stop being anti-social!

That said, I've also had some pick-up groups form as I was trying (vainly) to solo some of the same, but I always ask for groups before plowing in alone