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Wild Speculation on Console Release delay
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I read an article on the coming release of DirectX12 today. It's going to be a major overhaul of the direct x API for Microsoft with significant improvements, but supposedly it would allow for greater integration between PC and consoles. The thought popped into my head - If Zeni is future-oriented, it would be a smart move to implement DX12 as part of its coding regimen for both PC and consoles. I guess there already is a DX 12 title on XBox, Forza 5, a racing game.
Anyway, just some speculative thoughts to pass a chilly Sunday afternoon.
Anyway, just some speculative thoughts to pass a chilly Sunday afternoon.
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Nocturnalis✭✭✭I would say it is more that ESO had such an initial rough go of it that possibly Sony and MS told ZOS that the game wasn't ready for prime time on their systems. If that didn't happen I would hope that ZOS saw that they released too early on PC, and don't want a repeat of those horrible, horrible unmentionable things on consoles.
It would more be a chance to redeem themselves in the eyes and wallets of the gamers by taking their time to address ESO's shortcomings. I would imagine there will be separate console reviews done by the gaming journals - might as well take a chance at getting better than average scores the next go around.
A major thing, it seems is the VR system. It is a large roadblock for many players (and I think it will be even more for console players). Getting the new champion system implemented will ease player churn -- I don't think console players will be as receptive to something that is considered "grindy". Not to mention being able to ship the console version with the justice system and thieves guild right away.
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Caroloces✭✭✭✭Supposedly the more direct x evolved, the farther away from the hardware management it got, which is, for all intents and purposes, the reason for its existence with regard to cross-platform management of graphics and audio. Direct x 12 is a return to more robust interaction with hardware resources and Nvidia has been working with MS for 4 years to integrate it into their products.
All that you've said, Nocturnalis, is true, but I would venture to guess that different teams are responsible for coding content and coding graphics and audio. For a comprehensive and efficient cross platform game, direct x 12 is probably the way to go as far as graphics and audio is concerned. And I don't think there's anyone that would argue that the graphics and audio of ESO are subpar. -
butterfly442✭✭✭I read an article on the coming release of DirectX12 today. It's going to be a major overhaul of the direct x API for Microsoft with significant improvements, but supposedly it would allow for greater integration between PC and consoles. The thought popped into my head - If Zeni is future-oriented, it would be a smart move to implement DX12 as part of its coding regimen for both PC and consoles. I guess there already is a DX 12 title on XBox, Forza 5, a racing game.
Anyway, just some speculative thoughts to pass a chilly Sunday afternoon.
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✭butterfly442 wrote: »You STILL think they are going to release consoles? How horribly misguided and trusting you must be.
Because they can continue with just a PC population?
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✭butterfly442 wrote: »
You STILL think they are going to release consoles? How horribly misguided and trusting you must be.
Yes, they've built the interface with console in mind, have been working on it for years, promised it repeatedly, but now they're just going to wave their hands and not do it, because of... ?
What?
Your "feeling"?
The delay? As if that wasn't predictable, as they were releasing on 3 platforms at once. Considering the difficulties connecting to XBox and PS networks, and the problems they had with the PC version early on, I'd be surprised if the console versions WEREN'T delayed.
Oh, I know--you made that smug comment because you think the current game has balance issues, or some other pet limited game-issue of yours that somehow lets you extrapolate the company's entire platform strategy!
No, no, no--I know--one of your guilds has less members!!! So now, you, mr. random internet guy, you've become privy to all the backroom meetings!
Look forward to you not remembering this silly, unfounded comment in 2015 when the console versions are out.
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✭✭First DX12 is targetting holdiay 2015 games.
Secondly, it's not easy to rewrite an engine for a different DX version. Skyrim released on DX9 (and still plays that way) despite DX11 having been out for a full two years before Skyrim's release. -
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✭daneyulebub17_ESO wrote: »butterfly442 wrote: »
You STILL think they are going to release consoles? How horribly misguided and trusting you must be.
Yes, they've built the interface with console in mind, have been working on it for years, promised it repeatedly, but now they're just going to wave their hands and not do it, because of... ?
What?
Your "feeling"?
Not the first time that very same thing has happened, I can think of two MMOs that did the same and then never made it to consoles, just off the top of my head.
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✭CapuchinSeven wrote: »daneyulebub17_ESO wrote: »butterfly442 wrote: »
You STILL think they are going to release consoles? How horribly misguided and trusting you must be.
Yes, they've built the interface with console in mind, have been working on it for years, promised it repeatedly, but now they're just going to wave their hands and not do it, because of... ?
What?
Your "feeling"?
Not the first time that very same thing has happened, I can think of two MMOs that did the same and then never made it to consoles, just off the top of my head.
"Did the same?"
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I feel they are going to wait until some of the upcoming features are ready before they release it on console.
IE:
1: Champion System and other Veteran changes.
2: Justice System
3: Imperial City
4: Spell Crafting
IMO those 4 will be major improvements to ESO and it greatly increase the appeal of the game. ZoS has hopefully learned from the PC release what drove most of the players away, and wants the console release to have those weak points fixed (IE: Vet Content and buggy gameplay).
I expect the console release will be drastically different from the PC release and it feels like the PC players have been beta testing for the console release. I tell most of my friends who were interested in trying ESO to hold off until the console is released as I know they would not like the current ESO, but would love the future ESO. (if ZoS delivers on their promises that is)
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butterfly442✭✭✭daneyulebub17_ESO wrote: »butterfly442 wrote: »
Considering the difficulties connecting to XBox and PS networks
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