Free 2 Play games are garbage

Cladius30

I keep hearing this game has a chance to go f2p but I hope not. That means less quality of work done to keep the game going and no standard of quality to anything.
Every f2p game I have tried has been a pile of garbage.

naturn

The day it becomes free to play is the day I stop playing it.

ExiledKhallisi

Will quit if F2p

ers101284b14_ESO

Get on Steam. Try 50 F2P games. Come back and let us know what you learned.

Cladius30

i have tried them they suck

david271749

ers101284b14_ESO wrote: »

Get on Steam. Try 50 F2P games. Come back and let us know what you learned.

Team fortress 2 is awesome.

Cladius30 wrote: »

I keep hearing this game has a chance to go f2p but I hope not.

Where?

Cladius30

team fortress 2 could only be a f2p game because there is nothing to it

david271749

Cladius30 wrote: »

team fortress 2 could only be a f2p game because there is nothing to it

Alright. Opinions. So, where do you keep hearing this game "has a chance" of going f2p?

Cladius30

someone just did a post about an interview and it was brought up in this, I don't have the reference sorry

ers101284b14_ESO

Cladius30 wrote: »

someone just did a post about an interview and it was brought up in this, I don't have the reference sorry

People keep saying its going F2P and that it sucks so bad its going to have to to save the game. But in every interview where the Devs where asked if it was going F2P they all said that they developed it for a sub based model and that's all.

Ragefist

Cladius30 wrote: »

I keep hearing this game has a chance to go f2p but I hope not. That means less quality of work done to keep the game going and no standard of quality to anything.
Every f2p game I have tried has been a pile of garbage.

We know

Its just a couple of vocal haters that keep promoting that nonsense

Soulshine

Why are people so alarmist? Yeesh. Defining quality of a f2p game is subjective - people are looking for different things and what appeals to some players will be total crud for others.

For me, the best f2p game I have played - and still do now and then - is Rift, but I know lots of ppl think its crud.

A game I used to play for years went free to play and it went straight to the toilet, especially the community.

SO you just never know. As for this game, there have repeated many times they are keeping the sub model. If the sub does drop, I will still play ESO until I see the results of the change - most especially on the in game community, cause the one here on these forums is not really reflective of the ppl I have met in game.

KenjiJU

In general, I agree. There are a few exceptions, but still, the f2p model can force someone to quit out of spite. (srsly, go suck on some skooma, ferghus)

I also just hate seeing ads and store buttons.

eNumbra

Warthunder and World of Tanks, despite their issues are both fine F2P games.

Shaun98ca2

Soulshine wrote: »

A game I used to play for years went free to play and it went straight to the toilet, especially the community.

Rift is a game I miss a LOT sometimes. It like TESO was never meant to be F2P but I believe the developers of that game did an amazing job transitioning to the F2P without making it P2W.

DDuke

I wish people would stop defending F2P games...

Someone will always end up paying for the freeloaders, and more often than not, that someone is the person who really cares about the game and wants full access to the game's contents.

Needless to say, that full access costs you way more than a subscription ever will.

If you are fine with the fact that you'll be basicly paying for all the toxic cheap people, or you plan on being one yourself, then F2P is a good option.

Soulshine

Shaun98ca2 wrote: »

Soulshine wrote: »

A game I used to play for years went free to play and it went straight to the toilet, especially the community.

Rift is a game I miss a LOT sometimes. It like TESO was never meant to be F2P but I believe the developers of that game did an amazing job transitioning to the F2P without making it P2W.

I still pay it and that is why I cited Rift as a game that is successful in my book as f2p; when I said the above which you quoted, I was referring to another game - not Rift.

Greatfellow

Excuse my ignorance, but how do f2p games support themselves?

david271749

Greatfellow wrote: »

Excuse my ignorance, but how do f2p games support themselves?

Usually by selling things you could get in game for real money, like a horse. Some sell things only available throgh cash shops, like pets or playable races...hmmm.

Greatfellow

david271749 wrote: »

Greatfellow wrote: »

Excuse my ignorance, but how do f2p games support themselves?

Usually by selling things you could get in game for real money, like a horse. Some sell things only available throgh cash shops, like pets or playable races...hmmm.

Oh. Hmmm. And I saw someone talk about advertising? Do they have advertising in the games? Thanks.

david271749

Greatfellow wrote: »

david271749 wrote: »

Greatfellow wrote: »

Excuse my ignorance, but how do f2p games support themselves?

Usually by selling things you could get in game for real money, like a horse. Some sell things only available throgh cash shops, like pets or playable races...hmmm.

Oh. Hmmm. And I saw someone talk about advertising? Do they have advertising in the games? Thanks.

@Greatfellow
Some do. Some don't. More successful f2p games just advertise their cash shops, while the really desperate ones will go as far as advertising other games.

Zhoyzu

Warframe is F2P and its pretty *** amazing. but of course this is an opinion just like yours which means that it is subjective and holds little merit outside of the opinionee

Greatfellow

Zhoyzu wrote: »

Warframe is F2P and its pretty *** amazing. but of course this is an opinion just like yours which means that it is subjective and holds little merit outside of the opinionee

I like your comment, especially your word "opinionee". That said, I would think if "opinionee" was a real word its definition would be " the person who receives an opinion, or to whom an opinion is directed."

Yeah, I think in your sentence above if you substitued "opiner" for "opinionee" you'd be spot on.

But I don't care. It was all fun for me. I'm a policy analyst who also gets paid to write and edit a lot, so I love running into words like "opinionee". Thanks!

firstdecan

The game could easily go F2P. They could charge for mounts, hirelings, newer motifs, dyes, respecs, appearance changes, or a host of other things.

Having said that, I hope it doesn't. I think the sub model will make a better game in the long run.

Zhoyzu

Greatfellow wrote: »

Zhoyzu wrote: »

Warframe is F2P and its pretty *** amazing. but of course this is an opinion just like yours which means that it is subjective and holds little merit outside of the opinionee

I like your comment, especially your word "opinionee". That said, I would think if "opinionee" was a real word its definition would be " the person who receives an opinion, or to whom an opinion is directed."

Yeah, I think in your sentence above if you substitued "opiner" for "opinionee" you'd be spot on.

But I don't care. It was all fun for me. I'm a policy analyst who also gets paid to write and edit a lot, so I love running into words like "opinionee". Thanks!

NO PROBLEMO!

seemed fitting and im all of caring for today. my week was long enough!

sagitter

firstdecan wrote: »

The game could easily go F2P. They could charge for mounts, hirelings, newer motifs, dyes, respecs, appearance changes, or a host of other things.

Having said that, I hope it doesn't. I think the sub model will make a better game in the long run.

yeaah . with that you'll sure have the money to pay 2 megaserver and 300 employees that works for new contents and fixing bugs right? sub model it's always the best option, if you hope for new contents and work.

Greatfellow

sagitter wrote: »

firstdecan wrote: »

The game could easily go F2P. They could charge for mounts, hirelings, newer motifs, dyes, respecs, appearance changes, or a host of other things.

Having said that, I hope it doesn't. I think the sub model will make a better game in the long run.

yeaah . with that you'll sure have the money to pay 2 megaserver and 300 employees that works for new contents and fixing bugs right? sub model it's always the best option, if you hope for new contents and work.

This seems sensible to me, although I don't have experience with f2p games. Just seems like it would be hard to keep a sophisticated game going without subscription fees.

kieso

GW2 Is really cool and has a lot of things I wish ESO had.

Sleep

free to play = free to login, pay to play, pay a lot to have fun, never win.

JKorr

Cladius30 wrote: »

someone just did a post about an interview and it was brought up in this, I don't have the reference sorry

When someone posts about stuff like that, check the date. That interview was three months old. Someone necro'ed the thread.

People have been saying the game was going to be free to play since before the game was even released. Its nothing new. My favorite post on the old forum, when it was on Bethesda's site, was a long, detailed almost rant on why the game was definitely going to be buy to play because GW2 was the greatest invention in the history of everything and ESO would fail miserably and instantly if it wasn't. People posted links to the dev interviews that just came out that said the game was going to be subscription only. Long, detailed almost rant poster about had a melt-down. So did a few others who "knew" the game was going to be free to play.

Kypho

This is not f2p game, but zos turning it into garbage.....