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@ZOS, We need some communication, even just a little.

  • Maverick827
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    Brandalf wrote: »
    Brandalf wrote: »
    Brandalf wrote: »
    Brandalf wrote: »
    Put yourself in their shoes, which part of the community would you rather interact with?
    I would do my job.

    They are doing their job, the game's community is not limited to these forums.
    But it includes them.

    So they've never posted here? Or are you just upset they don't respond to every single question posed to them or the devs on these forums? Many of which have already been answered in the past through official channels.
    They post here disproportionately less and actively ignore pressing topics on all channels. I don't care if I have to read it on someone's personal Facebook page; I'm still waiting on a discussion about the VR level increase. I want them to say "we are definitely going to implement it even though most of you don't like the veteran system and will will definitely not be providing any sort of compensation for wasted crafting materials."

    Still beating that dead horse? Honestly? You're not going to be "compensated" for your "wasted" crafting mats, nor should you be. Perfect example of the entitlement issues on these forums.

    Besides it's been what, two days since we learned about them adding new vet levels? It's not hard to figure out why they are doing it and maybe they didn't expect to have to spell everything out for people without using big words. Then again maybe that is a mistake on their part.
    Keep up those personal attacks that won't get moderated.
  • Maverick827
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    Brandalf wrote: »
    Brandalf wrote: »
    Brandalf wrote: »
    Brandalf wrote: »
    Brandalf wrote: »
    Put yourself in their shoes, which part of the community would you rather interact with?
    I would do my job.

    They are doing their job, the game's community is not limited to these forums.
    But it includes them.

    So they've never posted here? Or are you just upset they don't respond to every single question posed to them or the devs on these forums? Many of which have already been answered in the past through official channels.
    They post here disproportionately less and actively ignore pressing topics on all channels. I don't care if I have to read it on someone's personal Facebook page; I'm still waiting on a discussion about the VR level increase. I want them to say "we are definitely going to implement it even though most of you don't like the veteran system and will will definitely not be providing any sort of compensation for wasted crafting materials."

    Still beating that dead horse? Honestly? You're not going to be "compensated" for your "wasted" crafting mats, nor should you be. Perfect example of the entitlement issues on these forums.

    Besides it's been what, two days since we learned about them adding new vet levels? It's not hard to figure out why they are doing it and maybe they didn't expect to have to spell everything out for people without using big words. Then again maybe that is a mistake on their part.
    Keep up those personal attacks that won't get moderated.

    I call them like I see them, no way you could deny you have an entitlement issue with a straight face or without being delusional.
    I guess I'll have to start PMing mods directly or contact the help desk. Since I cannot say anything bad about you without getting suspended myself, I'll have to put you on ignore.
  • Nazon_Katts
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    Dubah wrote: »
    They won't listen. They'll never listen. They must experience for themselves what is about to come. So let it go, let them go. It's a pointless endeavor anyways. Relax, lean back and enjoy the show. And while you're at it, prepare a bucket of toldchasos.

    Lol, toldchasos? is that a typo or have i been away for that long?

    Also i would love to sit back and let it happen, however i really want to see this game grow, they got a good combat system, considering the fact that they refuse to either cap or get rid of damage reduction skills, other than that the game has a great base and needs to evolve into something even better. I would prefer to be involved into something better considering i have played MMO's for well over 14 years, i may not be a developer but do have some great ideas to fix the game and sadly can't get anyone to listen. @ZOS_PaulSage‌ did state that when they are the quietest thats when they are listening more, however it just doesn't feel like it, and leaving your paying customers in the dark is a bad business move no matter how you look at it.

    Yeah, it's the closest to Nachos I could come up with. Originally, I tried finding something close to popcorn, but that didn't really work out.

    Anyways, these boards serve no purpose other than socializing and venting. They never did anything more, never were used for anything more. Yes, they do read posts, even take special notice of well-thought out posts, but that's it. /feedback in game does the same, tho.

    So have fun, socialize and vent. But don't expect more. There just isn't. And it'll continue to backfire. Rest assured, no one cares. As I learned from this thread, we apparently build up a pretty infamous reputation already. Luckily, people know how to differentiate, now don't they.
    "You've probably figured that out by now. Let's hope so. Or we're in real trouble... and out come the intestines. And I skip rope with them!"
  • Dubah
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    Dubah wrote: »
    They won't listen. They'll never listen. They must experience for themselves what is about to come. So let it go, let them go. It's a pointless endeavor anyways. Relax, lean back and enjoy the show. And while you're at it, prepare a bucket of toldchasos.

    Lol, toldchasos? is that a typo or have i been away for that long?

    Also i would love to sit back and let it happen, however i really want to see this game grow, they got a good combat system, considering the fact that they refuse to either cap or get rid of damage reduction skills, other than that the game has a great base and needs to evolve into something even better. I would prefer to be involved into something better considering i have played MMO's for well over 14 years, i may not be a developer but do have some great ideas to fix the game and sadly can't get anyone to listen. @ZOS_PaulSage‌ did state that when they are the quietest thats when they are listening more, however it just doesn't feel like it, and leaving your paying customers in the dark is a bad business move no matter how you look at it.

    Yeah, it's the closest to Nachos I could come up with. Originally, I tried finding something close to popcorn, but that didn't really work out.

    Anyways, these boards serve no purpose other than socializing and venting. They never did anything more, never were used for anything more. Yes, they do read posts, even take special notice of well-thought out posts, but that's it. /feedback in game does the same, tho.

    So have fun, socialize and vent. But don't expect more. There just isn't. And it'll continue to backfire. Rest assured, no one cares. As I learned from this thread, we apparently build up a pretty infamous reputation already. Luckily, people know how to differentiate, now don't they.

    @Nazon_Katts‌ Lol, thats pretty funny... I may have to steal that

    Really, my problem is not just the forums, like i said i used one highlight and didn't mean for it to be focused as just a problem here on the forums, and personally yes i do feel like i am entitled to have more information on something i am paying for, do any of you people really think an investor is going to give money to someone without information? Heck no! And that is basically what you are doing when paying the $15 a month, investing in their future, and when they look one day and realise that they lost alot of those investors they are going to wonder why. Here is the reason right here, laid in front of everyones eyes. I myself am pretty reasonable, and will keep paying the sub because lets face it, the game is still new. WoW, EQ1/EQ2, Rift, and any other MMO you can think of was never successful during the start and all had ideas on where they wanted to go, but it takes time. This game is in no way polished and i hope that ZOS doesn't believe it is, which it doesn't sound like. So to sum it all up, do i feel entitled? YES! Does it mean they have to give me that entitlement? No, will i quit because of it? Maybe, but not at this point. Really all i want is a little information, i want to be treated like a fish, dangle a worm on a hook in front of me and i will keep trying to get it. Simplicity is the key to success,
  • Nazon_Katts
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    Oh, I know. I'm just trying to save your time, since the ones you're trying to reach won't care. Even worse, you'll attract individuals who think building a better community is done by silencing those of opposing opinion and pruning of anyone who doesn't think alike.
    "You've probably figured that out by now. Let's hope so. Or we're in real trouble... and out come the intestines. And I skip rope with them!"
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