Templar/healer help

spinedoc

My Templar is VR2 now, I've only healed non VR dungeons which seemed fairly easy, although I've healed some VR dungeons with my VR6 sorc. Anyhow I'd like to fine tune my healing and was hoping for some advice. Some of the questions may seem noobish for a VR2, but I didn't feel much need for anything other than a couple of basic healing spells until now so I was kind of lazy.

Restoration Staff questions:

I've basically used resto staff to heal 99% of the time. I do have breath of life slotted for oh $h moments and do use it fairly often, I also use cleansing ritual as part of my rotation but am not sure of its worth.

What is a basic healing rotation? My current rotation is to cast 2 or 3 Illustrious Healings letting them stack, and when I see players health move a bit I'll cast a Rapid Regeneration. That's my first question, does rapid regen stack? Is it worth casting it multiple times, or better to let the timer go down?

Blessing of protection: radius of 20x4, is this basically a rectangle in FRONT of the healer, or around the healer? Is this spell worth using? Seems like a spell to help the tank survive.

Restoring Light questions:

Force siphon, is this worth using at all?
Healing ritual, any use for this? I find it's cast time is MUCH too long and never use it anymore, not sure if some can shed some light on its proper use.
Restoring aura, seems ok but prob not worth wasting a slot for?
Cleansing Ritual: I cast it, but I really don't have much feedback if other players use the cures off of it, I mainly cast it because it's a bit more heals to add to the stack. Is this spell a must, and do you guys work it into the rotation constantly or only if you see detriments?

Misc. questions:
Sun Shield: It says area, does this mean ANYONE in the 5m radius will be protected? I'm wondering if it's a good spell to use near the tank when he is spiking.

How do you guys set up your bars? I have my resto staff bar with illustrious healing, rapid regen, cleansing ritual, blessing of protection and steadfast ward. Sometimes I swap in Circle of protection as the radius and the time it's up is nice.

Is blood altar any good?

My 2nd bar is a destro staff mainly to get DPS if I need it. My overall build has all points into health, I have 5 pieces warlock set and the rest light armor with +magicka. I try to focus on +magicka or reduce spell cost enchantments.

Also the final and most sensitive question, which I left for last because I knew it would cause some discussion. Is there a compelling reason to heal with a Templar versus a Sorc? My Templar does not feel like a stronger healer than my sorc, and at times feels weaker due to the magicka regen issue. Even with spike damage I feel my sorc can use resto staff to bring that person up pretty quickly. My sorc is VR6 and my Templar is VR2 and I suppose I'm trying to figure out which one to really focus on when I get to the end game grind. It's nice to heal and switch to dps with the sorc, where with the Templar I'll probably be stuck with healing all of the time.

OK for anyone brave enough to read through my wall of text, any thoughts?

Skafsgaard

Hi there,

I'll thow one right back at you

So Im guessing this is solely PvE healing, right? Since it makes a big difference of course.

Im no PvE expert, but have a few suggestions for you.

On to the skills.

It sounds like you're doing it right, almost. I would make a respec after reading some other replies and maybe watching a few vids but I really think you need to use the other morph for the resto skill lines first ability, healing springs which will get u magicka back pr target hit, especially as a templar.

Rapid regen (which imo is the right morph for a templar) does not stack, you should have it up all time so use an addon to keep track of it.

As for Honor the Dead or Breath of Life: if you feel you dont use it a lot and mostly a single target spell for the tank or a dps standing in fire, and you have magicka issues maybe honor the dead is the best morph for you. I like BoL since it hits more targets but during respec week used honor the dead for solo play (in pvp) and the magicka back is actually pretty sweet. I guess it also depends on whether you're aiming for trials, which I think BoL is best (many players around taking a lot of damage) maybe for 4-man dungeons honor the dead is better option for you?

The ground ritual should activated some passives in restoring light, however, it seems to be a little random atm, so it is bugged. If ppl dont use purify, which they really should, it is porbably a waste - but can be helpful to make the grp stand mroe or less where you want them to and for boss fights I think its useful with as many HoTs (heal over time) as possible, so yea I think you should use it and probably go for extended as PvE guy.

You should definately scrap the ward, it is not worth it esp as a templar with an oh *** (2 actually incl ur ultimate) button. A ward takes UNmitigated damage. It needs to go and will help with ur magicka issues.

For siphon I havent really experimented with it a lot, ive tried the insta cast one for PvP but wasnt really my thing Im guessing its probably not worth it, or maybe the one iirc that gives some magicka back.

Blessing of protection is nice, I think and im running the combat prayer which also gives affected members an 10% damage increase. The reasoning being the quicker the boss goes down the less magicka issues you have and with a good group you dont need the larger area. Its infront of you and has a rectangle, not cone and will always hit you as well.

The 2 second cast healing ritual can be used in anticipation of group spike damage and imo should be your bread and butter along with the first to resto skills, so basically healing springs, rapid regen and ritual for anticipated spike damage I chose the morph to 1.7 sec cast. Meanwhile you can renew your extended ritual and use combat prayer to buff the group and pop your ultimate if something goes fubar.

Another thing entirely, consider running mage light on both bars. +20% spell crit for healers is awesome, better heals and quicker ult gain (ult doesnt cost mag, so ult heals are 'free') and with around 50% spell crit you will build ult fast with all those different healing ticks that crits.

Ive also thought about taking the luminous spear (morph from spear shards) on a bar to grant grp members stamina+magicka back as synergy. Same reasoning as combat prayer, or you could throw power of the light into a rotation as well.

The nice thing with the templar is, he can do other great stuff than just heals so it enables a lot of out of the box thinking.

Good luck keeping that group up

Natjur

I used
Mutagen (Regeneration morph)
(keep casting this, have it on all members at all times)
Purifying Ritual (Cleansing Ritual morph)
(if all members are in one spot and not running around )
Breath of Life (Rushed Ceremony)
with the the right armor, you can cast this a lot
(warlock and seducer light armor set)

I add
Quick Siphon for bosses (or Healing Springs for raids)

The last slot is for Inner Light or Evil Hunter or Mystic Orb, depending on the group.

eliisra

You dont need like 5 different heals. There's only so much you can do with your magicka.

This is what I always use:
Healing Springs for AoE healing.
BoL for burst heals.
Luminous or Blazing Spear is a must. The tank needs the synergy for stamina, so he can keep blocking.
Mage's Light for more critical heals.
Spell Symmetry to regain my magicka.
Replenishing Barrier as Ultimate.

Rest is really situational and personal preference. I'm not always using Rapid Regeneration for example, since it's always someone else using it. But when solo healing 4-man dungeons I will slot it. Combat Prayer occasionally to boost dps.

I never use Siphon or Healing Ward.

Lingering Ritual is a great group heal, especially combined with Cleansing Ritual, proc'ing Focused Healing. But I rarely get to use that one either. People just aren't stacked enough. Those rare occasions where you actually have to stack tightly and outheal spike dmg, than Rite of Passage, the templar ulti, is the way to go.

traigusb14_ESO2

I use lingering ritual instead of mage light.

I'll plant it on the tank, and other people can move through ti for a top-off.


I'd rather have steady reliable heals than random crits I can't count on.

Skafsgaard

traigusb14_ESO2 wrote: »

I use lingering ritual instead of mage light.

I'll plant it on the tank, and other people can move through ti for a top-off.


I'd rather have steady reliable heals than random crits I can't count on.

Im not sure exactly what you mean here? But with inner light you can easily get around 50% spell crit without effort, ill hardly call that random as you have: extended ritual, rapid regen and healing springs all in some way HoTs that tick and ticks crit and crits give you ultimate. Unless ult isnt as important in pve as in pvp I think you might have something confused or im simply not up to speed with pve.

And how does lingering ritual top of others from the tank?

Thralgaf

Inner Light is a must, IMO. I noticed a huge difference in healing spring crust without it.

spinedoc

Wow thanks guys, I was wondering about magelight. I think I'm going to throw that into the slot I usually have a ward. I'm going to consider spear for those tank intensive fights for sure. Combat prayer sounds like it makes sense as well.

I'm still very unconvinced with Healing Ritual, 1.7 or 2 seconds is just an eternity. I don't see where spike damage can really be anticipated, but I suppose in a heavy fight there will always be constant damage so you guys are saying to put healing ritual into my cast rotation? It just seems that in that 2 seconds I can lay down 2-3 or more illustrious healings and get the groups hp up very quickly. Although of course magicka is the issue here, but I think I suck because I can't anticipate most spike damage. Most spike damage seems to come from a missed block, out of stamina tank, or dps that didn't avoid an AOE.

Illustrious healing versus healing springs, hmm... I've used healing springs before and I didn't "feel" as if I had more magicka in particular, but I didn't objectively measure this. Illustrious seemed nice because it's basically my bread and butter spell and it adds pretty much 25% healing to it, which is huge IMO. What do you guys think?

Also Rite of passage, which morph did you guys take? I'm leaning towards the increased time.

Thanks again guys, great feedback. If I didn't make it clear before this is mainly for PVE, I'm a raider at heart and would like to get to trials. I'm still a bit confused about my Sorc, really the only ability he doesn't have is BOL, cleansing light and the Rite ultimate, so basically 2 oh $h spells and 1 cure type spell in exchange for being able to spam many more heals.

Skafsgaard

Hi again,

Glad you can use the feedback. That spell could be the templar extended ritual? Its certainly big and yellow, if not im not sure what you.

About spike damage, i guess this is more related to trials, but im no expert here. Like if U know the boss will AoE the raid when he does this or that animation, as soon as u see him start u start casting that 1.7s ritual, he hits the raid and you then finish casting, much to how a priest would raid heal in WoW if u did that - hope it makes sense. Its good mana wise if ppl are close, in 4 mans i prolly wouldnt recommend it. Also it procs templar passives which IH or HS doesnt.

kitsinni

What I do is Rapid Regen before fights. If it wears off and you are don't have to heal throw it back up. If the fight is stationary dump illustrious healing, you can also stack it if you want. Breath of Life is my main heal I use it when people take big damage. The last slot is changed out depending on the fight and situation. If its a boss I use Siphon Spirit on the boss. If it is a group larger than four I use Lingering Ritual. If there are a lot of heavy effects I use Efficient Purge from the Alliance War line, but you could use Purifying Ritual if you don't have that. I have never had a PvE encounter that gave me a problem healing with that all the way to V12. Always use Resto heavy staff attacks when you don't need to heal for the Magicka. I find you usually have plenty of Magicka even when you need to spam a few Breath of Life in a row. ALWAYS have Inner Light on and I stack crit.

For PvP I switch out Illustrious Healing for Lingering Ritual and always have Efficient Purge on my bar.

kitsinni

I almost forgot the Healing Ultimate for emergency but that should be fairly obvious as a templar Healer.

traigusb14_ESO2

Skafsgaard wrote: »

traigusb14_ESO2 wrote: »

I use lingering ritual instead of mage light.

I'll plant it on the tank, and other people can move through ti for a top-off.


I'd rather have steady reliable heals than random crits I can't count on.

Im not sure exactly what you mean here? But with inner light you can easily get around 50% spell crit without effort, ill hardly call that random as you have: extended ritual, rapid regen and healing springs all in some way HoTs that tick and ticks crit and crits give you ultimate. Unless ult isnt as important in pve as in pvp I think you might have something confused or im simply not up to speed with pve.

And how does lingering ritual top of others from the tank?

Depends on your build.

Mage light is just mage light. My advice was mage light vs. extended ritual as just the spells themselves... had no gear involved at all in it. if you want to talk total builds that is something else. I was comparing just 2 spells.

Sorry, meant Extended ritual... can't ever keep all the names and morph names right in my head.. Ground cast AOE HoT... people can run through it and get heal ticks. I keep it up pretty much all the time. People can run through it as they are DPSing, and the tank can move around in it as needed. It takes a lot of the stress off of healing, having a group that knows templar heals and how to use them.

I use the temp healing ultimate when I'm healing. I very rarely need to use it, so building up lots of Ultimate fast is not really an issue. I prefer to keep it rerady, rather than use it all the time and then hope I have enough ulti to use it in a bad spot.

jrgray93

I have a build in my sig you can take a look at. I'm running something a bit different now but it's very effective.