Make This Game Playable on Linux

smeeprocketnub19_ESO

Dear ZOS,

I really want to get rid of Windows. It's awful, and I am tired of shelling out cash to Microsoft every few years when their best product was long ago (windows xp.)

I implore you, make ESO work with linux. I want to switch and running ESO through an emulator would probably be ridiculously laggy.

You already made it compatible with MAC, and no one actually uses that, at least not people that matter.

You promised us we could play how we want, and I want to play ESO on Linux.

Munku

And spend another few mil for a tiny user base? Not feasible

poodlemasterb16_ESO

It runs in wine I believe, yes winehq has it as gold.

I have run Linux since 1997 or so, it's the OS I use outside of games.

I need to use windows for games as I have 70+ on Steam so far. The only thing I do in windose is play games and because I boot into windose to play it's always fresh with no crap running.

I have actually hacked away on Linux drivers, once on Carmack's Linux Matrox driver effort, for Quake2 really, although it ran everything better than the windose drivers.

Win 7 works, I don't care much anymore, I am getting old.

BrassRazoo

Make it work yourself if you want to use a hobby kit.

theyancey

I switched a laptop over to Linux but have no plans to try to play ESO on it. In fact I think may make a Steam Machine out f it instead. I am quite happy with Windows on my main PC.

Srugzal

I ran it with wine during beta. So you should be able to at least try it out. There's a learning curve for wine, of course, but if you're using Linux you're used to doing that. Wine has made a lot of progress in recent years, even supporting native drivers. If it's gold in winehq it is certainly worth trying.

There's a wine meta tool called "Play on Linux" that makes downloading and configuring various wine versions pretty simple.

As for getting ZOS to provide a native linux version... lol. Wouldn't hold my breath for that one...

seaef

I'll support that, even though I don't use Linux much any more.

Anything to wean people off of that embarrassment called Windows.

SFBryan18

GrimGryphon wrote: »

I'll support that, even though I don't use Linux much any more.

Anything to wean people off of that embarrassment called Windows.

Windows is like the iPhone. Works OK, but I hate the company that shoves it down our throats. It's why, along with the lop sided thumbsticks, I'll always choose Playstation over XBox.

AlexDougherty

Nevermind my edit turned into me quoting myself (below)

AlexDougherty

smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »

You already made it compatible with MAC, and no one actually uses that, at least not people that matter.

Everybody matters, to somebody.

I will agree that XP is still miles ahead of Vista, and slightly ahead of Windows 7 (they closed the gap), and my sister says Windows 8 is very nice but a bit weird a first. They do seem to take a step or five backwards everytime they release a new version.

KhajitFurTrader

smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »

You already made it compatible with MAC, and no one actually uses that, at least not people that matter.

If this is your attempt at humor, I'd say that because of the OpenGL rendering engine already in place in the OS X client, and the recent move to Steam, with Valve being strong supporters of the GNU/Linux platform, the chances of there ever being a Linux client aren't exactly zero. It's just a question of demand, and of effort/ROI ratio. The biggest hurdle doing such things is usually finding the qualified and experienced people to pull this off in the first place.

If you weren't kidding, please forget I said anything at all. Move along, there's nothing to see here. ^_^

smeeprocketnub19_ESO

KhajitFurTrader wrote: »

smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »

You already made it compatible with MAC, and no one actually uses that, at least not people that matter.

If this is your attempt at humor, I'd say that because of the OpenGL rendering engine already in place in the OS X client, and the recent move to Steam, with Valve being strong supporters of the GNU/Linux platform, the chances of there ever being a Linux client aren't exactly zero. It's just a question of demand, and of effort/ROI ratio.

If you weren't kidding, please forget I said anything at all. Move along, there's nothing to see here. ^_^

I really do want to play it in linux, but it's not a particularly serious post.

Mud_Puppy

Linux Redhat - master race.

AlexDougherty

Mud_Puppy wrote: »

Linux Redhat - master race.

No, Daleks - Master Race

unless the Doctor is about, in which case they run around like headless chickens

Mitharus

Can you not set the renderer to OPENGL in UserSettings.txt ??

That would be step one to get it running under wine IMO. I'd think there'd probably be some shader issues if you switched to OpenGL since DX is HLSL vs. OpenGL's GLSL unless they have shaders for each language.

The wine libs should take the DX calls to native anyway. You'll most likely want to use the vendor driver if you can (ATI's is very hit or miss, so the kernel driver is usually the better choice in my experience).

BrassRazoo wrote: »

Make it work yourself if you want to use a hobby kit.

Eh? Hobby Kit? Can you expand on that?

-M

Edit: Hrmm... Maybe just switching the renderer to DX9 would work as well. Haven't messed with wine in ages, but I was thinking the DX9 api was almost completely supported.

KhajitFurTrader

smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »

I really do want to play it in linux, but it's not a particularly serious post.

The biggest problem (see my edit) is usually finding the right expertise in HR. It's not like you can throw a brick and hit a dozen enterprise-level qualified, experienced with OpenGL and network code, programmers in the face.

And I think we can all agree that no-one would want a byte-level emulation "port".

Mitharus

KhajitFurTrader wrote: »

The biggest problem (see my edit) is usually finding the right expertise in HR. It's not like you can throw a brick and hit a dozen enterprise-level qualified, experienced with OpenGL and network code, programmers in the face.

The networking code should be pretty trivial depending on their client backend. If it's working on MAC, it should work on Linux w/o to much issue (Linux network stack is pretty much BSD after all -- Does really need some... cleaning? though). I don't think Apple messed the Network stack on OSX up; IIRC it was based on FreeBSD's.

OpenGL on the other hand... well, it's running on MAC so shouldn't have to do much there either. I'd like to see the errors that would happen if they tried compiling the client. The 'windowed' mode section would probably blow up unless they're using GLUT on the OpenGL side for windowing.

Now, what they would target for optimizations would be a completely different beast. XOrg, Wayland, Mir; What libs or provided ones; etc... That would be the interesting thing to see.

-M

smeeprocketnub19_ESO

you guys are hurting my head with your smartness. This is why I haven't switched to Linux just yet. It seems to be less of a learning curve and more of a learning cliff. I desperately want to though, and having my favorite games in linux would make a huge difference.

nicholaspingasb16_ESO

Yeah, no. Only a handful of crazy hermits use linux as their main OS with no windows PC as an alternative. It's not worth their time or money.

EDIT: Also, Windows 7 is an extremely stable, easy to use, visually appealing OS. Even Windows 8.1 isn't that bad.

poodlemasterb16_ESO

Mud_Puppy wrote: »

Linux Redhat - master race.

Slackware rules. Red Hat's pitiful SysV heresy is typical of the baby distributions. BSD init is the one true way.

You want to be a bit careful.

NorthernFury

smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »

Dear ZOS,

I really want to get rid of Windows. It's awful, and I am tired of shelling out cash to Microsoft every few years when their best product was long ago (windows xp.)

I implore you, make ESO work with linux. I want to switch and running ESO through an emulator would probably be ridiculously laggy.

You already made it compatible with MAC, and no one actually uses that, at least not people that matter.

You promised us we could play how we want, and I want to play ESO on Linux.

I wonder if you could run it through a windows VM, on Linux

butterfly442

It doesn't even work in Windows properly.

And you expect them to make it so it doesn't work somewhere else properly.

LMFAO!

poodlemasterb16_ESO

butterfly442 wrote: »

It doesn't even work in Windows properly.

And you expect them to make it so it doesn't work somewhere else properly.

LMFAO!

Seems to run just fine on my machine. You are having problems?

KhajitFurTrader

Mitharus wrote: »

Now, what they would target for optimizations would be a completely different beast. XOrg, Wayland, Mir; What libs or provided ones; etc... That would be the interesting thing to see.

-M

Well, since they're on Steam anyway, it would seem logical to target for Valve's flavor of GNU/Linux first (after all, the distribution channel is already there), and then go from there. IIRC Valve is using some kind of Debian/Ubuntu, but I might be wrong.

KhajitFurTrader

Did some reading, SteamOS is Debian-based.

Mitharus

poodlemasterb16_ESO wrote: »

Slackware rules. Red Hat's pitiful SysV heresy is typical of the baby distributions. BSD init is the one true way.

You want to be a bit careful.

Absolutely agree. This must be repeated more.

In J. R. "Bob" Dobbs we trust. ;P

-M

Mitharus

KhajitFurTrader wrote: »

Did some reading, SteamOS is Debian-based.

Yeah it is, but Debian's pretty easy to swap out any part.

-M

DenverRalphy

KhajitFurTrader wrote: »

Did some reading, SteamOS is Debian-based.

There is no Steam OS. That just means that Steam's webserver uses a Debian based distribution. That would have zero impact on a Linux user trying to run the game under Linux.

GreySix

smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »

You already made it compatible with MAC, and no one actually uses that, at least not people that matter.

Not much one for making friends, eh?

smeeprocketnub19_ESO

GreySix wrote: »

smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »

You already made it compatible with MAC, and no one actually uses that, at least not people that matter.

Not much one for making friends, eh?

I think ANYONE on this forum would vouche for my charm and winning personality.

Mitharus

DenverRalphy wrote: »

There is no Steam OS.

Err.... http://store.steampowered.com/livingroom/SteamOS/

Try again.

-M