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Cheap Respec, but...
Hello,
First of all, the cheap respec is a great move to make the huge class changes bareable to most players.
There is however still one HUGE downside in the update in terms of gear: many players invested a considerable aomunt of time and resources to obtain/craft their ideal set, and the huge changes in sets render most of them useless with the current builds.
Of course, one could rebuild his character to match his sets new attribute, but allow me to doubt this is an ideal solution.
All our old sets are good for is thus deconstructing for crafting materials, or put otherwise a huge loss of time and ressources (it is really heartbraking to deconstruct a VR12 yellow set with yellow enchantment - all those hours for nothing...).
A simple solution, would be to unbind ALL current gear, thus allowing players to at least sell/trade their current sets at a smaller loss.
Not only will this greatly contribute in keeping player's morale up (happy customers are more likely to remain customers), but this will also strengthen the sense of community, and interplayer communication.
Looking forward for some feedback.
First of all, the cheap respec is a great move to make the huge class changes bareable to most players.
There is however still one HUGE downside in the update in terms of gear: many players invested a considerable aomunt of time and resources to obtain/craft their ideal set, and the huge changes in sets render most of them useless with the current builds.
Of course, one could rebuild his character to match his sets new attribute, but allow me to doubt this is an ideal solution.
All our old sets are good for is thus deconstructing for crafting materials, or put otherwise a huge loss of time and ressources (it is really heartbraking to deconstruct a VR12 yellow set with yellow enchantment - all those hours for nothing...).
A simple solution, would be to unbind ALL current gear, thus allowing players to at least sell/trade their current sets at a smaller loss.
Not only will this greatly contribute in keeping player's morale up (happy customers are more likely to remain customers), but this will also strengthen the sense of community, and interplayer communication.
Looking forward for some feedback.
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emeraldbay✭✭✭✭✭I think that would be a nice thing to do during the 1g respec week.-T h e - A l d m e r i - I n i t i a t i v e-— O r d e r - o f - t h e - R a v y n —1 -
Sharp✭✭✭So would you like the gear to be never changing, no major content patches, no new gear? Gear gets outdated; gear changes, it's a fact of MMORPGs.Edited by Sharp on August 5, 2014 3:12PMHalfheart - VR 12 Altmer Sorcerer5 -
smeeprocketnub19_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭yea this is depressing full set of gold and purple vr12 gear all with gold enchants, and I might maybe get a dreugh wax or two deconing.
I'm not even going to upgrade anything to gold anymore.Dear Sister, I do not spread rumors, I create them.1 -
UPrime✭✭✭✭The thing to keep in mind is that a lot of purpose of end game is the gear treadmill. So gear will become outdated to give you a reason to try to get new stuff. While chances are we'll not see big changes like this again, instead we'll get new better gear/sets, this is still part of the treadmill.
If they just give you everything, what's the point of playing?4 -
Artemiisia✭✭✭✭✭
✭if u were thinking that the gear you have on is the last set of gear ever, you havent played mmo games enough....
even the gear we get now, will lose its value, surprise5 -
Cyrdemaceb17_ESO✭✭✭I can't even use the free respec. When I get home next week from the business trip, I'll have to pay the higher respec costs again.1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭I have never understood this Bind on Equip stuff. I know what it is, I just can't understand why it is there. Maybe Unique things that are only supposed to be acquired by a character after doing a quest, I can understand that.
I frequently make armor and weapons for my lower level alts with my Crafters. But, why should I have to make an armor set twice? I can't have any handme down crafted sets to my lower level Alts as they grow and flourish? I can make it in the first place and send it to them. If I wear it, then it has no value to me other than deconstruction? Selling it is not an option as you get so little from a vendor and from what I understand about this BoE, I can't sell it to another player.
BoE makes no sense at all to me. Unless someone at ZoS has an irrational fear of dirty clothes.Enjoy the game, life is what you really want to be worried about.
PakKat "Everything was going well, until I died"
Gary Gravestink "I am glad you died, I needed the help"1 -
Sharp✭✭✭Cyrdemaceb17_ESO wrote: »I can't even use the free respec. When I get home next week from the business trip, I'll have to pay the higher respec costs again.
It's not free now; and it's going to be reduced still from what it was after this week.
Halfheart - VR 12 Altmer Sorcerer0 -
liquid_wolf✭✭✭✭I've grinded, enchanted, destroyed, and disenchanted thousands of pieces of armor. I literally have tens of thousands of hours in grinding gear, crafting gear, and destroying that gear.
I've been doing this for years... almost decades.
There is no sympathy in me any more... there is no compassion for your plight.
There is only the grind.Edited by liquid_wolf on August 5, 2014 3:34PM5 -
UPrime✭✭✭✭I have never understood this Bind on Equip stuff. I know what it is, I just can't understand why it is there. Maybe Unique things that are only supposed to be acquired by a character after doing a quest, I can understand that.
I frequently make armor and weapons for my lower level alts with my Crafters. But, why should I have to make an armor set twice? I can't have any handme down crafted sets to my lower level Alts as they grow and flourish? I can make it in the first place and send it to them. If I wear it, then it has no value to me other than deconstruction? Selling it is not an option as you get so little from a vendor and from what I understand about this BoE, I can't sell it to another player.
BoE makes no sense at all to me. Unless someone at ZoS has an irrational fear of dirty clothes.
In ESO BoE is actually BoA (Bind on Account). You can transfer your BoE stuff to your alts via shared bank.
And the purpose of BoE in general is to prevent a second hand market which would drive price down to vender sell cost. This way new crafts/drops are still valuable. Otherwise after a certain saturation point nobody would ever need to craft gear, and drops would be just vendered.2 -
timidobserver✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Welcome to MMOs. Your gear will not last forever. Collect mats so you can be ready when things change.V16 Uriel Stormblessed EP Magicka Templar(main)
V16 Derelict Vagabond EP Stamina DK
V16 Redacted Ep Stam Sorc
V16 Insolent EP Magicka Sorc(retired)
V16 Jed I Nyte EP Stamina NB(retired)1 -
Nestor✭✭✭✭✭
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In ESO BoE is actually BoA (Bind on Account). You can transfer your BoE stuff to your alts via shared bank.
That is good to to know. I just started making Crafted Sets and I have no Alts coming up in the ranks, so I had not tried to hand it down. But, the BoE was stopping me from even thinking about it.
Enjoy the game, life is what you really want to be worried about.
PakKat "Everything was going well, until I died"
Gary Gravestink "I am glad you died, I needed the help"0 -
pahajuju✭✭They need people to grind stuff, so they play the game and pay for playing.
If they didn't make our armors bad we'd use the same armor forever, get bored and stop paying for playing.EU server, and loosing interest in the game.1 -
Jaxsun✭✭✭✭The thing to keep in mind is that a lot of purpose of end game is the gear treadmill. So gear will become outdated to give you a reason to try to get new stuff. While chances are we'll not see big changes like this again, instead we'll get new better gear/sets, this is still part of the treadmill.
If they just give you everything, what's the point of playing?
The purpose of the game should not be gear grinding.(looks in disgust at SWTOR). The game should have enough to do on it's own accord that they don't need to keep making you grind new sets of gear to keep subs. In SWTOR for example, once I bought a whole set of gear from tokens made doing the end game content(pve especially) I didn't need to do the content anymore and there was nothing else to do so it made no sense to keep playing. I really hope this game doesn't become that way.0 -
Don't misunderstand me, I hope there will be new sets and encourage this, I want to update new sets as they come out... Agree on the MMO grinding.
But please, explain me in which universe the necklace that gave me health yesterday gives me magick today! What's the story here (the RPG part)? Is it just a joke Sheogorath (would make sense)?
I'm not talking about a permanent unbind... just a temporary one, because the effects of all sets in the game have changed.0