Harrassment at dye stations...happening NOW

MornaBaine

So a bunch of mental midgets have decided it'd be fun to hang out at the dye stations and spam spells so no one can actually see the colors as they try them out. Just when I thought people couldn't get any more petty or ridiculous or spiteful. Can you guys PLEASE send some GMs out to the dye stations with ban hammers? Please? I was able to get in early but I feel bad for all the folks dealing with this BS right now!

Samadhi

Somehow I do not find this development to be even remotely unexpected.

ahvann

Oh my g- *facepalm*

And they wonder why people don't want to party/join guilds/engage in in-game chat.

forbarcusb16_ESO

Those guys sound awesome

Sick troll jokes aside, I know reporting only goes so far, have you tried non-populated areas to dye your armour? Like if you're in AD, then going to pretty much anywhere in Malabal Tor?

Cathexis

The correct term is little people.

bluesodafizz

There are a ton of zones I've been in today that have only one or two people at the station (some none). Try switching to a less popular zone or a higher level one.

SirAndy

Samadhi wrote: »

Somehow I do not find this development to be even remotely unexpected.

smeeprocketnub19_ESO

are there really three threads up about this?

MornaBaine

In Wayrest there was one particular jacktard [snip] who was just being incredibly obnoxious. I reported him and I'm pretty sure several other people did as well. Yeah I know it's a little thing and there are far worse "crimes" in the world...I just get sick of seeing jerks get by with this kind of antisocial sociopathic BS.

[Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Naming & Shaming]

Zorrashi

I knew it was coming. I knew it was coming real soon. yet I still had that small hope that maybe, just maybe, it wouldn't happen. I still had faith in humanity and sincerely hoped that people could be mature and not spam spells just to troll people trying the new dye system....

I was wrong to naively hope.

Ok, melodrama aside, the GMs need to need to get out there if they have nothing better to do. But f they can't, just go to another zone.

Gokmak

Plenty of empty zones to travel to.

smeeprocketnub19_ESO

MornaBaine wrote: »

In Wayrest there was one particular jacktard [snip] who was just being incredibly obnoxious. I reported him and I'm pretty sure several other people did as well. Yeah I know it's a little thing and there are far worse "crimes" in the world...I just get sick of seeing jerks get by with this kind of antisocial sociopathic BS.

[Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Naming & Shaming]

so you are telling me that because he is messing around with the colors on your screen he is antisocial and sociopathic? Do you know what sociopaths actually are, or what antisocial behavior actually is.

If you want to look up a good sociopath, try John Wayne Gacy Jr, or H.H. Holmes

you are blowing this way out of proportion and abusing the report feature.


Moderator Edit: Edited quote from moderated post.

JKorr

smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »

MornaBaine wrote: »

In Wayrest there was one particular jacktard named Higbee who was just being incredibly obnoxious. I reported him and I'm pretty sure several other people did as well. Yeah I know it's a little thing and there are far worse "crimes" in the world...I just get sick of seeing jerks get by with this kind of antisocial sociopathic BS.

so you are telling me that because he is messing around with the colors on your screen he is antisocial and sociopathic? Do you know what sociopaths actually are, or what antisocial behavior actually is.

If you want to look up a good sociopath, try John Wayne Gacy Jr, or H.H. Holmes

you are blowing this way out of proportion and abusing the report feature.

Did you ever read the ToS? Reporting that is not abusing the report feature.

Engage in disruptive behavior in chat areas, game areas, forums, or any other area or aspect of the Services. Examples of disruptive behavior include, but is not limited to, conduct which interferes with the normal flow of gameplay or dialogue within a Service, vulgar language, abusiveness, hitting the return key repeatedly or inputting large images so the screen goes by too fast to read, use of excessive shouting [all caps] in an attempt to disturb other users, "spamming" or flooding [posting repetitive text], commercial postings, solicitations and advertisements, posting advertising or promotional messaging, chain letters, pyramid schemes, or other commercial activities.

pecheckler

You're asking for a quick resolution from a company that took three weeks to start addressing blatant bots that delayed our game progression, ruined the game economy, and soured the gameplay for all new players?

Samadhi

Zorrashi wrote: »

...I still had faith in humanity and sincerely hoped that people could be mature and not spam spells just to troll people trying the new dye system....
...

Everything is so much more manageable after giving up all hope in humanity.
Hold yourself accountable for your own actions and maintain no expectations of decency from others.

smeeprocketnub19_ESO

JKorr wrote: »

smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »

MornaBaine wrote: »

In Wayrest there was one particular jacktard named Higbee who was just being incredibly obnoxious. I reported him and I'm pretty sure several other people did as well. Yeah I know it's a little thing and there are far worse "crimes" in the world...I just get sick of seeing jerks get by with this kind of antisocial sociopathic BS.

so you are telling me that because he is messing around with the colors on your screen he is antisocial and sociopathic? Do you know what sociopaths actually are, or what antisocial behavior actually is.

If you want to look up a good sociopath, try John Wayne Gacy Jr, or H.H. Holmes

you are blowing this way out of proportion and abusing the report feature.

Did you ever read the ToS? Reporting that is not abusing the report feature.

Engage in disruptive behavior in chat areas, game areas, forums, or any other area or aspect of the Services. Examples of disruptive behavior include, but is not limited to, conduct which interferes with the normal flow of gameplay or dialogue within a Service, vulgar language, abusiveness, hitting the return key repeatedly or inputting large images so the screen goes by too fast to read, use of excessive shouting [all caps] in an attempt to disturb other users, "spamming" or flooding [posting repetitive text], commercial postings, solicitations and advertisements, posting advertising or promotional messaging, chain letters, pyramid schemes, or other commercial activities.

The TOS is intentionally wide reaching as well as being vague to cover any potential genuine problems. Not everything that inconveniences you is a real problem. Go to another dye station. They pay for a sub too and should be able to use their abilities there if they want.

Nestor

smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »

so you are telling me that because he is messing around with the colors on your screen he is antisocial and sociopathic? Do you know what sociopaths actually are, or what antisocial behavior actually is.

If you want to look up a good sociopath, try John Wayne Gacy Jr, or H.H. Holmes

According to the Definition

is traditionally defined as a personality disorder characterized by enduring antisocial behavior, diminished empathy and remorse, and disinhibited or bold behavior.

This is the behavior of a Sociopath. Sociopaths don't have to be killers, or even criminals.

Kazya

smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »

JKorr wrote: »

smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »

MornaBaine wrote: »

In Wayrest there was one particular jacktard named Higbee who was just being incredibly obnoxious. I reported him and I'm pretty sure several other people did as well. Yeah I know it's a little thing and there are far worse "crimes" in the world...I just get sick of seeing jerks get by with this kind of antisocial sociopathic BS.

so you are telling me that because he is messing around with the colors on your screen he is antisocial and sociopathic? Do you know what sociopaths actually are, or what antisocial behavior actually is.

If you want to look up a good sociopath, try John Wayne Gacy Jr, or H.H. Holmes

you are blowing this way out of proportion and abusing the report feature.

Did you ever read the ToS? Reporting that is not abusing the report feature.

Engage in disruptive behavior in chat areas, game areas, forums, or any other area or aspect of the Services. Examples of disruptive behavior include, but is not limited to, conduct which interferes with the normal flow of gameplay or dialogue within a Service, vulgar language, abusiveness, hitting the return key repeatedly or inputting large images so the screen goes by too fast to read, use of excessive shouting [all caps] in an attempt to disturb other users, "spamming" or flooding [posting repetitive text], commercial postings, solicitations and advertisements, posting advertising or promotional messaging, chain letters, pyramid schemes, or other commercial activities.

The TOS is intentionally wide reaching as well as being vague to cover any potential genuine problems. Not everything that inconveniences you is a real problem. Go to another dye station. They pay for a sub too and should be able to use their abilities there if they want.

By destroying the game for other players? I'm sorry to disapoint you but that is actually harassment. And the one in Wayrest for example, even said he throw off his heals just because he didn't like the dye system....

dharbert

They haven't stopped anyone from spamming multiple spells and synergies in banks, what makes you think they will put a stop to this?

UrQuan

Nestor wrote: »

smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »

so you are telling me that because he is messing around with the colors on your screen he is antisocial and sociopathic? Do you know what sociopaths actually are, or what antisocial behavior actually is.

If you want to look up a good sociopath, try John Wayne Gacy Jr, or H.H. Holmes

According to the Definition

is traditionally defined as a personality disorder characterized by enduring antisocial behavior, diminished empathy and remorse, and disinhibited or bold behavior.

This is the behavior of a Sociopath. Sociopaths don't have to be killers, or even criminals.

In fact, the vast majority of sociopaths aren't. There was a study a couple of years ago on the psychology of corporate CEOs. Based on the results of the psychological questionnaires that they completed, a shockingly high percentage of them were sociopaths, and yet I'm sure that only a very small number of them (if any) had ever been prosecuted for any crimes.

But that's OK, just as smee has his own definition of griefing (which, naturally, doesn't match up with how the TOS or other players define it), he apparently has his own definition of sociopathic behavior (which, naturally, doesn't match up with how psychologists define it).

Maotti

I'm so glad that i have all alliance zones unlocked! Can't be anyone at the dye stations in Stormhaven i'd wager tomorrow when i log on.

There's barely anyone there now so why would there be more there tomorrow?

smeeprocketnub19_ESO

Ur-Quan wrote: »

Nestor wrote: »

smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »

so you are telling me that because he is messing around with the colors on your screen he is antisocial and sociopathic? Do you know what sociopaths actually are, or what antisocial behavior actually is.

If you want to look up a good sociopath, try John Wayne Gacy Jr, or H.H. Holmes

According to the Definition

is traditionally defined as a personality disorder characterized by enduring antisocial behavior, diminished empathy and remorse, and disinhibited or bold behavior.

This is the behavior of a Sociopath. Sociopaths don't have to be killers, or even criminals.

In fact, the vast majority of sociopaths aren't. There was a study a couple of years ago on the psychology of corporate CEOs. Based on the results of the psychological questionnaires that they completed, a shockingly high percentage of them were sociopaths, and yet I'm sure that only a very small number of them (if any) had ever been prosecuted for any crimes.

But that's OK, just as smee has his own definition of griefing (which, naturally, doesn't match up with how the TOS or other players define it), he apparently has his own definition of sociopathic behavior (which, naturally, doesn't match up with how psychologists define it).

I find it more sociopathic (or really antisocial or even psychotic were I to specify) to be threatened with physical violence over my views but apparently it's okay if the person is agreeing with you.

I dabble a bit in psychiatry, and it's pretty damn hard to judge someone's psychological health from their actions online in this matter. if they are there during a stream of a suicide egging the person on, you got yourself a good basis. But you armchair psychiatrist need to leave the diagnosing to actual professionals.

JKorr

smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »

JKorr wrote: »

smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »

MornaBaine wrote: »

In Wayrest there was one particular jacktard named Higbee who was just being incredibly obnoxious. I reported him and I'm pretty sure several other people did as well. Yeah I know it's a little thing and there are far worse "crimes" in the world...I just get sick of seeing jerks get by with this kind of antisocial sociopathic BS.

so you are telling me that because he is messing around with the colors on your screen he is antisocial and sociopathic? Do you know what sociopaths actually are, or what antisocial behavior actually is.

If you want to look up a good sociopath, try John Wayne Gacy Jr, or H.H. Holmes

you are blowing this way out of proportion and abusing the report feature.

Did you ever read the ToS? Reporting that is not abusing the report feature.

Engage in disruptive behavior in chat areas, game areas, forums, or any other area or aspect of the Services. Examples of disruptive behavior include, but is not limited to, conduct which interferes with the normal flow of gameplay or dialogue within a Service, vulgar language, abusiveness, hitting the return key repeatedly or inputting large images so the screen goes by too fast to read, use of excessive shouting [all caps] in an attempt to disturb other users, "spamming" or flooding [posting repetitive text], commercial postings, solicitations and advertisements, posting advertising or promotional messaging, chain letters, pyramid schemes, or other commercial activities.

The TOS is intentionally wide reaching as well as being vague to cover any potential genuine problems. Not everything that inconveniences you is a real problem. Go to another dye station. They pay for a sub too and should be able to use their abilities there if they want.

Yep. Limited number of immature gits "making a statement" or getting their jollies by ruining the game for a larger number of players by blocking content and causing problems do pay their subs. So do the players they are blocking and harassing.

Zenimax gets to choose whether the limited number of immature gits gets to block content and ruin other players, possibly larger numbers of players who also pay subs is more important to keep. Mature players who want to play the game, access features in the game, and enjoy their game, or the smaller number of players who are disrupting the game and breaking the ToS.

By the way, they don't have the right to do whatever they want wherever they want whenever they want, sub or not. If you're playing, you agreed to abide by the ToS and Code of Conduct. That covers disrupting other players' games.

dharbert

smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »

I dabble a bit in psychiatry, and it's pretty damn hard to judge someone's psychological health from their actions online in this matter. if they are there during a stream of a suicide egging the person on, you got yourself a good basis. But you armchair psychiatrist need to leave the diagnosing to actual professionals.

Dabble does not equal Professional.

Now, let's get this back on topic.

UrQuan

smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »

I dabble a bit in psychiatry,

If that were true, you never would have said this:

smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »

If you want to look up a good sociopath, try John Wayne Gacy Jr, or H.H. Holmes

As you would have known that, while serial killers are generally sociopaths, they are also completely atypical examples of sociopaths.

aoshi1b14_ESO

We all pay subs. Point is, the people griefing know EXACTLY what they are doing, and why they are doing it for, no matter how often people white-knight for them. You be a ***-bag ingame, you get reported by the people you are being a ***-bag to. Griefers should know this by now.

aoshi1b14_ESO

smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »

Ur-Quan wrote: »

Nestor wrote: »

I dabble a bit in psychiatry, and it's pretty damn hard to judge someone's psychological health from their actions online in this matter. if they are there during a stream of a suicide egging the person on, you got yourself a good basis. But you armchair psychiatrist need to leave the diagnosing to actual professionals.

Are you even reading or putting any thought into what you are posting?

Laura

@smeeprocketnub19_ESO holy crap please stop trying to play the victim card in every single post you find.

You do NOT have to pick a fight in every thread. You can go to tumblr and tell them about how someone upset you on a video game forum. The ESO forums are not an echo chamber like you are use to and often create- this means people will have differing opinions and you need to learn to deal with it.


Also you do not DABBLE in psychiatry. people that "dabble" in psychiatry is why we are loosening up the word "trigger" and other silly things. Its called exaggerating people do it - you don't have to fight it.

fredarbonab14_ESO

They need to be able to flag players acting like degenerates 'PvP' flagged, so we can kill them without mercy for 24 hours. That will put a stop to it, and what fun.

Dominoid

dharbert wrote: »

They haven't stopped anyone from spamming multiple spells and synergies in banks, what makes you think they will put a stop to this?

Because it's normally just a nuisance. At the dye station, the shader effect for the spell doesn't allow you to see the dye you are using.

Hope they enjoy their ban.

ZOS_CatK

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