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Guild bank limitation
Kos
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I remember reading a post about family guild which could not have guild bank due to limited number of members. Have anybody tried to get 10 members to get the bank and then drop a few members? I wonder if all is lost then or do we keep the bank?
It would be great solution for everyone since we could all have a single person guilds with bank space if that worked. I don't think it would be considered an exploit or am I wrong (if it worked of course)?
Edited by Kos on August 3, 2014 12:02AM It would be great solution for everyone since we could all have a single person guilds with bank space if that worked. I don't think it would be considered an exploit or am I wrong (if it worked of course)?
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Soloeus✭✭✭✭✭
✭You lose access to bank. You can still withdraw items but you cannot deposit.
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Just recruit some inactive, partially retired players who don't care and are never on. You might have a list of 60 "players" of which 5 have been logged on in the last 2 months, and that is the best solution.
Too bad ESO encourages either Big Elite MMO Athlete guilds or dead guilds.Edited by Soloeus on August 3, 2014 12:04AM
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david271749✭✭✭✭✭They should change the requirement for banking to 2 members from the current 10. It seems like a small thing, but a lot of people would appreciate it.1 -
Nova Sky✭✭✭✭✭david271749 wrote: »They should change the requirement for banking to 2 members from the current 10. It seems like a small thing, but a lot of people would appreciate it.
I can imagine they'd appreciate it, because if the requirement for a guild bank was only only two members, people would never have need to buy normal bank or bag spaces, because just about everyone would have access to personal guild banks with 500 slots apiece.
Hell, if they did that, I'd instantly join three, two-person guilds so I could have 1500 inventory slots. (I'd want to save at least one or two guild slots for trade and/or PvE/PvP guilds.)
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Alphashado✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭david271749 wrote: »They should change the requirement for banking to 2 members from the current 10. It seems like a small thing, but a lot of people would appreciate it.
I can imagine they'd appreciate it, because if the requirement for a guild bank was only only two members, people would never have need to buy normal bank or bag spaces, because just about everyone would have access to personal guild banks with 500 slots apiece.
Hell, if they did that, I'd instantly join three, two-person guilds so I could have 1500 inventory slots. (I'd want to save at least one or two guild slots for trade and/or PvE/PvP guilds.)
This. For some reason many people can't understand the limitations. Is bank space perfect? No. Should everyone have several hundred slots in their own personal guild bank? No. The server can only handle so much before it begins to lose performance. If everyone had their own personal guild banks, the server would have to save and load that many more items and information.
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✭✭Alphashado wrote: »david271749 wrote: »They should change the requirement for banking to 2 members from the current 10. It seems like a small thing, but a lot of people would appreciate it.
I can imagine they'd appreciate it, because if the requirement for a guild bank was only only two members, people would never have need to buy normal bank or bag spaces, because just about everyone would have access to personal guild banks with 500 slots apiece.
Hell, if they did that, I'd instantly join three, two-person guilds so I could have 1500 inventory slots. (I'd want to save at least one or two guild slots for trade and/or PvE/PvP guilds.)
This. For some reason many people can't understand the limitations. Is bank space perfect? No. Should everyone have several hundred slots in their own personal guild bank? No. The server can only handle so much before it begins to lose performance. If everyone had their own personal guild banks, the server would have to save and load that many more items and information.
While I agree with you, the flip-side is:
How much of a load does people logging in/out/in/out put on the server?
I know there are days where I'm in the game for several hours just logging in/out over and over swapping 'toons to move inventory.
That can't be zero-load on the server, either.The problem with society these days is that no one drinks from the skulls of their enemies anymore.3 -
SFBryan18✭✭✭✭✭
✭Alphashado wrote: »The server can only handle so much before it begins to lose performance. If everyone had their own personal guild banks, the server would have to save and load that many more items and information.
Do you have proof of this or are you just guessing? It sounds like you are saying that the server would use more processing, but bank space is mainly storage. Do you know how much information these servers can process? Let's consider that we pay for these servers to be maintained, and some websites offer free email with a much larger amount of storage. Just look at Youtube. You can upload and watch videos in HD there for free, and you think a few bank slots are going to ruin this game?Edited by SFBryan18 on August 3, 2014 2:40AM6 -
Alphashado✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Alphashado wrote: »The server can only handle so much before it begins to lose performance. If everyone had their own personal guild banks, the server would have to save and load that many more items and information.
Do you have proof of this or are you just guessing? It sounds like you are saying that the server would use more processing, but bank space is mainly storage. Do you know how much information these servers can process? Let's consider that we pay for these servers to be maintained, and some websites offer free email with a much larger amount of storage. Just look at Youtube. You can upload and watch videos in HD there for free, and you think a few bank slots are going to ruin this game?
I am no programmer. Nor do I pretend to be. But I was listening to a podcast interview with one of the devopers back around launch. I forget which dev. The question was asked: why are guild rosters capped at 500? He answered because every player puts a load on the server and every detail unique to each player puts stress on the server every time they load in. He went on to explain that this includes every item in storage and all the info for each guild that player is in. He then went on to say that once the severs were stable, perhaps they could increase roster sizes. So by default that would also apply to mass amounts of personal storage.
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siledre✭✭✭seriously, to all you antisocial types that come into an MMO not wanting to do anything that even hints that your grouping, just find 9 other people and live with it, wow.3
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✭✭Alphashado wrote: »The server can only handle so much before it begins to lose performance. If everyone had their own personal guild banks, the server would have to save and load that many more items and information.
Do you have proof of this or are you just guessing? It sounds like you are saying that the server would use more processing, but bank space is mainly storage. Do you know how much information these servers can process? Let's consider that we pay for these servers to be maintained, and some websites offer free email with a much larger amount of storage. Just look at Youtube. You can upload and watch videos in HD there for free, and you think a few bank slots are going to ruin this game?
And I don't THINK anything. I am telling you exactly what came out of a developers mouth. If you want to rage because you can't have your own persoanal free 500 storage slots, then take it up with them. As others have said, this is an MMO. Learn to interact with other people or go back to Zelda.
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SFBryan18✭✭✭✭✭
✭Alphashado wrote: »Alphashado wrote: »The server can only handle so much before it begins to lose performance. If everyone had their own personal guild banks, the server would have to save and load that many more items and information.
Do you have proof of this or are you just guessing? It sounds like you are saying that the server would use more processing, but bank space is mainly storage. Do you know how much information these servers can process? Let's consider that we pay for these servers to be maintained, and some websites offer free email with a much larger amount of storage. Just look at Youtube. You can upload and watch videos in HD there for free, and you think a few bank slots are going to ruin this game?
And I don't THINK anything. I am telling you exactly what came out of a developers mouth. If you want to rage because you can't have your own persoanal free 500 storage slots, then take it up with them. As others have said, this is an MMO. Learn to interact with other people or go back to Zelda.
You know there's an edit button for your posts?
If by interact, you mean recruit 9 random people whom you plan to lock out of the bank so they won't steal your stuff, then I only need 2 more people.
BTW, why Zelda? I played Oblivion and Skyrim. I've also played a bunch of multuiplayer shooters which were all about teamwork. Perhaps you should keep your assumptions to yourself?Edited by SFBryan18 on August 3, 2014 4:24AM1 -
Alphashado✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Alphashado wrote: »Alphashado wrote: »The server can only handle so much before it begins to lose performance. If everyone had their own personal guild banks, the server would have to save and load that many more items and information.
Do you have proof of this or are you just guessing? It sounds like you are saying that the server would use more processing, but bank space is mainly storage. Do you know how much information these servers can process? Let's consider that we pay for these servers to be maintained, and some websites offer free email with a much larger amount of storage. Just look at Youtube. You can upload and watch videos in HD there for free, and you think a few bank slots are going to ruin this game?
And I don't THINK anything. I am telling you exactly what came out of a developers mouth. If you want to rage because you can't have your own persoanal free 500 storage slots, then take it up with them. As others have said, this is an MMO. Learn to interact with other people or go back to Zelda.
You know there's an edit button for your posts?
If by interact, you mean recruit 9 random people
There you have it! And as a bonus for recruiting 9 other people, you get 500 slots of GUILD storage! See? That wasn't so hard now was it?
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✭Alphashado wrote: »Alphashado wrote: »Alphashado wrote: »The server can only handle so much before it begins to lose performance. If everyone had their own personal guild banks, the server would have to save and load that many more items and information.
Do you have proof of this or are you just guessing? It sounds like you are saying that the server would use more processing, but bank space is mainly storage. Do you know how much information these servers can process? Let's consider that we pay for these servers to be maintained, and some websites offer free email with a much larger amount of storage. Just look at Youtube. You can upload and watch videos in HD there for free, and you think a few bank slots are going to ruin this game?
And I don't THINK anything. I am telling you exactly what came out of a developers mouth. If you want to rage because you can't have your own persoanal free 500 storage slots, then take it up with them. As others have said, this is an MMO. Learn to interact with other people or go back to Zelda.
You know there's an edit button for your posts?
If by interact, you mean recruit 9 random people
There you have it! And as a bonus for recruiting 9 other people, you get 500 slots of GUILD storage! See? That wasn't so hard now was it?
I said random. Do you know what that means? People you don't know and can't trust. You're really trying to talk down to me when you can't even comprehend my posts? K.Edited by SFBryan18 on August 3, 2014 4:36AM0 -
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Alphashado✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Alphashado wrote: »Alphashado wrote: »Alphashado wrote: »The server can only handle so much before it begins to lose performance. If everyone had their own personal guild banks, the server would have to save and load that many more items and information.
Do you have proof of this or are you just guessing? It sounds like you are saying that the server would use more processing, but bank space is mainly storage. Do you know how much information these servers can process? Let's consider that we pay for these servers to be maintained, and some websites offer free email with a much larger amount of storage. Just look at Youtube. You can upload and watch videos in HD there for free, and you think a few bank slots are going to ruin this game?
And I don't THINK anything. I am telling you exactly what came out of a developers mouth. If you want to rage because you can't have your own persoanal free 500 storage slots, then take it up with them. As others have said, this is an MMO. Learn to interact with other people or go back to Zelda.
You know there's an edit button for your posts?
If by interact, you mean recruit 9 random people
There you have it! And as a bonus for recruiting 9 other people, you get 500 slots of GUILD storage! See? That wasn't so hard now was it?
I said random. Do you know what that means? People you don't know and can't trust. You're really trying to talk down to me when you can't even comprehend my posts? K.
If you refuse to create friendships then you arent entitled to the perks that come with it. Some people come to an MMO with 10 real life friends, but most do not. 99% of the friendships you have in an MMO started out as random encounters either in this game or a previous one. Guild storage is a perk, not an entitlement.
You need more than one person to use the carpool lane yes? Do you think it would be practical to demand access to the carpool lane just because it's part of the road and you pay taxes?
Would you walk into a nice club and demand the group discount even though it's just you and your date? Of course not. Guild storage is a perk that requires 10 people. If you refuse to meet the criteria, then you don't get it. It's that simple.
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SFBryan18✭✭✭✭✭
✭Alphashado wrote: »Alphashado wrote: »Alphashado wrote: »Alphashado wrote: »The server can only handle so much before it begins to lose performance. If everyone had their own personal guild banks, the server would have to save and load that many more items and information.
Do you have proof of this or are you just guessing? It sounds like you are saying that the server would use more processing, but bank space is mainly storage. Do you know how much information these servers can process? Let's consider that we pay for these servers to be maintained, and some websites offer free email with a much larger amount of storage. Just look at Youtube. You can upload and watch videos in HD there for free, and you think a few bank slots are going to ruin this game?
And I don't THINK anything. I am telling you exactly what came out of a developers mouth. If you want to rage because you can't have your own persoanal free 500 storage slots, then take it up with them. As others have said, this is an MMO. Learn to interact with other people or go back to Zelda.
You know there's an edit button for your posts?
If by interact, you mean recruit 9 random people
There you have it! And as a bonus for recruiting 9 other people, you get 500 slots of GUILD storage! See? That wasn't so hard now was it?
I said random. Do you know what that means? People you don't know and can't trust. You're really trying to talk down to me when you can't even comprehend my posts? K.
If you refuse to create friendships then you arent entitled to the perks that come with it. Some people come to an MMO with 10 real life friends, but most do not. 99% of the friendships you have in an MMO started out as random encounters either in this game or a previous one. Guild storage is a perk, not an entitlement.
You need more than one person to use the carpool lane yes? Do you think it would be practical to demand access to the carpool lane just because it's part of the road and you pay taxes?
Would you walk into a nice club and demand the group discount even though it's just you and your date? Of course not. Guild storage is a perk that requires 10 people. If you refuse to meet the criteria, then you don't get it. It's that simple.
Many freeways out here expand their lanes with tax payer money so there is less need for a car pool lane. What is the comparison? If I had enough bank space to start with, I would not care how much space a guild gets. There is not enough space, so I am forced to recruit 9 randoms who I don't plan to talk to.
As far as grouping and playing together, the game doesn't encourage it at all. The level gap between players makes playing together a hassle, and I'm not interested in following someone around anymore than they are interested in following me.
Your angry attempt to preach to me ignores the main reasons for why people want guild a bank in the first place and also why they do not wish to recruit random people. Someday, you'll trust the wrong person on the internet, and you'll learn your lesson.Edited by SFBryan18 on August 3, 2014 5:38AM2 -
Alphashado✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Alphashado wrote: »Alphashado wrote: »Alphashado wrote: »Alphashado wrote: »The server can only handle so much before it begins to lose performance. If everyone had their own personal guild banks, the server would have to save and load that many more items and information.
Do you have proof of this or are you just guessing? It sounds like you are saying that the server would use more processing, but bank space is mainly storage. Do you know how much information these servers can process? Let's consider that we pay for these servers to be maintained, and some websites offer free email with a much larger amount of storage. Just look at Youtube. You can upload and watch videos in HD there for free, and you think a few bank slots are going to ruin this game?
And I don't THINK anything. I am telling you exactly what came out of a developers mouth. If you want to rage because you can't have your own persoanal free 500 storage slots, then take it up with them. As others have said, this is an MMO. Learn to interact with other people or go back to Zelda.
You know there's an edit button for your posts?
If by interact, you mean recruit 9 random people
There you have it! And as a bonus for recruiting 9 other people, you get 500 slots of GUILD storage! See? That wasn't so hard now was it?
I said random. Do you know what that means? People you don't know and can't trust. You're really trying to talk down to me when you can't even comprehend my posts? K.
If you refuse to create friendships then you arent entitled to the perks that come with it. Some people come to an MMO with 10 real life friends, but most do not. 99% of the friendships you have in an MMO started out as random encounters either in this game or a previous one. Guild storage is a perk, not an entitlement.
You need more than one person to use the carpool lane yes? Do you think it would be practical to demand access to the carpool lane just because it's part of the road and you pay taxes?
Would you walk into a nice club and demand the group discount even though it's just you and your date? Of course not. Guild storage is a perk that requires 10 people. If you refuse to meet the criteria, then you don't get it. It's that simple.
Many freeways out here expand their lanes with tax payer money so there is less need for a car pool lane. What is the comparison? If I had enough bank space to start with, I would not care how much space a guild gets. There is not enough space, so I am forced to recruit 9 randoms who I don't plan to talk to.
As far as grouping and playing together, the game doesn't encourage it at all. The level gap between players makes playing together a hassle, and I'm not interested in following someone around anymore than they are interested in following me.
Your angry attempt to preach to me ignores the main reasons for why people want guild a bank in the first place and also why they do not wish to recruit random people. Someday, you'll trust the wrong person on the internet, and you'll learn your lesson.
I'm not angry nor am I preaching. You are playing an MMO. Sooner or later you will have to make friends.
Safe travels.
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✭Alphashado wrote: »Alphashado wrote: »Alphashado wrote: »Alphashado wrote: »Alphashado wrote: »The server can only handle so much before it begins to lose performance. If everyone had their own personal guild banks, the server would have to save and load that many more items and information.
Do you have proof of this or are you just guessing? It sounds like you are saying that the server would use more processing, but bank space is mainly storage. Do you know how much information these servers can process? Let's consider that we pay for these servers to be maintained, and some websites offer free email with a much larger amount of storage. Just look at Youtube. You can upload and watch videos in HD there for free, and you think a few bank slots are going to ruin this game?
And I don't THINK anything. I am telling you exactly what came out of a developers mouth. If you want to rage because you can't have your own persoanal free 500 storage slots, then take it up with them. As others have said, this is an MMO. Learn to interact with other people or go back to Zelda.
You know there's an edit button for your posts?
If by interact, you mean recruit 9 random people
There you have it! And as a bonus for recruiting 9 other people, you get 500 slots of GUILD storage! See? That wasn't so hard now was it?
I said random. Do you know what that means? People you don't know and can't trust. You're really trying to talk down to me when you can't even comprehend my posts? K.
If you refuse to create friendships then you arent entitled to the perks that come with it. Some people come to an MMO with 10 real life friends, but most do not. 99% of the friendships you have in an MMO started out as random encounters either in this game or a previous one. Guild storage is a perk, not an entitlement.
You need more than one person to use the carpool lane yes? Do you think it would be practical to demand access to the carpool lane just because it's part of the road and you pay taxes?
Would you walk into a nice club and demand the group discount even though it's just you and your date? Of course not. Guild storage is a perk that requires 10 people. If you refuse to meet the criteria, then you don't get it. It's that simple.
Many freeways out here expand their lanes with tax payer money so there is less need for a car pool lane. What is the comparison? If I had enough bank space to start with, I would not care how much space a guild gets. There is not enough space, so I am forced to recruit 9 randoms who I don't plan to talk to.
As far as grouping and playing together, the game doesn't encourage it at all. The level gap between players makes playing together a hassle, and I'm not interested in following someone around anymore than they are interested in following me.
Your angry attempt to preach to me ignores the main reasons for why people want guild a bank in the first place and also why they do not wish to recruit random people. Someday, you'll trust the wrong person on the internet, and you'll learn your lesson.
I'm not angry nor am I preaching. You are playing an MMO. Sooner or later you will have to make friends.
Safe travels.
Way to make such a generally well known statement Captain Obvious. Will I also need to learn to play? BTW, one does not need friends to play this game. I think the majority play it alone.Edited by SFBryan18 on August 3, 2014 6:38AM1 -
Adrastes✭✭✭Alphashado wrote: »Alphashado wrote: »Alphashado wrote: »Alphashado wrote: »Alphashado wrote: »The server can only handle so much before it begins to lose performance. If everyone had their own personal guild banks, the server would have to save and load that many more items and information.
Do you have proof of this or are you just guessing? It sounds like you are saying that the server would use more processing, but bank space is mainly storage. Do you know how much information these servers can process? Let's consider that we pay for these servers to be maintained, and some websites offer free email with a much larger amount of storage. Just look at Youtube. You can upload and watch videos in HD there for free, and you think a few bank slots are going to ruin this game?
And I don't THINK anything. I am telling you exactly what came out of a developers mouth. If you want to rage because you can't have your own persoanal free 500 storage slots, then take it up with them. As others have said, this is an MMO. Learn to interact with other people or go back to Zelda.
You know there's an edit button for your posts?
If by interact, you mean recruit 9 random people
There you have it! And as a bonus for recruiting 9 other people, you get 500 slots of GUILD storage! See? That wasn't so hard now was it?
I said random. Do you know what that means? People you don't know and can't trust. You're really trying to talk down to me when you can't even comprehend my posts? K.
If you refuse to create friendships then you arent entitled to the perks that come with it. Some people come to an MMO with 10 real life friends, but most do not. 99% of the friendships you have in an MMO started out as random encounters either in this game or a previous one. Guild storage is a perk, not an entitlement.
You need more than one person to use the carpool lane yes? Do you think it would be practical to demand access to the carpool lane just because it's part of the road and you pay taxes?
Would you walk into a nice club and demand the group discount even though it's just you and your date? Of course not. Guild storage is a perk that requires 10 people. If you refuse to meet the criteria, then you don't get it. It's that simple.
Many freeways out here expand their lanes with tax payer money so there is less need for a car pool lane. What is the comparison? If I had enough bank space to start with, I would not care how much space a guild gets. There is not enough space, so I am forced to recruit 9 randoms who I don't plan to talk to.
As far as grouping and playing together, the game doesn't encourage it at all. The level gap between players makes playing together a hassle, and I'm not interested in following someone around anymore than they are interested in following me.
Your angry attempt to preach to me ignores the main reasons for why people want guild a bank in the first place and also why they do not wish to recruit random people. Someday, you'll trust the wrong person on the internet, and you'll learn your lesson.
I'm not angry nor am I preaching. You are playing an MMO. Sooner or later you will have to make friends.
Safe travels.
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Archaole✭✭✭Alphashado wrote: »Alphashado wrote: »The server can only handle so much before it begins to lose performance. If everyone had their own personal guild banks, the server would have to save and load that many more items and information.
Do you have proof of this or are you just guessing? It sounds like you are saying that the server would use more processing, but bank space is mainly storage. Do you know how much information these servers can process? Let's consider that we pay for these servers to be maintained, and some websites offer free email with a much larger amount of storage. Just look at Youtube. You can upload and watch videos in HD there for free, and you think a few bank slots are going to ruin this game?
I am no programmer. Nor do I pretend to be. But I was listening to a podcast interview with one of the devopers back around launch. I forget which dev. The question was asked: why are guild rosters capped at 500? He answered because every player puts a load on the server and every detail unique to each player puts stress on the server every time they load in. He went on to explain that this includes every item in storage and all the info for each guild that player is in. He then went on to say that once the severs were stable, perhaps they could increase roster sizes. So by default that would also apply to mass amounts of personal storage.
I remember reading an interview that was similar to this, if not the same one. He made it make sense. Our inventory costs them web-storage space, which was one of the reasons that they made it to where every character account-wide was in the guild(s). And they only want to use a certain amount on that.3 -
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✭✭Alphashado wrote: »Alphashado wrote: »The server can only handle so much before it begins to lose performance. If everyone had their own personal guild banks, the server would have to save and load that many more items and information.
Do you have proof of this or are you just guessing? It sounds like you are saying that the server would use more processing, but bank space is mainly storage. Do you know how much information these servers can process? Let's consider that we pay for these servers to be maintained, and some websites offer free email with a much larger amount of storage. Just look at Youtube. You can upload and watch videos in HD there for free, and you think a few bank slots are going to ruin this game?
I am no programmer. Nor do I pretend to be. But I was listening to a podcast interview with one of the devopers back around launch. I forget which dev. The question was asked: why are guild rosters capped at 500? He answered because every player puts a load on the server and every detail unique to each player puts stress on the server every time they load in. He went on to explain that this includes every item in storage and all the info for each guild that player is in. He then went on to say that once the severs were stable, perhaps they could increase roster sizes. So by default that would also apply to mass amounts of personal storage.
I remember reading an interview that was similar to this, if not the same one. He made it make sense. Our inventory costs them web-storage space, which was one of the reasons that they made it to where every character account-wide was in the guild(s). And they only want to use a certain amount on that.
Be careful with reasonable comments like that. You will make them angry.
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Kos✭✭✭Edit: Sorry this was not really a good point. Guild bank is something available to a group of people.Edited by Kos on August 3, 2014 10:18AM0
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how about no. nobody have to do anything they do not want.[/quote]
You're absolute right. Nobody has to do anything they don't want. If a person doesn't want to connect with 9 other people in order to form a guild large enough to have a guild bank, they absolutely don't have to.
But just because a person doesn't want to do something doesn't mean they should be entitled to the perk that goes along with that something. If you don't want to find enough other people to open the perk that is the guild bank, then you don't get the bank. Finding a total of 10 people to unlock this perk is really, really easy. And I'm sure there are enough players out there that don't really give a fig for guilds anyway, who would be willing to join yours-knowing you only want the bank and that they can't touch-to populate your guild enough to open that perk.
If you don't want to have a guild with 10 or more members, fine. But the system is set up to allow for larger groups of people to reap the benefits of that system. It's a group discount, if you will, and no amount of crying because your group isn't large enough for the discount is going to change that. The system is working as planned, and as desired (by the people that developed it, not you specifically).
There is no reason that a group of two or three people should have access to the same resources that are designated to groups of 10+ or 50+ (in the case of the guild store). Inventory can be a pain, but if you're playing with people you trust already, inventory can be split and shifted around. My husband and I play together, and as such there is no reason for us to individually conquer all of the crafts. I do half, he does half, and so there is no reason for me to store items or mats for the crafts he is working on. There are significant bank and bag upgrade options available.
TL;DR: Guild banks are for guilds that have 10 or more people, and the system works as intended.Edited by sylviermoone on August 3, 2014 4:10PMCo-GM, Angry Unicorn Traders: PC/NA
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✭✭✭Way to make such a generally well known statement Captain Obvious. Will I also need to learn to play? BTW, one does not need friends to play this game. I think the majority play it alone.
I work with the premise that many of the players in the game are the same as the oh-so-pleasant posters here on the forum, and ignore them as much as possible.
On the other hand, I've found three wonderful guilds. None of them are pvp focused gotta kill them all guilds. One in particular has wonderful members who will cheerfully exchange items to level crafting, share alchemy items and crafting materials without asking for gold. There are motif books in the bank for guild members who might need them. Advanced players are willing to help less skilled guildmates learn.
I will still help random people in-game, but more of my attention is now on guildmates.0