Things I wish I knew from the start.

Woogawoman

smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »

your gender is irrelevant.

Not to me it isn't.

I am not sure why you feel the need to make a point out of telling me why my personal opinion is incorrect. But if it makes you feel better, I will rephrase my statement to say "as someone attracted to men, I found him charming."

MonkeyAssassin24

smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »

Woogawoman wrote: »

smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »

Woogawoman wrote: »

Also re: Darien Gautier. I found him charming, but maybe that's because I'm an actual female.

hmm I was under the impression that all women were individuals and opinions differed between them.

/shrug

He's a flirt and a ladies' man, and as a female, I found him charming. Obviously opinions differ, and I stated mine. Nothing in there says "all women find him charming."

yes but by saying that you feel that way as a female... how does being a female have anything to do with it?

If your character was a guy he'd still hit on you. Then he would be.. a man's man?

your gender is irrelevant.

Ugh...and the winner for most useless point to try and debate goes to.....^^^

Let's try and explain this as clear as possible. The OP stated they did not like Darien. Woogawoman stated her opinion that she found him charming as a flirt and a ladies' man, also stating that the fact that she herself being a female, probably played a role in her opinion of him. Nowhere at all did she say that being a woman is the only way to have that opinion of him, she merely stated her reasoning behind her own...wait for it...opinion.

So maybe you don't need to try and create unnecessary and unwarranted gender debates about a players' viewpoint of a game NPC. Your unfounded logic and insistence to bring this up more than once is astounding.

Also...gender = / = sex...

theyancey

I wish I had known that there was no solo PvE support past your initial faction areas. I thought that there would have been more quests added to those areas. I would have bought a 3 month sub instead of 6 months. Great game up until that point though!

smeeprocketnub19_ESO

Woogawoman wrote: »

smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »

your gender is irrelevant.

Not to me it isn't.

I am not sure why you feel the need to make a point out of telling me why my personal opinion is incorrect. But if it makes you feel better, I will rephrase my statement to say "as someone attracted to men, I found him charming."

in that particular instance yes your gender is irrelevant.

I'm not saying you shouldn't think he's charming, I'm just saying you do not speak for all women.

It's not that hard to understand >.<

smeeprocketnub19_ESO

MonkeyAssassin24 wrote: »

smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »

Woogawoman wrote: »

smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »

Woogawoman wrote: »

Also re: Darien Gautier. I found him charming, but maybe that's because I'm an actual female.

hmm I was under the impression that all women were individuals and opinions differed between them.

/shrug

He's a flirt and a ladies' man, and as a female, I found him charming. Obviously opinions differ, and I stated mine. Nothing in there says "all women find him charming."

yes but by saying that you feel that way as a female... how does being a female have anything to do with it?

If your character was a guy he'd still hit on you. Then he would be.. a man's man?

your gender is irrelevant.

Ugh...and the winner for most useless point to try and debate goes to.....^^^

Let's try and explain this as clear as possible. The OP stated they did not like Darien. Woogawoman stated her opinion that she found him charming as a flirt and a ladies' man, also stating that the fact that she herself being a female, probably played a role in her opinion of him. Nowhere at all did she say that being a woman is the only way to have that opinion of him, she merely stated her reasoning behind her own...wait for it...opinion.

So maybe you don't need to try and create unnecessary and unwarranted gender debates about a players' viewpoint of a game NPC. Your unfounded logic and insistence to bring this up more than once is astounding.

Also...gender = / = sex...

You are restating what was exactly the problem I had. But please, feel free to be hostile, I expect nothing more.

The problem is, in fact, her finding him charming has nothing to do with gender at all.

The issue is, when you start saying those types of things around a group of men, it becomes a socially acceptable stereotype. It's like how you have women who say they are PMSing (which is BS) and then suddenly it's okay to diminish a woman's opinion or anger in that manner.

But god forbid I try to correct that type of behavior. I need you to put me in my place.

renton1x1x1

Abilities i wish i'd used:
1. dragonblood for dk
2. impulse and wall of elements destruction staff
3. silver shards fighter guild and the fighter guild passives

Crafted special sets can be worn at any lvl
Should of researched all light armor instead of a mixture of light and medium

Healers and casters can be interrupted and interrupt can be mapped to a key

Woogawoman

smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »

But god forbid I try to correct that type of behavior. I need you to put me in my place.

Do you realize that "correcting my behavior" is you trying to put me in my place? I did not give you permission nor do I need you to do so.

I understand that you are sensitive to the topic, and believe me, I've certainly encountered plenty of harassment and stereotyping in online gaming over the past twenty years. But please do not project intentions onto my statements that I have clearly stated did not exist. Thanks.

MonkeyAssassin24

smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »

MonkeyAssassin24 wrote: »

smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »

Woogawoman wrote: »

smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »

Woogawoman wrote: »

Also re: Darien Gautier. I found him charming, but maybe that's because I'm an actual female.

hmm I was under the impression that all women were individuals and opinions differed between them.

/shrug

He's a flirt and a ladies' man, and as a female, I found him charming. Obviously opinions differ, and I stated mine. Nothing in there says "all women find him charming."

yes but by saying that you feel that way as a female... how does being a female have anything to do with it?

If your character was a guy he'd still hit on you. Then he would be.. a man's man?

your gender is irrelevant.

Ugh...and the winner for most useless point to try and debate goes to.....^^^

Let's try and explain this as clear as possible. The OP stated they did not like Darien. Woogawoman stated her opinion that she found him charming as a flirt and a ladies' man, also stating that the fact that she herself being a female, probably played a role in her opinion of him. Nowhere at all did she say that being a woman is the only way to have that opinion of him, she merely stated her reasoning behind her own...wait for it...opinion.

So maybe you don't need to try and create unnecessary and unwarranted gender debates about a players' viewpoint of a game NPC. Your unfounded logic and insistence to bring this up more than once is astounding.

Also...gender = / = sex...

You are restating what was exactly the problem I had. But please, feel free to be hostile, I expect nothing more.

The problem is, in fact, her finding him charming has nothing to do with gender at all.

The issue is, when you start saying those types of things around a group of men, it becomes a socially acceptable stereotype. It's like how you have women who say they are PMSing (which is BS) and then suddenly it's okay to diminish a woman's opinion or anger in that manner.

But god forbid I try to correct that type of behavior. I need you to put me in my place.

Hypocritical much? So you stereotype groups of men saying that they will accept social stereotypes...nice. As far as I could see...you were the only one who viewed her comment in such a manner. However, this thread has been derailed enough by this senseless debate about a comment of opinion, and we also don't need to bicker around a 3rd party who deserved none of the scrutiny that was thrown her way.

Noctisse

Wow, all this fuss because of THIS guy?

zwolfe21_ESO

Noctisse wrote: »

Wow, all this fuss because of THIS guy?
http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll180/Noxae/Screenshot_20140724_040828.png

I admit... I still think the guy is a jerk but I really didn't mean to start such a debate lmao. To be sure, it kinda upends some things I read about characters not being memorable.