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Wildstar rewards loyal players, ESO gives loyal players the shaft.
Laura
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http://massively.joystiq.com/2014/07/07/wildstar-rewarding-loyal-players-with-strain-facesnuggler/
"Carbine is celebrating WildStar's first month "by giving you something unique, and... gross." If you've applied a retail key to your account as of today, you'll be receiving an account-level Facesnuggler reward item tomorrow!"
ESO gives players who pay half price for the game a free pet on steam and basically does nothing for those of us who have payed to beta test there game.
I am sure most of you know I have been a big ZoS apologist and a big fan of what they have been doing but this is beyond messed up.
Edited by Laura on July 17, 2014 9:31PM "Carbine is celebrating WildStar's first month "by giving you something unique, and... gross." If you've applied a retail key to your account as of today, you'll be receiving an account-level Facesnuggler reward item tomorrow!"
ESO gives players who pay half price for the game a free pet on steam and basically does nothing for those of us who have payed to beta test there game.
I am sure most of you know I have been a big ZoS apologist and a big fan of what they have been doing but this is beyond messed up.
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✭http://massively.joystiq.com/2014/07/07/wildstar-rewarding-loyal-players-with-strain-facesnuggler/
I am sure most of you know I have been a big ZoS apologist and a big fan of what they have been doing but this is beyond messed up.
Same here, but now i'm seriously starting to reconsider!
I love the game, but hate their ways of doing things.Edited by Maotti on July 17, 2014 9:39PMPC EU4 -
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✭✭✭✭✭http://massively.joystiq.com/2014/07/07/wildstar-rewarding-loyal-players-with-strain-facesnuggler/
"Carbine is celebrating WildStar's first month "by giving you something unique, and... gross." If you've applied a retail key to your account as of today, you'll be receiving an account-level Facesnuggler reward item tomorrow!"
ESO gives players who pay half price for the game a free pet on steam and basically does nothing for those of us who have payed to beta test there game.
I am sure most of you know I have been a big ZoS apologist and a big fan of what they have been doing but this is beyond messed up.
To bad Carbine couldn't of rewarded their players with a good game...
I think they would of enjoyed that more then a facehuggerhttps://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXpX7JMwRXtczc5GTrIYRIw
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Necronomicon✭✭✭xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »http://massively.joystiq.com/2014/07/07/wildstar-rewarding-loyal-players-with-strain-facesnuggler/
"Carbine is celebrating WildStar's first month "by giving you something unique, and... gross." If you've applied a retail key to your account as of today, you'll be receiving an account-level Facesnuggler reward item tomorrow!"
ESO gives players who pay half price for the game a free pet on steam and basically does nothing for those of us who have payed to beta test there game.
I am sure most of you know I have been a big ZoS apologist and a big fan of what they have been doing but this is beyond messed up.
To bad Carbine couldn't of rewarded their players with a good game...
I think they would of enjoyed that more then a facehugger
To bad Zos did a even worse job.
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Xsorus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Necronomicon wrote: »xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »http://massively.joystiq.com/2014/07/07/wildstar-rewarding-loyal-players-with-strain-facesnuggler/
"Carbine is celebrating WildStar's first month "by giving you something unique, and... gross." If you've applied a retail key to your account as of today, you'll be receiving an account-level Facesnuggler reward item tomorrow!"
ESO gives players who pay half price for the game a free pet on steam and basically does nothing for those of us who have payed to beta test there game.
I am sure most of you know I have been a big ZoS apologist and a big fan of what they have been doing but this is beyond messed up.
To bad Carbine couldn't of rewarded their players with a good game...
I think they would of enjoyed that more then a facehugger
To bad Zos did a even worse job.
Clearly by the amount of butthurt over not getting a fake dog in game.
/laughhttps://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXpX7JMwRXtczc5GTrIYRIw
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Delith✭✭✭✭It's true.
The game is a lot of fun, but the company behind the game is obviously run by some people who just have no ability to connect with their community. It's very sad to watch. I'm sure there are a ton of passionate people at ZOS, who are just mismanaged and not allowed to help the game be what they want it to be.2 -
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Clearly by the amount of butthurt over not getting a fake dog in game.
/laugh[/quote]
And steam badges, and having my account offically linked to steam library, without having to buy the whole game again.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Necronomicon wrote: »
Clearly by the amount of butthurt over not getting a fake dog in game.
/laugh[/quote]
And steam badges, and having my account offically linked to steam library, without having to buy the whole game again.[/quote]
Only there are no steam badges, and you can link your account to Steam already
Taken directly from the FAQ on Steam
"Are there Steam achievements or badges for ESO?
There are currently no Steam achievements or badges for ESO."
Edited by Xsorus on July 17, 2014 9:41PMhttps://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXpX7JMwRXtczc5GTrIYRIw
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ebondeath✭✭✭✭✭Say what you want about my priorities, but this is the first time I've been truly irritated with Zenimax.╔═════════════⌈Alannah Corvaine⌋══════════════╗
Rise, rise! To freedom, rise! Arise, ye Breton sons and daughters.
Ride, ride! To freedom, ride! Truth and glory to the brave!
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Delith✭✭✭✭xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »Necronomicon wrote: »
Only there are no steam badges, and you can link your account to Steam already
Taken directly from the FAQ on Steam
"Are there Steam achievements or badges for ESO?
There are currently no Steam achievements or badges for ESO."
WILL THERE BE STEAM TRADING CARDS FOR ESO?
Updated 07/17/2014 03:18 PM Published 07/17/2014 02:24 PM
Yes, Steam Trading Cards will be available to players who purchased The Elder Scrolls Online through Steam.
https://help.elderscrollsonline.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/22357
Edited by Delith on July 17, 2014 9:45PM0 -
Nox_Aeterna✭✭✭✭✭
✭Yup *** move is ***.
The reason i never left ESO is because i thought being a paying customer at all times would prevent me from losing stuff like this dog.
If im gonna lose it anyway , might just unsub now and wait an year to resub."Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."
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Xsorus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »Necronomicon wrote: »
Only there are no steam badges, and you can link your account to Steam already
Taken directly from the FAQ on Steam
"Are there Steam achievements or badges for ESO?
There are currently no Steam achievements or badges for ESO."
WILL THERE BE STEAM TRADING CARDS FOR ESO?
Updated 07/17/2014 03:18 PM Published 07/17/2014 02:24 PM
Yes, Steam Trading Cards will be available to players who purchased The Elder Scrolls Online through Steam.
https://help.elderscrollsonline.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/22357
Oh no..so there will be Steam Trading Cards available? omg..!!!! the world is ending..what will i do without those trading cards....I mean..my Dead Island ones are so valuable to me.
*grin*
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXpX7JMwRXtczc5GTrIYRIw
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Necronomicon✭✭✭xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »Necronomicon wrote: »
Only there are no steam badges, and you can link your account to Steam already
Taken directly from the FAQ on Steam
"Are there Steam achievements or badges for ESO?
There are currently no Steam achievements or badges for ESO."
WILL THERE BE STEAM TRADING CARDS FOR ESO?
Updated 07/17/2014 03:18 PM Published 07/17/2014 02:24 PM
Yes, Steam Trading Cards will be available to players who purchased The Elder Scrolls Online through Steam.
https://help.elderscrollsonline.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/22357
Oh no..so there will be Steam Trading Cards available? omg..!!!! the world is ending..what will i do without those trading cards....I mean..my Dead Island ones are so valuable to me.
*grin*
I sell trading cards for money, then buy more cards, and make more money, got a problem that I can make more money, with money? well steam wallet funds, for more games.. but yah...
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Xsorus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Necronomicon wrote: »xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »Necronomicon wrote: »
Only there are no steam badges, and you can link your account to Steam already
Taken directly from the FAQ on Steam
"Are there Steam achievements or badges for ESO?
There are currently no Steam achievements or badges for ESO."
WILL THERE BE STEAM TRADING CARDS FOR ESO?
Updated 07/17/2014 03:18 PM Published 07/17/2014 02:24 PM
Yes, Steam Trading Cards will be available to players who purchased The Elder Scrolls Online through Steam.
https://help.elderscrollsonline.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/22357
Oh no..so there will be Steam Trading Cards available? omg..!!!! the world is ending..what will i do without those trading cards....I mean..my Dead Island ones are so valuable to me.
*grin*
I sell trading cards for money, then buy more cards, and make more money, got a problem that I can make more money, with money? well steam wallet funds, for more games.. but yah...
Yes..I'm sure the 7 cents you're making off trading cards is just amazing money
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXpX7JMwRXtczc5GTrIYRIw
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✭Nox_Aeterna wrote: »Yup *** move is ***.
The reason i never left ESO is because i thought being a paying customer at all times would prevent me from losing stuff like this dog.
If im gonna lose it anyway , might just unsub now and wait an year to resub.
My thoughts exactly. I felt like "yeah the game is sort of lacking in content and the bugs are atrocious but I believe in what they are doing and I bet like other MMOs I have played I will have something to show for my loyalty"
I haven't unsubbed yet but I thought about it for the first time. I'm not even a dog person but this is just a *** move. Can you imagine the flack they would have gotten if it was the cat.
What about pets you actually get in game besides that spider ZoS instead of promotions and plushies.Edited by Laura on July 17, 2014 10:03PM2 -
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Now if it had been a panther instead of a dog I'd have been proper grumpy.GM - Malazan
Raid Leader - Hungry Wolves
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Necronomicon✭✭✭xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »Necronomicon wrote: »xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »Necronomicon wrote: »
Only there are no steam badges, and you can link your account to Steam already
Taken directly from the FAQ on Steam
"Are there Steam achievements or badges for ESO?
There are currently no Steam achievements or badges for ESO."
WILL THERE BE STEAM TRADING CARDS FOR ESO?
Updated 07/17/2014 03:18 PM Published 07/17/2014 02:24 PM
Yes, Steam Trading Cards will be available to players who purchased The Elder Scrolls Online through Steam.
https://help.elderscrollsonline.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/22357
Oh no..so there will be Steam Trading Cards available? omg..!!!! the world is ending..what will i do without those trading cards....I mean..my Dead Island ones are so valuable to me.
*grin*
I sell trading cards for money, then buy more cards, and make more money, got a problem that I can make more money, with money? well steam wallet funds, for more games.. but yah...
Yes..I'm sure the 7 cents you're making off trading cards is just amazing money
Dork, you get a few dollars, then go play TF2 MVM, I've made 250$ selling australium guns, buy a few more tickets/ buy some steam games, and keep doing more MVM, My point is free money on the side doesnt hurt, and the cards wont be for 7 cents only, you also get a chance at a foil card that alone sells up to a 1.00$ or up
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Lalai✭✭✭✭The dog thing bites, yes.. but it's not uncommon for games to offer an incentive to late adopters. A lot of MMOs have special pets that were only available for a certain version, or if you bought the game during a certain time period. So, while the dog things sucks, I also get it from the marketing perspective.
That being said, it's also pretty common to have "Veteran rewards" for players that have stayed subscribed for a certain period of time. At least, it's common for larger titles to do something like that. Usually it's just titles and pets, but it's something. I do wish ESO would implement something like that if they're going to be providing late adopters with pets too. That way both crowds get something.Fisher extraordinaire!
Send me your worms, crawlers, guts, and insect parts.
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Xsorus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Necronomicon wrote: »xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »Necronomicon wrote: »xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »Necronomicon wrote: »
Only there are no steam badges, and you can link your account to Steam already
Taken directly from the FAQ on Steam
"Are there Steam achievements or badges for ESO?
There are currently no Steam achievements or badges for ESO."
WILL THERE BE STEAM TRADING CARDS FOR ESO?
Updated 07/17/2014 03:18 PM Published 07/17/2014 02:24 PM
Yes, Steam Trading Cards will be available to players who purchased The Elder Scrolls Online through Steam.
https://help.elderscrollsonline.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/22357
Oh no..so there will be Steam Trading Cards available? omg..!!!! the world is ending..what will i do without those trading cards....I mean..my Dead Island ones are so valuable to me.
*grin*
I sell trading cards for money, then buy more cards, and make more money, got a problem that I can make more money, with money? well steam wallet funds, for more games.. but yah...
Yes..I'm sure the 7 cents you're making off trading cards is just amazing money
Dork, you get a few dollars, then go play TF2 MVM, I've made 250$ selling australium guns, buy a few more tickets/ buy some steam games, and keep doing more MVM, My point is free money on the side doesnt hurt, and the cards wont be for 7 cents only, you also get a chance at a foil card that alone sells up to a 1.00$ or up
Only we're not talking about Tf2 gun skins
We're talking about Cards....that are bloody worthless.
There is nothing you're going to get from playing ESO on steam that's going to make you a crap ton of money in real life.
quit being dumb..
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Laura✭✭✭✭✭
✭The dog thing bites, yes.. but it's not uncommon for games to offer an incentive to late adopters. A lot of MMOs have special pets that were only available for a certain version, or if you bought the game during a certain time period. So, while the dog things sucks, I also get it from the marketing perspective.
That being said, it's also pretty common to have "Veteran rewards" for players that have stayed subscribed for a certain period of time. At least, it's common for larger titles to do something like that. Usually it's just titles and pets, but it's something. I do wish ESO would implement something like that if they're going to be providing late adopters with pets too. That way both crowds get something.
I have personally never seen an MMO do that without a way for other players to get it somehow even if it is during a short time period.
Rift tried to do this exact same thing and the backlash was so strong that they ended up offering the mount and pet bundle upgrade for a very small fee. It was still cheesy but they still had the option.
I'm not saying you are wrong, i'm just saying what I have seen.
In mmos I have noticed its generally OK to grandfather things but its usually a good idea to release items that your current player base is unable to get.
Playing EQ for years, WoW, Rift, and some others I haven't seen this happen. I have seen it attempted in rift but they went back on it.
Again that doesn't mean it hasn't happened I just haven't seen it personally and it doesn't make it right or wise.0 -
Lalai✭✭✭✭The dog thing bites, yes.. but it's not uncommon for games to offer an incentive to late adopters. A lot of MMOs have special pets that were only available for a certain version, or if you bought the game during a certain time period. So, while the dog things sucks, I also get it from the marketing perspective.
That being said, it's also pretty common to have "Veteran rewards" for players that have stayed subscribed for a certain period of time. At least, it's common for larger titles to do something like that. Usually it's just titles and pets, but it's something. I do wish ESO would implement something like that if they're going to be providing late adopters with pets too. That way both crowds get something.
I have personally never seen an MMO do that without a way for other players to get it somehow even if it is during a short time period.
Rift tried to do this exact same thing and the backlash was so strong that they ended up offering the mount and pet bundle upgrade for a very small fee. It was still cheesy but they still had the option.
I'm not saying you are wrong, i'm just saying what I have seen.
In mmos I have noticed its generally OK to grandfather things but its usually a good idea to release items that your current player base is unable to get.
Playing EQ for years, WoW, Rift, and some others I haven't seen this happen. I have seen it attempted in rift but they went back on it.
Again that doesn't mean it hasn't happened I just haven't seen it personally and it doesn't make it right or wise.
Didn't say I agreed with it, just saying I recognized why they'd do it. I wasn't aware Rift went back on it when they had, and I know FFXIV:ARR has done it as well. I was pretty sure WoW had with some of the later expansion bundles, but I haven't really played it for years. It never sits well with me when it it happens, but it's also not really that important as long as it's just the one item (to me anyway).
Rift, and FFXIV though, also offer the whole veteran rewards bit. Which sort of cushions it. The way ESO is currently doing things they are just rewarding those who are late adopters, but not rewarding folks who have been long time customers. That should probably change.Fisher extraordinaire!
Send me your worms, crawlers, guts, and insect parts.
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Laura✭✭✭✭✭
✭The dog thing bites, yes.. but it's not uncommon for games to offer an incentive to late adopters. A lot of MMOs have special pets that were only available for a certain version, or if you bought the game during a certain time period. So, while the dog things sucks, I also get it from the marketing perspective.
That being said, it's also pretty common to have "Veteran rewards" for players that have stayed subscribed for a certain period of time. At least, it's common for larger titles to do something like that. Usually it's just titles and pets, but it's something. I do wish ESO would implement something like that if they're going to be providing late adopters with pets too. That way both crowds get something.
I have personally never seen an MMO do that without a way for other players to get it somehow even if it is during a short time period.
Rift tried to do this exact same thing and the backlash was so strong that they ended up offering the mount and pet bundle upgrade for a very small fee. It was still cheesy but they still had the option.
I'm not saying you are wrong, i'm just saying what I have seen.
In mmos I have noticed its generally OK to grandfather things but its usually a good idea to release items that your current player base is unable to get.
Playing EQ for years, WoW, Rift, and some others I haven't seen this happen. I have seen it attempted in rift but they went back on it.
Again that doesn't mean it hasn't happened I just haven't seen it personally and it doesn't make it right or wise.
Didn't say I agreed with it, just saying I recognized why they'd do it. I wasn't aware Rift went back on it when they had, and I know FFXIV:ARR has done it as well. I was pretty sure WoW had with some of the later expansion bundles, but I haven't really played it for years. It never sits well with me when it it happens, but it's also not really that important as long as it's just the one item (to me anyway).
Rift, and FFXIV though, also offer the whole veteran rewards bit. Which sort of cushions it. The way ESO is currently doing things they are just rewarding those who are late adopters, but not rewarding folks who have been long time customers. That should probably change.
I didn't know FFXIV did late adopter stuff. Most likely because they have veteran rewards who knows.
Rift tried to give out a spider mount to late adopters and the backlash was so loud they offered the pet for 10 dollars instead.
Cheesy but its better than saying you can never get it.0 -
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✭✭✭The dog thing bites, yes.. but it's not uncommon for games to offer an incentive to late adopters. A lot of MMOs have special pets that were only available for a certain version, or if you bought the game during a certain time period. So, while the dog things sucks, I also get it from the marketing perspective.
That being said, it's also pretty common to have "Veteran rewards" for players that have stayed subscribed for a certain period of time. At least, it's common for larger titles to do something like that. Usually it's just titles and pets, but it's something. I do wish ESO would implement something like that if they're going to be providing late adopters with pets too. That way both crowds get something.
I have personally never seen an MMO do that without a way for other players to get it somehow even if it is during a short time period.
Rift tried to do this exact same thing and the backlash was so strong that they ended up offering the mount and pet bundle upgrade for a very small fee. It was still cheesy but they still had the option.
I'm not saying you are wrong, i'm just saying what I have seen.
In mmos I have noticed its generally OK to grandfather things but its usually a good idea to release items that your current player base is unable to get.
Playing EQ for years, WoW, Rift, and some others I haven't seen this happen. I have seen it attempted in rift but they went back on it.
Again that doesn't mean it hasn't happened I just haven't seen it personally and it doesn't make it right or wise.
Didn't say I agreed with it, just saying I recognized why they'd do it. I wasn't aware Rift went back on it when they had, and I know FFXIV:ARR has done it as well. I was pretty sure WoW had with some of the later expansion bundles, but I haven't really played it for years. It never sits well with me when it it happens, but it's also not really that important as long as it's just the one item (to me anyway).
Rift, and FFXIV though, also offer the whole veteran rewards bit. Which sort of cushions it. The way ESO is currently doing things they are just rewarding those who are late adopters, but not rewarding folks who have been long time customers. That should probably change.
I didn't know FFXIV did late adopter stuff. Most likely because they have veteran rewards who knows.
Rift tried to give out a spider mount to late adopters and the backlash was so loud they offered the pet for 10 dollars instead.
Cheesy but its better than saying you can never get it.
Square did give away stuff for people who bought things like CD's and books. They gave Legacy players $5 off a month. Told legacy players that one of the mounts was only going to be available to them then 2 months later brought out a slightly different version of the same mount for people who had just started. They also had mounts and pets for people who bought the special edition.0 -
AyreSoul ShrivenI am very upset about this wolfhound pet not being available to players who purchased the imperial edition prelaunch. It is unfair. What a slap in the face to your loyal customers, ESO. Not happy.Edited by Ayre on July 17, 2014 11:16PM~~~~~ Ayre ~~~~~
For those who do not believe, no explanation is possible.
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Laura✭✭✭✭✭
✭ers101284b14_ESO wrote: »The dog thing bites, yes.. but it's not uncommon for games to offer an incentive to late adopters. A lot of MMOs have special pets that were only available for a certain version, or if you bought the game during a certain time period. So, while the dog things sucks, I also get it from the marketing perspective.
That being said, it's also pretty common to have "Veteran rewards" for players that have stayed subscribed for a certain period of time. At least, it's common for larger titles to do something like that. Usually it's just titles and pets, but it's something. I do wish ESO would implement something like that if they're going to be providing late adopters with pets too. That way both crowds get something.
I have personally never seen an MMO do that without a way for other players to get it somehow even if it is during a short time period.
Rift tried to do this exact same thing and the backlash was so strong that they ended up offering the mount and pet bundle upgrade for a very small fee. It was still cheesy but they still had the option.
I'm not saying you are wrong, i'm just saying what I have seen.
In mmos I have noticed its generally OK to grandfather things but its usually a good idea to release items that your current player base is unable to get.
Playing EQ for years, WoW, Rift, and some others I haven't seen this happen. I have seen it attempted in rift but they went back on it.
Again that doesn't mean it hasn't happened I just haven't seen it personally and it doesn't make it right or wise.
Didn't say I agreed with it, just saying I recognized why they'd do it. I wasn't aware Rift went back on it when they had, and I know FFXIV:ARR has done it as well. I was pretty sure WoW had with some of the later expansion bundles, but I haven't really played it for years. It never sits well with me when it it happens, but it's also not really that important as long as it's just the one item (to me anyway).
Rift, and FFXIV though, also offer the whole veteran rewards bit. Which sort of cushions it. The way ESO is currently doing things they are just rewarding those who are late adopters, but not rewarding folks who have been long time customers. That should probably change.
I didn't know FFXIV did late adopter stuff. Most likely because they have veteran rewards who knows.
Rift tried to give out a spider mount to late adopters and the backlash was so loud they offered the pet for 10 dollars instead.
Cheesy but its better than saying you can never get it.
Square did give away stuff for people who bought things like CD's and books. They gave Legacy players $5 off a month. Told legacy players that one of the mounts was only going to be available to them then 2 months later brought out a slightly different version of the same mount for people who had just started. They also had mounts and pets for people who bought the special edition.
I knew they did that but I didn't know they gave anything out for people who picked up the game later (like myself)
I wasn't upset that people who played the game when it was bad had things I could never get. I think they earned them. Its just backwards to me in every single way.
The only dog in the game is literally unobtainable.0