If You Wear Willow's Path or Twilight's Embrace, Brace Yourself...

Snit

If you wear either of those armor sets, and you've invested in upgrades to make it Epic or Legendary, you may want to have a peek in the PTS forum (which most people ignore). You picked those sets because you're a DPS or healer. Surprise! Your gear is about to become a tanking set.

Just a heads-up.

dsalter

geif link to thread about set changes :P

Mr.Turtlesworth

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Snit

dsalter wrote: »

geif link to thread about set changes :P

There are about a dozen threads on the issue in that forum. Here's a good place to start to see the changes:

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/118944/1-3-0-armor-and-weapon-sets/p1

I suspect cross-posting is frowned upon, but I suspect most players don't even know that forum exists.

crislevin

Share a link please, couldn't find relevant topic in pts forum.

KariTR

It's already been posted here...with pictures. Didn't see a lot of fuss over it either.

Snit

KariTR wrote: »

It's already been posted here...with pictures. Didn't see a lot of fuss over it either.

Well, most of the changes are good. There are just a few sets where they did really odd things, like map Spell Crit to Health Recovery or Max Health (tanking stats).

Samadhi

I actually use both Willow's Path (3 piece, Legendary) and Twilight's Embrace (5 piece, Epic).
I don't mind the incoming changes.
I'm going to swap over to a 5 piece Night's Silence set; I'm still a little indecisive about what 3 piece set to add in, but probably Torug's Pact for added Health and non-crit Spell Damage.

Pic here for people asking:

nerevarine1138

In what world is a universal increase to all attribute regeneration only good for tanks? Same with healing taken.

Those set bonuses haven't changed much at all. If anything, they've become more powerful.

crislevin

I use 5 seducer and 3 willow path, I will just change willow path to night mother.

It seems the set effect is increased, which is nice.

I don't up my armor pass blue. ZoS is experimenting on the game with all these changes, I'm not spending gold to make legendary stuff just so they can scratch it next week.

nerevarine1138

crislevin wrote: »

I use 5 seducer and 3 willow path, I will just change willow path to night mother.

It seems the set effect is increased, which is nice.

I don't up my armor pass blue. ZoS is experimenting on the game with all these changes, I'm not spending gold to make legendary stuff just so they can scratch it next week.

Hi, welcome to MMO gaming.

Gear is always going to become obsolete after a while. It's the nature of the beast.

KariTR

The same world where FoTMs exist I guess (Just in case it isn't clear, I agree with you).

I'm probably going for 3 Lamae, 2 Torug's and 3 Night Mother. Best looking robe of the three of course.

Soloeus

Disgusting. Regeneration is capped really low and even without this remap I am always overcharged and my Mana/Health is usually close to cap with food. All this does is overcharge me even more than I am which forces me to wear mish-moshes of 4-3's or 5-2's.

I get why they did it, but they needed much less focus on regeneration. Putting good abilities behind bad ones isn't very nice.

I also don't like bait and switch techniques. This is why I don't ever make quality better than blue because this is the story of every MMO. Maybe in about 6 months they will have several sets that are "locked in" and then I will care enough to make one purple.

demonlkojipub19_ESO

Soloeus wrote: »

Disgusting. Regeneration is capped really low and even without this remap I am always overcharged and my Mana/Health is usually close to cap with food. All this does is overcharge me even more than I am which forces me to wear mish-moshes of 4-3's or 5-2's.

I get why they did it, but they needed much less focus on regeneration. Putting good abilities behind bad ones isn't very nice.

I also don't like bait and switch techniques. This is why I don't ever make quality better than blue because this is the story of every MMO. Maybe in about 6 months they will have several sets that are "locked in" and then I will care enough to make one purple.

They are raising the soft caps too.

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/119043/patch-1-3-soft-caps-stats/p1

Lynx7386

Regen and other softcaps are being raised with the patch too, so you may not be overcharged anymore.

dsalter

only thing this will change for my DW sorc build is the night mother set to 2 pieces and add in a new 2 piece set basicly BUFFING my output

PBpsy

You know something . Take your weapon crit and shove it.

Iago

I find those changes ridiculous, if they are legit I can boost my Health by 511HP plus more if I go for a divines trait and the mundus stone that increases health, with a health enchantment means I should be able to boost my health by way over 1,000 hp with very little effort...........

killedbyping

Why would any1 upgrade any of those sets to legendary ? All you got from it is just 1-2% of crit if you have Thief mundus and devines traits or 10 more magicka\health if you have infused. Dont think any1 care about armor rating when they wear light armor. Crit% and other bonuses do not get better when upgraded at current state.
Sooo... i pitty the fool who upraded it to legendary ...

Upgrading to Epic are realy cheap, so dont see any problems there. You have all the mats you need to craft both of those with epic quality in a week with just hirelings -.-

MoeCoastie

So you spent all this time learning traits, gathering mats, and getting your armor to legendary...you beat the game! NOT! welcome to the world of MMOs. Change and MMOs go hand and hand. It's those that play a game for a couple months (before any real evolution of the game occurs) and move on to the next that give the MMO genre a bad rap.

smeeprocketnub19_ESO

killedbyping wrote: »

Why would any1 upgrade any of those sets to legendary ? All you got from it is just 1-2% of crit if you have Thief mundus and devines traits or 10 more magicka\health if you have infused. Dont think any1 care about armor rating when they wear light armor. Crit% and other bonuses do not get better when upgraded at current state.
Sooo... i pitty the fool who upraded it to legendary ...

Upgrading to Epic are realy cheap, so dont see any problems there. You have all the mats you need to craft both of those with epic quality in a week with just hirelings -.-

I use divines/thief stone, so yea...

Nebthet78

Ugh... they totally nerfed Vampire's Kiss..... Twilight's Embrace will remain to be fine with me, but I always used 3 VK's armour to give a 50% heal rate bonus when I kill an enemy for 8 seconds.... this combo is the thing that has been keeping me alive in Vet Ranks since before they changed that.. so disappointed.

Soloeus

This might not be so bad then if I can more directly raise my Magica/Weapon Damage and get some spell crit without being fully overcharged. I will have to wait and see, I have mixed feelings about the next update. I hope to be V12 by then and hopefully have light armor finished so I can change over to anything I need to in order to get by.

Final thoughts:

Heavy Armor Cap doesn't seem like it will let Heavy Armor be any better. In order for Heavy to be better the Cap would need to raise by about 400 or so.

killedbyping

smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »

killedbyping wrote: »

Why would any1 upgrade any of those sets to legendary ? All you got from it is just 1-2% of crit if you have Thief mundus and devines traits or 10 more magicka\health if you have infused. Dont think any1 care about armor rating when they wear light armor. Crit% and other bonuses do not get better when upgraded at current state.
Sooo... i pitty the fool who upraded it to legendary ...

Upgrading to Epic are realy cheap, so dont see any problems there. You have all the mats you need to craft both of those with epic quality in a week with just hirelings -.-

I use divines/thief stone, so yea...

I meant that even those bonuses are so minor, that nobody would waste yellow mats for that if only they have so much of them that they dont know what to do with them...

This is yet another talk that there is not that much of difference betwin item quality, which dont make you feel that you actualy achieved somethin by getting legendary gear.

For example, upgrading hunding rage set would increase ALL of this set bonuses, not just sets.

Samadhi

killedbyping wrote: »

smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »

killedbyping wrote: »

Why would any1 upgrade any of those sets to legendary ? All you got from it is just 1-2% of crit if you have Thief mundus and devines traits or 10 more magicka\health if you have infused. Dont think any1 care about armor rating when they wear light armor. Crit% and other bonuses do not get better when upgraded at current state.
Sooo... i pitty the fool who upraded it to legendary ...

Upgrading to Epic are realy cheap, so dont see any problems there. You have all the mats you need to craft both of those with epic quality in a week with just hirelings -.-

I use divines/thief stone, so yea...

I meant that even those bonuses are so minor, that nobody woudl watse yellow mats for that if only they have so much of them that they dont know what to do with them...
...

Better to use yellow mats than to leave them sitting in bank collecting dust.
I'll have enough before the update to do a new set though, so I'm not complaining.

People seem to favour yellow gears with Impenetrable trait for PvP.

smeeprocketnub19_ESO

killedbyping wrote: »

smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »

killedbyping wrote: »

Why would any1 upgrade any of those sets to legendary ? All you got from it is just 1-2% of crit if you have Thief mundus and devines traits or 10 more magicka\health if you have infused. Dont think any1 care about armor rating when they wear light armor. Crit% and other bonuses do not get better when upgraded at current state.
Sooo... i pitty the fool who upraded it to legendary ...

Upgrading to Epic are realy cheap, so dont see any problems there. You have all the mats you need to craft both of those with epic quality in a week with just hirelings -.-

I use divines/thief stone, so yea...

I meant that even those bonuses are so minor, that nobody would waste yellow mats for that if only they have so much of them that they dont know what to do with them...

This is yet another talk that there is not that much of difference betwin item quality, which dont make you feel that you actualy achieved somethin by getting legendary gear.

For example, upgrading hunding rage set would increase ALL of this set bonuses, not just sets.

1% is not minor.

crislevin

so 1.3.1 is bringing back willow path's crit, it is now 4% for 3 piece. Not bad.

Snit

Yep. It was great to see ZOS respond to player feedback on this issue.

LtCrunch

I use twilight's embrace for the healing taken boost, so do lots of tanks. The changes are positive from a tank's perspective.

Tavore1138

Night's Silence plus Nightshade looks like fun for the stealthers.

poodlemasterb16_ESO

Nebthet78 wrote: »

Ugh... they totally nerfed Vampire's Kiss..... Twilight's Embrace will remain to be fine with me, but I always used 3 VK's armour to give a 50% heal rate bonus when I kill an enemy for 8 seconds.... this combo is the thing that has been keeping me alive in Vet Ranks since before they changed that.. so disappointed.

I found it better to hang health regen on some bling and use Willow's Path and Song of Lamae on both my, and my son's vampires.