Your opinion, is ESO worth dumping a lot of time into?

thebigfist

Patches break everything. Including armor sets; many didnt work to begin with.
Design changes make or break char build.
Many spells never worked, ever as intended.

is paying $15 a month and really putting time into this MMORPG worth it?
I love raiding challenges and pvp. I would love to make it to endgame. But I am sooo worried about all the bugs becoming overwhelming. As well, not being satisfied with endgame when I make it there.

What do you dalies and mentlegen think?

Thanks in advance for input.

pinstripesc

dalies and mentlegen lol.

I think so. Things getting all fzdzs'd up by patches, including your build and forcing you to do things differently is nothing new as far as MMOs go. I find it's really not all that painful if you just take it as it comes and learn to adapt.

Sharee

If you dump a lot of time into a game, then something not working for a while really has no consequence.

If i expect to be playing this for several years, what do a few days of waiting for a fix mean? Nothing.

So the answer to your question, at least for me, is yes.

ShADoW0s

I would say wait. I think the game has alot of potential, but right now there is no direction. Wait for a bit and see which direction they take in development, either focused around PvP, PvE, storyline or content, then decide. Right now its in shambles.

thebigfist

pinstripesc wrote: »

dalies and mentlegen lol.

I think so. Things getting all fzdzs'd up by patches, including your build and forcing you to do things differently is nothing new as far as MMOs go. I find it's really not all that painful if you just take it as it comes and learn to adapt.

agreed. I am worried about the bugs too. My highest char is a nightblade, hahah yaaaa. So when i read the awful written description about a skill and I find out it doesnt work as I thought or it doesnt work at all... it is hard to deal with.
I always like to plan out what role or fighting style I want to play and build. I feel like half the battle of the game is figuring out what actually works as intended.

thebigfist

it seems like everytime I morph a skill, it is this giant gamble and i am always saying "plz work how i think you work." And that is AFTER researching the skill as much as I can online.

pinstripesc

I try to keep an eye on the forums to see what's bugged and what isn't, avoid things that are till they're confirmed fixed and do what I can with what I've got. My main is a nightblade (ahahaavoidbugs?whyyouplaybuggedclasszzadsah!?) and I really haven't had any serious difficulty with it coming to the end of V5. I actually swapped to a NB after I found DKV1 boring and have enjoyed the differences.

Remember that the people screaming on the forums are generally the ones that aren't happy. If you try at it I'm confident you can always find a way to make things work generally the way you want them to.

nudel

Patches break things in every game. This is not news.
Ultimately, you have to decide if it's worth it to you. No one can or should make that decision for you.

As for myself, I do enjoy the bulk of my time in this game even with all the bugs. Some fixes may not come as fast as you or I may like, but I find the game enjoyable enough that I can be patient with the bugs.

Ragnar_Lodbrok

No.

Shaun98ca2

ShADoW0s wrote: »

I would say wait. I think the game has alot of potential, but right now there is no direction. Wait for a bit and see which direction they take in development, either focused around PvP, PvE, storyline or content, then decide. Right now its in shambles.

This a great mentality to bury a game that has "potential".

Its nothing short of impossible to release an MMO perfectly balanced. Most MMOs that have been out for years still have trouble balancing.

Patches more often than not screw something new up. As games become more complex such as these so does attempting to update them.

No MMO will get out the door perfect. NOT playing it takes away revenue. Enough revenue loss kills the game.

This is just plain terrible advice. This game is playable. I know cause I have played it.

Now you have to ask yourself if you are having fun. If you are STAY. If not LEAVE.

You think this game has straight out design flaws either deal or leave EASY.

If bugs and balance issues preventing you from having fun, MAYBE your in the wrong genre. MMOs are KNOWN for bugs and balance issues.

Its one thing to give a heads up "HEY this is bugged plz look at it"

But you look at these forums its WAY beyond that. Its complaint after complaint after complaint for the SAME THING over and over and over again. OK thank we heard that its broke the 1st 1,000 times if its not fix yet deal or leave.

Come to the point you cant even have a decent discussion in these forums any more about ANYTHING without some *** racing in to blurt out pure hatred when it doenst even have to do with the topic on hand.

otis67

It's worth it for me. I'm loving this game so far. Most of the bugs and things people are complaining about in these forums, i'm not finding to be true when playing the game.

Ragnar_Lodbrok

Shaun98ca2 wrote: »

ShADoW0s wrote: »

I would say wait. I think the game has alot of potential, but right now there is no direction. Wait for a bit and see which direction they take in development, either focused around PvP, PvE, storyline or content, then decide. Right now its in shambles.

This a great mentality to bury a game that has "potential".

Its nothing short of impossible to release an MMO perfectly balanced. Most MMOs that have been out for years still have trouble balancing.

Patches more often than not screw something new up. As games become more complex such as these so does attempting to update them.

No MMO will get out the door perfect. NOT playing it takes away revenue. Enough revenue loss kills the game.

This is just plain terrible advice. This game is playable. I know cause I have played it.

Now you have to ask yourself if you are having fun. If you are STAY. If not LEAVE.

You think this game has straight out design flaws either deal or leave EASY.

If bugs and balance issues preventing you from having fun, MAYBE your in the wrong genre. MMOs are KNOWN for bugs and balance issues.

Its one thing to give a heads up "HEY this is bugged plz look at it"

But you look at these forums its WAY beyond that. Its complaint after complaint after complaint for the SAME THING over and over and over again. OK thank we heard that its broke the 1st 1,000 times if its not fix yet deal or leave.

Come to the point you cant even have a decent discussion in these forums any more about ANYTHING without some *** racing in to blurt out pure hatred when it doenst even have to do with the topic on hand.

So you suggest lying to people so this game doesn't hit free to play like we all know its headed to?

Shaun98ca2

otis67 wrote: »

It's worth it for me. I'm loving this game so far. Most of the bugs and things people are complaining about in these forums, i'm not finding to be true when playing the game.

Well most the people are simply looking for something to be wrong. Those that WANT to be happy CAN.

Can you find something wrong with the game SURE. Can find something wrong with ANY game if you simply look for it. The more you focus on it the less you can actually see of anything else.

If you ask

Ragnar_Lodbrok wrote: »

No.

You will probably hear... NONE. Doesn't even know why s/he is here any more.

If you can tell me a better game I can tell you its flaws.

Ragnar_Lodbrok

Shaun98ca2 wrote: »

otis67 wrote: »

It's worth it for me. I'm loving this game so far. Most of the bugs and things people are complaining about in these forums, i'm not finding to be true when playing the game.

Well most the people are simply looking for something to be wrong. Those that WANT to be happy CAN.

Can you find something wrong with the game SURE. Can find something wrong with ANY game if you simply look for it. The more you focus on it the less you can actually see of anything else.

If you ask

Ragnar_Lodbrok wrote: »

No.

You will probably hear... NONE. Doesn't even know why s/he is here any more.

If you can tell me a better game I can tell you its flaws.

Some people are happy with a polished turd I guess

thebigfist

that is a good point. i know games have problems. but i have higher expectations for monthly fee games.

Shaun98ca2

Ragnar_Lodbrok wrote: »

Shaun98ca2 wrote: »

otis67 wrote: »

It's worth it for me. I'm loving this game so far. Most of the bugs and things people are complaining about in these forums, i'm not finding to be true when playing the game.

Well most the people are simply looking for something to be wrong. Those that WANT to be happy CAN.

Can you find something wrong with the game SURE. Can find something wrong with ANY game if you simply look for it. The more you focus on it the less you can actually see of anything else.

If you ask

Ragnar_Lodbrok wrote: »

No.

You will probably hear... NONE. Doesn't even know why s/he is here any more.

If you can tell me a better game I can tell you its flaws.

Some people are happy with a polished turd I guess

What makes it a "turd"?

Shaun98ca2

thebigfist wrote: »

that is a good point. i know games have problems. but i have higher expectations for monthly fee games.

The ONLY expectation you should look for is. PLAY THE GAME....ARE YOU HAVING FUN.

If YES continue. NO leave. SIMPLE.

ShADoW0s

@Shaun98ca2 What are you talking about lol?

I never said that the game was bad. All games have bugs on release, this is given and ESO was no different, but in ESO's case it had ALOT more. Balance is always going to be a problem and it will get fixed and altered though out the game, but stuff like set bonuses, mundus stone buffs that are still not working in a PvP game? You really think thats standard in an MMO?

Story line bugs and character bugs are not that much of a problem unless it blocks progress, and I only came across one after finishing 2 fractions, so it did not bother me that much.

Im still having fun, Im still playing the game, altho maybe not for long. The OP just asked if its worth putting alot of time into the game, and for that I said wait. As he should, because currently there is no end game, things like PvP still needs fixes, so there is no real point in putting alot of time into ESO, what about that advice is wrong? Read his post.

Finally the forums are full of people complaining, well because thats how they get noticed. People who have no problem will not be here, if you want a good discussion forums are not the place.

I find it funny when you say you want a good discussion yet you are the one complaining.

Shaun98ca2

ShADoW0s wrote: »

@Shaun98ca2 What are you talking about lol?

I never said that the game was bad. All games have bugs on release, this is given and ESO was no different, but in ESO's case it had ALOT more. Balance is always going to be a problem and it will get fixed and altered though out the game, but stuff like set bonuses, mundus stone buffs that are still not working in a PvP game? You really think thats standard in an MMO?

Story line bugs and character bugs are not that much of a problem unless it blocks progress, and I only came across one after finishing 2 fractions, so it did not bother me that much.

Im still having fun, Im still playing the game, altho maybe not for long. The OP just asked if its worth putting alot of time into the game, and for that I said wait. As he should, because currently there is no end game, things like PvP still needs fixes, so there is no real point in putting alot of time into ESO, what about that advice is wrong? Read his post.

Finally the forums are full of people complaining, well because thats how they get noticed. People who have no problem will not be here, if you want a good discussion forums are not the place.

I find it funny when you say you want a good discussion yet you are the one complaining.

HMM not sure I have actually directed any comments at you. Could be wrong though.

Cepeza

For me it is worth the time and the money, because it's fun. When it stops being fun, I'll quit play ESO. Everybody has to decide by themselves if it is worth to play that game or not. I do not even care about endgame yet, because there is a ton of other stuff to see and to do before I even consider any endgame. Endgame obviously implies the content at the end of a game, i.e. just before you have seen and done everything else, so just before you're gonna quit. I do not see any reason for me to quit ESO all too soon yet. The word "dumping" in topic's title shows clearly how biased the OP wanted this thread to be. Not working spells and bugs. Ya ya. QQ harder, little one. Not like weekly patches do not tell us that they are continuously working hard to improve the game. Tell me one definite, game breaking bug they introduced by patching something. I'd bet, you can't!

Shaun98ca2

ShADoW0s wrote: »

@Shaun98ca2 What are you talking about lol?

I never said that the game was bad. All games have bugs on release, this is given and ESO was no different, but in ESO's case it had ALOT more. Balance is always going to be a problem and it will get fixed and altered though out the game, but stuff like set bonuses, mundus stone buffs that are still not working in a PvP game? You really think thats standard in an MMO?

Story line bugs and character bugs are not that much of a problem unless it blocks progress, and I only came across one after finishing 2 fractions, so it did not bother me that much.

Im still having fun, Im still playing the game, altho maybe not for long. The OP just asked if its worth putting alot of time into the game, and for that I said wait. As he should, because currently there is no end game, things like PvP still needs fixes, so there is no real point in putting alot of time into ESO, what about that advice is wrong? Read his post.

Finally the forums are full of people complaining, well because thats how they get noticed. People who have no problem will not be here, if you want a good discussion forums are not the place.

I find it funny when you say you want a good discussion yet you are the one complaining.

Sorry made it my new personal goal to complain to complainers cause its fun lol.

They complain I thought so should I.

ShADoW0s

Shaun98ca2 wrote: »

ShADoW0s wrote: »

@Shaun98ca2 What are you talking about lol?

I never said that the game was bad. All games have bugs on release, this is given and ESO was no different, but in ESO's case it had ALOT more. Balance is always going to be a problem and it will get fixed and altered though out the game, but stuff like set bonuses, mundus stone buffs that are still not working in a PvP game? You really think thats standard in an MMO?

Story line bugs and character bugs are not that much of a problem unless it blocks progress, and I only came across one after finishing 2 fractions, so it did not bother me that much.

Im still having fun, Im still playing the game, altho maybe not for long. The OP just asked if its worth putting alot of time into the game, and for that I said wait. As he should, because currently there is no end game, things like PvP still needs fixes, so there is no real point in putting alot of time into ESO, what about that advice is wrong? Read his post.

Finally the forums are full of people complaining, well because thats how they get noticed. People who have no problem will not be here, if you want a good discussion forums are not the place.

I find it funny when you say you want a good discussion yet you are the one complaining.

HMM not sure I have actually directed any comments at you. Could be wrong though.

Shaun98ca2 wrote: »

ShADoW0s wrote: »

@Shaun98ca2 What are you talking about lol?

I never said that the game was bad. All games have bugs on release, this is given and ESO was no different, but in ESO's case it had ALOT more. Balance is always going to be a problem and it will get fixed and altered though out the game, but stuff like set bonuses, mundus stone buffs that are still not working in a PvP game? You really think thats standard in an MMO?

Story line bugs and character bugs are not that much of a problem unless it blocks progress, and I only came across one after finishing 2 fractions, so it did not bother me that much.

Im still having fun, Im still playing the game, altho maybe not for long. The OP just asked if its worth putting alot of time into the game, and for that I said wait. As he should, because currently there is no end game, things like PvP still needs fixes, so there is no real point in putting alot of time into ESO, what about that advice is wrong? Read his post.

Finally the forums are full of people complaining, well because thats how they get noticed. People who have no problem will not be here, if you want a good discussion forums are not the place.

I find it funny when you say you want a good discussion yet you are the one complaining.

HMM not sure I have actually directed any comments at you. Could be wrong though.

You quoted me

thebigfist

Shaun98ca2 wrote: »

thebigfist wrote: »

that is a good point. i know games have problems. but i have higher expectations for monthly fee games.

The ONLY expectation you should look for is. PLAY THE GAME....ARE YOU HAVING FUN.

If YES continue. NO leave. SIMPLE.

What did i just read? Can we have a civilized decent discussion. I understand the point you are trying to make, but it doesnt help nor ARE YOUR CAPS appreciated.

Yes I expect more of a game that I pay $15 a month for. One thing that attracts me about a game is a monthly fee. I expect it will be better maintained, have fewer issues, higher fan base... and come on. Do I have to explain this? I played WOW for a long time. I like monthly fee and I have higher than normal expectations of games that cost a monthly fee.

Shaun98ca2

thebigfist wrote: »

Shaun98ca2 wrote: »

thebigfist wrote: »

that is a good point. i know games have problems. but i have higher expectations for monthly fee games.

The ONLY expectation you should look for is. PLAY THE GAME....ARE YOU HAVING FUN.

If YES continue. NO leave. SIMPLE.

What did i just read? Can we have a civilized decent discussion. I understand the point you are trying to make, but it doesnt help nor ARE YOUR CAPS appreciated.

Yes I expect more of a game that I pay $15 a month for. One thing that attracts me about a game is a monthly fee. I expect it will be better maintained, have fewer issues, higher fan base... and come on. Do I have to explain this? I played WOW for a long time. I like monthly fee and I have higher than normal expectations of games that cost a monthly fee.

BUT CAPS ARE fun. I would actually expect more from a F2P game they are actually making MORE than subscription based models.

Yes this game has issue. We all know it. The devs have been VERY hard at work. The patches show that. They may not communicate much in these forms but their actions (patches) speak louder than words.

I went to this games competitor. They "communicate" more but don't acutally SAY anything with their communication. Just open ended backwards talk that means nothing except "I hear you, I understand, THANKS".

I find this game very well maintained constant patches along with constant updates.

SexyVette07

Youre either going to love or hate it. Personally, im highly considering unsubbing for a few months to see which direction the game goes. Im so sick of playing Dragon Knights Online that it pisses me off every single time im in Cyrodiil. It takes an entire group to take one down, and hes still going to kill at least one person before he dies.

I refuse to reroll.


Moral of the story, roll a DK if you plan on staying.

Shaun98ca2

SexyVette07 wrote: »

Youre either going to love or hate it. Personally, im highly considering unsubbing for a few months to see which direction the game goes. Im so sick of playing Dragon Knights Online that it pisses me off every single time im in Cyrodiil. It takes an entire group to take one down, and hes still going to kill at least one person before he dies.

I refuse to reroll.


Moral of the story, roll a DK if you plan on staying.

I say find a build to specifically $crew a DK. Or a combination of builds.

thebigfist

Cepeza wrote: »

For me it is worth the time and the money, because it's fun. When it stops being fun, I'll quit play ESO. Everybody has to decide by themselves if it is worth to play that game or not. I do not even care about endgame yet, because there is a ton of other stuff to see and to do before I even consider any endgame. Endgame obviously implies the content at the end of a game, i.e. just before you have seen and done everything else, so just before you're gonna quit. I do not see any reason for me to quit ESO all too soon yet. The word "dumping" in topic's title shows clearly how biased the OP wanted this thread to be. Not working spells and bugs. Ya ya. QQ harder, little one. Not like weekly patches do not tell us that they are continuously working hard to improve the game. Tell me one definite, game breaking bug they introduced by patching something. I'd bet, you can't!

I think you read it in a different tone. I didnt mean to come off like that. I agree I should decide if the game is fun, but I am all about endgame gearing and pvp. So it will be a while until I can decide.
Well if the enemy npc health bars bug hasnt been fixed yet, That's one. I have yet to test my luck with a dungeon yet.
As a NB, my cloak has never worked. Not sure when that was "patched." Not sure if that qualifies as game breaking. Definitely build breaking.

(could you research the origin of "QQ". You might be using it incorrectly. No offense, just pet peeve. I hate seeing it.)

Worstluck

No not right now. Check back around Christmas time

thebigfist

anyway, thanks for advice and discussion guys. I think I am going to try to stick it out and get the endgame experience.

Shaun98ca2

thebigfist wrote: »

Cepeza wrote: »

For me it is worth the time and the money, because it's fun. When it stops being fun, I'll quit play ESO. Everybody has to decide by themselves if it is worth to play that game or not. I do not even care about endgame yet, because there is a ton of other stuff to see and to do before I even consider any endgame. Endgame obviously implies the content at the end of a game, i.e. just before you have seen and done everything else, so just before you're gonna quit. I do not see any reason for me to quit ESO all too soon yet. The word "dumping" in topic's title shows clearly how biased the OP wanted this thread to be. Not working spells and bugs. Ya ya. QQ harder, little one. Not like weekly patches do not tell us that they are continuously working hard to improve the game. Tell me one definite, game breaking bug they introduced by patching something. I'd bet, you can't!

I think you read it in a different tone. I didnt mean to come off like that. I agree I should decide if the game is fun, but I am all about endgame gearing and pvp. So it will be a while until I can decide.
Well if the enemy npc health bars bug hasnt been fixed yet, That's one. I have yet to test my luck with a dungeon yet.
As a NB, my cloak has never worked. Not sure when that was "patched." Not sure if that qualifies as game breaking. Definitely build breaking.

(could you research the origin of "QQ". You might be using it incorrectly. No offense, just pet peeve. I hate seeing it.)

Contrary to popular belief, QQ is not a set of crying eyes. It actually originated with the advent of Warcraft II. On battlenet, you could press ALT+Q+Q to immediately exit the match and program. Thus the term "QQ" was to tell people to just quit because they are unskilled. The term later developed and lost it's origin and is usually mistaken as crying eyes.

In contemporary gamer culture, QQ has become the mainstream emoticon for crying eyes, though it is still often used in it's traditional sense.

"Shut up or QQ!"
"Why don't you QQ, noob?"

urbandictionary.com

thebigfist

This man is correct ^

I dont like the crying eyes use. There are so many other funny emoticons you can use to insult other players with. Hahaha